2016 NFL Draft Player Profiles: Eastern Kentucky OLB Noah Spence

As we delve into the Pittsburgh Steelers offseason, our attention has now shifted to the 2016 NFL Draft as it relates to the prospects. From now until the draft takes place, we hope to profile as many draft prospects as we possibly can for you. Most of these player profiles will be centered around prospects the Steelers are likely to have interest in.

A breakdown of perhaps the top edge prospect in this year’s draft and one many Steelers’ fans have been asking for. Eastern Kentucky OLB Noah Spence.

#9 Noah Spence/OLB Eastern Kentucky: 6’2/5 254

The Good

– A+ athlete with an excellent get off, times the snap well and explosive first step
– Uses his hands well against the run, proper placement and capable of shedding
– Can win with his athleticism off the edge, flexibility to flatten and get upfield
– Aggressive, hungry player who attacks the football, looks for strip sack
– Versatile, played both sides, hand up and down, has experienced rushing out of left and right hand stance, appears to be left hand dominant
– Shows ability to counter, see it the more you watch, though still needs work on ability to set up his rushes
– Tons of upside and may only be scratching the surface of his potential
– Productive at FBS and FCS levels

The Bad

– Height/weight is fine but lacks length (31 inches, 74 inch wingspan), very much below average metrics
– Don’t have a ton of confidence in his ability to hold the point of attack or set physical edge in the run game
– Has to keep working on his counters, see speed rush too often and causes him to get run up the arc more than I’d like to see
– Hand use overall as a pass rusher is underdeveloped and he can get stuck on blocks,
– Needs to work on little things, become more detail-oriented, get hands up in throwing lanes as a pass rusher
– Didn’t drop a ton in college and will have to make position switch that requires it in the NFL
– Serious drug history, will have to be screened heavily, likely will be off some team’s boards

Bio

– 2015, lone year with EKU: 22.5 TFL, 11.5 sacks, 3 FF
– Originally committed to Ohio State in 2012, played for two seasons, had nine sacks (8 in 2013) over those two years
– Ruled permanently ineligible by Big Ten after a second failed drug test for ecstasy, suspended the first time for three games, later found out to be lying about knowingly consuming the drug
– Urban Meyer helped find him a home at EKU, sat out 2014 season
– Cited for public intoxication at Eastern Kentucky, charge eventually expunged from his record
– Had a great Senior Bowl week, glowing reports from nearly every outlet, including our own
– Five star prospect out of high school, 35.5 sacks junior and senior seasons combined

Tape Breakdown

Oh boy, he’s one tough guy to figure out.

If you listen to other draft analysts, you know Spence has been shooting up boards (which always play catch up to the NFL, they don’t create the market). At this point, it’s looking increasingly unlikely Spence is available at 25th overall, though keep in mind most – myself included – didn’t think Bud Dupree would fall, either.

There’s no denying this guy is a freak of a pass rusher. The tools are all pretty clearly there. His first step is what will define him and have fans of whatever team drafts him drool – and those who have to face him twice a year cringe.

Watch him whip this Kentucky right tackle off the ball and get skinny to turn upfield. Quarterback gets the ball off in time but the pressure is there.

And here he is flipped to the RDE spot, dipping and ripping under the left tackle, forcing the ball out of Jacoby Brissett’s hands.

The more I watch, especially in one-on-ones at the Senior Bowl, the more counters I saw. That was my real big concern early on and Spence started to remind me of Dee Ford, who I wasn’t high on coming out of Auburn. Just speed guys who don’t have any other plan. But while it isn’t perfect, it’s enough to show he understands the concept and will get better in time.

Here against Kentucky, he sets up outside and then steps inside to beat the left tackle, swimming over him and flushing the quarterback.

Still, he needs to be stronger in every facet of his game. Pushed around too much as a pass rusher and against the run. Watch him try to convert speed to power but the NC State left tackle anchor with ease, and then get completely moved off his spot and losing contain by the running back’s chip.

And here’s Spence pulling a rookie-year Ryan Shazier, trying to run around the lead block but really just opening up a lane for the running back. Has to be more physical and willing at the point of attack.

The elephant in the room, the story that will dominate headlines, is his past drug problems. I read what I could but did not talk to Spence and don’t have intimate knowledge on the situation and like any player, it’s hard for me to make any sort of final evaluation. Spence’s drug issue was not just weed, it was ectasy, and he failed two tests.

