Steelers Versus Raiders Winners And Losers – Week 8

The Pittsburgh Steelers lost to the Oakland Raiders 21-18 on Sunday and below is my list of winners and losers from the game. Feel free to add your own in the comments below.

Winners:

Lawrence Timmons – Timmons had eight total tackles and six of them were within three yards of the line of scrimmage. He even forced a fumble in the game while playing with a casted left hand that he broke last week.

Emmanuel Sanders – I will look past the false start and pick penalty in the first half. The false start I think was questionable. Sanders recorded seven big catches for 88 yards and a touchdown and it was all him on the two point conversion.

Troy Polamalu – Outside of being blocked by a wide receiver on the long run by Terrelle Pryor to start the game, Polamalu played well and was always around the football. He had a sack to go along with two passes defensed and an interception, which was a gift from Pryor.

Brett Keisel – Keisel had a rough opening few possessions on defense, but rebounded. all of his tackles were inside three yards of the line of scrimmage and recovered a fumble, a sack and a few pressures.

William Gay – Unless my count was off, Gay only allowed one reception and he recorded four total tackles.

Losers:

Shaun Suisham – Suisham finally missed his first field goals of the year and they cost the Steelers the game. 34 and 32 were the distances.

Zoltan Mesko – Mesko couldn’t handle the snap cleanly on his second punt and played a part in the block. He also had another JV punt of 30 yards late in the second quarter.

Ryan Clark – Clark was lost big time on the Pryor touchdown run to start the game and along with Vince Williams and Polamalu, he failed to bring down Raiders running back Darren McFadden at the three yard-line on one of his two touchdown runs. While he did total 12 tackles, only four of them came within five yards of the line of scrimmage.

Ike Taylor – Taylor didn’t give up many catches in the game, but the ones he did give up were pretty big ones and he wasn’t even close on them.

Antonio Brown – Yes, he did have nine catches in the game, but he should have had two more that would have been huge. His one drop in the fourth quarter came on third down and thus killed a drive. His second drop/fumble resulted in the ball coming out and being intercepted by Raiders cornerback Tracy Porter. Those were two big plays.

David Paulson – Allowed his man to block the punt and nearly allowed another one. I am afraid to look at his run blocking.

I am, I'm me. 40 something, retired and a life long Steelers fan.
  • StarSpangledSteeler

    Very fair assessment, Dave. I’m glad you didn’t put Bell in the loser column because there wasn’t much he could do running behind our sub par OL, but he did pretty solid in the passing game.

    I am tempted to put Jericho Cotchery in the semi-winners category and Heath Miller in the semi-losers category but neither was a clear cut argument IMO.

  • Fire.Mike.Tomlin

    Losers:
    Tomlin
    Haley
    LeBeay
    Rooneys
    Fanbase

  • Fire.Mike.Tomlin

    We’re going to “unleash hell” on our draft position. Instead of Clowney/Evans/LT we’ll finish 5-11 and get a RT (from Alabama)
    woooooooooooohooooooo
    not.

  • AzheDraven

    At least they will take a look at themselves and then prepare to face NE, they will be a strong test, but winning that game is not impossible.

  • RedCarpetDefense

    Oh please no more 1st rd O-linemen…this team needs a playmaker on offense. Even if that playmaker is a QB.

  • RedCarpetDefense

    Interested to know why the fanbase are losers. At this point there may be some in the stands that could do better than some on the field.

  • T R

    When you start to be on the Loser’s list or should be week after week *Ryan Clark* its time to look at you will not be back next year.. Its just said when several big splash plays kill you and did you just have no urgency in 3rd qtr to come back.. Why in the hell does Tomlin always have to defer, whats the point of defering and you defense give up a TD then when you get ball back in 3rd qtr down you have not urgency or made not changes to hurry up and score.. Take the ball first from here on end..

  • T R

    right, we got all 1 and 2nd rd lineman on the field and they all stink.. I want a damn first and 2nd rd wide receiver… someone who can get us down the damn field instead of these lil quick baby screen with lil tiny azz receiver who try to use speed. Everyone fast now so speed don’t is hit or miss in that game now… we need big dependable. a Calvin & Dez type. NOW!!!!!

