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Florio Has Now Weighed In With His Own Roethlisberger Trade Talk Conspiracy Theory


You knew that the Ben Roethlisberger trade story wasn’t going to go away after Sunday, right? Now, in an attempt to add fuel to a non-fire, Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk has chimed in with his own conspiracy theory related to the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback.

Here’s an idea.  What if the Steelers leaked the report to create an offseason market for Roethlisberger, in the event the Steelers need a viable Plan B to extending his contract?

What if? Really?

Sure, with the Steelers still very much mathematically alive this season, the team thought it would be the perfect time to cause a distraction prior to a game as it relates to contract talks that won’t even begin to take place until February at the earliest. That makes a ton of sense.

Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network still stands behind his flimsy “sources tell me” story and as a result Roethlisberger, his agent and the Steelers have all had a giant group hug.

Look, the Steelers will certainly do their best to extend Roethlisberger this coming offseason, but if the two sides fail to come to some sort of an extension agreement, the Steelers still won’t trade him. Roethlisberger is under contract through the 2015 season and if they are unable to lower his 2014 cap number via a contract extension, they’ll just have to find a way to work around it.

Eight quarterbacks have won the last 12 Super Bowls and Roethlisberger has won two of them and played in three of them. This is a quarterback driven league and the Steelers know good and well that they could go another 25 years without another championship as soon as Roethlisberger’s time in Pittsburgh is done.

Regardless of the draft picks they might receive for Roethlisberger via a trade, those draft picks do not guarantee that Teddy Bridgewater or Marcus Mariota will be Super Bowl winning quarterbacks.

Is Roethlisberger frustrated with the way the season has gone so far? Absolutely, he even said as much during his Sunday post-game interview. However, he also said on Monday in an interview that he’d likely call it quits before accepting a trade.

“I’d retire before I’d accept a trade,” Roethlisberger said Monday, via Ron Cook of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

We of course will have to wait and see how all of this plays out, but I am not buying any of what Rapoport reported or any of Florio’s “what ifs”.

What’s my defense? The Chewbacca defense, of course. None of this makes sense.

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  • Rosco

    Trade him and SIGN TEBOW!!!

  • Lamarr56

    Wow, this report makes Rapport look like a genius. I’m sick of these dumb reports. These guys are just making there own crazy guesses on what’s going on. So stupid.

  • RMSteeler

    I heard it through “sources” that Ben’s mother started this all to leverage the FO to get Ben some protection (doesn’t want her baby keep getting hurt) and to also get him two big WR’s and 2 TE’s. In a related but unreported development, she also wants a “mom cave” with a door through Ben’s locker. She insists all this will ensure that Ben gets the 5 SB wins he wants before retirement.

  • Fritz Baughman

    Florio is so much of a douche, that he can’t even get out of his own way when it comes to the drama in the NFL. This article here is a fine example of how he nitpicks at shit, while at the same time blaming the player, etc as being the reason why. He’ll beat a dead topic to death, while also taking the comments of a player and purposely blowing them out of proportion for his own advantage. He’s always been a bit of an asshole, but he’s gotten progressively worse. The fact that he’s over-analyzing every dam word out of Ben’s mouth is bizarre, and incredibly pathetic. Let it GO, Florio.

  • 20Stoney

    I used to really like Florio’s site years ago. Unfortunately it got to the point where he was obviously just posting things to fan controversy and drive comments. I don’t even look at it anymore….(not that he cares because it’s obviously worked for him.)

  • Luke Shabro

    The sarcasm is strong with this one… gooood….. goood

  • HarryBackside

    I don’t see why Florio’s theory is so crazy. It’s actually the explanation that makes the most sense, although I don’t necessarily believe that “Steelers sources” has to mean it came from the team. It could be anyone with a connection to the team, which would also includes players agents.

    I don’t think that the Steelers want to trade Ben, but they may end up in a situation where trading him is what is in the best interest of the team. If Ben doesn’t agree to an extension, it can only mean two things: he wants more money than the Steelers are willing to offer, or he doesn’t want to commit to the team long term, and plans on hitting the free agent market when his contract is up. In either situation, he is gone after 2015. Sure, there’s the franchise tag, but the cost of the franchise tag is already $14.62M. What’s it going to be in 2016, with 3 years worth of $20M/year QB’s averaged in? The Steelers aren’t going anywhere next year, so what’s the point of having a QB with an $18M cap number, if he’s going to be gone just as the rebuilding process is over?

  • Brian Miller

    I see what you did there…clever.