After the first, he claimed – later admitting it was a lie – that someone slipped something in his drink. He failed a second test and the Big Ten, not even Ohio State, ruled him permanently ineligible.

He had one other small incident at Eastern Kentucky, public intoxication, that was expunged from his record. He seems relatively clean since then and for what it’s worth, former teammate Braxton Miller spoke highly of Spence at the Senior Bowl. So teams are going to have to feel like they trust him. This goes beyond regular, weed-in-the-dorm-room issues. Will the life of the NFL cause him to fall back onto old habits or can he stay clean and be a true success story? I can’t answer that.

I like Noah Spence and I’ve definitely warmed up to him watching and hearing more about him, though I think I’m slightly lower on him than a lot of draft analysts. I don’t quite see a top 10-15 player here and feel his run defense is too underdeveloped for me to personally be comfortable taking a guy that high. If he takes the same “fall,” Dupree did, he’ll be a tough guy for me – and the Steelers – to pass up, especially considering how weak this edge class is. Just know he doesn’t come without his warts.

Projection: Mid-Late 1st

Games Watched: vs Valparaiso, at NC State, at Kentucky, Senior Bowl

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  • CP72

    Love the Dee Ford comp. Ford dominated the Senior Bowl as well. Guys that are ass kicking edge setters and excellent pass rushers are hard to find.

  • Bill Sechrengost

    Thanks Alex. No matter how talented he is, I wouldn’t be able to get past his drug and alcohol history. I don’t think the Steelers will either. I don’t see them even having him on their board (although we’ll never know for sure). You’re right, there aren’t too many edge rushers available in the draft. I wouldn’t mind seeing a profile for Yannick Ngakoue from Maryland. Looking forward to how he does in the combine. Keep up the good work.

  • kev4heels

    still betting steelers have him as a DND. shame too b/c he would be the perfect 1st round pick for us.

  • PittsburghSports

    I was really ‘high’ on this guy going into 2014, probably my favorite edge defender in college, and then the failed drug tests and he disappeared. Glad he’s got everything back on track. Still, I think we’re dreaming that he’ll be available at 25. I don’t think it’s comparable to last year either, with Dupree or whoever. In 2015 you had about 4 OLB/edge rushers at the top of the class, and most draft people were flip flopping their order throughout the draft process. This year there’s Bosa and Spence at the top, and that’s really it. I think all the other 1st rd LBs are best suited off the ball. Guys like Myles Jack, Jaylon Smith, and Leonard Floyd. I don’t see them on the edge at the NFL level. There’s even rumors of Spence being drafted before Bosa, which really wouldn’t surprise me. I think a player like Clemson’s Kevin Dodd is more in our range if we’re looking for an edge rusher in the 1st rd.

    Curious, Alex, did you watch any of his 2013 film at Ohio St?

  • Steve Johnson

    Would love to see this kid in Black N Gold. However, too many Red Flags. Just imagine what he will do when he gets paid. Too much of a risk in the 1st, Martavis Bryant all over again.

  • CP72

    Yeah Yannick and the Boise State kid are interesting.

  • WreckIess

    They’d be dumb to pass up on him if he falls. He shows almost everything you want to see in a young pass rusher and at 22 years old he still has a lot of time to grow.

    The defense is devoid of young pass rushers outside and with how weak this OLB draft class is there’s no guarantee that guys like Ogbah, Calhoun, or Dodd would even be there in the 2nd. Pair him with Dupree and you have two of the most freakish OLB combos in the league.

  • Bill Sechrengost

    Agreed. I would think that either Ngakoue or Correa might both be available in the third round, second if they do well at the combine.

  • PittsburghSports

    You know, I’m sure a lot of people get scared off by the word ecstasy, and no doubt we’re talking about methamphetamine. It’s a hard drug. I would be much more concerned about a guy like Martavis Bryant smoking weed. I have no idea what Spence’s history is though, and maybe he smokes weed too, drinks, parties, whatever. There is a huge difference between weed and other drugs, and I think society is catching up to that, as weed is legal in some places and about as common as nicotine, alcohol and energy drinks, depending on where and who you hangout with lol, but the NFL hasn’t caught up, and we know all too well with Bryant’s suspension last year. If I had to bet on the two, I think it’s much more probable a guy smokes a joint after practice to relax, than it is for him to get all junked out on ecstasy.