  • DAYSNWAYS

    zero tackles, zero sacks, zero contain…. aren’t you missing someone off the losers list?

  • WifeOfThor

    I wonder if Ryan Clark is rethinking his comments regarding Ben and the offense during the bye week? They annoyed me at the time and in light of this game annoy me more. Get your house in order before judging someone elses.

  • T R

    Please put yourself on the loser’s list Dave Todd for twitting this

    Steelers Depot‏@Steelersdepot13h

    On a positive note, the #Steelers offense hasn’t turned the ball over today……. yet.

    Then the very next play, Ben throws a Interception. Still waiting on lottery ticket numbers Dave.
    Good Job.

  • steeltown

    Losers…everyone, I agree with your winners list those few players played a good game but pretty much a terrible game in all phases. Pretty sickening to watch after playing so well the last 2weeks. We had a chance to gain some serious ground in the AFC wildcard picture with MIA, NYJ and Cleveland all losing and BALT on a bye, but no, we failed to rise to the occasion.

    …and of course, more injuries along the OLine to boot

  • Alexander Sebastian Heath

    Le’Veon Bell may not be a loser but I’ll say Steelers fall into “loser” category when they drafted Le’Veon. He’s like non-explosive version of Mendenhall, you only should rely on him if you have a good O-line for it. Not just that, he lack the breakaway speed. Would never break for a longer run than 30 yards, even Dwyer could do that.

  • Alexander Sebastian Heath

    Even myself, personally am not a fan of his commentary but.. really, man? Is that necessarily? He’s working on this website daily and constantly, it is a thankless job. Superstitious only get you so far. Those bud light commericals are broadcasted for a reason, bottom-line is that the talents are really inferior and lacking. Our coaching staffs truly are just average. It happens.

    Big ben is probably the only elite player remaining on roster and am not even sure if he is still one. Yes I’m telling you man, with Dave’s jinxing or not- we haven’t seen the worst. Trust me.

  • Bell Cow

    Thank you! I’ve been saying from day 1 he’s very similar to Mendenhall.

  • T R

    I know just messing with Dave… but just funny how he barely go the tweet out and the INT came.. it was really funny.. i knew it was coming too..

  • T R

    so you dont think polamalu is elite? i mean we still got some good players on team. but we just seem to get let down on big splash plays that we can’t recover from..

  • Bell Cow

    I agree. Please no more offensive linemen with a high pick. It scares me that Jacksonville and Arizona spent top 5 picks on Joeckel and Cooper and both of those guys are out for the year. I could definitely see that happening to us since we seem to be cursed with offensive line injuries. Also, the track record right now of linemen being drafted high isn’t very good. Monroe (traded to Baltimore), Levi Brown (pretty much out of the league).

    It takes years to develop linemen and Big Ben doesn’t have enough time left his career to wait around for them to improve. I think Colbert needs to go with the “Rent-A-Linemen” route and spend high draft picks on play makers on both sides of the ball.

  • T R

    Yep, just like last year. When Bmore lose and some other teams. we have the prime opporturnity to gain ground, we dont accept the gift and lose too… we could finally put bmore under us in the AFC north race and we failed badly…

  • Alexander Sebastian Heath

    All right man I got ya! Haha about Polamalu- thing is… our team rely on base 3-4 defense, which means its much more of a team effort. Not that I don’t think he’s elite but how this defense is dragging him down. The talents is really bad, I don’t think we all have even realize it. In a sense, Troy Polamalu got his first turnover of the season right?

    In past with an elite defense we used to have, how long would it take him to have his first turnover? Easily first 2, 3 games. He is an opportuntistic playmaker and you can’t be a playmaker on this defense if we contain or cause very little to no pressure. In many ways, Polamalu and Earl Thomas both are very similar and Thomas is succeeding because his defense is at such level where he can thrive.

    We just… sucks. Last 2 seasons it didn’t appear to be that but… yeah we suck now.

  • Ahmad

    For every nci eplay Sanders had, he also had one equal and opposite bad play. For example, that 2nd down drop he had late in the game, failing to sit in the zone on the 2nd drive resulting in a 3 and out, the false start, and there is one more but I can’t think of it at the moment.