  • J&LSteeler

    Wow, I didn’t know I could use a variety of 4 letter expressive words and more in the posts! Here We Go!

  • r4kolb

    Luke….I am your father….

  • AndyR34

    Well…the point is that keeping Ben gives them the best ch

  • Sven_Hunkstrom

    Florio is a hack. I actually admire the manner in which he’s ascended despite not having an original idea in his life–it legitimately speaks well of his work ethic and ambition.

  • Bell Cow

    I agree the stories that were written about trading Roethlisberger are likely bogus. However, it bothers me when people use the argument that drafting a QB like Bridgewater or Mariota doesn’t guarantee success. I think we all understand that because there was no guarantee that drafting Roethlisberger would guarantee success. I’d rather the front office be proactive and realistic about how much time is left in Ben’s career. Wasn’t it our franchises’s biggest regret passing on Dan Marino in the draft? If the opportunity arises to draft a QB that your scouts strongly believe could be great, it would be foolish to turn the other cheek, especially with the rookie salary cap in which you could keep both QBs.

  • gene mann

    Bridgewater and mariotta are not super bowl type of QB to replace Ben.
    But We will know more when and if the steelers offer hi an entension.

  • sean mcmartin

    If it was BB trying to set his family and himself up when he doesn’t sign the extension. Odds are he would take a team that could block and would let him call his own plays and be a gunslinger.
    He might be missing his golf buddy who led him to the SB with his game plans.

  • 2443scott

    i hope the sources were not coming from the rabbits eating the practice field grass …we know they dont like the players playing on there food ….

  • Jeff

    Wow, being an NFL analyst is the easiest job in America. You can say the dumbest things over and over and OVER and still have a job.

  • Robert Truax

    “Florio is a hack.” – my thoughts exactly

  • JohnB

    im not trying to add fuel to the retarded fire but Browns have two first round picks and its the team Ben said was he was mad didn’t pick him. it wouldnt be a far move either. I cant count out what this or any organization will do now a days and it is a “business league.” That’s the only trade I could see happening. and that’s as big a long shot as Landry Jones starting for the Steelers next year.

  • tricitysteel

    John, there is absolutely no way the Steelers would trade a franchise QB within the division that they would have to face twice a year. Not that I think you were serious, just pointing out the obvious.

  • Burt Reynolds

    wouldn’t have to play him for long. he will be washed up at 34-35

  • steeltown

    classic

  • srdan

    Teh only way he leaves is on his own terms. The steelers understand how hard it is to find a franchise QB.

    I don’t see “on his own terms” happening either”. Where is he gonna go, to one of the teams in florida? Arizona so he can play with clark haggans (lol)? Minnesota?

    And like it or not, most of us have to admit that the other half of us (husband and wife) have a deep influence. Where is his wife from?

  • Steeler Fanatic

    I think that Art Rooney saying “we have no plans (to trade) him” as of right now, speaks volumes. They won’t trade him now and don’t have plans to do it- but that can change and the statement is arbitrary. Ben is not Brady, Brees, Manning or Rogers. He can take a good team and make it great (see running game and defense). He cannot make a below-average or average team and make it good. I’ve always been a Ben supporter. But sell high… this is the time. What is the purpose of having Ben with a subpar offensive line, inconsistent receiving corps lack of tight ends and young running back ? He can’t play tackle, tight end, etc. Secondly, this isn’t just about acquiring picks. It’s about eventually clearing cap space for potential free agents. (yes, they should consider a couple of mid-tier free agents. Finally, I’m tired of the “we had nobody between Bradshaw and Ben…. Bubby, O’Donnell, etc.” Well, 1989 is different than 2014. Quarterbacks are running pro-style offenses in high school. Winston and Hackenberg are excelling as freshmen. RGIII comes in and wins a division their first year. There are a bevy of quarterbacks that can help their team win, not just one or two in a generation. Having Ben is only one issue solved- they have so many more.

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    They would never recoup the value that he brings, He will be 32 next season no one is going to give them what it would take to move him. Why when they could get a 22-24 year old quarterback who has not taken the abuse he has?

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    Yeah that means bubkus

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    Tell that to Manning

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    weather man

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    They are already set up he has pocketed close to 75 million!

