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Could Need & Want Lead Kevin Colbert & The Steelers To Draft Kevin Zeitler In Round One?


I received an email today from a reader who asked why I ignored Wisconsin guard Kevin Zeitler as a potential first round pick for the Pittsburgh Steelers on Thursday night. The question caught me just at the right time as I had just finished re-watching the Kevin Colbert and Mike Tomlin pre draft conference from Monday as well as the sit down with Colbert today on Steelers Live at 4.

You should be warned that I am feeling very euphoric today and this post will likely not translate my full thoughts correctly, but many of you are pretty used to that by now.

Let me start off by saying that I have not ignored Zeitler, as much as I am having problems slotting him. Is he the 2nd, 3rd or 4th guard in this class and is he a late 1st or early 2nd round grade? In my opinion it is easier to separate the top defensive players at individual positions than it is interior linemen and I think the top four or so after David DeCastro are tightly grouped together. Some of them have more versatility associated with them like Cordy Glenn and Brandon Brooks, while others will strictly be guards at the next level.

Several of my favorite talking head talent evaluators are Michael Lombardi, Charley Casserly and Greg Cosell. Both Lombardi and Casserly have worked in NFL organizations before, while Cosell is the master of game tape breakdown. All of their resumes speak loudly in my opinion. In the final mock drafts of each they all have Zeitler near the bottom of round one, with Cosell specifically having the Steelers selecting him.

When you go back to one of the several quotes that Colbert made on Monday and reiterated again on Wednesday in regard to need, he said, “Need is not a good word, It\’s want. We want players.” Now one could twist that quote a few ways if one really wanted to and that is a specialty of mine. Is he implying that the word need is a synonym for want in his world? Yes I know, I am dissecting it way too much, but it was so profoundly stated that how could you not try to find an answer to that riddle that likely isn\’t a riddle at all. If you understand what I mean by that last sentence, you likely ain\’t right, much like me. I always try to over-analyze everything as it helps with my multiple afflictions, so please forgive me if I lost you already.

The Steelers certainly need a top rated guard early on in this draft, or as Colbert could be thinking, the Steelers want a top rated guard early on in this draft. He of course could care less about where you, I, Lombardi, Casserly and Cosell grade the top rated guards. He wants a top rated guard in the first two rounds, or is it needs a top rated guard in the first two rounds? Really it could be both. Looking at the top rated guards, while leaving out the perceived round grade, Zeitler matches everything required to be a Steeler on the surface. He is a move guard that has impeccable character, is very competitive and reportedly has great work habits. He reportedly scored a 33 on his Wonderlic test, so there is no question that he is a bright kid. Does he have his technical warts on tape? Absolutely, but so do the other top rated guards in this class.

I have mentioned several times about the positional value that Colbert desires in the draft with some regard to need, or is it want. If Colbert has Zeitler rated as the second best guard in the class behind DeCastro, that would mean the Zeitler positional value in his eyes is superb. Now I think it would be safe to say that it is highly unlikely that Zeitler makes it back around to the Steelers in round two. It is not impossible mind you, just highly improbable. This plays into his round grade that I have struggled with as it relates to him. I had that same type of struggle with tackle Marcus Gilbert last year, along with several other draftniks. I had Gilbert graded as a late third round tackle and had the Steelers selecting him there. Is it safe to say that Colbert wanted Gilbert in round two along with needing him? Could be. Would Gilbert have lasted another whole round? We will never get the answer to that question, but Colbert wanted Gilbert in round two and he got him. End of story.

Today Colbert looked mighty relaxed in his interview with Bob Labriola and Mike Prisuta. He looked very sure and confident as if he had already made the first round pick and got the player he both wanted and needed. Now of course he should be projecting that image as the Steelers GM, and as I said earlier in this post, I love to over-analyze everything.

With all of the above said let me end by reiterating that I have not ignored Zeitler in my mock draft process of educated guessing the Steelers first round pick. What I have likely ignored is the difference between need and want as it relates to the Steelers and round grades. Zeitler is a top guard in this class and it would now not surprise me at all if he is the player that Colbert both wants AND needs in the first round.

Should Zeitler not be the pick, then it is back to drawing board for me to figure out how need means want, or how want means need. It also could mean that I need to stop trying to find the answer to a riddle that really isn\’t riddle at all. It\’s just the way Colbert and the Steelers approach the draft. He might also have just wanted and needed another player other than Zeitler.

