Steelers GM Kevin Colbert Says At Least 19 Players They’d Be Happy To Get At 15th Overall

The Pittsburgh Steelers held their pre draft press conference on Monday and while general manager Kevin Colbert and head coach Mike Tomlin didn’t reveal any earth shattering news during it, they both again talked about the good depth of this year’s draft class.

“We are picking at 15 and the player that’s going to be available to us at 15 in year’s past, you may have had to been picking at seven or maybe eight to get the same quality of player,” said Colbert. “There’s easily 15 players available that we’ll be very happy with if we’re able to pick them. And I think you can go and say there’s at least 19 that you could say you’d be happy to get at pick No. 15.”

Colbert also talked the trade up and down options in the first round.

“We won’t be trading up because we can’t,” said Colbert. “We traded away last year’s third-round pick. In order to move up in the first-round, you would usually have to include that in the package. We have a supplemental pick in the third-round, but you cant trade those. So there won’t be any movement up on our part, I can say that pretty sure.”

Colbert did, however, say that moving down in round one is a possibility.

“Obviously we still could still trade down and with the depth of this draft, I think it’s a real possibility, or at least that’s an option that’s available to us,” he said. “If we stay where we are, there’re probably a few positions that are off the table, but if we traded back, there would be no position that’s off the table because, again, it’s a special group of players.”

Colbert later said that while they don’t adhere to the trade chart themselves, they do use it as a guide to help decipher what another team might be thinking.

“We won’t ever make a trade based on the chart,” said Colbert. If we want a player, we’ll go and get that player.”

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  • StrengthOfVictory

    Two of the best things Colbert said during this press conference (to me) were:

    1. The Steelers will wait until 15 (to see who is there) before entertaining the idea of trading back. And that when trading back, you should go back about the number of spots (or really close to that number) as there are players you like in that round.

    2. If you see a player you really like, you’d better take him. (This reminded me of Bell last year, and I totally agree. If the player is special to you and worth it to you, go get him. Leave as little to chance as you can.

  • michael young

    Yup! What StrengthOfVictory said……the the T.

  • Kenneth Wilt

    It sounds to me, and this is just my gut feeling, that Colbert will draft at 15 unless a couple of things happen.

    1. It will take one of the QB desperate teams to feel like they might miss out completely on a QB if they don’t move up.

    2. They feel like they can still get someone they want AND add picks later.

  • srdan

    I like your first point. We had plenty of player be there that nobody “mocked” or believed would fall to us. Jarvis and Decastor are recent examples.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    Do you guys interpret that as 19 players minus the QBs? Or including the QBs?

  • StrengthOfVictory

    I think minus QB, because the Steelers have no interest there. That was my impression anyway.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    If Lewan is available at 1.15, a trade back with the Dolphins (1.19 + 3.19) is a high possibility in my opinion. It makes sense for both teams.

    I don’t think Colbert likes the idea of trading back to 1.30. He LOVES his first round picks. Why would he take a chance at missing out on all of his 19 favorite guys? Just to pick up a couple extra second tier prospects? That’s not his style.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    That’s how I understood him. Assuming there’s a couple guys in the “media’s top 19″ that are not on the “Steelers top 19″ and then add 3 QB’s…

    That means we could probably trade back to about 1:19 to 1:25 range and still get a “special player”. That’s how I see it.

  • Toddy Bravo

    I think he intended it to mean there are 19 that the Steelers would actually draft. That leaves out QBs. One has to believe that number includes:

    -Clowney
    -3 top CBs (Dennard, Gilbert, Fuller)
    -3-4 top WRs (Watkins, Evans, Beckham, Cooks, Lee?)
    -3-4 top OTs (Robinson, Mathews, Lewan, Martin)
    -2-3 Top OLBs (Mack, Barr, Shazier)
    -ILB CJ Mosely,
    -NT/DE (Nix and/or Tuitt),
    -2 Top safeties (Pryor, Clinton-Dix)
    -Maybe TE Ebron (but I doubt it)

  • Toddy Bravo

    Good call. It probably depends on how much the Dolphins like Zach Martin.

  • Iron Cadet

    i heard the eagles are interested in beckham. i think that would be an ideal tradeback, get a 3rd and still get fuller

  • Steelers12328882

    Wow, 19 guys? I could definitely find 10 guys that would drop to the 15th spot that I’d be happy with the Steelers drafting, but after that I think you really have to reach for guys that are backend 1st or 2nd round guys.

  • AzheDraven

    Any of you guys think we can get Fuller and Benjamin in 1&2? Or is that too much daydreaming?

  • StrengthOfVictory

    Yeah, but you can’t look at it that way. It’s all about team value. Some players will be picked ahead of where they’re “supposed to be,” while others will be picked later on. In the end, it makes no difference. For what the Steelers value in a first-round pick (and remember, the depth of this class means more players fit the bill), Colbert figures there to be 19 players they would be happy taking at 15.

