Steelers 2013 Draft – DiMarino Early Round Pick Discussion

By Christopher DiMarino

Now that I\’ve covered which positions should be and shouldn\’t be in the conversation for the first round pick of the Pittsburgh Steelers, I want to expand the scope to the first few rounds. I am going to focus in on the WR, OLB and S positions for this analysis. Matching the offer sheet that Emmanuel Sanders received from the New England Patriots leaves them still owning three middle area picks in the top three rounds. While I understand that it might be a CB or NT or OG, these are all best player available situations, and unorthodox ones at that. I will stick to the only reliable data to analyze which is need and logic based. First, I\’ve listed a group of guys who could be available at each selection. Don\’t get overly critical here, just the names I chose.

1.17

2.16

3.17

WR

Cordarrelle Patterson

Keenan Allen

Quinton Patton

Keenan Allen

Justin Hunter

Ryan Swope

DeAndre Hopkins

Markus Wheaton

Robert Woods

Tavarres King

Terrance Williams

Chris Harper

OLB

Ezekiel Ansah

Alex Okafor

Chase Thomas

Barkevious Mingo

Damontre Moore

Brandon Jenkins

Jarvis Jones

Jamie Collins

Trevardo Williams

Alex Okafor

Corey Lemonier

Michael Buchanan

Damontre Moore

Sio Moore

John Simon

S

Kenny Vaccaro

Matt Elam

Shamarko Thomas

Matt Elam

Jonathan Cyprien

Bacarri Rambo

 Jonathan Cyprien

Eric Reid

T.J. McDonald

Phillip Thomas

Shawn Williams

D.J. Swearinger

J.J. Wilcox

Now that we understand which players should be available, if the Steelers chose their position in a given round, it\’s easy to do run the top 3 round selection scenarios. Keep in mind, that some of the players listed above are reaches and some will likely be gone, but it’s all educated guesswork at this point.

SCENARIO

DRAFT PICK

1.17

2.16

3.17

1

WR

OLB

S

Cordarelle Patterson

Alex Okafor

Phillip Thomas

2

WR

S

OLB

Keenan Allen

Jonathan Cyprien

Corey Lemonier

3

S

OLB

WR

Jonathan Cyprien

Jamie Collins

Terrance Williams

4

S

WR

OLB

Kenny Vaccaro

Justin Hunter

Sio Moore

5

OLB

S

WR

Alex Okafor

Eric Reid

Quinton Patton

6

OLB

WR

S

Jarvis Jones

Robert Woods

Shamarko Thomas

The scenarios are numbered randomly and intended to be an exercise that forces me to consider all of the possible scenarios. It became quite clear when filling out these six scenarios, which position I liked to pick in each round (several and/or strong options) and which positions were tough to pick (only one option/ don\’t like any). If I had to pick a scenario that I liked, I would say that #4 would be my favorite. You get a great safety, a talented wide receiver and a solid if not slightly undersized pass rusher.

I will list below, some of the notes I made:

– I couldn\’t find an OLB that I felt comfortable picking in the 1st round

– Cordarrelle Patterson just doesn\’t seem to fit the Steelers mold and Keenan Allen might fall to the second round.

– Kenny Vaccaro might not be like Mark Barron, but he certainly would be a great Steeler.

– 2nd round OLBs are a bit scary. Outside of Alex Okafor, you really don\’t know what you\’re getting.

– There are almost too many options in the 2nd round at Safety, but none are clear favorites over the others.

– I think the 2nd round is a great spot for WR. Keenan Allen might drop, Robert Woods is a great option and Justin Hunter looks really exciting.

– Based on the indecision in the first 2 rounds, there is a need for an OLB in the 3rd and there are several interesting guys like Corey Lemonier and Sio Moore.

– Lots of depth at WR, and the 3rd should have few solid options too like. Chris Harper and Tavarres King are safe picks while Quinton Patton (if available) and Ryan Swope might be exceptional.

– By the 3rd round, there are options at S but they are clearly not in the same league as the better ones.

  • Kevin Gobleck

    If we could go 1st K. Vaccaro, 2nd Keenan Allen then 3rd Sio Moore, i will be doing back flips!

  • Kevin Gobleck

    or even DeAndre in the second would be awesome!

