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Contract Jonathan Dwyer Signed With Cardinals Shows Steelers Didn’t Want Him Back


The Pittsburgh Steelers obviously didn’t want running back Jonathan Dwyer back in 2014. How do I know that? Just look at his contract.

According to the numbers filed with the NFLPA, the one-year contract that Dwyer signed earlier this week with the Arizona Cardinals was a qualifying contract for the minimum. That means Dwyer was given a $730,000 non guaranteed base salary and a $65,000 signing bonus.

The contract that Dwyer signed also comes with a reduced cap charge of $635,000 and that’s further proof the Steelers did not want him back. It really doesn’t get any cheaper than that, outside of not giving him a signing bonus at all.

Now that he’s with the Cardinals, Dwyer will fight to be the backup behind Andre Ellington.

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  • Lucus Rodriguez

    I can see him starting in Arizona. Ellington is more of a Sproils type player than an every down back.

  • 20Stoney

    I’m not all that concerned about the loss of Dwyer. Decent running backs are a dime a dozen. Draft one later or bring in a choice free agent or two. Just don’t replace him with Felix Jones.

  • Maureen A Gomes

    Well, I, for one, feel a little bit better now. I wish the Steelers would get Cotchery under contract now.

  • Jason White

    I know Dwyer doesn’t have the greatest vision but he excells in pass blocking, knows the system and often makes big plays when he has the ball. I would like to know what he did to piss Tomlin off. They cut him last year when he was better than Redman who played all of what, 2 snaps in the preseason? But they chose to keep him over Dwyer.

  • 20Stoney

    I think it was coming to camp weighing 260 or how ever much it was. He never got out of that doghouse.

  • Matt Manzo

    I was hoping he’d turn the corner and man a tough guy role player part for us the next few years! I loved his 30 yard runs outta nowhere!

  • Nolrog

    Why does it count only as 635 against the cap?

  • Tom

    At that price…the Steelers should have kept him.
    Maybe we can get Beanie Wells…..

  • steelster

    Beanie Wells is such a joke

  • CrazyTerry

    Dwyer seems to have been in the same doghouse Starks was. Tomlin seemed to not want to play either even when they were better than some of the other options on the team.

  • PA2AK

    that has to be what it was. even though that doesn’t make sense, but if you have to make an example of a guy…

    big snack was never in shape (granted his position didn’t require it). there have been plenty of other player that don’t live up to their potential on the roster. just don’t understand why they would let him go if he is that cheap. who are they going to replace him with? a guy coming of knee surgery that needs his knees to be successful? Felix jones? maybe they bring back Redman…seemed to like him even though he’s near worthless. Yeah, they can pick up a kid in the draft, but Dwyer is a good value at that price considering the steelers lack of depth there.

  • Babybull

    Tomlins a joke

  • PA2AK

    while i agree that he is seemingly responsible for some really dumb things…there are just a couple owners out there that would love to have him.

  • shawn

    Dont know what to make of this … i thought he turned the corner this year with his play and was well worth to keep … good spot player and quality back up that could give u a 100yd game if Bell was out for a spell … and good pass blocker … dont fool urself that aint that easy to find nor come much cheaper !

  • shawn

    Dave put up that in another post … i asked for clarification … apparently there is a rule that vet min only counts 630 against the cap … even tho the salary is more … not sure of the details … maybe he will post it sometime !

  • RASTA

    Is Munchak a big CJ fan? You really do need two dynamic backs in this league to run full bore from whistle to whistle through an almost 20 game season…just saying. As we all know, there are plenty of cap saving moves that the FO have available to themselves to still clear a considerable amount of money (and I am in the accounting camp that says the cap will blow up almost another $30 million over the next two years- so there is ALOT of room to conceptually work with right now, and this is the year to do it), plus we have no other running backs except Bell and CJ fills many of the other molds that would normally be platooned. Hell, if the CB’s don’t slide in the draft, then maybe we can get a twofer in the draft and pick up Big Ben’s big tall WR, and gain Miller’s future replacement with Ebron in one fell swoop. Then we have 3 big TE’s and 2 awesome backs with #7 calling plays at the line based on the defense he sees. Just my thoughts… and they make me happy. Go Steelers!

  • steelster

    Dude, you are all offense and no defense. We need balance.

  • steelster

    I agree with you. I sure would like to know what LaGarrette Blounts price tag is. He would be a great fit and worth paying extra for.

  • RASTA

    You must’ve missed the part that said “if the CB’s don’t slide in the draft” dude (as the other defenders then are reaches, and we will be taking Ben’s target before Day 3, imo). I am about the D first (and we struck there 2x in FA,(3x incl. Worilds), and I love the Safety move – brilliant!), but we need a young big strong TE and Ben was promised a big target by the FO, and Ebron can line up Jimmy Graham style and fulfill two needs at once (three if you count him as our #3 or #4 WR for 2014 as well (much like Chris Johnson can now too). Do you see our RB roster right now? And how often does a CJ-type player become available (especially since we know more than almost 30 other teams about him now with Munch, and please don’t forget that we now have All-Day’s position coach), it’s like kismet, lol. Go Steelers!