  • thomas hmmmm

    I am willing to bet that this guy falls out of the 1st round due to his drug history.. He might be a great second round pick…

  • The Chin

    I was at the Ky game. He was unblockable at times. But Ky OL was poor all around. Guy next to us said ” we can’t even block a kid from EKU”. Lol

  • superfan

    Martavis Bryant all over again? Please…sign me up for that! Remember, Von Miller was suspended for 6 games.

  • PittsburghSports

    I think the Dee Ford, speed-player only, comparison was Alex’s initial thoughts, but were dispelled the more he watched him and could see his ability to counter. Could be wrong.

  • PittsburghSports

    lol right. I’ll take a problem like Bryant in every draft, no matter what round.

  • PittsburghSports

    I’ll take that bet. Loser has to change his profile pic to Burfict for the entire 2016 season. Deal?

  • steelburg

    I’m a huge fan of Noah Spence I think he is the best 3-4 OLB in this draft hands down. He reminds me of Jason Worilds in his last 2 years with the team I feel like he can come in and give you 7-8 sacks right from the start. Just like Worilds he isn’t great at setting the edge but I’m less concerned about that because the staff has done a great job on teaching OLB to play the run. I just hope he slides because he seems to be rising up boards.

  • Anton Smolka

    If Spence is available, I hope we get him. The combo of Bud Dupree and Noah Spence will be deadly when both develop and gain experience.

  • Tom Jackson

    He is WAY more athleric then Worlids ever was. Bad comp.

  • RickM

    I can’t see him falling, but I’d roll the dice 100% if he’s available. The draft’s a crapshoot at the best of times, even in the first round. You can have a guy as clean as a whistle in college screw up in the pros and vice versa. His comment earlier this month was “Come put a camera in my house. I’m not doing anything. Fear? Yes, fear plays a part in this. There’s fear of not realizing my dream.”

    No one wanted to touch Tyrann Mathieu or Janoris Jenkins and they were draft steals. The big money in the NFL and overall maturity in most cases kicks in with these type of players. Given the Steelers’ desperate need for edge pressure, run to the podium if he’s available. But I think he’ll be long-gone by 25.

  • Michael James

    If he’s available and he turned out to be a somewhat reasonable kid during interviews, we just have to take him. As a football player this guy is a machine and has tons of upside. Spence and Dupree as our edge rushing duo for the future sure doesn’t sound bad (and they are both so young!).

  • thomas hmmmm

    LOL… Sure I will take that bet. This guy is projected as a mid first, so he doesn’t have the pedigree of say a Randy Gregory who was a projected top 5 pick based on talent. His marijuana issue caused him to drop to the end of the second. Not only that but ecstasy which is way different than marijuana, causes long term effects. I imagine teams will be giving him an MRI as part of the medical evaluation to see what kind of holes he has in his head because of taking ecstasy.

  • thomas hmmmm

    People forget last season we could have had another top 5 pick last season in the second round if we wanted. Randy Gregory was projected to be a Top 5 pick and fell to the 28th pick of 2nd round.. Gregory’s “issue” was only marijuana.. This kid is taking ecstasy which has a lot more long term side effects.. If the NFL is concerned about “Head trauma” and getting sued by players then this guy is going to have to get a brain scan done before the draft to see how many holes are already in his head.

  • PittsburghSports

    Haha MRI. Too funny. It’s a deal. Don’t forget.

  • thomas hmmmm

    I say if they had Randy Gregory last year as a DND who was better and had a lesser drug problem.. Then yea.. We could have had both Gregory and Dupree in last years draft.

  • thomas hmmmm

    I am willing to bet he will have to get one.. Ecstasy causes lesions on the brain.. The NFL has been getting sued for brain injuries… I am almost willing to bet that the NFL’s insurance companies will ask for this guy to get an MRI to see if he has lesions and where at. Then whatever contract he has will be special, and have a clause in it about whatever brain trauma he has.

  • harding36

    I like his play a lot. But I’ll be stunned if he’s selected by the Steelers; I suspect he won’t even be on their board.

