Steelers To Look For Tackles Under Stones

The Pittsburgh Steelers not only turned the football over Sunday night in their 40-23 loss to the Chicago Bears, they also turned over their tackles as well due to poor play.

“They hadn’t played well enough to justify otherwise,” head coach Mike Tomlin said during his post game press conference. “We’re going to look at viable guys, we’re going to turn the stones over in an effort to find a winning formula and we’re not going to be bashful about that.”

Starters Mike Adams and Marcus Gilbert played so poorly at different points in the game that Kelvin Beachum played both spots at different times throughout the contest.

“Kelvin Beachum has earned an opportunity to play in the rotation, he did tonight because of it,” Tomlin said.

Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was once again under heavy pressure most of the night and Adams and Gilbert share a lot of the blame for that. Neither are handling twist and stunts well and both have technique problems that won’t be fixed overnight.

The Steelers travel to London next week to take on the winless Minnesota Vikings and I bet defensive end Jared Allen cant wait for Adams to arrive. Beachum very well might start on the left side, but even he might not be able to handle Allen.

The Steelers have second-round draft picks invested in both Adams and Gilbert and right now both look like backups. The draft is still several months away and it is obvious they will need to burn yet another early round pick on a tackle that can play on the left side if they don’t acquire one via free agency.

I wonder if they have tackles under stones in London.

I am, I'm me. 40 something, retired and a life long Steelers fan.
  • walter mason

    Im still shaking my head over Starks. He couldnt be worse.

  • Shannon Stephenson

    It is hard for me to give up on guys so early in their careers, especially guys who were pegged to be good players but I agree that something needs to be done. This is where we are at and we have to make our own bed. Stick with the young guys and coach them up and if they do not improve then we will look for other in the draft. Show these guys you have confidence in them and hope they will get better and perform because we have little choice here.

  • Shannon Stephenson

    even if he doesn’t start just having a veteran presence to help the kids out should be a plus. Almost like a extra coach

  • Douglas Andrews

    I’m all for playing these young guys and giving them time to gell but Adams..WTH was that he got schooled by j Peppers. Gilbert should be much better he played RT last year and was decent. Not sure what’s happening but there was alot of defensive guys with clear paths to the QB

  • Aric Brown

    I think the steelers showed a lot of good signs tonight… we spotted them 23 points and the defense save for a 55 yard run… played lights out

  • Marcela Garza-Meza

    Plain and simple I don’t know why Adams is with the team?, he get caught smoking marijuana, and last time I cheked that was What get Holmes the ticket out of town.

  • Shannon Stephenson

    Gilbert should be playing well as it is his 3rd year, although he has been hurt, but you are right, what the heck is going on here?

  • Shannon Stephenson

    If every single player on the Steelers were kicked off the team for smoking weed at sometime in their life we would have like 2 players on the team. Leave the past where it is unless he wants to begin doing what he had done before. I am more worried about what he did tonight in the game!

  • Shannon Stephenson

    Next up….Guy Whimper!

  • T R

    oh god no.. Ben woud be on IR

  • bgsteelfan

    At this point I am almost wondering how much worse he could be. Beachum NEEDS to be starting.

  • bgsteelfan

    It took more than that to get Holmes a ticket out. Besides, Adams is better than Gilbert.

  • Marcela Garza-Meza

    Exactly, I am just saying that above it all he sucks, so why to bother?

  • Josh Knepshield

    And with the 14th pick kn ths 2014 nfl draft, the pittsburgh steelers select taylor lewan, offensive tackle, michigan

  • bgsteelfan

    Not enough people are talking about coaching’s role in this.

  • bgsteelfan

    He signed elsewhere this week.

  • bgsteelfan

    The way they are playing right now, the only way they are seeing the 14th pick is if they trade back.

  • Don

    I think they’ll be picking earlier than that.

  • Marcela Garza-Meza

    14 pick? Too optimistic!

  • Marcela Garza-Meza

    I say 5th pick, maybe higher!

  • Shannon Stephenson

    point taken.

  • Don

    So they’ve had 9 turnovers and not a single takeaway yet. I think KC and Philly set the record last year with only 13 takeaways. Right now, 13 looks a long way off. Not being able to get the ball back has been the most frustrating thing for me to watch. They finally started getting some pressure, and I thought that might yield a turnover. But only a few near-misses.

  • Douglas Andrews

    One reporter said that the first impression of Bicknell was that he was unimpressive as an O line coach in TC. Now i see why.