  • JAMESH

    Like waiting by the phone because it is not impossible that Kate Upton might call.

  • J&LSteeler

    This team has no obvious leaders. No one to rally the troops. No square jawed coach to get in your face, grab your shirt and spit on you while telling you to get after it. No player to get the offensive unit or defensive unit together and say we are embarrassing ourselves. Let’s step it up. Where is that guy? I found Ray Lewis comical in that effort, but it worked very often. Brady does the same – rants on the sideline sometimes. I find it shameful to be smiling like a chesire cat AFTER you’ve dropped an easily catchable pass that would have been a first or a touch down. Until that kind of fire returns to this team, it will continue to be what it is – below the line.

  • Shannon Stephenson

    The big difference between Bell and Mendenhall is that IMO Mendenhall never played with heart. Only when he was in the doghouse would he play well. I do not think that is a issue with Bell.

  • Shannon Stephenson

    I do think there is a lack but it is a lack of talent and/or exp.

  • Eric

    Loser list includes all 3 OLB’s with o sacks. J.Jones and Worlids combined for 1 tackle and 2 assisted tackles. Woodley ran right past Pryor on the touch down. The entire defense is on the losers for allowing 100 years rushing not counting the 93 yarder. The Offensive line is on the loser list for allowing 5 sacks. Heath, Sanders and A. Brown all had key drops despite otherwise good games. Leveon Bell and less than 2 yards per carry rushing, must be on the loser lust. If the offensive line caused Bells terrible performance, then put Bell on the list twice.

  • J&LSteeler

    That is true. No way we should have lost to Oakland or Minnesota. Our overall talent is better. When you lose games you should have won, that is lack of focus. Leadership sharpens the focus.

  • Mike Carroll

    Definitely agree about AB being on the loser’s list. Those two drops crippled their efforts to get back in the game late. And they showed the biggest problem with AB being you number 1 receiver: he’s too small. He had both catches made but failed to hold on because he was physically manhandled. You watch someone like Jordy Nelson (6-3, 217) and see the difference 5 inches and 30 lbs can make. It’s laughable that Steelers are paying AB almost twice as much as Nelson, but that’s on Colbert/Rooney.

  • Mike Carroll

    Agree on all points and would vote up 10 times if possible. Oline and Dline sucked once again. OLBs were made to look like fools against a dynamic athlete like Pryor. Heath is showing his age (no longer what Steeler fans believe he is and clearly not worth his cap hit), Brown had two terrible drops late in the game because he is too small and can be physically manhandled. Bell is not getting any better results than the backs did last year.

  • Mike Carroll

    Bell is not getting any better results than the collection of RBs did last year. He produced some yards against Balt (with some good blocking), but was totally stuffed by the NYJ and OAK. Unfortunately, Dwyer or Redman probably would have done about the same because that’s what their numbers from last year suggest. For whatever reason, the team can now run on Balt, but basically nobody else in the league. Quite a change from the past decade, LOL.

  • Mike Carroll

    Disagree about talent. Oakland has some dynamic playmakers. That’s why they had a 93 yard TD and 5 sacks among other things. McFadden looks dangerous with the ball (against the Steelers anyways).

  • Mike Carroll

    Clark is burnt toast left in the oven too long. Terrible timeout by Ben. Wasting a down by spiking the ball would have been better than calling a timeout on first down there.

  • Jeff

    Wow Clark, how many times you gunna make the “losers” list this season? Feels like it should be every week at this point….

  • Dr. Doom

    My Winners List

    Really hard to find:

    Jacoby Ford-Thanks for the fumble :)

  • Jeff

    Ben should be on the list just for using that timeout instead of taking a 5 yard penalty on that last TD drive, too. Real bonehead choice there.

  • Jeff

    Maybe Pryor after his 93 yd TD…. because he didn’t do anything after that, ended with a 25 QB rating, and we still lost….

  • TheBlitz

    To his credit, it’s difficult to run the ball effectively when 3 starters on the Oline go down with injuries and the team is behind by 18 points in the first half alone. It changes the game plan entirely and it doesn’t help either if the new guys coming in upfront can’t hold a single block.

