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Mike Tomlin Says Jarvis Jones Is Not Doing Enough Detailed Work Right Now


The latest depth chart released Tuesday by the Pittsburgh Steelers revealed that Jason Worilds had overtaken rookie Jarvis Jones as the starting right outside linebacker. Head coach Mike Tomlin talked about the demotion of the Steelers first-round draft pick during his weekly press conference.

“He’s just not doing enough detailed work right now and really, Jason Worilds is, and that’s just the reality of it,” said Tomlin. “Part of playing really good defense and really good football, period, is having detail with your work and there’s more detail in Worilds’ work right now than there is Jarvis’. Jarvis needs to continue to work. I think he’s open to that and we’re open to giving him an opportunity to do so.”

While Worilds hasn’t set the world on fire so far this season, Jones really hasn’t played well at all. Through the first seven games of the season, the Steelers have officially credited Worilds with 12 total tackles, one sack and eight quarterback pressures. As for Jones, the Steelers have him down for 15 total tackles on defense and just three pressures of the opposing quarterback to go along with zero sacks.

Jones’ play Sunday against the Oakland Raiders was probably the final straw as he allowed quarterback Terrelle Pryor to break containment a few times in the 11 total snaps that he played.

Tomlin is obviously trying to send a message to Jones right now and he wants him to win back the starting job from Worilds.

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  • Shea Fahr

    In JJ’s defense, he is showing flashes of what he can become. In the face of the Raiders and the Jets QB’s forcing ints. Still, he has a lot to learn being a Rookie.

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    Good I think he has a bright future but it is not just about putting pressure on the quarterback but blowing up plays and getting sacks. Maybe he is relying too much on natural ability.

  • Ia Ia

    Tomlin is just that. He talks, and makes those thing to let it move away from him. Point is … HE IS A DEFENSIVE MINDED HEAD COACH. So I say Fire Him together with LeBeau. The game has moved away from them…

  • Dutchess Hershberger

    hes a middle linebacker ive said this from day 1 the quicker the steelers realixe this the better he will be and they will be having said this they should have taken eifert number 1

  • Ike Evans

    Smh….this friggin guy and these personnel moves….Jason worlids is less of a playmaker MAYBE more solid…but isn’t that the problem with our defense though? A lot of solid guys but not enough playmakers….not enough development…seems like a trend to me…someone needs to pay attention to Tomlin’s details because they’re lacking

  • Lucus Rodriguez

    It has been the offense that has played below the line this year.

  • mlc43

    What a whiny fan base we are. The team has a couple of rough years and the mobs start screaming to fire everyone. We were due for a down year. We rode this group of guys a long time…probably a little too long. Now we are in the middle of our down couple/few years. We’ll be back in it before too long.

  • Ia Ia

    You are right. One good reason to hire an Offensive minded Head Coach next year. Dumblin cannot help in that area

  • Fritz Baughman

    This is where you miss the point. The defensive let down has been in progress for a while now. We haven’t run the ball well since Bush was in office. We’ve had a shitty offensive line going back to 2006. Our drafts have been piss poor, with only a select few being valuable, thus far (which is the table of contents of why we suck). We hired an O-coordinator that nobody likes. Our team looks like complete shit in every conceivable phase of football. Yea, I think people have a right to complain. Expecting the masses to be happy and content is rather absurd, don’t you think?

  • dollardoughtnut

    how does this sound to you—head coach todd haley — not so much for me either

  • Matt Manzo

    I agree. Not enough player development and quality draft picks for this coaching staff.

  • Ia Ia

    Personally I would love to see that Texas Tech 34 year old coach with us. I would love it

  • moderatelysane

    I could not agree with you more. Well stated. We’re on Jarvis’ ass after every play trying to decide whether he’s worthy or not and whether he should kick to ILB after 6 NFL games, as if all of us commenters have a better assessment of NFL talent through our all-22 than people who’ve lived and breathed this for decades. Give the kid time like we gave Harrision, Gildon, Porter… time.

