Potential Targets For The Steelers On Day Three Of The 2013 NFL Draft

Day two of the 2013 NFL draft is now in the books and it is now time to look ahead to the final day and speculate who the Pittsburgh Steelers might be targeting in the final four rounds.

With the outside linebacker, running back and wide receiver positions already addressed in the first three rounds, the Steelers could likely add a safety, inside linebacker, defensive end, guard, cornerback, tight end or even quarterback on day three. Here are some players that I will have my eyes on and please feel free to add your favorites in the comments below that I may have missed.

As far as safeties go, Phillip Thomas, Shamarko Thomas and Duke Williams are all strong safeties, that not only fit the Steelers system, but have also been in for pre draft visits. I would rank them just like I have them listed. Zeke Motta might even be another name that you could add to that list.

As far as inside linebackers go, Khaseem Greene, in my opinion, would fit as a backup MACK linebacker, while Kevin Reddick and Michael Mauti would both be candidates to play the BUCK position inside. While John Simon is an outside guy, I wonder to myself if he could make the transition inside. He is smart, strong, a leader and relentless. He\’s a football player and you can never have too many of those.

The Steelers could quite possibly could be in the market for a 3-4, 5-technique defensive end on day three, and in my opinion, Malliciah Goodman, Joe Kruger, Devin Taylor and David Bass could be possible candidates. Goodman, by the way, made a pre draft visit.

As far as swing guard/center candidates go, both Barrett Jones and Khaled Holmes remain on the board in a very week interior lineman class and guard Nik Embernate was in for a pre draft visit.

The Steelers brought several cornerbacks in for pre draft visits, and should they go that direction in day three, B.W. Webb, Terry Hawthorne and Jordan Poyer all appear to be good candidates. Of the three, Webb reportedly came to Pittsburgh for a pre draft visit.

Quarterbacks? The two that I really have my eyes on as late round or undrafted guys are Ryan Griffin and Sean Renfree, while Zac Dysert and Tyler Bray would both more than likely have to be drafted by the end of round five or six.

As far as tight ends go, Zach Sudfeld might go undrafted while Nick Kasa might be able to be had as late as the seventh round. The list at this position is very thin right now and that was to be expected.

Add us some more day three targets below.

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  • Chad Schmidgal

    Dave are you happy with the draft so far?

  • Jefferson_St_Joe

    Dave: I trust your analysis because I don’t know the college guys much. But…

    I have a feeling they could take a QB in the 4th or 5th. If Nassib or Barkley fall to them in the 4th, they might bite. If Landry Jones is there in the 5th, they might take him. (I don’t think they will over-reach for one if there is a run on QBs.)

    I don’t believe it is the right thing to do in terms of priorities, but I think they will try to have a QB with potential on the roster before entering in to extension talks with Roethlisberger next year.

  • SteelersDepot

    Nervous about Jones, OK with Bell & watching more tape tonight on Wheaton. I like to chew on things a while.

  • SteelersDepot

    I don’t think that drafting a QB early to help with Ben negotiations is a good plan. Ben will hold the upper hand regardless because of the fact he has a high cap number that needs to be lowered and the fact that he doesn’t HAVE to restructure again. Me, personally? I’m hoping they don’t draft one.

  • dgh57

    We gotta land a Safety in this draft! Either Thomas will do but I prefer Shamarko.

    We need o-line depth! Barrett Jones is fine with me. I’m surprised he’s lasted this long!

    I guess we could use a DE in this draft with Keisel possibly being in his last year. Kruger is fine there

  • David Edward

    I’m hoping the Thomas’s are in their plans for round 4. A guy I like who wasn’t in for a visit but is another candidate is Earl Wolff if they miss out on Shamarko or Philip. I’m thinking maybe they grab a QB in the 5th…would probably be Dysert or Jones unless Bray is there. Agree, that they don’t need to but might do so since they might get one lower than normal. I think the ILB they might grab is Vince Williams with the first 6th. Not sure that they even grab a CB at this point. I thought Will Davis was taken way too high. Maybe they consider Webb, but they really don’t need depth (they have the bodies) what they need is talent. I can see them going DL with 6b..how about Quinton Dial? he has the size. It seems like they can just pencil in Embernate for the 7th round, but you never know…they seemed to like Burdette too at ILB

  • zbluez1

    Like Phillip Thomas as the next pick(4Th), followed by John Simon (5th), Joe Kruger(6th), K. Holmes(6th Comp), and Kasa in the 7th, just MHO

  • David Edward

    Doubt they draft Simon after taking Jones…look what happened when they took Worilds and Gibson.

