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Steelers Versus Bears Winners And Losers – Week 3


The Pittsburgh Steelers lost 40-23-Sunday night to the Chicago Bears and below is my list of winners and losers from the game. Feel free to add your own in the comments below.

Winners:

Antonio Brown – Brown had nine catches for 196 yards and two touchdowns Sunday night and it included a one-handed circus-type catch late in the third quarter that pulled the Steelers within seven points of the Bears. The facemask penalty during his punt return is easy to get past being as they still wound up scoring on the drive. As far as his unnecessary roughness penalty late in the game following the final interception, I am sure he will receive a demerit from the league office for that, so I won’t dock him for it.

LaMarr Woodley – Woodley’s third quarter sack, his second of the season and 54th of his career, moved him into fifth place on the Steelers all-time sack list as he passed Greg Lloyd. The Steelers outside linebacker provided a few pressures on Bears quarterback Jay Cutler throughout the game and he has been one of few bright spots during the 0-3 start.

Jonathan Dwyer – It’s not the 39 yards on 12 carries or the 25 yard run through a gaping hole that got Dwyer on this list, it was his excellent blitz pickup on both touchdown passes to Brown that got him here. Dwyer showed up ready to play Sunday night and seems best suited to play on third downs once rookie Le’Veon Bell is ready to return.

Heath Miller – Three catches for 35 yards in his first game back from a serious knee injury suffered late last season is worthy of a gold star in my book. His snaps were limited by design but his play was anything but limited.

Troy Polamalu – Outside of one blown coverage, which may or may not have been on him, Polamalu played well. Not only did he record three tackles, he also blocked an extra point when it would have been easy to just go through the motions after the Bears final touchdown.

Losers:

Ben Roethlisberger – Pressures are going to happen and Roethlisberger has to do a better job of protecting the football. He lost two fumbles in the game and nearly a third. Being as he was responsible for four of the five turnovers in the game, his 400 plus yards passing and two touchdown passes really mean nothing. The Bears scored 24 points off of turnovers.

Ryan Clark – Clark continues to miss tackles at crucial times and he missed another one Sunday night on the 55-yard run by Bears running back Matt Forte. If memory serves me, it wasn’t his only missed tackle in the game.

William Gay – Instead of just tackling Forte on the long run, Gay went for the strip unsuccessfully. Had he just tackled the Bears running back, that drive might very well have ended in three points and not seven.

Mike Adams – Adams continues to struggle at left tackle and he found himself replaced by Kelvin Beachum for a while as a result. Adams not only likes to lunge, but overset in addition and he left the gate open several times.

Marcus Gilbert – See Mike Adams above.

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  • Berlusconi

    Good to see Polamalu on the winners list again. I really hope the Steelers start winning again soon. With his high cap number he may become too expensive if the Steelers are not contenders and have to go in rebuilding mode.
    Special Teams again were solid and provided a chance to get back into the game with the “roughing the punter” penalty.

  • Xclewsive

    Winner

    William Gay might have been at fault for letting Forte run a additional 20 yards, but that shouldn’t have been the case as Ryan Clark should have tackled him 20 yds before that. William Gay in my book is a winner because the Bears decided for some reason to throw towards Taylor. William Gay FF, had TFL and played good pass defense all night. Can’t really fault him for trying to make a play for his team.
    David Johnson showing he’s a viable target in the passing game. His ability to block and catch will play big moving forward.
    David DeCastro the offense line played spotty again. But DD played really well especially when pulling. It would of been nice to see more of that but the game got out of hand quick.
    Loser
    Cotchery two weeks in a row Big Bens targeted him on a route that resulted in a INT. Cotchery is the veteran WR has to recognize his hot route responsibilites.
    Jarvis Jones I know he’s a rookie and he splits time. But getting close isn’t why the Steelers spent a #17 pick on him. Got to be more because as a starter that’s required no matter if your a rookie or not.
    Felix Jones the fumble had terrible timing especially since the Steelers had momentum. Was headed for a pretty good game until that miscue happened…….NEXT!
    Redman is on the ropes. The Steelers bring him on for his ability to pass block and he can’t even do that well right now.

  • dgh57

    David Johnson looked good with 2 rec. out of 3 targets for 51 yds. both, I think, for 1st downs. Maybe bump him up the depth chart over Paulson who couldn’t block my sister.