  • srdan

    26 year old QB w diabetes

  • Steeler Fanatic

    I don’t think either of us know what his trade value is. I think Arians will give up a high draft pick for him in Arizona. And 32 is still considered in his prime. He is still a commodity and he has the history of being a SB winning QB… Teddy Bridgewater doesn’t. It’s a matter of what a GM/Front office prefers in a QB…Obviously, if they wouldn’t get much in return, you let him finish his contract, but this is also about clearing cap room once his contract is up- you let him play out his contract and move on. A 34-year old Ben is not going to be elite. My more pressing frustration is the cap h-ell we are in. We have $84 million invested in 7 guys and the other 46 make $40M combined. That would maybe be okay if those 7 guys were all performing at a high level. Ike is not, Woodley always gets hurt, Troy is healthy but how much is he truly impacting the team, etc. etc. Again, I like Ben but let’s be realistic. He holds on to the ball way too long, has made horrible decisions at the end of games (see Dallas and Cincy last year) and doesn’t want to buy into a coach’s philosophy, who if you and everyone remembers, they were 6-3, Ben was staying relatively clean and they were controlling the clock last year. Just sayin’.

  • Steeler Fanatic

    He is no Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning’s quick release has kept him clean and upright for 15 years. Ben will not be playing much beyond 34… I think his body will break down.

  • Steeler Fanatic

    That’s sort of the problem. Joe Flacco has won a Super Bowl… and he is just above average. Ben wasn’t an elite QB when the Steelers beat Seattle. I think it’s a myth that you need to have a Manning (btw- he’s won one Super Bowl and really didn’t play all that well). I think when you have a $100M quarterback, you get away from running the ball more, you get away from managing the game better, etc. Or should I say Brady and Manning know when to bail and live to fight another play. They are always putting their team in 2nd and 3rd and short… with Ben, it’s always a 30 yard seam pass or taking a 15 yard sack. I am a fan of Ben but I am more a fan of the Steelers. And if the rest of the team needs help in so many areas, having a great quarterback is not helping.

  • TheBlitz

    Maybe if Florio said this was an effort by the front office to have Ben verbally commit to the team in front of the Pittsburgh media and fanbase with the options of either signing the next contract this off-season (low contract I’d assume) or retire, or look silly if he doesn’t, then maybe I would have bought into it.

  • rizzo29

    Manning for the most part has always had 1 of the best o-lines in front of him can,t say that for Ben

  • Steeler Fanatic

    I agree with that. And Ben has made some unbelievable plays… but conversely he holds on to the ball longer than he should… and has trouble with accuracy on screens and slants. He is not as accurate as Manning or Brady, nor does he manage the game (time) and down and distance as those two. I know he brings a lot to the table- this is more about “Can the Steelers survive with a decent QB at a far cheaper price and build up the rest of the team?”

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    And the line combination is almost completely different. You can not ignore that. And AZ offensive line is just as bad as ours so there is no upside for his camp. None at all.

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    You can think it but Brett Farve is a very similar Qb and was still playing at 36

  • Steeler Wheeler

    Those are extremely accurate arguments for why Ben is not elite. He does not go through his progressions nearly fast enough to get that 4 yard pass plus 3 YAC equals second and 3. Now play action is on the table, not so much 2nd and 19. Ben’s best years are behind him, he had two great throws to beat Arizona and his second best post season moment was making a tackle after the Bettis fumble. Not the sort of pedigree that warrants top dollar. Steelers have been overpaying for Ben for years and it is hurting them.

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    The Steelers do need help, but a good QB does not come cheap. And rookies do not usually become good over night. Ben Was good fast thanks to a running game, good offensive line originally and a great defense.

    No rookie is going to come in here next year or the year after and win. What I think will happen is he gets an extension 2014/2015. Draft a young qb in 2015 and let him sit while the team is built back up and he can take the reigns in 2016/2017.

  • rizzo29

    I agree,Don’t know how many times I yelled at the tv for Ben to throw the damn ball away,but that,s how he plays and at his age he’s not changing.Don,t see another team taking him that would make it worthwhile for the Steelers,don,t see a team taking his salary as well as a couple of 1st rd picks

  • Steeler Wheeler

    Have you watched the games? Ben’s washed up already.

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    Really he is on pace for a career year. Its not over paying every good QB is going to get his money at some point. What hurt them and you are blindly ignoring is the word restructure. That is what is killing them.

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    you people are ridiculous

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    In NFL history there has never been a QB as big as he is and as strong as he is. So you really can not say when his body will betray him. But they would be best served to put a line in front of him. And he will be fine.

  • AmericanVeteran1

    RM are you a douche bag? Bens mother is dead, you jag off.

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    I would not have a problem with it, but he had better be really good. And if they took the Aaron Rodgers route where he sat for a couple years.