  • zbluez1

    I’m with dave, kick Simon inside to the Buck, he is smart enough to be there and has better speed than the current other options

  • Russian Steel

    I can’t believe Phillip Thomas is still available. I must be missing something. Know he had the injury a year ago. But 8 INTs, 3 TD returns, 4 sacks in 2012??? That’s Ed Reed territory. Would think he at least deserved late 2nd rd. I would trade up to get him at this point. Just think of all the INTs he could have with the Steelers from all the rushed throws caused by Jarvis Jones and co. pressuring the QBs.

    Never mind…just found out about his character red flag. Only way Steelers draft him is if he begs like Mike Adams did. It’s obvious the ‘lers are going for excellent character in this draft judging by the first three picks. (yeah yeah so what Jarvis Jones has been lazy working out…he’s still seems like a good dude)

  • Russian Steel

    I was down at first on Bell since he is relatively slow, but I understand where they are coming from now. 380 carries and still had two of his best games at years end. That is old school and impressive. Maybe his current 230 lb weight will be ideal for him in the pros (15 less than college I believe). I mean 230 is still pretty big.

  • hergieburbur

    I agree. The knock on knock on him is he isn’t a hitter. But you aren’t allowed to hit anymore anyway, and he IS a playmaker, big time.

  • Russian Steel

    I just edited my post…I LOVE the numbers next to his name. but he got suspended end of the year for something…whatever it is I doubt Steelers get him now. It sucks, but I do agree with getting good character guys. But you never know. 4th rd they might roll the dice. And actually, the fact he played I think 2 less games and still put up those numbers…WOW. Plus he had 12 TFL as a safety…wholly cow.

  • Joey

    Bacarri Rambo if he is there.

  • zbluez1

    Character Red Flag? all I know about is this…….
    Negatives: May not possess top-end timed speed some teams are looking for in a true center fielder against NFL passing attacks. Trusts his instincts and will occasionally get burned when gambling on play-action or double-moves by receivers. Missed the entire 2011 season with a broken left leg and dislocated left ankle that occurred during a non-contact drill just three days prior to the Bulldogs’ first game.
    Compares To: Michael Griffin, FS, Tennessee Titans — Like Griffin, Thomas boasts an impressive combination of size, athleticism and playmaking ability.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    Interesting article on John Simon…

    http://theozone.net/football/2013/simonshowsNFLscouts.html

    Maybe I’m reading a little too much into this but when Dick LeBeau says, “I think he (Simon) has flexibility… I think there’s SEVERAL areas that he could work at, I would just be looking to see where the best place for him is, to give him his best chance to play, and what we would be asking him to do. I’ll continue to look.”

    To me, it sounds like LeBeau is trying to figure out if Simon could play Buck ILB. Otherwise what’s so complicated? What is there to think about? If it was just a question of whether he could stand up and play OLB, that’s already pretty clear. The Steelers do that move in practically every draft. When LeBeau starts getting creative and going to the “think tank” it’s usually something bigger.

    Simon is: 6’1″ 257, 4.68 forty, 4.42 shuttle, 7.1 3-cone drill. (Compare that with:)

    Manti Te’o: 6’1″ 241, 4.82 forty, 4.27 shuttle, 7.13 3-cone drill.

    Alec Ogletree: 6’2″ 242, 4.7 forty, 4.39 shuttle, 7.16 3-cone drill.

    Khaseem Greene: 6’1″ 241, 4.71 forty, 4.2 shuttle, 7.58 3-cone drill.

    My point here is that (according to the combine numbers) Simon is just as fast and just as quick (changing directions) as any of these other ILB candidates. Yet he is much stronger and 15 pounds heavier. He is better at stacking and shedding iso OL blocks in the hole than ANY of these other guys. And his leadership intelligence is unquestionable. All of these factors scream “BUCK ILB” to replace Foote. Team Captain on defense. The only question is how well can he cover receivers in the open field.

    THAT is what LeBeau is trying to figure out.

  • Jefferson_St_Joe

    Again, I agree and I don’t qb should be a priority. But, IF they go qb-safety in the next 2 rounds, they will have broached 3 of their 4 biggest cap numbers (Roethlisberger, Woodley, Polamalu) in 2014 within 5 picks. IF that happens, I’m taking that as a sign they are drafting a potential exit strategy (by 2015) to salary cap problems in addition to drafting for talent and need.