  • Reg Sayhitodabadguy Hunt

    Dave Bryan can you do a break down on how many times opposing teams third down conversions have ike taylor been victimized in the last two seasons qnd william gay this season

  • Reg Sayhitodabadguy Hunt

    I think the special teams did great again going against hester but clark had me throwing the remote at the tv on one play reeviewed he. just stood there waiting for forte to run him over lucky they stopped him with a gang tackle

  • Kenneth Wilt

    I think they need to try Beachum at LT and Adams at RT, just to see if they can find some success for someone. With where we currently will be drafting, a starting LT should be found in this draft.

  • JPDQ

    Well, well, well… Jonathan Dwyer actually making an appearance on Steelers Depot in a positive way? (Ok, quasi-positive, thanks to that backhanded compliment. Not sure you would’ve felt the needed to note it was a “gaping” hole if Redman or Jones were collecting those yards.) But I digress. Yes, excellent job picking up the blitz by Dwyer and making some nifty little gains out of nothing. Not bad for a guy who’s vision was so unbelievably bad he couldn’t even stay on the roster, huh?

    Allow to me to bang my drum a little bit longer, if you don’t mind. As I’ve said repeatedly, Ben’s best days are behind him. He can’t put the team on his shoulders and win. The reality of that means very bad things for this team.

    Great to see William Gay chasing down a receiver and trying to use his left hand to presumably strip the ball from a receiver carrying it on his right side. Ya know, instead of just TACKLING the guy. Note to Gay: you’re not Tyrann Mathieu. And thanks for the illegal contact call that kept one of Chicago’s fourth quarter scoring drives alive.

    I think I saw a stat yesterday that said the New England Patriots have gone 23 games in a row now with a takeaway.

    I don’t think I need to say anything else.

  • steeltown

    I think they should as well

  • steeltown

    Winners: A.Brown, Cotchery, Miller, Velasco, DeCastro, Dwyer, Felix, Suisham, Gay, Jarvis Jones, Polamalu, Timmons, Ike Taylor and Keisel
    Yes, Felix Jones before the hard hit and fumble he was well over 4yds a carry and at one point was over 5yds per carry and he also had 2 really nice kick returns and caught both passes thrown his way. I think once Bell returns, Felix should be the backup with Dwyer as the 3rd down blitz pickup guy.. the rest are self explanatory
    Losers: Todd Haley, Gilbert, Adams, Sanders

  • 07mac11

    Anybody considering the depth of Ben’s drop as a reason the tackles are struggling? He seems to be about 10 yards deep on shotgun drops and keeps his feet relatively still, like a statue. D-End’s and LB’s can rush wide to get depth which forces the tackles to have to take wide steps to protect, making them susceptible to inside moves. I really believe a lof of the pressure right now is due to Ben’s drop and seeming lack of pocket presence.

  • Bell Cow

    I think Velasco should be on the winners list. Right now, he looks like our only dependable offensive linemen.

  • Bell Cow

    I’m not a Todd Haley fan, but I think he actually called a decent game. Our offense just didn’t execute.

  • Garrett Hunt

    Absolutely… Don’t forget about miller and woodly though!

  • JPDQ

    Again Tomlin tries his “go stand in the corner and think about what you’ve done” coaching technique. Jones is looking like a capable back (for our avg stable of RBs) but none of these guys is ever gonna produce if you yank them after one fumble. Why not yank Sanders for missing deep balls every single game? Hell, can’t Wheaton do that?

    I have to laugh at our O-line. Tomlin knows he’s stuck with Adams and Gilbert, with only Beachum as a viable backup. Although, we practically won the lottery getting Velasco. Extremely fortunate grab there. But every Steelers fan on the face of planet Earth knew that our O-line would have injuries and that we needed substantial, legitimate back ups, so what do we do? Go out and get Guy Whimper and Cody Wallace. And now our answer is just to keep switching Gilbert and Adams back and forth, R to L, L to R.

    This is the type of oversight and personnel mismanagement that should have heads rolling. Whoever’s responsible.

  • Josh

    I’m putting Will Johnson on the Winners list, if only to try to draw attention to him so someone might let him play a full game. If you project the (one?) play he was involved with over four quarters, it’s L.Tomlinson all over again.

  • T R

    but they have not turned the ball over 9 times in 3 games either.. and Brady does have a lil time to throw the ball, his receiver just dont catch it.. but they are 3-0 and we are not. so your point is?

  • Reg Sayhitodabadguy Hunt

    There was a worilds sighting

  • T R

    doesnt help that every ball that ben thru to him was 3 or 4 steps ahead or behind him… so not all sanders fault.

