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ESPN Head-to-head Three Round Mock Results In Very Questionable Picks For Steelers


Thursday night on ESPN2, draft analyst Mel Kipper Jr. and Todd McShay did a televised mock of the first round of the 2014 NFL Draft and it consisted of them alternating picks. After the show, an additional two rounds was done and let’s just say that the three picks that were made for the Pittsburgh Steelers probably won’t please a lot of you.

In the first round, McShay gave North Carolina tight end Eric Ebron to the Steelers at No. 15.

McShay’s Analysis:

After Kiper reaches to take Pryor for the Bears, I get to select the 11th-ranked player on my board at No. 15. Ebron will give Ben Roethlisberger a big-time weapon in the passing game.

Former NFL general manager Bill Polian then weighed in on the McShay’s selection of Ebron.

“He’s a Pittsburgh Steeler and he doesn’t block. That doesn’t compute,” Polian said of Ebron. “I don’t think he’s ready to play in the NFL right now. I think he’s too immature. I don’t think his feet are firmly planted on the ground. Yeah, he has ability but that only gets you so far.”

In round two it was Kiper’s turn to pick for the Steelers and with 10 wide receivers already off the board, he decided to select LSU wide receiver Jarvis Landry for Pittsburgh with the 46th overall selection.

Kiper’s Analysis:

Roll the tape and you won’t care if Landry runs a 4.3 or a 5.3. I know this looks odd after Todd went with Ebron in Round 1, but I need another wide receiver, and CB (a need) at this slot is a value issue, especially with system fit in mind. I consider a prominent nose tackle option, but pass.

After not getting a cornerback in the first two rounds, McShay finally addressed the position for the Steelers in the third round with the selection of Bashaud Breeland out of Clemson.

McShay’s Analysis:

We have to get younger in the secondary and having taken two pass-catchers in this draft already, we’ll go with our eighth-ranked cornerback in Breeland. His aggressiveness in run support makes him a good fit.

Yikes!

McShay passed up Justin Gilbert, C.J. Mosley and Kyle Fuller in round one and that is where I believe this mock really went off the track for the Steelers.

Eight wide receivers in the first round? Really?

While I think Landry certainly has the tools to be successful at the NFL level, round two certainly is too early for him. It’s a full round or better reach.

As far as the selection of Breeland goes, while I understand the pick, I’m not a fan of it. In fact, I probably would have went with Jaylen Watkins out of Florida right here had things actually played out this way.

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  • Andrew

    These guys are idiots, wish i had their job

  • http://thereactionblog.com Michael Stickings

    Big-time national draftniks getting it wrong isn’t just a trend, it’s a plague. As the Daves said yesterday on the podcast, if you want real, honest analysis, go to the beat writers (or other “local” experts). This, simply, is ridiculous, and not just for the Steelers but in general (esp. overvaluing WRs).

  • dgh57

    I’m suddenly having this nauseous feeling come over me after reading this!!!

  • afrazier9

    they better not take ebron trade back if necessary

  • Smokin_Smiley

    yeah when you go national they seem to be least informed ….saw many slot us at safety in round one even though its not a huge need with poly, mitchelle ,sharkmode and allen already mixin it up….but probabley get paid the most….bad JU JU

  • Smokin_Smiley

    for there opinions that is

  • DarthVenamis

    I just think the idea of alternating picks is a terrible format for a mock draft. I think it would have been more valuable if they had split the teams evenly and drafted all the picks for the given teams. It would allow them to focus on the bigger picture between the three rounds rather than taking it a pick at a time. I think this would have eliminated selecting a TE in the first and following that up with a WR in the second which just won’t happen.

    Then again, I may be giving too much credit to the experts.

  • steeltown

    …madness

  • Doug Sawyer

    read Gerry Dulac’s chat transcript

  • Madi

    I wouldn’t hate Ebron, but with Fuller AND Gilbert on the board?? A good WR in rounds 2 or 3 is easy to find compared to a CB. Disaster.

  • srdan

    The first two picks can’t be coupled together. But either one alone is ok, especially if it were a tall WR.