  • greeny

    He looks lost. You blasted me a couple of weeks ago about this guy. Over hyped with spinal stenosis to boot. Timmons and Woodley looked much better as rookies. The Troy comparison was wrong. I agree I was strong but the guy over pursues and he cannot tackle period.

  • greeny

    We had an offensive minded OC but we ran him out of town. I know that sounds silly but Haley doesn’t believe in scoring.

  • NW86

    Wow. And yet the team went 8-8 last year and has had a chance to win every game this year. Good thing you’re not a fan of a team like the Jaguars or Bucs…

  • NW86

    Agreed. Jones and Williams are the first LB’s to even start in their rookie season in the past several years in Pgh, and the fanbase expects them to be pro-bowlers already…

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    It is called being spoiled, how do you think Jacksonville would feel about being 2-5?

    The Steelers could go 15-1 and people would be pissed about the one loss.

  • Alan Felicia

    So you want to clean house, then hire a young college coach to do what exactly? Head Coach, OC, QB coach?
    If not Head Coach, who would you hire to replace Tomlin?

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    You don’t have to be liked as a coach, you just need to be successful. Steelers fans do moan and groan. Have your dad tell you about the 40’s-60’s. You would be jealous of the Jaguars.

  • Ia Ia

    Alan I Kingsbury as Head Coach. DC I think that Kubiak would be fine. The rest doens’t matter if you get this two first

  • Alan Felicia

    Or maybe, Colbert and scouting department have had problem drafting playmakers on Defense within the last 5 drafts excluding this past April.

  • Bob Graff

    I have also been saying the same for a long time. 5.0 in the 40 doesn’t work in the NFL it’s just too slow. You can’t make the play if you can’t get there. This is going to be another first round bust, but he may in time prove to be a above average MLB.

  • Bob Graff

    I AGREE VERY WELL SAID

  • Bob Graff

    We ain’t going anywhere fast until this front office can look in the mirror and say we screwed up . As long as we continue with the way we have drafted you can expect this to go on for quite some time. [we have no bullets in our gun and we are at the ok corral]

  • Bob Graff

    Everyone has a chance to win every game. This is a below average football team with very few quality young players.

  • Bob Loblaw

    We’ve had troubles getting into the end zone dating back to Arians. It isn’t a new problem.

  • Bob Graff

    All of the players you mentioned shined as soon as they were put in the lineup.

  • mlc43

    I haven’t missed the point. I’ve said we’ve had a rough few years. My opinion is that we probably tried to hold on to some of the old guard too long. We are week in a few areas and missed on some others in the draft. But we’ve also hit on some areas in the draft as well…WRs. Looks like DD will work out but needs more help. Pouncey, while overrated IMO is solid. Bell is going to be a great RB if we fix up the line. Everyone points to the mistakes but no one wants to look at what they’ve done correctly. Yes, we have been struggling. It’s gonna happen.

  • mlc43

    I do hope you are joking.

  • Bob Graff

    Not pro-bowlers but hardcore consistent we won’t let you down players. Jones came in billed as a missile coming off the edge, sack machine, fumble forcing ,game changer well so far he’s good for 1.5 tackles a game. He has been a disappointment so far it is what it is.

  • Fritz Baughman

    You sound like Mike Tomlin. “We had a chance to win, but we didn’t execute in any phase of the game whatsoever. That falls on me.”

    Got it.

  • Alan Felicia

    Since 2006, I would say since 2010 where they ranked 11th in NFL in total rushing (and 2007 before that when they were 3rd in NFL).
    To me, I find it amusing that a good number of Pitt fans want Tomlin fired yet over a decade ago there were only a few complained about Cowher who was 1-4 in AFC Championship Games and didn’t win until his 14th season in 2005.

