Steelers 2014 Salary Cap Situation Heading Into The Offseason

The 2013 season is now over for the Pittsburgh Steelers so it is now time to look ahead to the 2014 salary cap situation as we head into the offseason. I will be breaking this down even more in future writings, but I will outline a few things here for you that I expect to take place.

For starters, the Steelers currently have 43 players under contract for 2014 and the total of those current cap charges is roughly a little more than $131,300,00. The Steelers also have $4,552,933 in dead money charges for 2014 and that brings the total up to nearly $136,000,000.

The early projections have the 2014 salary cap number at $126.3 million, so based on that number, the team is roughly $9.7 million over the cap with eight players needed to round out the Rule of 51. We will budget in a round number of $4 million for those eight players, so now we are at $13.7 million over.

The Steelers will be able to roll over roughly $1,352,450 in leftover cap space from 2013, so that puts us at roughly $ 12.348 million over the cap with 51 spots filled. We will get into more exact numbers as the futures contracts come in, but this will be close enough for now.

Now, the Steelers will surely release Levi Brown at some point, so that will clear $6.25 million in cap space minus the cost of the player that replaces him in the top 51. That move alone puts the team roughly $6.09 million over the cap.

The Steelers will of course need to trim that $6.09 million plus a lot more in order to sign a few of their own unrestricted free agents and here are some things that you can count on taking place.

For starters, an extension for Ben Roethlisberger will likely take place at some point during the offseason and that should clear roughly $4 million in cap space for 2014 if things go as I expect that they will. I also expect that Heath Miller will be extended and that should clear another $2.5 million in cap space at a minimum.

At some point during the offseason, I expect that Antonio Brown will have his contract restructured and that move will clear roughly another $3.9 million in cap space for 2014. While many won’t like it, I expect that Lawrence Timmons will again have his contract restructured and that move will clear an additional $3.9 million in cap space.

I fully expect that Larry Foote to be released at some point during the offseason and the team could decide to make him a post June 1st cut. While they would have to carry his full $1,833,333 cap hit until that date, they would then save $1.5 million in cap space for 2014 and only have a dead money charge of $333,334 in 2015 as a result.

I have a feeling that Ike Taylor will be back next season, but definitely not at the $7 million base salary he is scheduled to earn. This is real tricky as Taylor has the leverage right now being as the team lacks depth on the roster. Through whatever means necessary, I see a $3 million cap savings taking place.

We will get into this later, but safety Troy Polamalu, as expected, will be the giant elephant in the room and tough to deal with during the offseason. It’s tough to go to a Pro Bowler and ask him to take a pay cut. The team sure could use him back in 2014, so we will have to see how those talks go. As I sit here right now, I have a feeling that his contract will be left alone.

Finally, if the team is able to re-sign Jason Worilds right away, they might have to part ways with LaMarr Woodley as a June 1st cap cut. However, I think there’s an outside chance that they can keep both of them as long as Worilds doesn’t get an outrageous offer should he make it to free agency.

In this rough outline, I have cleared roughly $25 million in cap space and I did so via two extensions, two restructures, two releases and one salary reduction. I have left Polamalu’s contract alone and haven’t released Woodley. Should Woodley ultimately wind up being a June 1st release, that will free up $8 million in cap space for 2014, but not until that date rolls around.

As I mentioned earlier, I have a lot more coming on not only the 2014 cap situation, but possible contract for a few of the unrestricted free agents as well.