  • grw1960

    McShay’s 1st round pick wasn’t terrible . Just not the best choice
    Kiper round two is a die hard Ravens fan and wouldn’t choose a good pick for the Steelers in any case.

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    Just Awful

  • http://pittsburghsportsinat.blogspot.com/ bgsteelfan

    UGH

  • http://pittsburghsportsinat.blogspot.com/ bgsteelfan

    The national guys always seem to get the Steelers priorities wrong, in part because of the overvaluing of WRs you mentioned. How many years now have they been saying that WR was what we were targeting round one?

  • Michael Walsh

    McShay is an idiot wannabe…it annoys me he gets paid for what he does…

  • Jason Brant

    What’s that old proverb?

    Those who can’t do… analyze for ESPN.

  • steelster

    Yes I read his chat transcript and didn’t learn much. I think that 90 percent of the people on steelers depot could have answered those questions. Which shows what a great job dave does.

  • Hard Row

    Jarvis Landry would make a better TE for the steelers than Ebron.

    If they draft him, the steelers would have
    Jarvis Jones
    Jarvis Landry
    Landry Jones

    They can start a boy band called Jarvis Landry Jones

  • Chad H

    Now that’s funny.

  • Paddy

    spit out my soda

  • Nick Halden

    Does anyone remember Mcshay and Kiper’s mock draft last season both of them completely missed on most of their pics

  • 20Stoney

    Didn’t someone from the Jets say something like that years ago about Kiper when he went off on them for drafting Jeff Lageman?

  • 20Stoney

    It would be interesting to see a breakdown of all of the draft “experts” and see who is actually the most accurate. It’s all just noise…… but we pay attention.

  • Jeff

    Polian seems to know his stuff. The other talking heads… not so much.

  • Lewis

    Ebron at 15 is not a bad pick. There’s a lot who believe he could crack the top 10. He’s a play maker that will add another dimension to the Steelers offense. More and more these pass catching TEs are making huge differences in games, and Ebron is supposedly the next big thing in that category. As for picking him over Gilbert and Fuller. Gilbert is the Ebron of CBs. He’s a playmaker, but lacks the true fundamentals like tackling and press coverage that someone like Fuller or Denard possess. Fuller is good, but I don’t see him valued higher than 20.

    Ebron might not be my pick, but I don’t think it’s a bad one.

  • Ahmad

    The selection of Ebron and Landry aren’t bad picks in and of themselves but just unrealistic. Everyone knows I have been beating the Eric Ebron drum since day one so if he is our first pick I highly doubt the Steelers would go WR in round 2. There are just too many other needs that need to be filled such as CB and OLB. Ebron is basically a TE and a tall WR so drafting a WR in round 2 is pointless. As for round 3, I have no idea who that CB is and would much rather prefer Jaylen Watkins.

  • k man

    If Ebron is there, the phone will be ringing off the hook, and I think the Steelers would and should answer it.

  • SteveM2

    Those two so-called draft experts are full of….themselves.

  • Nolrog

    It’s really irrelevant on what they think will happen. It’s not going to happen and we all know that.

  • Weiss Chad

    Landry might be better than beckam .i think Landry makes it to third rd though .kiper and mcshay for all the time they put into this don’t seem to get any more picks right than your avg fan

  • Eric MacLaurin

    I agree with the choice of Ebron. I’m a little surprised it’s controversial.

    Agree with Watkins over Bree

    Landry isn’t a terrible choice.

  • Weiss Chad

    Has either one of these guys ever made right pick for steelers .

  • Eric MacLaurin

    A CB can be found in round 3 but good tight ends can’t

  • Eric MacLaurin

    And those that can post in blog comment sections?

    I think we’re getting a littler carried away here.

  • Hopper

    According to that logic then the Steelers ought to make their first pick whatever position is weakest in any year’s draft. The Steelers don’t NEED a Tight End, at least not for another 2-3 years.

  • Eric MacLaurin

    Logic might have a different meaning than you think.

    As to need?

    1. Can also be a big WR
    2. See new england 2 TE offense
    3. Injury replacement for an older heath who is our only tall pass catcher.

    I agree we have bigger needs but some positions can be drafted in later rounds and some can’t.