  • Michael James

    Spence is supposedly clean since 2014 and the people at Eastern Kentucky have stated that he is a high character guy and never wants to go back to ecstasy or other drugs.
    Gregory on the other hand had many more off the field issues than only drugs (reports surfaced that he might be bipolar etc.) and was never clean. Heck, he was high during the combine, how stupid is that?

  • harding36

    Agreed. I wouldn’t even be too concerned about a guy taking ecstasy every now and then. It’s a party drug, and Spence isn’t the only one. But as I recall, his issues are deeper than that, and seem to involve a possible drinking problem as well.

  • RickM

    I don’t see Gregory as comparable to Spence. Gregory had a drug issue, but he also had a major playing weight issue that scared teams off. I don’t like the use of ecstasy, but Cris Carter failed three drug tests in college and he said he used marijuana and ecstasy. And he’s in the Hall of Fame. There’s not a lot of middle ground on this issue. I would absolutely take Spence; you wouldn’t. I respect that.

  • Birdman

    He’s not on the Steelers 1st round board. Wonder if they’ll even give him him a 2nd round grade?

    One heck of a talent though.

  • RickM

    Good points. I only recalled the discussions about playing weight, but you’re right.

  • Alex Kozora

    Yeah I still see a little of Ford in Spence but less over time. Part of that comp was actually a personal thing too that I should’ve specified. One of the first plays I ever watched of Dee Ford was a strip sack, like Spence. And then the tape kind of went downhill from there.

  • Alex Kozora

    I believe Luc will be doing a profile on him very soon.

  • Alex Kozora

    Yeah probably but when there’s a will, there’s a way to get drugs. Look at heroin. Doesn’t get much worse of a drug than that but it is everywhere.

  • Alex Kozora

    I did not. The games listed are the ones I watched.

  • Richard

    ecstasy is not methamphetamine two totally different things

  • Alex Kozora

    You’ve seen their board? Please, do tell.

  • blackandgoldBullion

    If I may interject, please. I certainly do NOT want to see Burficts face or butt or anything around here anywhere. I would just as soon wait until some bomber blows up his ass to hear about him again. Please change your bet to a bear or some thing else. I will thank you in advance for seeing the light, gentlemen.

  • PittsburghSports

    That’s a whole different ball game, man. Can’t compare heroin to anything.

  • PittsburghSports

    There’s a few of them on draft breakdown. Worth the watch for sure. He’s younger, goes up against better competition, and there’s the added bonus of watching Shazier and Grant on the field too lol.

  • thomas hmmmm

    Ecstasy causes long term effects on the brain.. The NFL’s insurance company will be hesitant to want this guy who might already have brain damage caused by his ecstasy use. I would be highly surprised if they don’t make all the players get MRI’s as part of the medical evaluation

  • PittsburghSports

    Well I’m not positive of the exact science of it, but there’s a form of it in there. MDMA (contracted from 3,4-methylenedioxy-methamphetamine). It’s like the pseudoephedrine in cold medicines that people use to make meth.

  • PittsburghSports

    lol true. Maybe we can come up with an alternate pic that’s just as humiliating.

  • thomas hmmmm

    I didn’t say I wouldn’t take him.. I just wouldn’t take him in the 1st.. If he fell to the 2nd I might take him, depends on who is there..

  • Tom Jackson

    We know so little about every detail surrounding the Noah Spence story. Teams do a tremendous amount of backround checks, psychological exams and what not. How bad those problems are Spence is dealing with or dealt with we have no idea.

    Therefore this kind of post is incrediblely premature. I’m sure more about this will surface before the draft as insiders get hints or even direct inside information how teams feel about Spences situation. Right now theres not much out there for regular people to go through so your statement right now makes no sence.

  • PittsburghSports

    lol I already got you for one bet. I don’t know about lesions, but I’m pretty sure Spence is not addicted to ecstasy to the point where he’s sustaining long term effects, or else he probably wouldn’t be able to handle the rigors of collegiate football. I don’t think he’s a Manziel either, that’s going to make a bunch of dumb decisions. Who knows though. All we have for now is our opinions. And our bet 😉

  • RickM

    According to the Mayo Clinic 14 months ago, there is currently no definitive test for CTE while a person is alive, and that includes MRI’s. The hope at that time was that a string of neurological tests, brain imaging, etc. could be developed long-term. A couple of other CTE-specific places have also confirmed that only a post-mortem can identify the disease. If I’m wrong and a new technique has been developed, by all means correct me.