  • Dr. Doom

    laughable that he is in the top ten in receiving yards. ridiculous comment

  • Jeff

    I couldn’t disagree more. I’ve only seen Bell spin one time thus far with the steelers. Mendy has prob spun at least a few hundred times w/ the cards this season.

  • Dr. Doom

    Really they were on their 4th string OG

  • Dr. Doom

    Emotion will only carry you so far

  • Mike Carroll

    Just saying the results are the same as last year. Now, with 3 OL injuries, that is same as well. Not giving up on Bell, but really need to see some consistency from him.

  • Dr. Doom

    No he has not been elite since 2008

  • Dr. Doom

    throw your computer out the window and yourself after

  • Dr. Doom

    fire yourself too

  • Dr. Doom

    some of you people should have yourselves tested, its obvious your parents are cousins

  • Tim Bodamer

    I put Woodley in the “losers” column- he doesn’t sniff the quarterback or draw enough fear to create double teams to allow Timmons and Jones to have better matchups. As much as their oline has been maligned…a healthy Pouncey and Decastro are good to very good players. It’s the second round picks that are “below the line.” The kid in Alabama (Kuanjo-Kuanjo-???) is an athletic stud who I liken to a Ryan Clady, Russel Okung. Bell will be fine. Look at his line- geesh. I also am in the very small minority of trying to trade Ben by the deadline today or in the offseason. As great as he’s been (and I’m a Ben fan), he still refuses to throw the ball away or dump off to safer options. What’s the sense of having a franchise quarterback if the rest of the franchise is in flux. Free up cap space and let’s retool through the draft AND free agency (and I’m not talking about bringing back Crezdon Butler (sic) and Keith Urbik (although he would help.

  • Tim Bodamer

    Can’t disagree more. He runs downhill, something Mendy couldn’t. Better pass catcher and pass blocker. What’s the sense of breakaway speed if your line doesn’t let you get to the second level. How has breakaway speed treated Chris Johnson these past few years. Usually like your posts Alexander but we disagree on Bell. Bell is a rookie, he will improve.

  • Mike Carroll

    AB can do a lot of great things for the team. But, I think his size limits his ability as a number one receiver. It’s a big reason why he’s effective between the 20’s but invisible in the red zone. The Redskins had Santana Moss post some good numbers with them for years, but they never won games with him.

  • Jeff

    People still have landlines? :)

  • Bell Cow

    You’re not making any sense. Aren’t you the one who originally posted they don’t need to draft any more high picks on the offensive line?

  • ATL96STEELER

    As bad a loss as this was…the DEF completely handled OAK in the 2nd half…idk how many 1st downs OAK got in the 2nd half, but I’m thinking it was maybe 3.

    That said, most of my losers are on OFC/ST

    Ben…when the TV analyst (who is not a regular Steeler broadcaster) is picking up on the fact that you’re holding the ball too long, you’re simply putting too much pressure on the OL. Everyone wanted to kill Adams, but we’re seeing it wasn’t just him. A hope and a prayer pass under pressure in the RZ was picked…fortunately OAK was holding on the play. A pass beyond the LOS? Even his last pass of the game…you have NO timeouts, and not enough time to spike it, yet you throw to the middle of the field…of course he was going to be open!

    Paulson…whiffed on the block on the punt that was blocked.

    Suisham…you undid all of your good this season in one game.

  • Mike Carroll

    No need to get personal and make dumb suggestions to others on this board.

  • J&LSteeler

    Just like NOS, it can propel you across the finish line first sometimes. That would be a good thing! How do you think adrenaline is manufactured?

  • Dr. Doom

    It was like watching a more athletic Tebow

  • Chad H

    Dr. Dork do you just come on here to bash everything everyone has to say.
    He is making a point that AB has to play more physical but lacks do to his size. It is a valid point and as a #1 WR on any team you have to make those catches and win the battles. AB failed 2 times that could have and would have changed the difference in this game.
    If you are going to bash someone for their opinion and observation then go some where else.

  • Chad H

    One splash play and our poor ST play lost this game. Goes without saying our offense can’t generate any TDs.

  • Alexander Sebastian Heath

    Agree! But that’s not saying much though.. there is very little to no improvement between Mendenhall and Bell. As you see now, it’d have been a good idea to keep Bell, Mendenhall, Dwyer, maybe Felix Jones. That corp can do a lot of damage as whole.