  • StrengthOfVictory

    The most likely scenario for that to happen would involve trading back and getting a higher second-rounder in the process. And by higher, I mean one of the top five picks in the second.

  • AzheDraven

    That doesnt seem very likely. But I have seen KB falling all the way to almost the 50 pick in some mocks. I hope he can fall to 46

  • StrengthOfVictory

    Could happen. It all depends on how many WR come off the board in the first round, and if that starts a run at the position. You also have to remember that for some teams, KB may be the sixth best at his position. For another, he may not be in the top 10.

  • Steelers12328882

    I hear that, but what I’m probably not figuring into that 19 are guys that will definitely be gone by the 15th pick, like Clowney, Mack, Matthews, Watkins, Robinson, Evans, and Donald.

  • Steelers12328882

    Best case scenario is probably with Benjamin going within 5 picks before our 2nd, but you never know.

  • StrengthOfVictory

    Yes, and I think Colbert means exactly that. Not 19 players after 14 are off the board ahead of the Steelers’ pick. But 19 players at the team’s positions of need, period, all things being equal.

  • Steeler Fanatic

    I think they are moving back… Dennard, Gilbert and Evans are gone. The value might not be there at 15. I still think there is a .00001 percent chance that they consider trading Ben. The could get the Texans 1 and 2 this year and maybe another pick next year. He has two years on his deal and according the PG, nothing is going in contract talks. Sell high- he’s a borderline HoFer but he doesn’t have the team around him. Then trade down to the Falcons from 1 and get their 1,2, and 3… draft Mack if he’s there- or Evans. Then they can worry about QB later. It’s time to consider a change to go with the other wholesale changes, not because of Ben, but in spite of him and the team around him.

  • Zach

    Yep, I totally agree. SOME prospects will fall, it’s always like that — it only takes one team that is in love with a certain prospect. QBs or OTs falling would be a great scenario, as would Donald being there (since we pick ahead of the 4-3 Cowboys who are said to love him). I see the Dolphins, Cardinals, Eagles, and Browns as trade partners. Having said that they are looking at 19 first round players, I doubt they trade down below Cleveland at 26.

  • Lucus Rodriguez

    I would love a pick in the middle of the 3rd round where I think Crichton might fall

  • blackandgoldBullion

    Excellent point. Keep in mind that they also discussed how truly deep this draft is in the way of CB’s and WR’s — possibly their 2 greatest needs. That’s exactly what Colbert said many months ago. That’s also why I have been trying to figure out how they could get a trade with SF.

    Anyway, if that’s the case, you could easily see them moving way down in a trade scenario. There’s Cleveland, Frisco and others, just as long as they make it worth your while. They may be able to get several quality guys instead of just a couple. We shall see what they have in mind in just 3 days. I’m still praying for a trade down as it’s probably the best way to improve the team in a hurry.

  • steelster

    this makes no sense at all.

  • Alexander Sebastian Heath

    or the value of 19 players at 15th pick. The message was very vague, nobody would have know of if the player at 15 is ONE of the 19 players he liked… It could be either ways around.

  • Steve

    Might be worth a team giving all their picks for Ben AKA Rickey Williams trade by Ditka of the Saints.

  • Weiss Chad

    Trade back to nineteen .

  • steelster

    and it got Ditka fired.

  • steelster

    yes most likely trade back and hope to get dolphins 3rd or 4th would be ok also.

  • Steeler Fanatic

    It is a longshot… Why would trading ben for cap space not make any sense? I am just throwing out there for fun. Wouldn’t be an enjoyable draft to have a top 5 pick? We aren’t winning a Super Bowl this year so why not make a trade for the future. Baseball does it all of the time… I know, I know, baseball is not football… Just throwing it out there. And I am a Big Ben fan.

  • steelster

    Because you have a qb that has taken you to 3 superbowls and yes the steelers aren’t currently superbowl contenders but could be by 2016 if they draft well. I think big ben still has 5 or 6 years left in him. The steelers will have to drag big ben off the field. It could take the steelers another 20 years to draft a replacement that is as good as big ben.

  • Steeler Fanatic

    Again, I am half serious, and i am mostly with you. I don’t know why everybody thinks Ben can play five years. He is not a young 31 and last year was the first year he is healthy. I am worry he will break down with a $20 million cap hit. What happens if they are 8-8 again, three years of mediocrity with a Super Bowl quarterback? And as for finding a good young QB, kids are playing pro-styles offense in high school. You can find a qb these days. As much as Ben as won Super Bowls, so did that number one defense.

  • steelster

    his next contract will be a short one, 2 or 3 years and part of the deal the steelers will find a way so he isn’t a big cap hit if he gets a career ending injury. What does concern me is that he and troy were both healthy last year and they finished 8-8. This is a critical draft year and the biggest since they drafted big ben.

  • Alan Felicia

    Totally disagree. No way Pittsburgh ONLY getting a 3rd round to switch places. That is not enough value, IMO!