  • ATL96STEELER

    Actually he came into OTAs in great (230ish) shape, but ballooned to the 260 range while in camp I heard and that was part and parcel why he was cut LY. Tomlin really questioned his drive to play after that.

  • steelster

    CJ is a starter and will want to be a three down back on a team that wants that. We have our back in bell. Also, we could never afford cj not even close.

  • shawn

    i like Blounts play … always have … but after that playoff performance doubt he would be in our range … but would consider that an upgrade and be happy … not sure bout his character, lockeroom etc .. haven’t kept up with that

  • steelster

    like the steelers the pats are always in cap hell and after the revis signing may not have much left. Knowshown Moreno is also available and he and blount are still only 27.

  • RASTA

    I think we can afford him (as my original post semi-concludes), and every running back wants to be an every down RB, but most true competitors really would like a ring before they are done. Not to mention this prolongs both of their careers.
    I could be biased because I believe the Steelers have always been their truly greatest when they had two great backs at once: Harris/Bleier and Bettis/Parker.
    If the cap is blowing up from these TV contracts, now is the time to make a move to have that scenario again….Ben might even pitch in a bit for that kind of move imo.

  • steelster

    so what steelers are you going to trade for cj

  • ATL96STEELER

    CJ would make a nice thunder and lighting duo, but he’s not coming that cheaply. Whether he is or not is up for debate but he still thinks he’s a starter and will want starter money while trying to win a ring.

  • RASTA

    Yes he would, and in my original post I showed financially how this is not that crazy of a scenario. Does nobody here think that CJ’s former HC wouldn’t be able to talk him into playing for a ring THIS season while running with Bell. Just show them both the footage of those other Steeler RB duos hoisting the Lombardi together…sold. And if he is willing to take $6 million, we can absolutely afford him with the correct 3-4 year deal to have those two for the final push with Ben and AB.
    I don’t know who we would trade, but I’ll bet Munch would know what might work.

  • steelster

    Than he would be a much better fit for the Carolina panthers who are much closer to a ring than the steelers.

  • Steve

    If you were here during the season you would see clips of Dwyer missing the hole or not having enough vision to see the outside is open. Fumbles also hurt and came to camp out of shape and over weight. Tomlins patients were thin with Dwyer and let him walk. Don’t take a genious to figure things out.

  • steelster

    I’m sorry but you are really reaching with CJ, if the steelers pay him $6 million a year how are they going to sign worilds to a long term deal.

  • ATL96STEELER

    Agree with Steelster on this Rasta…the more I think about it, CJ would want 200+ carries a season, and Bell would as well…not a great fit even if the money could be worked out…a true change of pace RB that can be productive with 8-10 touches a game is really what we need.

  • steelster

    thank you. Another good fit for CJ might be the Arizona cardinals

  • Milliken Steeler

    Excuse me but that was 2012. Dwyer did not come into camp this year out of shape.

    Missing the holes to the tune of the ONLY back we have had to have a 4,0 ypc three years running? The longest runs from scrimmage three years running?

    Im done with the regurgitated vsion comments. What were the other backs excuses for being below 4,0 ypc? Better vision? What did Redman do at a critical point in the game? He fumbled. Dwyer was a very good blocker also. Now we have one more issue to address in the draft when that really didnt need to be an issue.

  • Steve

    He was in camp in 2013 at 260 pounds, is that in shape? He was blind to a lot of openings. Guess you didn’t see the same Dwyer that clip after clip showed here. He wasn’t cut for nuttin and is gone because he didn’t cut the mustard. He got a minimum contract because he deserved it. Our back is Bell, get over Dwyer who is gone! What were you in love with him?

  • Milliken Steeler

    He was not in camp at 260 lbs. I was watching closely and that was people guessing at his weight. I was watching and Dwyer was not at 260 lbs. He was at 230 235.

    He got cut because of Tomlins previous issues because Redman WAS NOT the better back and made the club from the tub, How did that work out for us? Where is Redman now and who did he sign with?

    Again. who else ran for a 4,0 ypc? Who had the longest runs from scrimmage? Who didn’t fumble during the regular season this year?

    Im over it but I’m not gonna let an arm chair expert talk trash about a very good back up.

    In love with him? Are you an idiot or do you just play one online?

  • Milliken Steeler

    260? lol That is Bettis weight, do not tell me he looked as big or even close to Bettis. Im 237 and I know what 260 would like like especially on Dwyers frame. He still has a quick burst and would be flat footed at 260.

    Think about what you said 260lbs? Did you see how big Eddie Lacy was coming into camp and he wasnt 260lbs and he is a bigger back than Dwyer.