UNDER CONTRACT
PlayerBase SalaryCap Charge
Ben Roethlisberger$12,100,000$18,895,000
Lamarr Woodley$8,000,000$13,590,000
Ike Taylor$7,000,000$11,942,404
Lawrence Timmons$6,750,000$11,816,250
Troy Polamalu$8,250,000$10,887,500
Heath Miller$6,020,000$9,466,500
Antonio Brown$6,000,000$8,470,000
Levi Brown$6,000,000$6,250,000
Maurkice Pouncey$1,288,375$5,514,000
Steve McLendon$2,425,000$2,983,333
Cameron Heyward$1,289,322$2,133,418
David DeCastro$1,100,354$2,131,063
Jarvis Jones$800,705$1,978,523
Ramon Foster$1,650,000$1,950,000
Larry Foote$1,500,000$1,833,333
Bruce Gradkowski$1,550,000$1,833,333
Shaun Suisham$1,425,000$1,762,500
William Gay$1,500,000$1,666,666
Matt Spaeth$900,000$1,037,500
Marcus Gilbert$815,103$1,026,905
Mike Adams$712,150$966,450
Le’Veon Bell$495,000$936,500
Curtis Brown$645,000$775,300
Cortez Allen$645,000$742,875
Sean Spence$590,000$726,345
Chris Carter$645,000$685,700
Markus Wheaton$515,000$662,844
Shamarko Thomas$495,000$608,288
Landry Jones$495,000$604,805
David Paulson$570,000$581,474
Kelvin Beachum$570,000$581,474
Robert Golden$570,000$571,668
David Snow$570,000$570,000
Will Johnson$570,000$570,000
Antwon Blake$570,000$570,000
Vince Williams$495,000$514,670
Nick Williams$495,000$509,462
Nik Embernate$495,000$497,500
Terence Garvin$495,000$495,000
Brian Arnfelt$495,000$495,000
Derek Moye$495,000$495,000
Hebron Fangupo$495,000$495,000
Isaiah Green$495,000$495,000
Total Under Contract$88,981,009 $131,318,583
DEAD MONEY
Player*Cap Charge
Willie Colon*$4,300,000
Terry Hawthorne*$142,539
Justin Brown*$78,054
Mike Golic*$5,000
Cordian Hagans*$3,334
Chris Hubbard*$3,000
Reggie Dunn*$2,667
Omar Hunter*$2,667
Joe Madsen*$2,000
Curtis McNeal*$2,000
Drew Butler*$1,668
Adrian Robinson*$1,668
Alan Baxter*$1,667
JD Woods*$1,667
Terence Garvin*$1,334
Brian Arnfelt*$1,334
Mike Farrell*$1,334
Luke Ingram*$1,000
Total Dead Money*$4,552,933
Grand Total*$135,871,516

I am, I'm me. 40 something, retired and a life long Steelers fan.
  • steeltown

    Nicely done, I have no issue with restructures to Timmons and Brown as they are two players that have actually played to their contracts..and they play their hearts out.

    I also see extensions for Ben and Heath and of course Taylor will have to take a paycut of some sort.. and I am also in agreement that Levi Brown and Foote will both most likely be released

    The sky is not falling Pittsburgh…… now, lets get Worilds locked up!

  • srdan

    The 43 contract will get interesting. How do you ask a probowler that played every game to take a cut? I guess they may talk about extending to two years maybe, but why would he? I also think that he made the probowl based on his performace this year, not on his name as he had done previously.

  • Geoff Cordner

    Is Worilds really worth resigning? Not sure I really see his value.. injury history and 1/2 a season of production on only one side of the field. Is he really worth it or are we creating another Woodley-sized contract problem for the future?

  • Nolrog

    Why would he extend? To give them some cap relief this year without having to take a pay cut. Win-win for both sides.

  • srdan

    He will make 8mil this year. Why would he give that up? He earned every penny of it this year. And troy being who he is, I am not sure he wants to commit to playing much longer.

  • Nolrog

    You don’t understand. He wouldn’t take a pay cut. By extending the contract, they could take his 2014 salary, turn it into a signing bonus and prorate it, for cap purposes, over multiple years.

    As I said, that would give them cap relief this year without having to take a pay cut. Win-win for both sides.

  • RW

    In a post-June 1st Woodley release, what would the dead money charge be for 2015?

  • RW

    Yes he is. One – what depth do we have behind Woodley and Jones? Two – is Woodley even a 3-down player at this point? You have to question his ability to cover out in space. Three – he’s played lights out for most of this year and when he was called on last year. I doubt he gets a Woodley-sized contract (remember, Woodley had 10+ sacks for multiple years, and that’s what they paid him for).

  • srdan

    You are assuming a lot: That he wants to keep playing and that he will take a modest salary.