  • Alan Felicia

    Funniest thing I’ve read all day! We know you are half kidding, but, you have a better chance of hitting the Powerball than Roethlisberger being traded! LOL!

  • Alan Felicia

    If Pittsburgh is going to trade #15 pick, they should maximize or accept the best value coming back. I’m thinking a 2014 and 2015 2nd Round Draft Picks…..and nothing less.

  • steelster

    I’m glad you mentioned the 2015 second round pick I was just thinking about that. Could be get that pick and a 4th or 5th round pick this year.

  • dkoy85

    Would be nice! I’d rather see a 2nd/3rd this year and a 4th or 5th next. This draft is so deep, a very good first round talent could fall into the 2nd and we don’t have the ammo to move up BUT if we have an extra 2nd or 3rd we could move up and grab somebody who falls. Heck maybe one of Colberts 19 could be there at the Browns 2nd pick.

  • steelster

    In a deep draft if you get that extra second or third pick you stick with it. That is one more starter.

  • Alan Felicia

    That’s what I’m talking about! This year’s 2nd and 4th Round Draft Pick plus 2015 2nd Round!! Unless some other team offers better……..

  • Steeler Fanatic

    I am with you. Colbert and co. needs to hit a home run in this draft. And your take on Ben makes me feel better about the contract situation.

  • steelster

    They would have to trade out of the first round to get that kind of deal.

  • Steve

    What got Ditka fired was his team not winning and Rickey not being the back they had though he was.

  • Weiss Chad

    I have seen him as high as mid twenties to end of second round

  • Weiss Chad

    It would if your the texans

  • steelster

    not really

  • dkoy85

    Could go either way.

  • Alan Felicia

    Nah, don’t want to lose a first round pick. I’m just being greedy. But then again, if Miami is jonesin for that #15, can’t hurt to try…..

  • steelster

    oh yes and I think they will try. It will be nice to see the steelers not run up to the podium. In fact the exact opposite could happen where they may not make the pick until the last minute.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    This is a good thread idea for Dave (Steelers Depot). Who are the 19 “special” guys Colbert is referencing?… In my opinion:

    Clowney, Tuitt, Donald, Mack, Barr, Shazier, Mosely, Gilbert, Dennard, Fuller, Clinton Dix.

    Robinson, Matthews, Lewan, Watkins, Evans, Beckham, Benjamin, Ebron.

    That’s 19. Some could argue Donald is not a scheme fit but I believe with his talent level, the Steelers would find a way to make him fit. Just like Mosely is very light for a 3-4 Buck ILB, but we would find a way to get him on the field with Timmons.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    You may WANT more. I’m just saying other teams may not OFFER more. With the new rookie wage scale the old trade value chart doesn’t apply.

    Last year San Francisco traded picks 1.31 + 3.31 to trade up 13 spots to 1.18. Miami would only be trading up 4 spots this year.

    The question for the Steelers is… If we’re getting the same value of player at 1.19 that we’d be getting at 1.15. Why not pick up an extra 3rd rounder in a very deep draft? Even if it’s not as much as we may WANT? We’d still get another very skilled player.

  • steelster

    exactly, if you get that deal from the dolphins you take it. That is a no brainer.

  • cp72

    You could have had Joe Montana and Ronnie Lott and it wouldn’t have mattered the first 8 games with the way our offensive line played.

  • Toddy Bravo

    I think Mosely would be a much better fit for us than Donald. Mosely is definitely not too small to play the buck. He’s basically the same size as Farrior, who made that position famous for us. Don’t get me wrong, I think Donald is one of the top 5 players in this draft, but he’s just too short to play DE in a 3-4. Colbert has made that clear. A couple of months ago, he was quoted as saying that the Steelers have a height requirement for their D-Ends.

  • Toddy Bravo

    Besides that, I think your list is pretty close to being spot on. The only other ones I might have second thoughts about are Ebron and Benjamin.

  • Toddy Bravo

    I think you might need to add a few more zeros to that number when calculating the odds that the Steelers trade Ben.

    I remember saying “we can worry about a QB later” right before 20 heartbreaking years of Stoudt, Malone, Woodley, Brister, O’Donnell, Tomczak, Stewart, Graham and Maddox. Moral of the story: Don’t be too anxious to give away your franchise, Super Bowl winning QB. We both may be in adult diapers before another one comes along.

  • Steeler Fanatic

    Yeah, I am with you. My fear is a) he breaks done in a year or so, and b) if/when the team comes up with a succession plan to him, will he throw an attitude like he has at points throughout his career, pulling a Favre and not be willing to help the next “Rodgers.”

  • Weiss Chad

    You put Ben on the texans and that’s a Super Bowl contender for next five years.It will never happen anyway..Thang god

  • pat

    Just a thought but of them 19 players is any of them HaHa or Pryor

  • WIINGY

    Last year’s draft wasn’t like most drafts. It was a weak draft and teams were begging to move down.