  • NW86

    Agree with this whole list, except for W. Gay. He might have made a bad decision to go for the strip, but then again Steelers fans are always complaining about the lack of turnovers right? Also, he wasn’t responsible for the long run, Forte had already gone 30+ yards because of Clark’s whiff (and yes, I do believe Clark had a couple other missed tackles in the game).
    I’m not saying it wasn’t a mistake by Gay on that play, but I just don’t think that one play is enough to put him on the losers list when he played a good game otherwise.

  • Mike.H

    Ryan Clark missed an identical tackle the previous game.

    Someone once said, once you’ve lost it, you’ve lost it due to age and injury. I hope it’s an anomaly. Time will tell.

  • NW86

    Agreed. He is NOT off to a good start to year, but it’s hard to understand why when he seems healthy. Clark his earned a little longer leash because he has played well the past couple years. Hopefully he gets it turned around soon. At the very least though, I’m glad they didn’t extend him prior to the season.

  • Mike.H

    Regarding Mike Adams, how does an athletic 6’7” guy with massive wing spans have such poor body control and such poor blocking techniques??!! I have no clue…

    As Seinfeld once said with a high voice, we might need a priest to get rid of this jinx someone place on this team.

  • Mike.H

    … and since his rookie year, Gilbert at times has deteriorated like a rotten peach. We just might need a priest. Does anyone know one?

  • Mike.H

    Bruce Campbell ex-Raiders clocked in at 4.9 40’s time. How bout bringing Bruce in for a try out on passing downs?

  • ATL96STEELER

    I agree with the winners and losers posted…goes w/o saying you’re not going to beat anyone with 5 turnovers…9 total for the year is pretty alarming.

  • Eric

    plus Kiesel and Taylor

  • Douglas Andrews

    Paulson also had a drop last night. If he can’t catch the football what good is he. When he comes in the game i’m sure it tips our hand that a pass is coming because your right he can’t block to save his own life.

  • Douglas Andrews

    That was a big missed tackle.

  • psteelers

    It’s all qb play.folks complain and complain we don’t have talent at the skill spots. I’ll take out skill guys over the Patriots any day if the weeks. All they do us win with a qb smart enough to throw the ball away when pressured and not turn it over. I’ve said before and say it again why is the offensive coordinator always the problem on the teams where Ben is the qb. We’ve been through 3 guys. At some points we have to realize this guy is to undisciplined at the position for a coach to call a realistic game plan. He’s only good for about 30 minutes of football per game. Go dig up Bill Walsh and it still wouldn’t help. He had too much success playing the wrong way with a defenses that bailed him out time and time again. Now although they aren’t getting turnovers the defenses is still doing their job well enough to win games. I never hear the packers, saints, pats, Broncos complain about the need for the defense to get turnovers. Those guys get it done. Even if they lose games the offense usually does their job and score points.

  • Douglas Andrews

    Agree with you on J Dwyer glad to see him get some playing time after he led the Steelers in rushing in the preseason. Now the Steelers are stuck with Redman’s contract and he should ride the pine the rest of the year as he adds no value to the running game. As for the TO’s I do believe they are overrated. They’re good to have but i’d rather the Steelers get more sacks. Can’t always count on the TO’s

  • Douglas Andrews

    Agree…the line isn’t that good but Ben wants to hold the ball on EVERY passing play for 5,6,7 sec’s. I don’t know if anyone has an O line capable of blocking that long. Good point about the O Coordinator. Last year when Haley was able to get Ben to get rid of the ball quicker he was going to have a career year before he got hurt. Remember Ben called the offense “Dink and dunk”. Now he’s back to holding the ball and we see the results. I like the Offense i think it works but for the last two games the QB has Ben to quote Tomlin “Below the Line”.

  • Douglas Andrews

    Agree Haley is fine it’s our QB play the last two games and the receivers outside of Brown have to make plays.

  • Douglas Andrews

    I’ll take a different spin on the O line…why not tell the QB to get the ball out of his hands in less than 5 secs…worked last year for a 6-3 record before Ben got hurt? in a nutshell why make the Offensive line that’s struggling with pass protection try and block for Ben 5,6,7 sec’s. Ben’s gotta be smarter and get rid of the ball imo. He’ll have chances to make plays but gotta keep the D off balance like Culter did last night get rid of it quick.