  • zyzak

    Hopkins won’t get past first rd or top 40

  • Intropy

    Interesting way to construct it. Using that technique and limiting to those options, I think I like {Vaccaro, Collins, Swope}. I think the weakest “box” for value relative to position with respect to this draft is OLBs in the 3rd.

  • JC

    Vaccaro, Woods, Sio Moore would be my picks in this scenario.

  • nikgreene

    I understand this just an exercise, but why are we not including RB in our early round discussion? Even if they sign Bradshaw I’d love to see them draft an explosive RB.

  • David Edward

    Hi Chris, I think you put some good effort into your work, but that’s not how the Steelers would approach the draft. Maybe if they only needed those 3 positions and that’s all they need. I think you started to do this but you should really break every position down and then group them in tiers. You can throw out QB since they shouldn’t be considering them on day one or two if at all. I’ll post below what I mean and how I put together tiers in building my board for the Steelers

  • David Edward

    Tier 1 for each position is the #1 guy at that position any anyone else who you grade very close to that guy and you would consider a nearly equal alternative. Here are my tier 1’s…
    RB – Bernard, Lacy
    WR – Austin
    TE – Eifert
    OT – Joeckel, Fisher, Johnson
    G – Cooper, Warmack
    C – I’ll keep them out since they won’t draft a pure C
    NT – Star
    34DE – Floyd
    34OLB – Jordan
    34ILB – Brown, Ogletree
    CB – Milliner, Rhodes
    S – Vaccaro, Elam, Cyprien, Reid
    Now I take my. best tier 1’s to form my overall Tier 1 regardless of position. I’ll post that below….

  • David Edward

    I view the top guys at RB, ILB, and S slightly below the rest of the guys at the other positions so my overall Tier 1 is (in no particular order)…
    Austin, Eifert, Joeckel, Fisher, Johnson, Cooper, Warmack, Star, Floyd, Jordan, Milliner, Rhodes. Now that’s only 12, so it’s possible all could be gone by 17. If any are left, though, I’d feel comfortable I’m getting a BAA. I can make a case that I can use any of those guys. If more than one are available, then I can either pick the one I ranked higher within the 12 or even consider moving down if I still think I can get one of them.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    An honest question. Please tell me why you guys think Vacarro is so good?

    He is not fast. He ran a 4.62 forty at the combine (by comparison Polamalu ran a 4.35). Vacarro is not strong. 15 reps on bench. He does not produce interceptions. 5 total INT’s in four years at Texas (like 1 per year). And he’s only 6’0″ tall which limits his coverage abilities against TEs or tall WRs.

    So what is it you like so much about him?

  • DerpinDickard

    shhh just let me dream.

  • grw1960

    # 4 is the best of the lot. And will agree with D.E.’s posts below.
    2. You have to look at tweener possibilities.
    Though some sites may have Sio Moore ,Collins, K. Greene and others listed as OLBs. Those 3 named players listed could also play ILB on some teams.
    Also when looking for OLBs after the 1st round in the 34 Defense you have to also look at
    DEs who could possibly play OLB.

  • SteelerDave

    Only problem with this is that there is no OLB, WR or S worthy of being picked at 17 as each has great value picks available in rounds two and three.

    2nd round WRL Hopkins, Hunter, Woods. 3rd round WR Patton, Swope, Wheaton

    2nd round OLB Jamie Collins, Sio Moore. 3rd round OLB Thomas, Williams

    2nd round S Cyprien, Thomas, Elam. 3rd round S Thomas, Rambo

    Another problem we have is the lack of top end talent at RB. Let’s face it, unless we grab Ball, Bell or Bernard in round two or three we will need to wait till next year to find a true number one RB. I actually shy away from RB until the 6th when my pick is Knile Davis.

    My draft, round 1 is Eifert, 2 – Hopkins, 3 – Thomas, 4 ? 5 ? 6 – Davis. We cannot draft upon need alone. We need to draft value (best athlete available + character + lack of injury risk/history).

  • Nolrog

    Seems to be a lot of Keenan Allen. He has some red flags based on a suspicious test at the combine; not a failed drug test but an odd result that could be him trying to flush drugs out of his system.