  • Fritz Baughman

    That really isn’t the point. The point is, fans giving other fans grief because they happen to critique the blatantly poor play of their football team is absurd. They can bitch and gripe however they want. They can call it as they see it. Every message board has the same type of posters. There are the typical “Oh, you guys are so spoiled. Bunch of whiny babies. We suck miserably but I’m still thankful”, as if no other fan base has ever criticized the team. The last time I checked, the people on here are fans. Fans get happy, and fans get pissed. I’m really not sure how you would expect any fan base to react after a 2-5 record. The last time I checked, the Steelers have the most wins, most playoff wins, most division titles, highest winning percentage, and just about most in everything else in the NFL since 1970. So yea, if the team plays poorly, you can probably expect some backlash. And really, who gives a damn what Jacksonville thinks, does, has, etc.

  • Ia Ia

    Why ? Kingsbury is a very bright offensive mind. Kubiak is a very bright defensive mind and runs a 3 4 similar in some aspects to ours. I have no doubts that this would be a HUGE upgrade to a Dumblin/ Haley-LeBeau managment

  • Fritz Baughman

    Number of times Ben has been sacked:

    2004: 30
    2005: 23
    2006: 46
    2007: 47
    2008: 46
    2009: 50
    2010: 32
    2011: 40

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    No one is saying people don’t have the right to be a fan. But have perspective, change happens good teams go through down times. Firing the whole staff will solve nothing.

  • Ia Ia

    Greeny I agree with you. Haley seems to believe the Time of Possession BullSh.. Only problem is the rest of the league is all about scoring. You need 30 points to win now. Ben has accomplished the feat only 28 times in his entire career ( never once in the last two years…)

  • Virdin Barzey

    Funny people don’t want to hear this but Haley in AZ had no problem passing or scoring. Went to KC with no QB and had no problem running the ball (except for injury plagued season after) to score. Came home to the Burgh and now he’s a bum. Hmmmm.

    Let’s see, we (myself included) called Arians a bum, ran him out of town to Indy where he had no problem scoring and now in AZ they can score (except for Palmer turnovers).

    Maybe, just maybe, some of you may want to look elsewhere besides getting a new OC…….I’m just saying.

  • Bob Graff

    The thing is we aren’t Jacksonville we are the Steelers. But now that we are playing like them, hell yes we want change .The reason we have been good for so long is that is that poor play is unacceptable. Call it spoiled but i call it being a Steeler fan we expect the best and will not embrace poor play.

  • Ken

    We seem so content with starting slow… Remember the year we came out in a spread offense and routed the Patriots? We need to play to our strengths in the first half, not in desperation time!!! Lets get a lead then run the ball…

  • Tom

    I sure hope the kid is not Huey Richardson part II

  • Dan

    Perhaps the front office and coaches are making some arrangements this season to make it easy to resign players when their contracts are up. If everybody has piss-poor stats we can resign ‘em all!!!!

  • HopalongCassidy

    29 teams in the NFL have scored more points than the Steelers this season. Only 2 teams have scored fewer points. So, any criticism of the defense seems to be a little unwarranted at this point. Let’s look at the real problem….the offense totally sucks. If they were even in the middle of the pack scoring-wise, this team would probably be undefeated.

  • ND_Steel

    I agree, little young talent on this team. Bell is a decent three down back because he is such a good blocker (his best quality), but lacks top end speed or power. J Jones same, good but not explosive. DeCastro, good technique but can’t move anyone. Adams took huge steps backwards from last yr. Gilbert is sub standard in about every way due to inconsistency. Paulson should be watching Sunday football not playing. Hood and Heyward, serviceable DE nothing else. Only one I’m excited about is Shamarko, I liked moving Troy into ILB and getting him on the field in the Balt game vice Williams. Drafts have been awful.

  • r4kolb

    I think they have played below the line in ALL facets of the game.