  • Fivesevenzero Sports-Radio

    Something needs to be done about these OTs! Who would of ever thought we would want Max Starks back!.. I’m reading all your comments and everyone can see problems, why can’t the coaching staff address these. whoever the OL coach is right now needs to be considered on the chopping block. It will be interesting to see who continues to play hard as this season goes on

  • Douglas Andrews

    Decastro was solid last night also.

  • Douglas Andrews

    Sanders seems more like a #3 WR. Would be nice to see Wheaton step up on the outside so Sanders could work the slot where I think he’s more comfortable. Good thing we didn’t ante up the big money for a Sanders contract. On the flip slide Brown is earning his keep as the #1 WR. It would be nice if he would hand the ball back to ref after a big play and not walk 20yrds down the field when were losing by 3 td’s but with that performance last night you can live with that.

  • walter mason

    I agree Gay played well. Cotch was responsible for the interception. He never tried to knock it down. Maybe he didnt even see the ball. Im not sure but I think he could have caught it, if he saw it.

  • walter mason

    You cant have our QB throwing the ball away every other play. Hes being pummelled.

  • walter mason

    It looks to me that Ben is running for his life, not holding the ball. Big difference.

  • Derek Duncan

    not much you can do when the real reason why Steelers lost was Ben’s TO’s.

  • Luke Shabro

    I had hope for Paulson. I used to trash DJ all the time but he’s been decent this year

  • Luke Shabro

    Ike is on an island with some very talented receivers. He’s still one of the best

  • dgh57

    My opinion of Paulson went south in a hurry with that fumble then no effort to recover it. If someone shows they can catch Paulson days are numbered.

  • Fivesevenzero Sports-Radio

    True, but it’s hard to play the position when everytime you drop to pass you have to panic because your afraid your about to get smashed

  • Leon Mcnair

    haley sucks what game you watching thats all ben

  • Fivesevenzero Sports-Radio

    Agreed! I don’t think ther e should be a “winners” section when we lose maybe change it to “played well” and “losers”… Winners shouldn’t be used until we can get a win haha

  • Leon Mcnair

    they should have kept max starks

  • srdan

    good point. Our interior olineman are good at holding push. I don’t understand why he drops at least 7. This does make our tackles more susceptible to counter moves, but give it a try.

  • srdan

    I think I may have missed Adams having a bad night. I thought he played ok vs maybe the best in the game. They left him on an island vs Peppers a lot. For some reason I think he will come around. For Gilbert on the other hand I don’t have such hopes.

    Velasco is very good. He is going to be our center for years to come. Pouncey is a better guard anyway.

    Our entire defense looked good. Those are tough matchups.

    One thing that has been overlooked by this article is Vince Williams coming into his own. Maybe not ready for the “winners” list, but the kid is good. And he is showing some leadership. I call jawing leadership FYI. We need a little Jpeezy out there. Good for Vince!

  • Leon Mcnair

    first thing is to do is put beachum at LT and adams at RT and let gilbert be backup, next thing to do is fire haley dumb ass let ben call his own plays just like manning and brady does , stop trying to run the damm ball all of your rb suck you should have kept cris rainey , you wonn 2 Sb when ben did his own thing they need to build the offense around ben. they need to sit worilds and let jones start at ROLB when they blitz pit worilds at LOLB and put woodley in the middle and blitz just like they did when they has chad brown, lloyd, green and kirkland .tell gay stop giving 10 yard cushing and tell clark stop missing tackles

  • Jay Jaber

    yeah but they invested so much in our line over the past 4 years 2 first rounders and two 2nd rounders i dont think they should look for one in the first maybe in the later rounds like 3rd. we need a wr they are not gonna be able to bring back sanders and if they did its still not enough we need a big wr over 6 ft tall like a mike evans!!!! i hope

  • Leon Mcnair

    they have moye 6″5

  • Leon Mcnair

    next yeae Oline Beachum pouncey velasco decastro and adams

  • dgh57

    I also had hoped Paulson would turn out to be a decent TE because we need a 2nd pass catching TE to compliment Heath Miller.

  • Reg Sayhitodabadguy Hunt

    Ike gives up way too many third down conversions gay does too and the reason why he don’t get alot of picks is because he don’t turn his head playing corner you have to watch the qb as well as he wr and trust me he only reason he looks the part of a 1cb is because of the defensive pressure on the qb

  • Jay Jaber

    i agree with u except for a couple. i didnt think timmons is a winner he missed a couple tackles on the goal line where bush ran over him. and i really thought hayley did call a good game and i know ben had 4 TO if anything i will put him on the winners side i loved his effort making something out of nothing and i agree with in the chris collinsworth remark i hate that guy too

  • srdan

    One more. Hayward is starting to look like a first round pick. Hard to put a 34 DE on a winners list, but he consistently gets push.