    There are also some reports of character issues; reports say he didn’t interview well at the combine, and some teams though he was “big-timing” them (report from Rotoworld, you have to look it up yourself, cannot post links.)

  • Stephen Dale

    As an OU fan, I watched vaccaro for four years and am still waiting for him to have made an impact in the OU-UT game. the last two years, average OU teams torched the Horns for 127 pts !!!! Apparantly Vaccaro didn’t have much influence in those games… IMO, this guy is going to be a major disappointment in the NFL.

  • Jollyrob68

    Drafting Eifert,Hopkins,Thomas is an awesome start to the draft. Then draft Hodges,Wr Harrison,Niles,Kruger & Mauti would round it out nicely.
    If they don’t double dip at Wr then Draft Khalid Holmes C,USC

  • moderatelysane

    This is a great analysis Chris. Nice work and thank you. I could certainly live with Allen, cyprien, lemonier, if lemonier falls to the 3rd . I think all three could be starters within a year or two. Allen could be special. Good work.

  • Reg Sayhitodabadguy Hunt

    AGREE BRILLIANT APPROACH THATS A A CAN’T MISS FORMULA THAT I WOULD HAVE USED BUT YOU HAVE ONLY TWELVE WHICH MAY ALL BE GONE BUT REALLY ONE SHOULD BE AVAILABLE AT S17 BUT I WOULD EXPAND JUST A BIT SINCE YOU CROSSED YOUR T’S THAT WILL DOT YOUR I’s

  • http://www.facebook.com/Wilkes420 Christopher Wilkes

    I don’t understand limiting this to those 3 positions. I don’t even think S or OLB are in our top 3 needs. I understand we might draft one with our top 3 picks, but if you’re talking need then I’d go for WR, ILB, CB or RB before those other two positions.

    If I had to go with your formula I’d go Cordarrelle Patterson, Eric Reid, Ryan Swope.

  • SteelerFanInMD

    Vaccaro was arrested twice while at Texas. He will have to explain that to teams looking to draft him.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    If you’ll notice, none of the Vaccaro fans ever answer these questions. Because he doesn’t produce splash plays and they know it. He’s one of those guys that is pretty good all around. Nothing special in any one area. But his name has been on draft boards so long people just assume he must be good without actually having watched the games. I would consider him in the 3rd or 4th round but this talk of 1.17 is insane. That’s Polamalu range. You don’t draft a 4.6 forty Safety at 1.17.

  • Jonathon Bert Schade

    I really like Eifert at #1, I dunno if Hopkins will be around for two but if not there are others,(Bailey, Patton, etc), I’m not sold on Thomas, though. I like Sio Moore there, then Webb and Duke Williams. 6,6a and 7 a RB, OL and another WR. I keep wondering if it isn’t possible to trade down in the first and still be able to get Eifert.

  • Maurice_hill_district

    Good list of helpful findings & points. And sounds like you did the research, too bad more writers of articles dont do that. Very helpful.

  • SteelerDave

    I agree that would be a stellar draft.

  • SteelerDave

    I expect Eifert to go anywhere from 15 to 30 depending on the teams needs. Trade down no more than five or six spots and we would be safe but not many teams are going to be willing to trade up as after the top five or so picks the talent level is about the same for next 50 players.

  • Maurice_hill_district

    Its because your question is a repeated one of long ago answered long ago on this website. Also you can research him plenty yourself, if you have a computer. Anyone who never watched tape of a player can quote a 40 time they read & fall in love with workout warriors, & anyone can quote reading that the UTX defense was not good enough.

  • Maurice_hill_district

    Wow you can read numbers results that are on websites which include combine results, amazing. Your saying you never watched him or even tape of him. So you wont be running anyone’s draft board.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    You’ve proved my point exactly. In both of your comments you have not mentioned one single trait that makes Vaccaro elite. That seems to be the pattern amongst all the Vaccaro fans.

    And I have watched his tape. He’s a good solid safety. I’d draft him in the 3rd round. But if I’m drafting a guy at 1.17, I want him to be much much better than the guys available in the 3rd round, and IMO Vaccaro is not.

  • John Hinton

    I also like scenarion #4…I just hope Vaccaro is still available when we pick at #17. I have a feeling he’s going to be a special player at the next level.