  • bgsteelfan

    In the PS, I was willing to give him a break. But three games in and the only improvement I have seen is when they finally realized Beachum is better than Gilbert.

  • Reader783

    5-11

  • Marcela Garza-Meza

    I watched the defense to put a lot of pressure, but some how QB are getting away, maybe the problem are the backs and safeties!

  • bgsteelfan

    Jones has whiffed quite a few times on getting the QB down.

  • Marcela Garza-Meza

    That would be a dream, And they had a great and long run, so why not to get a season to prepare rockies ang get higher in the draft?, because 5 11 its not that bad to be inside the first 5 draft picks!

  • Marcela Garza-Meza

    I really thought he could be a game changer, its too early to say he is not and he had a few plays, but certainly we are lacking of that spark!

  • Patrick Sheridan

    Put Beachum in at left move Adams to right where he looked like a road grater last year and put gilbert on the bench to think about what he can do to get better.

  • Don

    In the second half I thought the D played well. Pressure causes QBs to make mistakes. I really hope this is a sign of what’s to come. A few takeaways are bound to result, right? Right?

  • bgsteelfan

    I definitely think he can and will be, but he isn’t there yet.

  • bgsteelfan

    That is step 1

  • Curtis

    trade rams gilbert for starks

  • Dan

    It’s really hard to grade the o-line from watching the network’s feed, but from what I saw the worse player on the o-line was Foster. I kept seeing him join in to double-team a guy that was already being blocked while a free player made a path straight to the QB. I seem to recall a big penalty with his number on it as well.

  • schlong

    Think of the skill players we could have instead of burning all those high picks on underperforming lineman

  • bgsteelfan

    We have skill players that are good enough to win. What we don’t have it a line.

  • bgsteelfan

    I don’t think that is Foster so much as the line overall. I don’t think any of them really understand their assignments all that well.

  • Curtis

    rams

  • Curtis

    easy fix for next year, keep Fernando at center move Pouncy to guard try to make deal with rams or see if they release starks and place him tackle and try to find another tackle in FA

  • CrazyTerry

    I dont care if Starks looked bad for SD. The fact is THERE IS NO WAY STARKS CAN BE AS AWFUL AT PASS BLOCKING as Adams was these three games. And the worst thing is hyou could have gotten Starks for cheap and so even if starks failed, you lost nothing. You could have had Beachum and Starks producing stability at tackle. Foster has regressed big time. The only good news is Decastro looked better in this game after his awful underwhel,ming play previously. Velasco has things to learn, but he looks pretty decent, Imagine if Velasco wasnt available , this line would be in total shambles. Why does it take 3 games for Tom;lin and Haley to realize Beachum needs to go in at tackle? Why would they sign a loser like Whimper if he can’t replace an awful Adams at LT?
    Time to move Adams to RT and see if he can cut it there. GIlbert is a backup for now. Foster has regrssed this year.
    The worst thing is these idiots were giving up sacks even when Chicago went to a time killing soft D later inthe 4th Q. How is tha tpossible? Even when the D lets up, you are stil giving up sacks.

  • CrazyTerry

    Imagine if they had Hoyer instead of keeping Leftwich after the Balt disaster last year and passed on E Sanders to NE. THey could have had 2M extra in cap space, used and extra 3rd and 4th round pick on two players to bolster depth.

  • John Mazza

    I agree that Beachum needs to get some time in to wake these guys up. Adams needs some help over there when you have someone legit on his side. He had a poor showing but it was Peppers he’s good people. I will research tomorrow but was he getting any help over there with a pro bowler coming at him? TE or RB chipping? I didn’t see much if any.

  • CrazyTerry

    Why does it take 2 games to give Dwyer a major role? he is a better blocker than Felix. When your line cant block, why wouldnt you put a better blocking RB? Redman is finished. Maybe he is injured. He cant block all of a sudden. he can’t run all of a sudden. I dont know what happened ot him. Why are you wasting a gameday spot for him ? Why was Paulson playing today? Why not have Moye and another lineman?

  • CrazyTerry

    Foster has been a major disappointment. He, Gilbert and Adams have gotten worse.