    I am finally excited about the young core on our team. 4 rookies getting serious playing time (Bell has a red carpet) out of one draft is promising.

  • steeltown

    Agreed.. the OL is showing some improvement and I like that they are using DJ more and basically only used Paulson on special teams. I’d use Beachum at OT more moving forward and consider moving Adams to RT

  • steeltown

    True

  • Jay Jaber

    i dont think so

  • steeltown

    I have never cared about him show boating till last night, not only are we losing the game but we are on the verge of going 0-3 on the season if we lose the game.. stop being a knucklehead and get back to the line of scrimmage

  • steeltown

    He did get handled on a block or two, but over all Timmons made a ton of plays out there, including two pass defenses

  • Jay Jaber

    does everybody agree with me that antonio brown is way better WR than one trick pony mike wallace we just need someone to compliment antonio someone that can go up and and snatch the ball out of the air like mike evans in this years draft

  • steeltown

    Im not too sure, there were too many downs were we went pass-run-pass and it was still quite predictable, but overall much improved game by the Offense… in then end the turnovers were killers

  • steeltown

    I really think they need to consider starting Beachum and playing Adams ar RT, subsequently making Gilbert the backup swing tackle
    Either way its pretty evident that we’ll be drafting OT next year

  • steeltown

    He’s till making some mistakes, which is understandable but I LOVE V.Williams aggression out there, he hits HARD and he shows emotion

  • Reg Sayhitodabadguy Hunt

    Im going to put mike tomlin in the losers list for unleashing hell problem is he unleashed it on us now it feels like we’re being punished and tortured the devil is a tricky bastard

  • Reg Sayhitodabadguy Hunt

    I think wheaton but for some odd reson he’s not on the field much

  • Thomas Rancy

    on the + side they look like they might actually have figured out how to play football…on the down side it took gettin their ass kicked for 180 minutes to do it.

  • T R

    Moye still small but tall they need a brandon marshall, calvin johnson, andre johnson big..

  • T R

    So tru.. Ben needs to just stop trying to make the big play.. throw it away or ben over like manning and take the sack… protect ya self and the balll and soon enough a play will come. stop trying to bail out the OL and stay in pocket and throw it away or take sack.

  • T R

    he us running for his life only because defense knows he going to hold on to the ball. if he do quick short routes, they defense going get tired of trying to rush him and back off

  • Steeler Wheeler

    I could be the president of the Willie Gay haters club…but, he was awesome last night. Good coverage, FF, great run support, even up-ended Forte on his TD. If only Vince Williams could tackle like Willie Gay…

  • T R

    Last 2 games? how bout the last 6 cames dating back to charger’s game december 9. we lost to dallas and bengals last year on Ben’s last minute interceptions to lose to play offs.

  • Steeler Wheeler

    Loser: Paulson. There are millions of big guys that can run down a seem and catch a pass….Paulson blocks like most of the others not in the NFL. Time to cut him.

  • T R

    Well said

  • Steeler Wheeler

    Great camera view, it was like third and ten and Clark just waited in the secondary for someone to make the tackle in front of him after the first down. This team needs Shark in at safety because then he can come up in run support…he’s playing nickel corner like a rookie nickel corner. He could be a great safety.

  • cencalsteeler

    What the hell is going on with Ryan Clark this year? His tackling is horrendous and he doesn’t even come close to the level of play he showed last year.

  • T R

    Well you gotta try to excite the crowd and ignite you team.. cause sure they crowd was ready to go home.. He doesnt go over board or get penalty for it so its fine to me.. if they makes he have game like last night. Keep it up.. just hope someone else can get taht excited too.. I rather see him doing that. then to see the folks on the sideline laughing and joking and you down 2 or 3 scores.

  • T R

    Timmons didnt miss the tackle he made it but it was up to someone else to put him down.. he cant expect to make that type of stop alone… he held him long enough for … i forgot who it was that was suppose to FINISH HIM..