  • RickM

    My initial comment was specific to the 1st round and the 25th draft spot. I assumed that was what you were commenting on. If you were talking about later rounds, fine. Thanks for the chat.

  • kdubs412

    I feel unpleasantly confident that if teams are convinced his drug problems are behind him, you’re looking at the Ravens next great pass rusher (ugh).

  • Tom Jackson

    Hey right now we know close to nothing about the circumstances surrounding this issue. Maybe he did ecstasy for a short time in small doses. Or maybe he did it throughout college and went through major problems. We have zero idea how bad those issues are and it’s premature now to say this guy has unsolvable problems and he should get taken off the board because of it. As it is saying ‘I would run to the podium at 25 to get him no matter what’. I mean this guy could already face some health issues because of his drug abuse.

    My point is we just don’t know right now.

  • RickM

    Gosh I hadn’t even thought about them. Most mocks seem to be suggesting that they’ll address their secondary with Jalen Ramsey. But who knows.

  • thomas hmmmm

    True we don’t know and drugs effect every person differently but I am betting that he falls out of the 1st round and the Steelers will not draft him. If he fell to us in the second I would be fine with taking him but I wouldn’t take him in the 1st.

  • steelburg

    I disagree. Jason Worilds combine numbers are listed below I expect Noah Spence to have slightly better numbers. I do think Spence is more athletic but just slightly. But I also think that Spence is now what Worilds was after 5 years in the league. So I do think he will be a better player.

    HT: 6’1″ WT: 254LBS.
    ARM LENGTH: 32 7/8″
    HANDS: 9 1/4″
    COMBINE RESULTS
    40 YARD DASH: 4.72 SEC VERTICAL JUMP: 38.0 INCH
    3 CONE DRILL: 6.95 SEC
    20 YARD SHUTTLE: 4.29 SEC

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    In my dream of dreams we draft Noah Spence and Mackenzie Alexander in rounds one and two plus a little sprinkle of Eric Weddle in free agency! *sigh*

  • Tom Jackson

    Yeah I mean thats very possible. I don’t know much about the longterm effects ecstasy has on your body. Or even short term effects as they can be pretty bad with some drugs as well. You definitly seem way more informed about it then I am so I couldn’t tell you how much it should drop him…

  • PittsburghSports

    Ha, yeah I just saw that this morning on SI’s 2 rd mock draft.

  • LucasY59

    The 2nd to last sentence says a lot “…weak this edge class is” I think because of lack of elite talent his stock is inflated (kinda like the TE position in this draft) I wouldn’t hate him as the 1st rd pick, but I think there will be safer picks available (and he might not even be BPA) I think he should be available at 25 (but someone will reach for him sooner)

    If he had a more polished pass rush skill set (not just relying mainly on speed) and was more solid against the run, he would be what everyone is projecting him to be (he has the potential, but it isnt there yet)

    him playing against lower level competition is another reason I have my doubts with him (usually I dont knock a player too much because of where he played, and like finding the diamond in the rough small school guys) but there are two things that make the case different with Spence

    1. he dropped from the Big 10 (where he had success) and didnt put up much better stats against the lower competition (I would expect him to blow up at that level and have close to 20 sacks, if he is as great of a pass rusher as he is supposed to be) he didnt even lead the FCS, Tyrone Holmes (the FCS Defensive POY from MT) had 14.5 sacks at that level, and I have him as a 7th rd or UDFA target, which brings me to the 2nd point

    2. Diamonds in the Rough dont cost 1st rd picks. (he seems to be more of a rough in the rough prospect) If he had one incident at Ohio St, cleaned himself up and continued to do well in the Big 10 for the rest of his college career than I would be all for him as the 1st rd pick (its kinda obvious then) but with the issues I see, I am going to hope there is a better player available and pass on Spence

    I also think there are some other prospects available later that will have more value

    I already mentioned Holmes, who I think could be a good sub package rotational pass rusher to start and could develop into a decent base OLB also, but they kinda already have Chick as that type of player, so maybe if Holmes goes Undrafted they can sign him and put him on the PS to see if he can develop)

    Kalamai Correa is another guy I am really interested in, that could be a candidate for the 2nd rd pick (still a big guess this far out, as to what rd he will actually go)

    I am also looking for some guys that arent as typical of edge rushing prospects that the Steelers tradionally look for, I think looking at 4-3 DEs might be a good idea (with the lack of 3-4 OLB edge rushers in this draft, and the use of Sub Package more I think those types of players could be useful on the team) there was a lot of talk about “Elephant” players last season and I think that having guys that fit niches in non traditional defensive schemes could help the Steelers D.