  • John Mazza

    I agree. Kids need time. They are going up against strong guys with years of experience. The Seahawks had a terrible line a few years ago. They were all young and had trouble staying healthy. Sounds familiar

  • CrazyTerry

    This defense is an ALMOST good defense. When there is no urgency in the other offense, this defense is gangbusters. But once the other offense shows something, these guys are almost there on sacks. Almost there on pass breakups. Almost there on passdeflection. Oh wait, scratch that. Except Keisel and Heyward, they cant tip passes. LeBeau has to take the blame for his coaching the last two years which got too comfortable with veterans without any urgency to develop the younger players like Heyward, keisel. Heyward will be like Keisel. just as he developes into a decent player, he will be a frree agent.
    How the hell does LeBeau feel like Foote is good enough as the only real option without the safety net of a half decent backup? Why does Lebeau not say Sylvestor is not an option to play this year. did it trake all of training camp and preseason to realize Slyvestor was not in their plans after they saw him play for two or so years? THeir late cut of Sylvestor left them with no real options in free agency and the draft was over. At least Hood played a better game, still maybe because he wsa facing rookies on the OL on the right side.

  • CrazyTerry

    It’s quite simple. TRADE FOR STARKS today.

  • Reg Sayhitodabadguy Hunt

    Lol you think we have no corners all we have is guys that can run and tackle no cover skills what so ever.although they’re acklung better i never. liked ike or gay ike gets abused on every third down play its third and two. why give the reciever a ten yard cushion go ahead an hate my post just to find out next game i was right again

  • CrazyTerry

    Someonne explain to me how Chicago which had a worse OL in the recent past were able to get two rookies to be part of a much better line and in th emeantime we are making excuses for the slow development of 2nd and 3rd year players.

  • Caesar

    Nah, they may be up into Jake Matthews territory!

  • Brandon Andrews

    wow insightful not in any trouble since he got here hand clapping and our new gm is that guy

  • Brandon Andrews

    you tube him

  • Russ Ruffing

    And STILL nobody wants to say nary a negative word about Big Ben!!

    I’ll say it again, he is a bottom-ten QB now and he singlehandedly lost that game last night, just like he has lost so many others the last two-plus seasons. He had a pretty clean pocket for most of the game.

    Somebody needs to do an analysis of how many games the Steelers had a chance in only to have Ben throw an INT or lose a fumble at a critical moment to lose the game in the last two or three seasons. How about it, Steelers Depot? You guys do a great job breaking down stats. Try that exercise out and I bet a lot of Ben lovers that visit this site will be shocked to see the results.

  • walter mason

    This year will probably be Starks last

  • walter mason

    Pretty clear pocket? My god his hand was smashed and bleeding, his knees were bent backwards. Several times his arm hit another player. He had no room to step up or scramble. He was being squeezed all night from both sides. Sometimes they came untouched up the middle. However it seems he was having trouble gripping the ball.

  • walter mason

    Trade who? Whimper?

  • Shannon Stephenson

    new offensive line scheme

  • Weiss Chad

    Really.Ike taylors the problem????I couldn’t disagree more.Are you talking this week when he shut down marshall or last week when he shut down green with no help??I’m not gonna like your post but in order to be right again you have to be right the first timr.-just sayin

  • JB

    you have 2 1’s and 2 2’s on the OL and they are this bad? I think that even the worst drafting teams don’t whiff that often. Coaching, coaching, coaching. Need to find an O Line coach who can coach. Is Russ Grimm around?

  • dkoy85

    Did you really just put a space between you and tube? That’s like Mc Donald’s. Sorry not one for pointing out grammatical errors but this one made me GIGGLE!

  • treeher

    I’ve been blaming the coaching more than the players in these posts and nothing has changed my mind. How many years have we had OL issues and we STILL have them. Both of our #1 picks have gone out in successive years due to friendly fire … some of that is due to bad technique, which goes back to coaching. Team thinks all they have to do is draft high and problem solved. Obviously not.

  • Bell Cow

    Here is my question for Tomlin and Kevin Colbert.

    You spent all off season evaluating players like Marcus Gilbert and Mike Adams. Did you not have concerns during the off season? Are you actually surprised with how poorly they are playing? So now, you’re finally going to attempt to address that position and find replacements.

  • r4kolb

    This just in…….08ers have now banned team from buying snacks out of the snack machine……also next weekend Tomlin says they will unleash hell, the standard is the standard, next man up, etc. etc. etc…..

  • http://www.facebook.com/andrew.alberico.73 Andrew Alberico

    They will have one of the top three picks. Possibly the first.

  • Luke Shabro

    3 weeks or maybe even 2 weeks ago I would’ve laughed at this suggestion. Now it looks pretty good actually. Pretty sad when your 7th rounder is outplaying both 2nd rounders.