    Why would he play for less than 8 mil a year? Do you think teh steelers want to give him that much, no matter how you structure it? That is why the author calls it an elephant. It’s a lot of money, but he is worth it and we are thin in teh secondary. He has said that he wants to see where he is in life after his contract. I don’t see him playing until the wheels come off.

  • steeltown

    First off he would never get a Woodley size contract, secondly this past sunday was the first game he missed since 2011. He has actually been our healthiest LB not named Timmons since that time

  • steeltown

    approx. $8.5MIL

  • Nolrog

    I’m not assuming anything. You just don’t understand.

    Whether he wants to play or not is irrelevant. He can retire anytime he likes, the contract extension will not prevent that.

    It’s an accounting trick to allow them to spread the cap hit over multiple years. That’s all. Troy gets not a penny less money for doing this. It just lets the Steelers spread the cap hit over multiple years.

  • steeltown

    He still receives the same amount of money, except instead of a huge base salary its converted into a guaranteed bonus that would be prorated over the next two seasons

  • srdan

    lol, I don’t think you understand. He has one year left on his contract. There are no accounting tricks left. He costs 8 mill next year if he plays. There are no tricks unless you extend him. Which is where we get into your assumptions.

  • srdan

    I was under the impression that next year is his last under contract. If I am wrong than you guys are correct, there are tricks left to be played. But if it’s his last, its 8 mill against the cap on his last year, whether its base or bonus.

  • Nolrog

    Yes, extend him. That was the whole beginning of this conversation. Why extend him. Because it gives the Steelers the ability to restructure 2014 money into future years. That’s why you extend him. If he doesn’t want to play beyond next year, that’s fine. He can still retire.

  • kev4heels

    Troy is obviously the big question. Maybe we extend him a couple years and lower his hit this year.

  • srdan

    Oh, I’m starting to understand now, lol.

    So you are saying to give him a 2 year deal, for the vet minimum, and convert the 8 mil to a bonus he is paid the day he signs.

    That works, got ya. He may do that,

  • srdan

    But that means that we would be paying 4 mill for nothing in his second year. Kinda take your medicine now or later.

  • Nolrog

    Yes, that’s exactly right. They still have to account for that money at some point. But should they do it now or do it later? That is indeed the question.

  • RW

    Yeah… I can’t see them cutting Woodley with that dead cap money looming in 2015. I’d hope they could keep both of them.

  • David Edward

    Nicely done Dave! Those are basically the moves I would make initially if I was the GM.

  • David Edward

    It would actually be worse if they kept Woodley around because he’s due a base salary of $8M in ’14 and $8.5M in ’15 (and $9M in ’16). They would clear up a total of $25.5M by cutting him. They should be able to lock up W orilds for less than that amount of guaranteed money (I look for him to get about 5/$40M and $18-20 guaranteed). The only way I think they’d keep Woodley is if W orilds breaks the bank somewhere else and Woodley agrees to a significant cut to his base.

  • srdan

    Woodley would get a big deal somewhere else. There is no reason for him to take a paycut.

    I agree with your estimate of Worldis contract. If he is signed it will be at the expense of other extensions, pouncey comes to mind. It will be hard to sign pouncey this year and worldis.

  • Bernie B Roten

    Ouch! looks like Pig Pen is bringing this team down with all those extensions in the past. Might be time to suck it up, cut him, and take the cap hit now.

  • Robert Truax

    They could have carried over nearly 4 million in cap space if they had let sanders sign with NE.

  • Bernie B Roten

    It’s definitely time to kick Troy Polamalu to the curb. Just like the Crows did with Ed reed last year. His years of being an ok player are done. Troy is a complete liability in coverage.

  • CW

    If you extend the current contract, then the 8 million left on the current contract can be reworked. Happens all the time.

    If they give him a two year extension then it works out to a three year contract remaining rather than a single year.

    The real question is whether Polamalu wants to play football for three more years. If he does, he’s already given indications in interviews that he is willing to work with the team get his current contract under the cap, which means either a restructure or a pay cut.

  • HopalongCassidy

    Polamalu says he intends to honor his contract. I interpret that to mean…he expects the Steelers to pay him his full salary next year with no pay cut. Is this going to be another James Harrison situation ?
    Speaking of Harrison, if Cincinnati releases him, would the Steelers try to pick him up for one year at vet minimum ? He would be a good back-up at that price and could retire as a Steeler.