    That being said, we need a Willie Parker (with better durability and ball-handling) for this offense, to give us more explosiveness to running game.

  • westcoasteeler

    Well, if we’re talking draft pics, this high one we’re about to get should be traded for MORE pics. Not only do we need MULTIPLE playmakers on both sides of the ball, we need to prepare for most of them to get hurt.

  • Shannon Stephenson

    We did have LSH who was dynamic but there is a guy in college by the name of Dri Archer. He is a little guy but he runs the ball well and catches the ball good and takes it to the house all the time. He would need a little more bulk but the kid is dynamic

  • steeltown

    True… WR, TE, OT, DL, S, LB and a couple CBs… basically the same as last year with more emphasis on CB, WR and OL

  • Dr. Doom

    No thx fine where I am if ur points stupid and lacks facts that’s ur problem

  • Dr. Doom

    If the pick is a high one top ten, they should “smartly” trade back.

  • JohnnyV1

    Loser – Steelers 1st Half Defense for allowing a Raider offense, ranked worse than their own, to score 21 points in the first half.

  • Dr. Doom

    Could not agree with you more, just don’t know where that cap space will come from. I’m all for these changes:

    Release in season-Zoltan Mesko.

    Release Off Season-Ike Taylor, Heath Miller if refuses pay cut, Troy Polamalu, David Paulson, Matt Spaeth.

    I am one of the biggest Polamalu fans, but this is also a business and how many more full seasons does he have left and he has lost a step or two.

    Heath is the embodiment of what the Steelers are all about, but he has to take a paycut. His number is really high next year.

    Allow to walk-Ryan Clark, Brett Keisel, Ziggy Hood.

    Give Ben a team friendly extension to lower his 2014 & 2015 cap numbers.

    Resign Johnathan Dwyer.

    Draft Targets T/WR/ILB/S/CB/TE/P

  • Chad H

    Oh ok and other posters parents are cousins is a fact. Real mature there web post tough guy.
    Fact AB is a great receiver no one said he wasn’t. Fact he lacks size to be physical and command a double coverage. Fact he is not great at blocking.
    Fact if we had a CJ, AJ, Marshall, AJ Green, Fitzgerald and up and coming C. Patterson with AB our offense would be a lot better. Now make an argument based upon facts.

  • Chad H

    Opinion from the great expert!

  • Alexander Sebastian Heath

    Like I said in my post; I wasn’t bashing Bell, no- I’m bashing the pick Steelers made because there is a Le’Veon Bell in every draft. Yes, his kind is a surplus now. Most importantly I’m bashing the Steelers FO for the position they put young players in, I’ll tell you this much; there won’t be that much of improvement between now and 3 years later for Jarvis Jones and Le’Veon Bell. They won’t regress but they won’t be progressing into all-stars that Kevin Colbert imposed.

    There was reasons for the trade that Browns made with Trent Richardson. There are reasons why Bills’ CJ Spiller looked so good last season. faster RBs and bigger receivers really are the solution to our O-line woes, I like Le’Veon Bell a lot just like I do with Jarvis Jones but they WON’T make that big of contribution because they will be prevented by the lacking skillsets among teammates. Its sad but those players can be the cornerstones but they won’t be.

  • Alexander Sebastian Heath

    Other thing about Rashard Mendenhall was that he’s a quite athlete. He’s a big back who could run 4.4, you don’t see that anymore however longer he play with our O-line he developed bad habits. Any running back will tell you this; athletic prospects who are raw will stick to same method again and again until they learned other moves. That’s actually more of a fault toward Kirby Wilson and some toward Mendenhall. He had potentials to be the best running back we ever had and that’s not an overstatement.

    Things just pan out differently.

  • RedCarpetDefense

    What is it about my comment you find horrendously offensive to you? Enough to want me to throw my computer out the window with me following closely behind. Am I to understand that you feel ANOTHER 1st rd lineman (O or D) is what will make this team turn the corner? Last I checked no offensive lineman won a game for an NFL team…THEY ARE SIMPLY NOT GAME CHANGERS.