  • Luke Shabro

    I really can’t figure out as this point what is worse, the talent or the coaching. Jack Bicknell Jr. is not coaching these guys up well at all. No one seems to understand the protection and the line constantly looks like a jail break. Mike Adams is getting handled consistently and Gilbert looks like he’s giving up on every play.

  • Tim Bodamer

    I read somebody mentioning Duane Brown (Texans) getting manhandled for 3 sacks as a rookie early on- and now is a Pro Bowler. Adams has his ups and downs. There were plays he held his own. He is young and has the potential. This is my answer- move Adams to right tackle, draft one of the elite left tackles coming out (there are three-Bama, Mich, A&M)…then resign Velasco. This gives position flexibility. If Pouncey plays and has a dominant year, he’ll want too much money, let him walk. Sign a free agent guard to play aside the rookie left tackle. Then you have Foster, Beachum and Velasco as options. (release Gilbert) And when you look at the Cap numbers, you are paying six of the eight lineman rookie salaries, Foster a manageable cap hit, and Velasco the same. There’s your 8. Get a safety to team with Thomas.

  • Ahmad

    Anyone else notice that the Bears ran twists and stunts on practically every play in the 4th quarter or was that just my imagination?

  • Jeff Johnson

    They need an early first round pick and make a move to get a top LT is what they need to do in the next off season

  • Tim Bodamer

    I wont’ say clean…to Walter’s point, he got banged around…but there were often times he could step up and make a throw. What is happening is they guys are sending six or seven guys and we can’t protect that. Ben never likes the hot read… So when there is more rushers than blockers, that’s where he is in trouble… I laughed when Sanders caught the screen the right way the second time and Collinsworth was praising him like he learned to ride a bike…umm, does he not know how to run the play??? Back to Ben, I think he can be selfish wanting to make the big splash play. Live to paly another down- literally and figuratively. He is such a prima donna getting up slow, but he often causes that himself because he doesn’t have the internal clock or accuracy of the elite QBs IMO

  • Jeff Johnson

    I’d say, they’ll have an earlier pick than the 14th pick

  • Luke Shabro

    And apparently a better line coach than Bicknell Jr.

  • Jeff Johnson

    I agree

  • Jeff Johnson

    This season is going to be a down season and a learning season for many of the young players. We just have have to accept that. Yes it hurts to watch these games with them playing like they have being a big steeler fan. They will get an early draft pick for the first time in a while and hopefully draft a top LT with that pick.

  • Jeff Johnson

    Jaguars will probably have the first pick

  • Jeff Johnson

    For next year! how about they draft a top LT with an early draft pick

  • Jeff Johnson

    LeBeau has his CB’s playing too far off of the WR’s and his secondary (except for Troy) playing too soft

  • Jeff Johnson

    Just like the chiefs hired a better special teams coach. Tomlin has been looking in the wrong places and hiring position coaches for the wrong reasons

  • Jeff Johnson

    Colbert and Tomlin should be blamed some also on putting the team together and a bad product on the field

  • bonairsfavoriteson

    We need more ol man with the fire inside like Richie Incognito but who play a lot smarter and control their temper, but his competitive spirit is about winning.

  • Luke Shabro

    I’ll take Lewan or Matthews. Good thing we took Landry Jones and not Bakthiari or Jordan Mills…

  • Luke Shabro

    As we were getting demolished I kept thinking “the standard is the standard” and the standard is garbage. Sloppy, no direction

  • Luke Shabro

    His accuracy has been especially poor this year. Overthrowing and underthrowing a lot. Especially overthrowing. I feel like he’s trying to do too much

  • Jazz

    Enough of this crap! Yes, they are young, but C’mon Man! These guys are pathetic! Gilbert? The guy acts like he doesn’t even want to play football. I agree, I think Adams is better suited for the RT position. Neither one of them are capable of playing LT. I blame that solely on Mike Tomlin; he has done a poor A$$ Job evaluating talent. His O/L Coach is worthless! Todd Haley isn’t Bruce Arians, but he has opened up the Offense. Although it still kills me on some of his play calls; Big Ben? Hmm! Curious to know why know one on here has given him some of the blame too. Yes, his O/L is pathetic, I get that. But how many times have we seen this guy throw a pick six deep in his territory? The fumbles? Like I’ve always said, he gets in the way of himself far too often. There is nothing wrong with throwing the ball away and living for another down or series. But oh no, he has to make a splash play on every play. Big Bens play has started to hurt the team far more than it has helped. He deserves some blame as well. I was at the game last night, first time watching the Steelers in Pittsburgh, very exciting, the outcome was pathetic. Antonio Brown is an all around better WR than Mike Wallace, lets put that argument to rest. The only thing Wallace has over Brown is speed, and he’s more physical at the point of attack. The Steelers better start thinking about drafting a LT or spend some Damm Money During Free Agency and pick one up. The current experiment has gone no were with Adams and Gilbert. And for the life of me, why in the hell doesn’t Colbert look at Colleges such as Alabama, LSU and Wisconsin for Offensive Lineman? He deserves just as much blame as Tomlin.This team has no dept at all. Poor drafting by Colbert the previous 7yrs in the middle rounds.