    Yes, the fact is Roethlisberger doesn’t have to extend, but if he doesn’t the team may need to be gutted to keep him through the end of his contract. Another QB on the team offers some leverage and protection in case they have decided they don’t want to match the Aaron Rodgers deal, which is where they will need to go for Ben next year.

    Note: it seems like the Rodgers contract has been somewhat overstated since it doesn’t kick in ’til 2015.

  • Jefferson_St_Joe

    Just between us insomniacs;
    Didn’t like Jones.
    Don’t know Bell well enough to offer opinion vs. Lacy.
    Like Wheaton as a player, but not entirely sure as a fit.

  • Russian Steel

    lol…my bad. I think the insomnia is getting to me. Anyway, I confused the Fresno State Phillip Thomas with the Syracuse Phillip Thomas. FS Thomas has no character issues. That being said, I still don’t get how he has fallen this far. Sure he may not be a great tackler and gets burned occasionally, but since when has Troy Polamalu been a great tackler or not gotten burned every so often. Those 8 INTs leap off the screen.

  • hergieburbur

    I was just going to post that. He is not a character concern at all.

  • hergieburbur

    Wrong Thomas :)

  • hergieburbur

    Drafting a QB as contract leverage on a team with this many needs is folly.

    On another note, I don’t think that Jones has anything to do with Woodley, but more likely Worilds. Troy will take care of itself. He will likely have to take a cut to stay after this season. That is IF they can get a safety, which is their top need by far right now.

  • hergieburbur

    I can’t post the link, but here is what one of the NE fans’ draft sites says about him:

    “Phillip Thomas is one of the top three safeties in the 2013 NFL Draft
    class and if it were not for one small flaw in his game, he might have
    earned the top spot.

    Thomas is the “Troy Polamalu” of the
    Bulldogs’ new 3-4 defense and does a lot of the same things that the
    Steelers safety is asked to do. He can attack the ball and receivers
    from a single high safety position, rush from the edge, support the run
    from inside the box, or cover receivers running down the field….

    Thomas’ major flaw is his open field tackling. He stays a little high through the process, failing to sink his hips to allow for better lateral quickness. Boise State and Oregon running backs especially were able to use this deficiency to bust some big runs.”

  • hergieburbur

    Phillip Thomas is a better fit for us.

  • Jefferson_St_Joe

    I agree on the safety and qb, but I think Jones and Worilds and Woodley are all tied together. If Woodley repeats his output of the last 2 years, he can’t come back on his current contract..

  • Russian Steel

    Love Rambo’s name. Big fan of the Rambo franchise. But did you check out Phillip Thomas’ stats? I overreact like the next overzealous fan, but this is ridiculous the guy is still available. Maybe someone put a curse on him. I would trade our 4th and 5th rd picks to get this guy top of the 4th. He ran a ‘slow’ 4.57 40, so the Golden Calf of the NFL, the 40 time, wins out again over production. I bet Ryan Clark runs a 5.0 40 time and he’s fine back there.

  • hergieburbur

    He also can’t be cut without a 14 million dollar cap hit, given his recent restructure. For better or worse, Woodley is safe. Worilds on the other hand is in a contract year, and has been inconsistent at a position they just spent a number 1 pick on.

  • Russian Steel

    wow. the next Troy and in the 4th rd. sounds almost too good to be true, but then again many a great plays fell this far before. Never punch a gift horse in the mouth…I say we draft him, as in trade up to the top spot in the 4th. Just looked at Rambo’s profile…he looks like a playmaker too but not quite as impressive as Thomas. Thomas has only one year of eye popping stats though. But that one year is so amazing, I can’t see how we could pass up the opportunity and not regret it.

  • hergieburbur

    Thomas was on the rise when he got hurt and missed the ’11 season.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    4.17 – John Simon (ILB)

    5.17 – Earl Wolff (S)

    6.17 – Joe Kruger (DE)

    7.38 – Rodney Smith (WR)

    7.17 – Michael Mauti (ILB)

  • hergieburbur

    Another thing to note, the “Troy Polomalu” comment came from his HC, who also modeled Fresno’s defense after ours. As in, there is not likely to a closer defense to ours in the college ranks.

  • Russian Steel

    Can’t wait to find out what happens. I predict he goes to someone in top 2 or 3 picks of the 4th. I think with a whole night to sleep on it at least one GM will wake up in a cold sweat and determine that they need to draft this guy as soon as possible.