  • Leon Mcnair

    haley is fine you must be blind as hell he sucks and always sucked look at his track record

  • T R

    EXCEPT HIM TRYING STRIP FORTE INSTEAD OF MAKE THE DAMN TACKLE

  • Leon Mcnair

    no he is not with mike wallace last week on those deep throws we score and if you watched miami wallace is not a one trick poney he is killing shit brown had one good game stop it

  • Steeler Wheeler

    Because the QB whined and complained about it and brought the offense to a screeching halt. Haley and Ben can’t co-exist…both are capable, one has to go, and soon.

    I’d pick BB to go…just hope for a contender to have a QB injury. I’ll probably get slammed on this, but Ben eats far too much cap space and the Steelers have shown time and time again that the QB need only manage the game if you play great D and run the football. OK, OK, if you can’t run the football you are not going to win…well, we’re not going to win not running the football with a $20M QB, I’d rather pay $3M and $17M for a tackle or two.

    Riddle me this, has BB ever been successful when the Steelers haven’t run the ball well and played great D?

  • steeltown

    Just still hasn’t proven to be a #2.. not yet, he doesn’t seem to get enough consistent separation and he doesn’t seem to have the ball skills to make up for it… it’s a long season, hopefully he’ll prove me wrong

  • Douglas Andrews

    Last nights game Ben 3 fumbles and 2 int’s = 23 points for the Bears. 5 turnovers for Big Ben….that’s not Haley Ben has to do a better job protecting the football.

  • Leon Mcnair

    play calling are you blind? look i said look at haleys track record everyteam he been on they went down hill wake up let ben be ben thats what got them 2 rings they should have never got rid of arians even bettis said thast

  • Douglas Andrews

    Track record says he led the Cardinals to #1 passing offense and what should have been a SB win over the Steelers had it not been for J Harrison. Also a #1 rushing offense at KC. He has a decent track record. Our Qb needs to play better and protect the football period.

  • Douglas Andrews

    Your objective and most people keep wanting to fire Haley and overlook the QB play especially the TO’s

  • JohnnyV1

    I saw some positive progress from week 1 to week 3. Special teams isn’t a complete disaster like it was during the preseason, actually they played pretty well. The defense got some pressure and played pretty well, despite many short fields. The offense was pretty productive, moving up from being inept the previous two weeks. The turnover differential has to change for wins to come. Nice to see Heath Miller back.

    I’m not impressed with Emanuel Sanders. Perhaps he should move to the slot and put Wheaton on the outside, or Moye, anyone. Marcel Gilbert needs to sit on the bench, or ride the stationary bike, either way, he should not be on the field unless its the Jumbo package. We should have a better #4 CB and that should be an offseason priority, after OT.

  • Douglas Andrews

    Adams to RT should be imminent. The LT tackle experiment just isnt working.

  • Sdale

    After watching Beachum when he came in last night, I agree 100%. Mike Adams was very good at right tackle last year (at least run blocking) before he got hurt. I’m sure Beachum will have his struggles, but it’s the best scenario right now.

  • Douglas Andrews

    Line play has been pretty close to awful. i’d just like to see more 3 step drops some screen passes to slow down the defense and give Ben some rhythm just like Culter had on the opening drive. Ben’s play yesterday worked against a struggling line.

  • Douglas Andrews

    2007 Arizona Cardinals are in the top half of almost every offensive category with Haley as Offensive Coordinator. 2008 they lead the league in passing offense and make a SB appearance. 2nd year at KC he led them to a 10-6 record. Look is he the best OC no but he’s done a decent job where he’s been.

  • Jeff

    I never thought I’d say this, but Ryan Clark looks really really bad out there.

  • Douglas Andrews

    Not to mention the drop last night. IF he’s not going to catch the ball lets get a look at the other guys and let him go! Heath is back and looks good

  • Jeff

    Defensive pressure on the QB? There has been a significant drop off in the last 2 years in that area, and the steelers pass defense has still been number 1 in the league. With Ike being the number 1 corner, I’m not overlooking how hard that is to do, even if he doesn’t get the interceptions. He’s always on the opposition’s number 1 receiver, and most of the time does a good job.

  • Jeff

    Too bad they don’t grow on trees :/

  • Xclewsive

    Probably not the smartest thing Bill Gay has ever done, but at that time the game was getting out of hand. Someone needed to try a make a play. I’d rather Gay go for a ride trying to rake the ball out though. But all in all Bill Gay is off to a good start playing the outside.