  • Alan Felicia

    But, Notoriously Inconsistent! Yes, Worilds played 16 games last year (2012 season) however only started 3 games, recorded 5 sacks and yet never good enough to replace a mediocare Harrison and a very injured Woodley as a starter. Plus, he started this season being beat out by a rookie.
    Best case scenerio, after all the re-structure, a 3 year/$12M ($3M Guarantee) would be a good offer.

  • steeltown

    I thought that’s what was being discussed, an extension

  • steeltown

    But you just said it, in limited time he produced and as a full time starter he really produced

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    The NFL is a business of tough decisions. The toughest this year is Polamalu.

    I believe the best business decision is to cut Troy outright. The NFL is a young man’s game. Troy will be 33 next season. I believe it’s time to move forward. Especially if he demands $8.2 million.

    We see how quickly players get “old” in the NFL. Aaron Smith, James Harrison, Ryan Clark, Ike Taylor, even Lamar Woodley. It doesn’t matter if you stayed healthy “last” year. The question is will Troy stay healthy in 2014? Or will we be paying $8 million for a guy on the bench?

    I would rather spend that money locking up Jarius Byrd or TJ Ward.

  • Alan Felicia

    Holy crap! You’re going to reward an oft-injured, very inconsitent player a $40M ($18M guaranteed contract)! Have you seen his stats before this (contract) year? Worilds had a total of 10 sacks going into 2013 season. Crap, Woodley recorded back to back double digit sacks in 2008 (11.5) and 2009 (13.5) before getting the huge contract extention.

  • Alan Felicia

    Let me clarify. When Worilds started 3 games, he only recorded 1 (one) measly sack! One.
    Yet, he played all 16 games and produced 5 sacks total.

  • steeltown

    On limited snaps.. and on both sides of the DL.. he produced, their are a lot of factors

  • DrakePirate

    Why would he give that up ? Because he couldn’t get close to that anywhere … He needs to take a HUGE pay cut or be released …. I disagree with Dave .. I don’t think he or IKE have any leverage … Troy would not get more than 5 Million on the open market … “No Way” and on top of that he would definitely take $1 mil discount to stay in Pittsburgh to end his career here … so why would the Steelers FO be stupid enough to leave the contract alone … ( just to be nice ??? makes no sense to pay nearly double for something that it is worth !!! ) same can be said for Ike … He can’t get more than 3 mil on the open market … so why would we pay him more … he either is smart enough to realise this or he walks and learns the hard way .. either way we win … we could easily pick up a journeyman with similar skills for 3-4 mil in FA if he balks at the pay cut … sorry but thats just business !!

  • DrakePirate

    Pay cut or NOTHING !!!

  • DrakePirate

    You are worth only what someone is willing to pay … and no one would pay him $8 Mil … so NO he’s not worth it … 5 is being generous …. I personally think they could have him for 8Mil/2 yrs !!!

  • Alan Felicia

    Seriously, 1 sack.
    Please stop defending this guy!

  • DrakePirate

    Noooo

  • DrakePirate

    I think Troy has another solid year left …. that said, the Front Office should be direct and forthright with him and offer him 4 mil or let him go … he would not get an offer much above that .. and to end his career in Pitt has a lot of value for Hall of Famers !

  • Matthew Anderson

    Just asking, but what about Heath? Lot of pre draft talk last year but nothing this year. He has been ok post injury but has huge salary. I think we restructured him so that’s an issue but he is definitely not on the up and I think other than Watkins, Ebron might have the best hands in the draft. Wouldn’t be bad to get a big replacement on board now and have some flexibility in future.

    Troy stays and bring back the beard. He just hasn’t dropped off as expected He has a year in him.

    What’s the financial ramifications of cutting Woodley after ’14? We have to pay him anyway for ’14 right?

    Nice article Dave

  • RW

    Eh we’re not too active in FA – if anything they’ll draft his replacement. I just can’t see them willing to lose two starting safeties in one year unless they believe shamarko can communicate effectively enough back there.