  • hergieburbur

    I think we would need to trade up to get him, yeah.

  • Mark Davis

    they don’t have 17 in every round

  • Jefferson_St_Joe

    It would hurt (dead money) if Woodley is cut, but he can’t be untouchable as a guy due another $8m if he doesn’t produce. If you are looking for solutions to salary cap problems. you have to deal with what you pay going forward. That $14M is already in Woodley’s pocket and is a sunk cost. The only question is over how many years you pay off that debt to the cap. Paying another $8m if he doesn’t produce only increases your overall debt to the cap.

    The easy solution is Woodley plays 16 games in 2013 and gets 12+sacks. We then pay him $8m in 2014 no problem.

  • Nolrog

    Day 3 is all about depth. We’ll see a Safety, an OL, maybe two, an ILB, a corner and probably another WR.

  • Nolrog

    There’s no OL there. We’re desperate for OL depth.

  • http://www.facebook.com/andrew.alberico.73 Andrew Alberico

    Lacy ran 4.59. Bell ran 4.60. Any idea what Bettis ran?

  • shaad

    4.48 territory

  • steeltown

    Happy Day Three to ALL

  • steeltown

    I like Barrett Jones.. and the Embernate kid is intriguing I think we could get him undrafted, good zone player

  • steeltown

    Might have to lose 10lbs, but would absolutely love to draft and try and move Simon to the BUCK

  • steeltown

    Agreed…. Cam Heyward is the only DE signed past 2013

  • steeltown

    What do you mean by “nervous”.. medically?.. or production wise?

  • http://www.facebook.com/brian.keyser.75 Brian Keyser

    I would love to see Simon in black and gold! They could use the depth no matter if he stays outside or moves in.
    What sucks is there seem to be some excellent players there that fit Pitt’s needs, but you know they can’t get them all. Would love to see Simon, Thomas, Webb, Dysert and Goodman/Kruger all be picked by Pitt! *it’s nice to dream*

  • mokhkw

    I like his build as is for the MACK spot tbh. I don’t think he would ever be great in coverage even if he did drop some lbs.

  • Stephen Dale

    since the Steelers have selected a medical risk #1, a plodding RB #2, and a short receiver #3, might as well select a 5’8″ safety in rd #4.

  • John Hinton

    Happy Day 3! I like the options you listed. I would however add Baccari Rambo to the list/discussions as others have below. Like Fresno State’s Thomas, Rambo is a ball-hawk/playmaker and as we all know, our D sorely needs more INTs/turnovers. From my perspective I would like to see us address Safety in the 4th Rd with Thomas (1), Rambo (2), Williams or Wolff. Troy and Ryan miss games due to injury and we need studs – not duds (aka Mundy) – as their back-ups/heirs apparent. In the 5th, I would like to address our BUCK/ILB need – Reddick or Simon.
    Side note: How cool would it be to see the name “Rambo” on a Steeler’s jersey?

  • mokhkw

    Well my Mock has sucked so far, but here’s a few more players worthy of discussion :

    1. Jesse Williams NT. Was a late 1st on some boards, draws comparisons to Ngata and JJ Watt.
    2. DaRick Rodgers. WR. 1st Rd talent, but is his head screwed on correctly? I might be prepared to risk a pick to find out because if he’s focused he could be the best WR in this Draft.
    3. Nico Johnson ILB. Like John Simon better, but if he’s gone this would be a good alternative.
    4. Chris Gragg TE/WR. Injuries curtailed his career & I don’t think he would ever be an in-line TE but could make an excellent H-Back or WR.
    Other names mentioned already that I agree would be good picks include P.Thomas from Fresno, J.Simon, S,Thomas, Kruger, Mauti. There’s a lot of talent still available for day 3.

  • dgh57

    With Bettis speed didn’t matter. He ran over and through people! Bell will do the same thing!!

  • dgh57

    Yes, and Hood is in a contract year and Corbine Bryant as a backup which isn’t saying much.

  • David Edward

    Lol…truth be told though, Shamarko is a good fit to do many of the things they ask the SS to do

  • steeltown

    I think you mean backup Al Woods… but even he is a UFA after 2013

    I wish we could get Corbin Bryant back, for depth

  • dgh57

    Yes, I did mean Al Woods and yes Bryant would be a better backup!

  • hergieburbur

    True, when I say untouchable, I mean I doubt they are willing, or able, to stomach the cap hit. That much dead money on a cap strapped team is a big deal.