    260? Listen to yourself. Pete Johnson of the Bengals was a huge back and he was 250- 255.

    Now tell me how I’m in love with Dwyer again skippy just because I’m proving your comments to be incorrect.

  • frednash

    redman didn’t fumble ben was at fault

    wrong play called

    a timeout should have been called

    redman and foote were never the same again after their collision

  • Milliken Steeler

    Some more facts for the people who like to regurgitate comments they see on threads and suddenly become experts on a player.

    Dwyer ran a 4.4 forty in college and a 4.5 at the combine. He ran the 100 meters in 10.8 in college. pretty damn fast for a fat body huh?

    Why do you think he has the higher ypc and the longer runs than anyone else in the last three years. he is quick and if he was anywhere CLOSE to 260 he wouldnt be CLOSE to running that fast.

    Are we done here? or do we want to say some other things we heard on some other threads about Jonathan, fatbody and slow Dwyer?

  • shawn

    I have to agree with Milliken … after the guy hit the streets he came back a NEW player … played with passion and came up big and did every thing asked of him …. that is the player i saw last year … i think u are talking about the OLD Dwyer … ur not going to get an equal back at his price … yes we can pay more and get an upgrade but we really didnt have an issue and this just adds to our problems that need to be addressed !

  • shawn

    Eddie Lacy looked like a Hippo out there in camp … off subject but i wouldnt trust that guy .. def has weight issues … i liked Dwyer came in with a different attitude after he was cut … like u said best ypc on team and came up big almost every time they needed it … I thought he really turned the corner as a player and professional … not only was he good at short yardage and pass protection but he could spot start anytime needed and still give u a 100yd game …. how many other backs can do that for vet min … good luck with us finding a cheaper better pick up !

  • Milliken Steeler

    My point exactly Shawn. Well worth the money we could have had him for and a valuable and durable player with a great attitude.

  • Steelers12328882

    Steelers didn’t want him back, or he didn’t want to be back with the Steelers? Another stupid move by the Steelers FO. This guy is a good backup and signing him for that type of money would have been a very good move by the Steelers.

  • Steelers12328882

    He arrived at camp in the best shape of his life. Not sure where you’re getting your information.

  • Chad H

    Nope

  • steelster

    why nope?

  • Steve

    If Dwyer was so good and deserving why wasn’t he resigned by the Steelers Milky?

  • Milliken Steeler

    That’s your retort? Explain to me the advantage of now having to sign an FA and a draft pick on a running back when our defense needs multiple picks and we were also looking at WR and possibly TE? Not to mention Dwyers proven ability now at back up running back and blocking. One more time, how many fumbles did Dwyer have during the regular season this year?

    I suppose Dwyer couldn’t block very well either? and blocking is something all backs do well right skippy?

    I suggest you loosen that tie as it cutting off your ability to discuss football. Move along as you’re hurting yourself. Please tell me ONE MORE time how Dwyer weighed 260 lbs. lmao To funny.

  • Steve

    In 2013 brought in LSH and Jones had Dwyer and Redmon, it was backup RB by committee which were all not resigned. Need a RB in the draft and sign a fast wiry multipurpose back for fill in’s that can play special teams.

  • Milliken Steeler

    Okay, now that, I understand lets talk turkey but, my concern is and this is really where the question mark about Dwyer popped up.

    We have a major issue on the D-line now..to go along with the OLB,ILB depth issues and of course CB.

    I thought the RB position was something we could have addressed later like snagging Rajion Neal in the 7th I thought would be a steal. Now, we have to go running back and maybe an FA addition as well. We could quite possibly because the devaluation of the running back get a guy like Hill from LSU which isnt a bad pick and people might go whoaaa, now that’s a one, two punch with Bell.

    But now we have chosen a running back in the second and third rounds two years in a row when our defense is needing probably 70% of our draft picks attention.

    Our offense would be definitely better however, I dont want to be like the 80′s Chargers and have to outscore everyone else to win. lol

  • Steve

    D line – not a problem and set with Thomas, Cam and Mac. LB – Jarvis, Williams, Timmons, World – Set. CB – Ike, Gay, Cortez. Safety – Troy, Mitchell and Will Allen.

  • Milliken Steeler

    I don’t know, I think Thomas is considered a back up or rotational player at Nose as they are trying to sign Carrington to start at DE. Even if he also was signed, we would have Arnfeldt, who I like and Williams as the back ups or rotational players. I have a feeling Fang is going to get cut.

    I think we are still going to sign at least one CB high in the draft so next year they can slide Gay to nickel when Ike retires.

  • Steve

    CB is a need in the draft and either a WR or TE, maybe both and a RB also. IKE wheels are ready to fall off, getting too slow. MAC was never tried at DE, a lot here think that is his spot, so we shall see what Mitchell does.

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