  • SumnerYoung

    What is a “decent QB”? One with a passer rating of 87.6? That’s the rating Ben has right now (although Brown and Moye each dropped a TD, and Brown dropped a pass that became a INT). Ben has a 92.3 rating throughout his regular season career. Tom Brady’s career rating is 95.9, and Peyton Manning’s is 96.8 (I bet Manning’s drops off significantly in the postseason though). So according to his current rating, Ben is still playing well. If Moye and Brown make those three plays, Ben’s 2013 season rating would be on par with his career rating, which is a very good number. I think of a “decent QB” as a player with a career rating in the mid 70′s (some recent names might be: Jon Kitna, Matt Schaub, Kerry Collins, Kevin Kolb). If that was the case for this team, the 2013 Steelers may only have 1 total victory. And furthermore, decent QB’s take a lot of punishment too, just like every QB. With a decent QB at the helm, the Steelers would clear a good bit of cap space, and would be competing for top five draft picks for the next couple of years. So either it’s a total rebuild, or get Ben some more weapons.

  • Dave Bradley

    agree 100%, Just for conversation sake. In your opinion, Ben’s best days are behind me, so why not trade Ben and see if we can get a few extra draft picks? Maybe an extra #1 pick? With the extra pick you can get your LT or NT to solidify both lines. In the 2nd round get your QB. McCararron would be nice, I wouldn’t take a chance with Mariota or T. Bridgewater. The kid from LSU, Mettenberger , 6’5″, 235 ,lbs might be worth a look. Why did we draft Landry,QB from Oklahoma?

  • Steeler Wheeler

    You know what Doom, that plan is utterly terrible. Just go look at current NFL franchise QB’s and where they came from. I count 14 viable franchise QBs, including BB, and there are 5 #1 picks, a #3, #4, and BB playing for the team that drafted them. 3 more teams with franchise QB’s came from free agency (2 #1 picks and Brees, #32). Brady and Wilson are the only two taken late, just lucky with Brady. I might argue the jury is still out on wilson when the NFL catches up to the read option. Few teams got mediocre QBs, Dalton, Cutler, Flacco, Romo, and maybe even Kaepernick. And 13 teams have tried and tried again to pick up franchise QB and failed miserably. To plan on just getting one in the draft and let him develop is just not feasible. Yeah, the Pack did it with Rogers, but he was expected to be a top 5 pick…and he is the only one, the rest of these guys got drafted high and came in and played.

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    Why is it so terrible? Most young QB’s do not have immediate success. And what young QB is asked to throw 34-38 times a game like Ben is now?

    The plan was for BB to sit until Maddox blew his arm out and CB was hurt.

    Tony Romo may not have playoff wins but he is not a mediocre qb at all. Numbers do not lie.

  • Steeler Wheeler

    I agree at long last Romo is not mediocre….but at what costs? How many seasons of him effing up games? Not OK in Pittsburgh. Cowboys have just one measly wild card playoff win (which is actually just a play in game) under Romo.

    I don’t know the answer. you gotta pick one and hope he works out, but chances are, if he’s not a top 5 pick, that he’s not your franchise QB. Gotta have lots of backup plans.

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    That is not just on Romo, just like this season is not all on Ben.

  • Steeler Wheeler

    Totally agree this season is not all on Ben, and that all the Cowboys failures aren’t on Romo, but a lot of them are.

    Regarding Ben, he’s given it all to Pittsburgh, probably too much some times, and although I believe there is still something left in the tank, it’s the old dirty fuel and not the good stuff :(

    If he were cut tomorrow, or this off season, who do you think would sign him and for how much? All else being equal, I’m thinking Alex Smith money is about right…and yes, I’d trade Smith for BB in a heartbeat.

    That’s the way the NFL is, use ‘em up and throw ‘em away.

  • AndyR34

    I’m one of the few not against trading him…IMHO he is selfish…is definitely not a positive leader…is going downhill fast…is losing accuracy…etc. And extra draft picks are nice, but we need to be able to draft well and the jury is still out on MT’s drafting ability. I don’t get all hairy about the “drought” between Brad and Ben…there was a longer “drought” from the 30′s to the 70′s! And I lived through nearly 1/2 of it…still rooting for the Steelers. I agree that drafting Landry makes no sense at all unless you really think that at the end of his rookie contract he will be ready to start. The FO and coaches must see something in him that the rest of us don’t…not unusual by the way…for based upon preseason performance…Parker would have helped us more than Landry if it came down to it. SO…I just pretty much accept that I/we don’t see the potential…I am not one of those that think I know more or are smarter than the FO.

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