  • John

    Absolutely not. You cannot take the risk unless you know he will be awesome AND he has already completed a full drug and alcohol program plus he is on his way to being multiple years clean. I do not see that from the report. His past looks like Johnny Manziel but worse.

    I hope it works out for him somewhere else though.

  • Addison

    If this guy is there I would say you have to take him… But I feel like this is the year to get a Safety or a TE. 2nd round hide a Woodley

  • LucasY59

    how young is Spence? it seems with the yr off (from being banned) that he is at least 4 yrs out of high school and might even be 5? He declared for the draft early (because he still had one more year of eligibility) but is probably 23 yrs old (maybe 22) so not that young. 3rd yr Jrs and rsSo are the young prospects that are usually around 21, 2 yrs isnt a huge difference, but it could be 2 extra yrs of a player in their prime *I think Dupree was also an older early entry (rsJR) into the Draft (but might be the same age as Spence?)

  • steelburg

    That’s my concern also he has a pretty serious drug history and there are a lot of people in his corner vouching for him. But the reality is he is a player that this franchise very rarely takes a chance on.

  • Aj Gentile

    They have been willing to take players with some issues. Just not in the first round. Hopefully spence is there and changes that.

  • taztroy43

    Ochi in the 2nd or 3rd anyone?

  • RickM

    You make some good points re: the sack total at Eastern Kentucky especially. I just place a lot of credence in what Mike Mayock thinks and he has him rated 2nd behind Bosa at that position and ahead of Shaq Lawson. Bucky Brooks, another analyst, said 10 days ago that Spence reminded him of the Von Miller that he saw at the Senior Bowl several years ago and he feels Spence will be a Top 15 pick if he interviews well.

    All these guys are just analysts and we can find hundreds of different opinions about Spence. I just think with the Steelers’ desperate need for edge pressure, he’d be very difficult to pass up at 25. But we”l find out in several months. It’ll be interesting to see if they have him in for a pre-draft visit.

  • LucasY59

    I agree Mayock is the opinion I respect the most, but I just have a feeling about him (which holds nothing to the in-depth research a lot of Scouts will do) that he is a bit too much of a risk.

    I also am not that impressed with Lawson (or any pass rusher other than Bosa, who isnt in the discussion because he is a top 5 pick) in the 1st

  • popsiclesticks

    I’d rather take a guy who took ecstasy than one with weed issues. I’ve met people who can’t start their day without weed, and it’s easy to get. I’ve never met anybody who couldn’t start their day without ecstasy.

  • Birdman

    The Steelers gave a similar player by them name of Marcus Peters a 2nd round grade last year(source: J i m W e x e l l). You’re lying to yourself if you think this team takes a player that was kicked off his team cause of drug use in round 1. If he was there in round 2 the maybe they’ll take a chance.

  • Birdman

    They had no interest in Peters last year so they’ll have no interest in Spence this year.

  • Tom Jackson

    And you know they didn’t want Peters because…

  • Ike Evans

    Why do i have a feeling they take nkemdiche smh

  • RickM

    It wouldn’t surprise me if Baltimore at #6 tried to trade up for Bosa if he’s still available at #4 or #5. I thoroughly enjoyed their bad year, but I don’t enjoy the thought of their high draft position lol.

  • Ike Evans

    Well…..he did go to ohio state lol

  • Birdman

    Don’t think Ramsey will get past the Cowboys, which is great, I don’t want him nowhere near the Ravens lol.

  • Michael James

    He’s 21 or 22, birthyear is 1994. Dupree has birthday today, turned 23.

  • LucasY59

    so avg age of college senior…

    I do see your point of having two (potentially) good pass rushers under the age of 25, but when I am looking at draft prospects I dont think of Spence as being a young guy (comparing him to Deebo its obvious) but compared to another draftable rookie Andrew Billings (who just turned 20) he isnt really that young.