  • RW

    He’s a top-3 free agent OLB. Anything less than that would be a bit of a gamble. I still think they could lock him up for 4 years at 30 mil with 12 guaranteed, but the market will determine his worth ultimately. Regardless – we have no depth at OLB and Jones may need another year to bulk up and develop some more moves.

  • steeltown

    Im not defending anything, except the idea of retaining your already groomed talent instead of spending more early draft picks. We have Woodley and Jones and that’s it! Woodley has shown to be injury prone and his future is incertain, we NEED another starting caliber player at the position

  • Alan Felicia

    Antonio Brown took his 2nd year to improve and replace Steeler great in Ward.
    Heyward took his 3rd year to put it all together. These 2 players were groomed!
    Worilds was motivated by a new, bigger contract!
    Worilds had his chance his 2nd year in 2011 to replace Harrison who was coming off 2 back surgery and a knee procedure – but Worilds also missed 4 games due injuries. Had another chance last year to replace Harrison and prove to the coaching staff and front office yet he was inconsistent to the point that not only Colbert had to draft a Jarvis Jones but the rookie actually out performed Worilds in preseason.
    Bottom line, Worilds’ agent probably motivated and urged him to play for a big contract. You can even argue that Worilds sat out yesterday game so that he won’t get further injured.
    Yes, Worilds has played well and he deserve a contract. But God forbid this kid does get a huge contract next year and Worilds reverts back to his injured, inconsistent ways, I’ll be the first one to say “told you so!”

  • Jarod Wells

    What happens if they trade him for a mid rd pick?

  • steeltown

    That’s what im saying.. after a few yrs of being groomed but only spot starting here and there they finally got their chances to start full time.. and they produced

  • srdan

    I think you are throwing numbers and ideas around without much merit.

    Let’s first agree that he is a probowler. That means that he is one of the best at his position and should be paid as such. He got burnt earlier in the year, but finished very strong in his natural position. He is not any slower than he was 4 years ago, at least I dont see it. He changes games and is BY FAR our biggest playmaker.

    8mil is a very high number for a safety. realistically these contracts are not designed for him to get that last year. But he played well enough that it wouldn’t be out of the question. He also played all 16.

    I strongly disagree on your assessment that there wouldnt be a strong market for him. Ed reed got 3 years 15 mil from the texans. He is 3 years polumalus senior. If I am a team out there looking for a defensive play-making, former DMVP, superbowl experience, leadership and outstanding citizen, it wouldn’t be out of the question for him to get a 3 year 18-20 based on Ed reeds contract.

    That is his outside leverage. But internally from the team, if they don’t bring back Clark (they shouldn’t), who are the starters next year? I don’t want our starters to be a rookie and a second year player. Do you?

    If your definition of a journeyman is will allen or the other safety that left last year, I’d rather take 43’s twilight years.

  • srdan

    Again, based on Ed Reeds contract, these numbers you are saying don’t make sense.

  • srdan

    I like that idea. We need depth at OLB.

  • Yorgos Mazkell

    If Jason Campbell becomes your QB.. . . . then a Fired Coach is what You’ll Be !!!
    I have no issue with restructures to Timmons and Foote.

  • srdan

    That means the other team would take his contract on. If someone was willing to do that, the steelers would trade him for a gatorade cooler.

  • David Edward

    Worilds will probably get a contract similar to what Kruger got from the Browns…both have similar resumes going into FA, and he’ll be the #2 available 34OLB behind Orakpo. Would be a shame to let Worilds walk for significantly less money than what they are paying Woodley, considering Worilds is heading into his prime and Woodley likely out of his. If Worilds had Woodley’s 2008-10 stats heading into FA, he’d command a 6/$70M contract.

  • Dan

    I totally see where your coming from, but if we assume Shamarko will be replacing Clark, then we might be better off transitioning the other safety position a year later instead of both at the same time. But cerainly from a risk standpoint it could be argued that it is a greater risk that we’ll be paying millions for a guy who is unlikely to play 16 games, compared to the risk of a weaker secondary without him.

  • Dan

    Just hoping the Front Office stops this restructuring madness and gives us an opportunity to have a healthy cap situation in 2015 and beyond.