God help you if you understood this post and keep an open mind to Zeitler being the pick at 24. I want and need you to do that.

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  • zbluez1

    Would be a rather huge surprise If it was Zeitler in Rd 1 and B. Brooks in Rd 2, IF Colon , Pouncey, and Gilbert could stay healthy it would be a very solid O-line for years to come and possibly extend the playing career of Big Ben at QB. An interesting thought even if it were only momentary.

  • Akyourasea

    Dave, I love your site and what you do here. You mock draft would be fantastic IMO. But I think you’re really over thinking this need/want comment by Mr. Colbert. It seemed pretty clear in the context of the news conference that he doesn’t think the Steelers have the kind of holes that would create a “need.” In fact, he implied that there wasn’t anyone they could draft as a plug-&-play type. They “want” good players who will come in and compete – learn the system and position – and be groomed for a starting position down the line – some sooner and some later. I don’t think that comment was giving any secret hints about who they would draft, but was a vote of confidence about the team he has.

  • Intropy

    I think Zeitler is a high second round talent from what I’ve read up on him. The only tape I’ve seen is highlights which of course make him look like John Hannah playing high school kids. But he plays a position often regarded as “lesser” so I would not be surprised if he fell to the middle of the second round with maybe a 1/4 chance of being there for the Steelers.

  • Dave

    If the Steelers think Zeitler is worth the 24 overall, who am I to argue? I’ve said a couple times here, I remember last year people thought we could trade down to the late 30′s and still get Ras-I Dowling or Aaron Williams but they ended up going 33 and 34.

    That said, ideally, I like him better at, say, pick 30 than at 24.

    FWIW, Zeitler is #31 on Mayock’s big board.

  • JAMESH

    What he said.

  • JAMESH

    It is exactly what I would like to see. Zeitler 1st, Brooks 2nd, NT 3rd, then BPA LB, CB, RB and get a K before the draft is over. Let’s get it over with and not have to address the OLine again until after Ben retires.

  • Dave

    It’s hard to say – I think his value is closer to the 24 pick than the 56 pick. He may be a slight “reach” at 24 but I really doubt he’s still there at 56. Last year Danny Watkins went 23 overall to the Eagles. Just depends on how much better (if any) the Steelers think Zeitler is than somone like Silatolu or Brooks who probably would be there at 56.

  • zbluez1

    The problem being keeping Colon on the field at all, Pouncey’s ankle issues, and Gilbert’s shoulder issues even if we are “reaching” 7 places or less to get these guys I believe we can keep our “D” fresh just by being able to run the ball more consistently and sustain drives.

  • dgh57

    Again as in another post I said that Tomlin said they would address the O-Line somewhere in the draft! To me that means no O-Lineman early in the draft. I hope he is just trying to mislead other teams as to what they are trying to do in the draft because a O-Lineman was what I was hoping their 1st pick would be.

    Anybody know anything about Peter Konz a center out of Wisconsin who I’ve heard is best center in the draft who can also play guard?

  • RockyMountainSteeler

    You could also parse Colbert’s statement that there are only 10-12 first round picks worth drafting. Everyone assumed he meant for all the teams. He could have just as well meant there are that many the Steelers have the first round grade on. If one or more of their rated first rounders fall to them at 24, they’ll take the highest rated (by them) one. If not, look for them to trade down. And as for all the Fleener and Hightower lovers and mocks, it won’t happen. Fleener can’t block and Hightower can’t pass cover. Both are one trick ponies. Steelers only draft one trick ponies 3rd round or later. Just ask Mike Wallace. With the cap and roster space, there’s no room for specialists other than QB and kickers. Look for the Steelers to take a defensive player, or offensive player first (may be second round multiples with a trade down) that can play more than one position or multiple skill sets REALLY well. There are some second round offensive players that can and have played tackle, guard, and center. There are some linebackers who can play inside, outside, run stuff, and pass cover. I’m betting the Steelers have identified at least one of each on OF and DF. With all the trades that are likely, and QB tunnel vision, a premier player on that Steelers list may fall to 24.

  • Eric87

    I have been saying Zeitler for a while now as LG is very important in our scheme for pulling guards to the right. Of course if DeCastro would somehow fall, it should be a no brainer to trade up for him imo, no higher than 17 or 18, if that somehow was possible?

  • sweetleb

    the steelers may take 2 guards in the 2nd and 3rd, after all the have 2 openings. brooks in the 2nd and the kid from iowa st who’s name i can’t spell.

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