  • r4kolb

    Bob I don’t think his problem is speed. I think it’s being over aggressive and losing contain too many times. Too many times he over runs the play even on special teams. Also, I think at this point he’s just getting over powered at this point. Needs to hit the weight room.

  • Kris Gusto Williams

    19 points won’t win you many ball games

  • NW86

    Wait, who is the whiny baby?

  • Luke Shabro

    I remember Woodley looking much better as a rookie too. It seemed crazy to even have Haggans starting ahead of Woodley but he was still learning to drop. To me Jarvis looks like a guy that will always be one step too slow to take down the QB. It’s still incredibly too early to even think of labeling the kid a bust but man you spend a top half first round pick on the guy and you expect some more immediate results. We could’ve had DeAndre Hopkins who might make a difference on offense. But hindsight is 20/20.

  • Luke Shabro

    You have no idea what you’re talking about. Kubiak is an offensive coach. Wade Phillips runs that defense genius. And it’s actually not a 3-4 like ours at all. And if you think Kingsbury is going to come in and do a bang up job with an NFL team you are also mental. Steve Spurrier, Chip Kelly and Nick Saban, arguably three of the best college coaches came into the NFL and stunk the joint up. Please do the world a favor and think before you speak. Everything you’ve said is completely wrong.

  • Bob Graff

    I see him getting beat around the corner all the time. You are right about the weight room he also gets caught up inside on stunts all the time. He just doesn’t make plays, LB’s in a 3-4 should be getting tackling opportunities. And as far as speed goes i really don’t think the forty means everything until the time starts getting slow and 5.0 is slow.

  • Ia Ia

    Luke Is true I didn’t do extensive research on Kubiak. I wanted to say Rex Ryan and I change last minute due to my hate for the guy. I knew that Wade Phillips runs the show but I thought, erronusly, that Kubiak could have been a behind the scene head coach in this case. For what regards your comment on college coach I do not agree. Kelly is doing a good job, you have to consider that his first two qbs went down, and the Others like Doug Marrone and Chudzinski and Harbaugh and Carroll are doing just fine. College game is about no huddle uptempo. It appears that since 2009, new rules in the NFL due to concussion, the game is evolving in that direction. For all the personal insults you are making toward me… I feel pity for you and I am sure that the moderators will take care of it accordingly. Take it easy. It is just a game and it is supposed to be fun

  • Bill Eltringham

    4 out of 5 starting linemen on this team would have trouble starting in the CFL. There is your main problem.

  • Fritz Baughman

    What’s wrong, did my rationale post not make sense?

  • Chad H

    Bingo, that’s exactly what I’ve been saying since preseason. IMO the risk on him out weighs the reward as a 1st rounder. Woodley was a beast as a rookie. Baxter reminded me of LWs rookie year. Hopkins would have been nice but C. Patterson in MN is looking really good with out a QB.

  • Luke Shabro

    I feel like Patterson or Hopkins would’ve been nice. Hopkins is a great possession receiver that brings a toughness that reminds me of Hines Ward. Patterson can’t run half a route tree BUT he does really well with quick outs and WR screens which is exactly what Haley likes to do.

  • NW86

    For a minute, I thought you were calling those of us that were supporting the team the whiny babies. I see now that it was inside the quotes. My misinterpretation, I apologize.
    I can see that we are not getting anywhere so this will be my last post on this thread. Dr. Doom said it best in his last response. I have no problem with fans getting frustrated and questioning a particular play, call, a personnel decision, etc. We all do that. But when you say you are a fan of a particular organization, then proceed to blast every single person in that organization and everything that they do, it really doesn’t sound like you are a fan to me.