  • HopalongCassidy

    Bad idea to extend him. That just hurts down the road. The best thing is get him to take a pay cut or release him if he won’t.

  • DrakePirate

    You need to rewrite your post … makes no sense … BOTTOM LINE … THERE WILL BE NOOOOO TAKERS FOR TROY for over 5 Mil … PERIOD !!!! You use Ed Reed as an example … and that was your mistake … ED REED is the poster boy for why you don’t pay high prices … do i need to remind you he was cut !!!

    We don’t need to pay TROY … we can have him for 4Mil that is the plain truth .. and if the FO doesn’t realise this they are plain BLIND !!!!

    THis is coming from someone that LOVES TROY, REED & HARRISON .. some of my Favorite players … but from a business standpoint makes no sense .. !!

  • kev4heels

    Do you think anyone we draft or bring in as a FA will be better than Troy for the next 2-3 years? The guy is still playing at a pretty high level. You can extend him with a smaller salary/bonus structure. If he doesn’t want to do that and won’t take a paycut he will still be around. Hate to say it for all the get rid of Troy proponents but he is still far and away our best DB.

  • DrakePirate

    Ed was offered 5 mIl …and the Texans realised it was a HUGE mistake …. so of course it makes sense ,.. that is actually the example i am basing it on …. gosjhhhh

  • HopalongCassidy

    You don’t extend a contract for nothing. Do that and you’ll still end up guaranteeing the 8 million salary due next year plus . You are still going to have dead money down the road. It makes no sense to keep extending dead money into the future. Sooner or later. you have to pay the piper.

  • Bob Graff

    Haven’t the Steelers learned yet. They can’t keep restructuring all these contracts and keep holding on to yesterday. It truly is time to rebuild with our current roster we can still be pretty competitive. But this team really needs a breath of fresh air. There is a bunch of talent in this years draft lets bring in some new guys and give it a go.It may sting for a year or two but it’s better than paying millions for years to keep going 8-8.

  • blackandgoldBullion

    That’s what I’ve been saying. I know it’s tough at first but it must eventually be done in order to have some kind of a future where you have a shot at winning it all. Like this, it could easily end up being years of mediocrity.

    I was yelling about getting some young guys on the field and just look at the results. Some of them have become starters with great upside. Still more will become role players. And all the while instead of losing out they still managed to win 6 games in the 2nd half of the season. That’s what I’m talking about. Get rid of more big contracts, the type where you get rid of 1 guy and can afford 2-3 replacements. It gives your more chances of finding the guys that will win you your next Lombardi.

    Let’s get on with it.

  • Brendon Glad

    When the heck is that GIGANTIC “new” tv deal that was signed 2 years ago finally going to kick in? Sounds like the players are getting completely bamboozled. No idea how the cap keeps going backwards or staying flat with the huge increase of that tv deal. Can anyone explain?

  • Brendon Glad

    Although to be fair, aside from the tv money, nfl revenue SHOULD be going down if we are smart. Lord knows Goodell has made the game about 30% less-fun to watch, so maybe it’s showing up in the books. Thats my only guess.

  • Bob Graff

    At least i know i’m not alone . HAPPY NEW YEAR !!!!

  • Michael Pearce

    Worilds is going to be the number one or two OLB on the free agent market and if he makes it to that point he most likely will be gone. I would be surprised to see us get him back with the 40 mil contract, as he and his agent will want to get him to open free agent market. If that is the case I would at least put the transition tag on him so we can get something back for his loss. Other than that franchise him and give him a multi year contract after the June 1st release of Woodley.

  • Michael Pearce

    What are the chances we extend Pouncey this year? Can we afford to break the bank with Pouncey and is it worth it considering we have two pretty good centers now to choose from to take over for him after next year. Velasco and Wallace have proved to be very capable and will be a lot cheaper to sign. I would like Pouncey to stay but not sure we can afford to make him the highest paid center in the NFL, and be able to keep some of our other players in thinner positions on the team.