  • John

    We have the same problems as the Giants and 49ers right now. The offensive line cannot block anyone. No one fears the run game. Our two biggest playmakers at RB (Bell and SH) basically have not played. MIler and Spaeth were hurt. We took a chance on young guys on the O-LIne which does not look smart. We decided at the same time to go with a new blocking scheme that we obviously have not yet learned. The defense cannot stop anyone when we need them to. We have new guys out of position that make mistakes. We cannot stop the run consistently. We cannot pressure the QB consistently. And Ben is remarkably inaccurate on short passes — you cannot miss guys on three yard tosses likes he does.
    In time, various parts of this will get fixed but probably not in time for us to do much this year. We need more offensive threats and defensive playmakers.

  • Jay Jaber

    So your telling me Wallace has better hands than Antonio your crazy

  • ATL96STEELER

    I’m more surprised or concerned about Gilbert’s play…Adams has started about 8 games maybe…I saw they had Beachum in there at both T spots at times…if they weren’t hurt…I think it’s a bit of panic…the OL is not why they lost yesterday.

    After Jones fumbled…they went down by 3 possessions putting an already shaky OL in predictable pass protection for really the rest of the game. They could pretty much tee off on Ben.

  • Jay Jaber

    And idk what your talking about he’s not killing anything he has like 130 yards receiving in three games and brown on the other hand has over 300 yards yeah he’s not killing anything idle what your watching

  • RedCarpetDefense

    I put Woodley and Ziggy in the loser’s list. They lined up against two..TWO… rookies in the Bears right guard and tackle. This should’ve been a BREAKOUT game for both of them…one sack…wow.

  • Leon Mcnair

    yes where you been wallace first three years in the league look at his avg and look at browns thats all i have to say

  • Leon Mcnair

    you smoke too much weed arizona that was whiz offense, and the chiefs yeah right all they did was run didnt put up points, what happened in dallas and all the rest why did he get fired from the chiefs one good year clueless

  • Leon Mcnair

    brown had one good game and that was yesterday , wallace has been putting up good numbers since his rookie season open your eyes

  • Kenneth Wilt

    If you draft in the top 5…and right now we are right there….you MUST take an impact player, and by that I mean someone who you can build your franchise around. That would mean:

    QB – Don’t rule this out. At the moment Ben is looking more like Jake Delhomme than Ben. He couldn’t take the hits any more and could no longer make a decision to save his life. Ben needs to get himself turned around.

    RB – Adrian Robinson like talent. You aren’t looking for “just another runner” you are looking for an IMPACT runner.

    LT – He is the key to your line. You can get the other spots at other times in the draft, but LT in the top 5 are usually 10-12 year starters in this league.

    DT or DE – Again, getting a guy like Jadaveon Clowney isn’t something you pass on.

    I agree that we need a WR, in fact if we draft say 9-11, I would like to target Mike Evans out of Texas A&M, but in order to do that, you MUST know that Ben has time to throw the ball. Of course the other question right now is CAN Ben make good decisions. He hasn’t been the same since the injury last year.

  • Leon Mcnair

    bottom line is rather you guys agree or not haley needs to go, play calling sucks even ben makes faces when the play come in, when they had arians ben moved the ball and they trying to run with those supermarket Rb they got jone couldnt even make it in dallas, redman is garbage dwyer stinks too they should have kept rainey, and they dependind on a hurt rookie to help them wo only play 4 plays and got hurt but you pass up on eddie lacey, tomlin is clueless too he cant draft ,he dont make adjustments , he same the same Bull everyweek and they get these bum coaches to help them this o-line coach from buffalo is terrible when grimm was o-line coach they blocked. i see both tackles backing up as soon as the ball is hiked in stead of attacking and the rooneys are liviving in the stone age throw first run second make them back up instead of trying to run first change some things up. Brady never had a good Rb and look at him and his wr was average fire haley hire charie batch and let ben call his own plays just like the other great Qb’s out there

  • Leon Mcnair

    you just like the rooneys living in the stone age its a pass first league and haley sucks he hasnt done anything thats why he always gets fired mighty funny when ben calls his own plays they move the ball scrap the run throw first , brady never had a Rb and he got 3 SB wins ben have ben making plays for years and they got 2 rings because of that now you bring in this bumm haley and they trying to run the ball with supermarket Rb and a rookie that played 4 plays and got hurt in which they should have got lacey

  • Leon Mcnair

    a lot of you guys need to stop liviing in a stone age its a pass happy leauge and you have the qb to do it wr are not great but ok. mighty funny when ben calls his own plays they move the ball they should have kept arians haley sucks and tomlin is like a deer in headlights cluelesss