  • RedCarpetDefense

    Wow some down arrows for your response. I totally agree with you and I’ll even go a step further and say there are no elite players on this team. Sure we got some really good players in Ben, Antonio, Heath, Polamalu, Timmons and a bunch of solid contributors but in no way is this team the 2012 KC Chiefs where we stink but we got 6 pro bowlers on the team. The proverbial window has shut on this team and in no way are the Steelers the Super Bowl or even playoff contending team as in recent years. I’m not blasting the team but it is what it is and we (Steelers) are who we are. It’s not all bad though because there is a lot of young potential talent on the roster its too bad we won’t get to see much of it because of the coaches’ (seemingly) loyalty to the veteran players will keep these guys on the sidelines.

  • Richard Edlin

    Still a good player but not elite – and neither is Ben.

    Whilst it’s not the best measure – look at the top 100 list to see where his fellow players rate him. Polamalu made it to 91 on reputation alone and whilst he looks better now than any time since 2009, he’s not the same player. What makes his play worse at the moment is that Clark is terrible. With his current health and a decent safety alongside him, he could pick things up. However, time is ticking and it’s a massive contract.

    I think it really is a rebuild mode .. Ben’s big and hard to bring down (if increasingly fragile) but his playmaking causes as many problems in big games as it solves. Pryor’s responses to broken play was better than his yesterday and he’s a very limited passer. Lots of balls when behind players and it’s just lucky that he didn’t give up a sack fumble. I’d inevitably regret us doing it, but I wouldn’t be sad to see him traded as we try to get the team back on an even keel.

  • Richard Edlin

    Don’t feed the troll.

  • AndyR34

    We had OLB’s iin this game?

  • Dr. Doom

    Really a top 100 list/thread

  • Eric

    LOL. We only had 1 ILB #54 also. Hoping Spence gets in a game this year. BTW, I had season seats at 3 Rivers from 72 – 76. I luv me some Andy Russel #34.

  • CrazyTerry

    LOSERS – A Brown: What he did was inexcusable for a top WR on the team. Not only did he SINGLEHANDEDLY kill two drives on his own, one of those cost us 3 points and both miscues came on two late drives.
    Suisham: CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE. FOr a guy with his accuracy, that was a flat out choke on the second miss. But he gets a second chance from me because of his previous games.
    Mesko – Why is he still on the team??? I would have cut him in the locker room.
    Ben: OK, he was not bad overall, but he did miss a WIDE OPEN Heath on 3rd down and to add insult to injury he missed while crossing the line of scrimmage.
    Then you had one of the dumbest timeouts ever. And even worse is that he still does not get it.
    Colbert, TOmlin, Haley , and LeBeau: Sure the D tightened up, but what makes our D look better is the lack of urgency on the other offense when they rack up a big lead (remember how much better our D looked in Chicago game when the deficit wsa big). BUt Colbert should take the blame for drafting backup quality players as starters. We got some good backups on the DL – problem? They are all starting.
    WINNERS: Hell, no. No way I anoint a winner after this loss.

  • MC

    I really disagree with the assessment of Bell. I continue to see yards gained that no other RB on our roster could achieve. I’ve seen him get chipped at the knees a few times yet he stays upright and gains yards. He has a knack of making something out of nothing when there are defenders in the backfield and a couple of times he gained a few extra yards cause of his stiff arm.

    I can’t see how people are not impressed with this kid. The oline doesn’t do him many favors either. After a game in which the steelers look the most unprepared out of any game i’ve ever watched, i’d say Bell played fine. If the O kept their drives alive by not dropping catches or letting pressure get to Ben this could of been a win and Bell could of had a much bigger game in my opinion. I’m glad we got him in the second cause he wouldn’t of been there in the third.

  • MC

    Bell has already shown more he’s more difficult to bring down than Mendenhall. Mendenhall might be more quick twitch and faster but Bell can break tackles and gain after contact better than Mendy, something a RB needs with this type of oline/offense.

  • MC

    I know Tomlin cops a lot of heat but it really is games like this that make me miss Cowher.

  • Kareem Daniels

    Ryan Clark needs to be benched. Mesko needs to be cut. The rest of the stuff you guys are saying is nonsense

  • Richard Edlin

    Do you turn to stone in daylight?