  • LucasY59

    That is the Bad (or Good) thing about the Steelers, the worst seasons they have, still result in them picking in the mid teens at the earliest.

    Its a little frustrating that they never have a chance at the (suposedly Elite) top 5 Talents (or even top 10)

    the ratbirds had to suffer though a miserable season (but they somehow beat the Steelers both times???) they get the benefit of getting a chance to draft Jalen Ramsey, Vernon Hargreaves, or possibly Bosa

  • chris ward

    Remember watching Noah Spence in high school.

  • Birdman

    Wex ell(remove space between the x & e, can’t comment without it) had this to say, perfect explantion. “They had a second round grade on him because they weren’t going to introduce him, give him a jersey in front of a bank of cameras, and then listen to him explain why he was kicked off his college team”

  • Tom Jackson

    Well what shoud I say to this? I never heard this story before. We don’t know if Jim really heard that 1st hand or if it was just rumblings he heard from people not fully involved. I don’t know if the current regime in the organisation has the rule for themselfs that the day 1 guy has to be absolutly clean off the field.

    To me this quote isn’t enough to make the assumption that Spence has no chance to get taken by us at 25. Although I at least understand from where you comming from. Without the quote your first two comments just left me scratching my head tbh.

  • RickM

    My fear is that they trade up even higher to get Bosa. I think they’re a little too savvy to draft that high and get a bust…but yeah, here’s hoping.

  • LucasY59

    looks like we can only hope that the guys they want at 6 are already taken and they are stuck with a OL, or reaching for someone else, but I think with a QB and a LT being picked before them, and them needing WR, OLB, or DB they will unfortunately get a player they really like.

  • LucasY59

    that wouldve been fine if they were able to say this is the future Defensive Rookie of the Year.

    but he was gone before the Steelers picked so its kinda a non-issue

  • George Kroger

    I wouldn’t worry too much about the ravens. There defense is REALLY bad, especially on the back end and their receivers are replacement level. It will take them another 2-3 years to build their team back up to their recent standard of success.

    Cincy is the new division rival/enemy! The games next year will be nasty (to say the least).

  • Ivor Biggun

    Ecstacy is not addictive in itself but as a traditional accompanyment to partying it can be hard to give up. Problem users need to stop partying altogether, but many people don’t have a problem stopping when they grow up a bit. My thesis topic (back in the 90’s though).

  • Steve Johnson

    In every draft? Possibly. No matter what Rd? I can’t agree with you there, and I’m sure the Front Office feels the same way.

  • PittsburghSports

    With Bryant’s production? I bet there’s a lot of teams that would go back and draft Bryant in rd 1 of that draft, even knowing his future issues.

  • LucasY59

    two picks (at 6 and 37) will help their D (a lot more than two at 25 and 49 will for the Steelers)

    I agree Cinci is the main competition for the AFC North, but the Ratbirds won both of the games last season (so I wont write them off as no longer being rivals yet)

  • Ask Questions Later

    I agree with you Alex on the edge rushing class. Not as good as last year’s sadly. Outside of Bosa, Ogbah and Spence, hit or miss is very high.

  • Ask Questions Later

    I would agree with you except that Joey Bosa exists in this draft. Can be either a 4-3 DE, DT, or 3-4 OLB.

  • Ask Questions Later

    That’s what I stated about Floyd. If anything, have him be a mike in a 3-4 scheme.

  • PittsburghSports

    Yeah the only thing about that is some are saying Floyd struggled in 2015 playing off the ball. Hesitant.

  • Ju

    And………….. Peters is DROY. –‘

  • PittsburghSports

    By Tony Pauline

    Eastern Kentucky workout for Noah Spence

    “The workout finished just a little while ago, and Noah Spence completed the 40 as well as position drills. Almost 40 scouts from 24 different teams were on hand.

    Times for Spence ranged in the high 4.6s to 4.77 on a wet field in 37-degree temperature. Tampa Bay Bucs defensive line coach Jay Hayes ran the workout, and the early reports are Spence was impressive.”

  • Superdriller316

    Jon over at DraftWire put up an article stating the Steelers have “shown a ton of interest” in Spence throughout the pre-draft process. Is this a smokescreen, is there some fire there, or just due diligence?

    Would the Steelers pull the trigger at 25 on Spence? He’s been clean and has been tested weekly for the past what, 2 years. Do you take the gamble?