  • Bill Molinaro

    It’s amazing to me that so many people blame Todd Haley for the Steelers’
    offensive woes. In truth these chronic complainers do not know what play was
    called and whether or not it was changed at the line of scrimmage. Did Haley
    call for the Big Ben or F. Jones fumbles? Haley does not play left or right
    tackle and that is where 90% of the offensive problems reside. Ben fumbled
    because he’s under duress on nearly every play and he’s under duress
    immediately after the snap and most of the time from multiple directions. The
    bloggers want him to run around more like he used to but the defenses have
    learned how to really limit that. And the ownership does not want him doing
    that. And the best one is that Haley does not allow Ben to audible. Open your
    eyes, he audibles on many plays. You want the Steelers to be who they use to
    be; but the weapons and most assuredly the offensive line, are no longer there.
    In truth, all you Haley haters really don’t know what Haley’s offense would
    look like with a bona fide OL. One last point: Was his play calling OK when
    there were no fumbles and instantaneous pressures and the Steelers had nearly
    500 yards of offense?

  • walter mason

    Ben can escape a single pass rusher but I think the problem is that he is being squeezed from both sides and sometimes straight on too. He just cant escape multiple pass rushers. He has no where to go. I

  • Christopher Wilkes

    I agree. Gay had too many positives just to list him as a loser because of one decision. He tried to strip the ball, and on a team that is turnover impotent is that really all that bad of a decision for him to make?

  • Mike Carroll

    Sanders belongs on the loser’s list. He turned his back (in disgust) on the Felix Jone’s fumble play without fully watching the play come to an end. Because of that he did not see the fumble which he might easily have recovered if he was paying attention. He pulled the same crap last year when he turned his back and started walking off the field as Ed Reed was returning an interception out of the end zone. I’ve had enough of Sanders. I hope and pray the coaches are smart enough to catch this on film and rip Sanders for his lack of focus and effort.

  • Mike Carroll

    Isaac Redman belongs on the loser’s list for his poor pass blocking. He was the one who was responsible for letting Briggs rush right up the middle forcing the fumble Peppers returned to end the game. Redman’s effort was putrid on the play as he could not even manage to contain either of Brigg’s arms. Watch the replay: Briggs gets easily by him and brings his left arm up to swipe at Ben. Ben sees that appropriately tucks the ball. But, even then Redman lets Briggs stick out his right arm which he used to hit the tucked ball. That’s either a great play by Briggs or a horrible block by Redman (or both), but I think that’s a tough one to put on Ben.

  • Mike Carroll

    Agree. And Willie had at least one tackle for a 3 yard loss late in the game.

  • Mike Carroll

    Timmons? For consistently average play this season? He is paid as a top linebacker in the league, but has yet to make a noticeable play this year.

  • Leon Mcnair

    annd you still clueless he sucks never won shit and never will , so why they fire him in dallas and arizona and KC answer that

  • Leon Mcnair

    keep believing haley is good and watch them falll like a drunk person

  • Mike Carroll

    I agree. I actually like the direction the offense is headed, if not the results so far.

  • Mike Carroll

    Lotta nice points. I would add that Sanders belongs on the losers list for turning his back after he thought Jones was tackled. Watch the replay: Sanders gives up on the play before it’s over. Otherwise, he has a great opportunity to make the fumble recovery.

  • psteelers

    Watching Peyton Manning makes you realize just how bad Ben is. He’s playing with a practice squad left tackle and no one would know it. Before he takes the last step in his drop he knows where the ball should go. Just think if he had the pleasure of playing with a defense that only gives up 17 points per game for his entire career.

  • Douglas Andrews

    Thanks Bill…I also see it the way you do as I have no issue with the Coordinator we just haven’t executed very well. I pointed that out on here and got killed for it guess i forgot that this site is slowly becoming the FIRE HALEY BLOG as every article that’s posted somehow gets a slew of comments to FIRE HALEY. Seems like to me the same people who want Haley fired are the same ones that are now saying they miss B Arians whom nobody liked when he was here either. Those same folks forgot that we got to a SB with that same OC. It would be interesting if the Steelers get this thing turned around if these same folks would still call for Haley’s firing. My gut says we could win the SB and people would still be clamoring to FIRE HALEY.

  • charles

    The Steelers are doing a lot of arm tackling. Is it the fines and penalties the last two years? Haven’t seen a big hit from Timmons or Clark.

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