  • Alexander Sebastian Heath

    Again, it’s NOT about what Le’Veon Bell can’t do. Its the fact that there are limitation to his running style. If we are behind in the game- you go away from him and the running game, becoming a complete one dimensional offense. When we had Willie Parker, yes even he ran over 200 yardage against the Saints with two long runs of 72 and 75. THAT kind of explosiveness is sorely missed, would have fit in our present offense much better.

    That’s not taking anything away from Bell, that’s taking the inepts and inabilities of this offense for explosive plays.

  • Kris Gusto Williams

    Time to let one of the younger guys slide into Clarks spot.

  • William Martyn

    I disagree with the first part and agree with the second. I think Mendenhall is very over rated based on potential.
    I never thought he was all that fast with the ball, and with his size he never looked like he ran that hard.

    I agree with you in that we need someone with that kind of quickness, but I think with Bell and Jones we have much more upside that I ever saw in Mendenhall

    It’s Steelers nation, we rode the Bus to the super bowl.
    Even with our mess of an o-line(Big Ben should get to wear flags and count missisipies after the snap so he doesn’t get killed out there) we don’t need a Chris Johnson type to win.

  • charles

    Who noticed the Steelers listlessness. Just like against Minnesota. I think it is directly tied to Tomlin not flying in until the day before the game and long distances. If the team is a reflection of its coach, then Mr Tomlin is letting us all down.
    Don’t mean to pile on Lamar, however his getting totally fooled on the first f’ing play set the tone. He is making us all losers!!! A f’ing ROOKIE mistake. Second time he has made a game changing play for the opposition.
    Dick LeBeau should be on the losers list since our front seven looked lost the entire first half, it was like they had NEVER SEEN an option play.
    Tomlins management of the game is getting too very questionable…

  • MC

    If any game compels us to scrutinize the coaching staff it is this one. I don’t think i’ve ever seen the steelers come out as unprepared as they did in Oakland.
    The play calling was horrible. The players weren’t focused. The clock management was abysmal yet AGAIN!!
    How does a professional NFL team get clock management wrong so often like the steelers do? it’s ridiculous when millions of people at home are shouting out the right thing to do and yet they fail and they’re paid professionals.
    Other teams face adversity better than we have, we’re not the only team with injuries and other issues.
    Hell even the Rams without their starting QB is staying in the game with Seattle as I type. The steelers probably wouldn’t be able to match that effort even with Ben since we make sub par defenses look like the 85 bears on any given week.

    I’ve watched many people criticize the coaching and i’ve bitten my tongue but this is the game that has me calling for heads to roll.
    This team has no heart and that’s something the coaches are responsible for instilling into their team.

  • CrazyTerry

    As much as I bash Ben, Haley, Arians, Tomlin for clock management, the truth is a lot of teams in the NFL suck at clock management. Not everyone is a Payton or Belichick.

  • RedCarpetDefense

    Well she could always misdial…then the ball will be in your court my friend.
    “With A-game ready must always you be.” -Yoda

  • RedCarpetDefense

    I agree with your comment. Ben’s time is nearing its conclusion if not already. So much picks invested in this O-line and high ones at that. What this team needs, in my most humble of opinions, is a QB that is elusive while still looking to pass. Not necessarily a scrambler who leaves the pocket or pulls the ball down too soon but a QB that has the athletic ability to still get positive passing yards in spite of the ineptitude of pass protection by sliding around the pocket or escaping just outside of it. There is one such player that does this on a weekly basis in the collegiate ranks and is very underrated as an accurate passer. His name is Johnny Manziel.

  • Alexander Sebastian Heath

    I was thinking more along line of Giovani Bernard, Doug Martin, the kind. Not chris johnson. He’s overrated, I agree with you that Mendenhall is overrated as well but that doesn’t really take away from what he could have been.

    As you can see, more within the direction of bashing; I’m putting it all on Kirby Wilson. His lack of development, he’s been good in blocking department but what’s good is the blocking if O-line can’t block and your rb can’t run? I miss Dick Hoak. Man. Dude developed Richard Huntley, Bam Morris, Zereoue, the list goes on!