  • WIINGY

    Jimmy Graham was a 3rd round pick.
    -there goes that argument.

  • WIINGY

    I don’t see the value in Ebron at 15. If he could actually catch it may be a different story.

  • Eric MacLaurin

    Is your point that you found the exception that proves the rule or that there have been about the same number of good TE’s chosen in later rounds as CB.

    I would completely disagree with the later and don’t think you have proven anything.

  • WIINGY

    I don’t see Landry going in the 2nd. He’s 5-11 with average speed. Not saying he won’t be a great player, but we saw the fall Keenan Allen had last year. He ended up going in the 3rd round.

  • WIINGY

    Last year the Redskins landed Jordan Reed in the third. He had 45 receptions.

  • Eric MacLaurin

    And I’m eating cashews.

    This isn’t trivial pursuit. What’s your point so I can figure out if we disagree or not.

  • WIINGY

    Julius Thomas – 4th round

  • WIINGY

    “A CB can be found in round 3 but good tight ends can’t”

    Not true
    Your wrong
    Move on.

  • WIINGY

    what’s laughable is you have to be an “insider” to see their drafts. LOL.

  • Eric MacLaurin

    I was responding to someone who used the same over the top description. If you could read you would have understood her point and my response for their meaning instead of your ability to read them another way.

    Context
    Get a life
    Move along.

  • WIINGY

    what context?

    “A CB can be found in round 3 but good tight ends can’t”

    false

  • Eric MacLaurin

    Conversational context.

    True

  • WIINGY

    The context doesn’t matter.

    You said good Tight Ends can’t be found in round three.

    Did you or did you not say that?

    You are wrong.

  • Eric MacLaurin

    You should take your add medication and read the whole conversation.

    I never intended to convey that it was impossible to get a good TE after the first round. I’m sorry if I confused you by not answering someone in a sound bite that could be defended outside of it’s context but you need to learn how conversations run together if the goal is to understand or even argue football instead of grammar.

  • Eric MacLaurin

    Let’s try just for fun though.

    What TE do we get at 97 and what cb do we get?

    I think we get a spaeth or an ike or basically the CB we always get.

    We don’t get heaths replacement.

  • Brian Tollini

    I hate the Ebron pick, but I am actually a fan of the Jarvis Landry pick-even in round 2. Breeland also is a decent value in round 3 but I hope we don’t wait that long to take a CB.

  • blackandgoldBullion

    Talking about ringing off the hook: I am hoping Gilbert is still there. I love the guy, but I don’t think they take him. Others might be so excited about potentially getting a good CB and great returner that they give the Steelers a great trade. Let’s pray some good guys drop and the trade down scenario plays out.

  • Brian Tollini

    I would a guy like Fiedorowicz, Arthur Lunch, or Crockett Gilmore could be had in the 3rd-4th round and all have potential to be starting TE’s in the NFL.

  • Eric MacLaurin

    It’s very unlikely any of those guys ever develop into what the Steelers want in a starting TE. Not sure they make it to 97 either.

    There are a lot cb’s into the 5th and we usually draft them late anyway.

  • steelster

    The steelers can get 2 more years out of Heath. Draft a te in 2016 in the 1st or 2nd round.

  • Ryan

    I would be livid if we drafted like this. Sure our offense would have some decent weapons but we cant ignore the defense especially CB in the first 2 rounds especially if Gilbert and Fuller are there. You couldn’t pay me to pick an immature non blocking TE in Ebron over Fuller and Gilbert.

  • Jason Brant

    Lighten up. It’s a joke.

  • Eric MacLaurin

    I think they’re all jokes on some level ( sarcasm in my case) but as a group we just sound stupid and angry because someone has a different opinion about a sport draft.

    I totally admit I was finally driven to remark when I got down to your comment and it was based on a dozen or so posts before it as well.

  • wdhammer

    it too long and dragged out now . These yo-yo’s have to keep relevant for ESPN so every day there ‘s a new twist. It’s old ,boring and lets just draft please…

  • Big White

    I wouldn’t be outraged with Ebron. Worthy of a 15 pick. Perhaps best player on the board at that point.

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