  • kev4heels

    Who says you are extending Troy for nothing? The guy is still a top-10 Safety. You can structure the contract to push money to the backend. If he starts to wane in ability, you can let him go with a lot less dead money. Who is going to start at S man? Clark will be gone and you are pushing Troy out the door. Who will play Safety? Golden and Thomas. You are sacrificing the team to save money. For what end purpose?

  • DrakePirate

    Let me correct you as you not know what you speak of … 1st off … Ed Reed Showed as great as he was … which was really great, he is finished now … because u know what …. he is fKn ,… OLD !!!! and what dope are u smoking ,… Polumalu was drafted the year after Reed … not 3 yrs … forget about age … its all about yrs played … get a grip clueless …. !!!

    U are an Idiot …. if u think anybody in the league will pay Troy more than 5 mil for more than one year … u not only not know the game but don’t deserve to be on this forum …. stop spewing garbage if u speak stupid shit …. geesh how stupid can u be !!!!

  • DrakePirate

    Sorry if u think Will Allen is a 3-4 million $$$ journeyman … u have no business watching NFL or any other football for that matter … go take up bowling !

  • Tom

    Last year, my unpopular reasoning to cut Troy was that he had missed 22 of the past 64 games. Along with my notion that no safety is worth 10 million…and only an insane front office would allot 15 million of it’s cap space to 2 starting safeties. A notion that I still feel strongly about. I am glad that he proved me wrong, stayed healthy all year, and played well……

    Though I may not necessarily believe him to have played at a Pro Bowl level.

    I guess I now have to change my reasoning a wee bit…
    What’s the chances he can stay healthy for a full year, 2 years in a row?

  • Tom

    I think they should let him play out his contract and walk….
    Wallace or Velasco can play center adequately…the guards are OK as is.

    I’d rather see that money used to fill a need.

  • scott

    Cut Pouncey too. He is injury prone and the team is not getting their ROI on him. Good player but can’t stay healthy

  • srdan

    lol, dont get your panties in a bunch. I appreciate your baseless comments and your passion. I like fans that show up in these forums, at least you care enough, and would never call you names or tell you where you deserve to be just because we disagree. I have read your posts in the past and you tend to post after drinking, I’ll chalk this one up to a lapse in judgement.

  • srdan

    At the age of 30 charles woodson got a 7 year $52 million contract and played it out. Heck, at 37 he got a $2 million contract.

    Troy is 32 and coming off a probowl and playing all 16. No amount of capital letters help your argument. You actually dont have an argument, you just keep saying that there is no market. Ed reed got paid! Charles woodson got paid! Someone will pay Polumalu…plain and simple….

  • DrakePirate

    apologize for the names … but c’mon what kind of contract do u see Troy being offered … best case scenario is one which is similar to Reed given which was just under 5Mil/yr … thats the best case … so why should we overpay to keep him … thats all I’m saying ! The texans and the league view that one as a mistake and reed and Polamalu are very similar cases … true he played 16 games this year which has been rare lately but I don’t think he has much left in the tank …

    I would love to get 2 more Solid years from him and let him groom the young safeties, but he is not worth overpaying for !

    You are right about my passion (sometimes leads to being a little more harsh than i should be … sorry bout that) and Im much more often right about my judgement than wrong when it comes to football … lets just say we strongly disagree on this issue .. but would love to hear what u think he would be offered in FA and by who ??

  • DrakePirate

    Troy will be 33 in a couple months going on 34 next football season … (not a lot of takers at that price/age) I don’t understand what you mean by getting paid … Reed got 1 yr / 5 Mil and was cut … troy would be doing well to `get 5 mil Tops … which I don’t think he would get actually due to the risk of him being injured so often and his age … So that said if its between getting 5 mil from another team and 4 and some change from us to end his career a Steeler i think he stays !

    The only way he gets more is if the Steelers choose to Overpay him which i don’t think would be smart, but they very might well do it … but they surely don’t have to and nobody would knock them for demanding a pay cut

    I think they should allow him to see what offers are out there which could only help us !! I know Harrison got a dose of reality last year … and i think the same thing would happen with Troy !

  • DrakePirate

    Not sure where the drinking comment came from …. but heck its the holidays and football season so ur darn right there has been some drinking at least in this house