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    Best post^

  • Alan Felicia

    Chudzinski hasn’t coached college since 2003. Can’t count Carroll and Harbaugh since both have NFL pedigree (Carroll was DC for many years and HC @ New England before Belicheck while Harbaugh was long time NFL QB who took unconventional way to get a HC in NFL). Too early to tell how Kelly and Marrone will do, we’ll see. Both need to sink or swim in a 2-3 year window. However, college coaches does not equate success in the NFL since Jimmy Johnson in early 90s. Nick Saban (Miami 05-06) and Steve Spurrier (Wash 02-03) couldn’t wait to get back to college. Disgraced coach Bobby Petrino left Atlanta after just 13 games in 2007 to take the Arkansas HC job. Lane Kiffin was fired in Oakland after 1 season in 2008.
    It doesn’t matter where game is evolving into. Bottom line, can college coaches handle or coach multi-million dollar players.

  • Ike Evans

    Didn’t have a problem drafting them before tomlin came and puts his 2 cents into every draft pick….he’s good when you have a veteran team and all you have to do is scheme and motivate…and keep structure but when it comes to scouting talent, developing young talent, nurturing young talent…dealing with a young/rebuilding team this is just not the guy…he doesn’t have the eye…he cant even pick good coordinators

  • Ia Ia

    Alan IT IS NOT LIKE DUMBLIN HAS COACHED BEN WELL. They still have the same issues with him. Starting point should be : Are you satisfied with our coaches ? I am not. Who can we hire ? The game now is about offense. Not defense. OFFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIP. Defense can help but it doesn’t win it anymore. Who could be valid Head Coaching names ? For me you have to go to College Offensive gurus. After that I do not have anything to say anymore. Basically you are throwing everybody I wrote off the College books. You will not convince me. I will not convince you. Let’s cheer for the Steelers. Even if, I will be rooting for a nice 2 – 14 and a lot of changes and you will be, probably, for a mediocre 8 – 8 no playoff season

  • Alan Felicia

    My point is, College coaches are not the way to go. Plus, if you really look at our team, the main problem is not coaching, its how many playmakers we have especially on defense. Colbert and his scouting team have had a difficult time replenshing defensive playmakers from the 2008 thru 2012 Draft. Every defensive players drafted were either mediocre or bust. They’ve yet to find a suitable replacement for Aaron Smith, James Harrison, or even Corner that somewhat has hands. The 2 Super Bowl wins (and 3rd SB appearance) the defense was a legitimate Top 2 Defense who were Top 3 in Sacks (and Pressure) and Turnovers.
    Now, I’ll give a little credit to Colbert for Jones and Williams IF they turn out to be solid players. Defensive linemans and cover corners are Colbert’s next priority.

  • Ia Ia

    I get your point. My point is the opposite. A good coach is a good coach. Not matter what. I agree that Colbert has sucked. I would love to get him fired. But even coaches have a role. LeBeau never played Rookies. With the new CBA you need to play rookies. Otherwise you will find yourself in cap hell. With this CBA you cannot resign guys. It means… You have to be very careful and resign only for reasonable price and positions you know are hard to fill. Tomlin does not develop talent like Cowher did. HIs play calling is pitiful. For me it is time for him to go. Better if he brings Ben on his way out

  • Sean Newsom

    Bring back Cowher. You’d see rather quickly that there is all kinds of talent on this squad that’s not reaching their potential.

  • Alan Felicia

    What talent did Cowher develop? You were talking about offense, Cowher believed in a vanilla Power running game. Difference between Cowher’s team was that they had a solid offensive line who were led by a Hall of fame center and stayed relatively healthy year in and year out.
    The defensive philosophy was the same since LaBeau runs the same program he helped developed with Dom Capers and Cowher. Cowher had winning teams early on when he had numerous playmakers like Lloyd, Greene, Kirkland, Brown, Lake, Perry, and, of course, Woodson on defense. Took him 3-4 years to get back to winning when players were replenished thru the draft by both Tom Donohoe (Aaron Smith and Joey Porter) and Colbert (Hampton, Polumalo, Haagans, Taylor) plus signing Farrior in 2001.
    Yeah, coaches coach, but, you need talent to win!

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