  • r4kolb

    Don’t forget the great talent evaluator Colbert drafted Kraig Urbik in 2009 w the second pick in the 3rd round….oh wait they cut him for….Ramon Foster…nevermind

  • bgsteelfan

    You missed the sarcasm. I KNOW he sucks. So do Adams and Gilbert currently.

  • http://edsjournal.com/ Crowljor

    I’m praying for this at least.

  • Bob Graff

    It’ wasn’t a month ago when i said “these are the same guys that stunk it up a year ago” and don’t expect good thing because they are who they are. The biggest problem is poor coaching it all started with Haley. KC. finally figured it out look where they are at. BTW they didn’t have to get new players just a new coaches and a game manager at QB. What are we waiting for for nothing will change until the problem is fixed. Start by letting loose of Haley and Bricknell. Then replace them with quality coaches [not so and so kid] . It’s going to take a very good coach or two to turn this mess around.

  • Patrick Sheridan

    I wish we would get back to grading based on play and not on draft status.

  • Steeler Wheeler

    Which two?

  • Steeler Wheeler

    He shows signs of greatness…don’t forget, James Harrison was looking for work his first year or two out of college.

  • Steeler Wheeler

    I somewhat agree. On third and 2 play press coverage and dare the QB to get 30 yards or a TD. That’s a low percentage play, make them drop back 5 or seven steps and make that throw. Giving them 5 yards is maddening.

  • Curtis

    Really hasn’t worked for us yet, with the tackles both I think were #2’s

  • Chad H

    I said it last week and I will say it again. Jones will be better on the inside just like Timmons is.

  • Curtis

    you may be right then go into F.A. and find a couple the 2 we got now don’t like interested or just don’t get it. Dominate college next level little more intense.

  • bgsteelfan

    They cut Urbik to keep Hills, not Foster. Which is even worse.

  • r4kolb

    Wikipedia says otherwise. Maybe you can edit it correctly. I’d leave link to it but I think Dave frowns upon that.

  • Bilgewater D

    14th pick. Bwahahahaha.

  • Bilgewater D

    Kills me when people start talking like this 3 games into a career. When’s the last time a rookie has come in and played as well on defense as him as a starter?

  • JohnnyV1

    Perhaps there’s one or two hiding behind the rocks of stonehenge?

  • Reg Sayhitodabadguy Hunt

    Pay close attention when we play against a good qb (not the next two games ) they go after ike gay also

  • ecmo3 .

    This is the

  • bgsteelfan

    Why is Wikipedia weighing in on opinions in the first place? It is true that Foster beat him out as the top backup guard in that year, but at the time Foster was a two-position player and they chose to keep Foster and Hills to have two OTs rather than Foster and Urbik to have two OGs.

  • Josh Knepshield

    The steelers will turn this around. I say 8-8 to 9-7 is not impossible.

  • Weiss Chad

    I dont really understand..Of course they are gonna go after ike and gay.If cortez is playin they will go after him also.Thats what qbs do ..They throw to their wrs covered by cbs.The fact is our secondary is the very least of this teams problems..

  • Guest

    Their OT are the worst in the NFL ! Another point I would like to make is This Guy Zoltan, may be the worst Punter in the NFL. WHAT was wrong with Keeping Butler, who looked god in the Pre-Season. He kicks them higher and further than this Pirate Mascot ! Bring Back Butler !

  • Rick Tilves

    These Steeler OT’s are the Worst in the NFL ! Another guy who is the Worst in the NFL, is their Punter, the Pirate Mascot, Zoltan ! He is Terrible. Why leave Butler go, who looked good in Pre-Season. Butler kicks them Higher and Further than this BUM ! BRING BACK BUTLER !

  • Reg Sayhitodabadguy Hunt

    I think you fail to realize my point there are certain cbs qbs avoid i.e revis(b4 the injury)seattles cb