2017 South Side Questions: Was Tomlin Wrong To Leave Big Ben In Late?

The regular season is now over, and the Pittsburgh Steelers are taking their practices at the UPMC Rooney Sports Complex, formerly known and still referred to as the ‘South Side’ facility of Heinz Field. While the postseason is now upon us, there is plenty left to be done.

And there are plenty of questions left unanswered as well. The offseason is just really the beginning phase of the answer-seeking process, which is lasts all the way through the Super Bowl for teams fortunate enough to reach that far.

You can rest assured that we have the questions, and we will be monitoring the developments in the playoffs as they develop, and beyond, looking for the answers as we look to evaluate the makeup of the Steelers as they try to navigate their way back to playoff success, in which they are, at least supposed to be, among the favorites to win the Super Bowl.

Question: Was Mike Tomlin wrong to leave Ben Roethlisberger in the game with a 24-point lead?

The Steelers haven’t had that much success in recent years in terms of dominating their playoff opponents. The last time they recorded a margin of victory of two possessions was back during the 2008 season, when they beat the Ravens 23-14 in the AFC Conference Championship.

Yesterday, they beat the Dolphins by a score of 30-12, an 18-point, three-possession victory. The last time the Steeler managed to do that? The 1996 Wildcard victory over the Colts, a 42-14 stomping. But it was also the 10th playoff victory—of 35 playoff victories—that they won by at least 18 points.

The point here, however, is the fact that the Steelers don’t have all that much experience winning by a lot of points in the postseason. This was the first 18-point victory in the Roethlisberger era, though the Steelers did win two games during the 2005 run by at least two touchdowns.

The Steelers scored their fourth touchdown of the game with about two minutes left to play in the fourth quarter. At that time, they held a 30-6 lead, winning by 24 points. But it didn’t exactly appear that Mike Tomlin gave any real consideration to pulling any of his starters by then.

The Dolphins pitched a four-and-out on the ensuing drive and the Steelers offense had the ball back by the last play of the third quarter, their starters still in. Le’Veon Bell was still in the game even later with 11 minutes to play.

When the Steelers got the ball back with about six minutes to play, after the Dolphins scored, Bell went to the sideline, but he was the only starter to sit. Antonio Brown even fielded the onside kick.

He was on the field for their final offensive play of the game before the kneel down, when Roethlisberger took a hit throwing an interception. The quarterback injured his ankle and was in a walking boot after the game. Tomlin sat Bell by that point, but not Brown, and not Roethlisberger. It is easy to say in hindsight that that was a mistake, but was it wrong? Or was it just bad luck?

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  • Abed Medawar

    Yes it was wrong and I was pissed it was happening at the time. It was also missed opportunities to get others some playoff snaps. Ben should never have attempted a pass late, worst case u punt and pin and make them drive long fields.

  • kevin Duffin

    I’d say it was a bit of bad luck. I also thought Ben should have been more wary of the situation rather than trying to do his thing and try to make something happen schoolyard style. Throw it away or slide. Unfortunate. Hopefully it doesn’t hinder him moving forward.

  • WreckIess

    I said it in the article, but it’s both of their faults. Tomlin should’ve taken him out of the situation, but Ben has to realize that you can’t always superman. Trust your weapons and dump it down.

  • Paddy

    Noll never took out TB just told him to hand it to Franco or Rocky


    Some fault lies with all 3 imo…Tomlin, no need to have Ben in there are that point. Haley, why aren’t you just running the ball. Ben, c’mon man the game is over, why are you trying to make a play there? 1st read not open, get rid of it, don’t take the hit.

  • pittsburghjoe

    I was screaming to take him out. There was no upside. The game was won. It’s risk management. It’s the same logic as keeping him out of the Bengals game. I don’t think Tomlin is a very smart coach in all situations.

  • will

    Matt……great article to support BRADSHAW. Did not think you had it in you!

  • RickM

    If the Head Coach felt it necessary to gamble with the health of the 2 remaining B’s it was so incredibly simple to protect them. He just had to instruct his QB and OC to only run the ball on the final drive or two, and he could tell AB to fair catch any punt or he could replace him with Ayers. None of these simple instructions was given with the game won. And the three very healthy B’s lasted all of one playoff game.

  • steelburg

    This is also how I feel about it. Ben has to be smarter and I felt like once Tomlin took Bell out there was no reason for him not to take AB and Ben out. In all honesty I don’t think Ben is hurt at all he plays these things up to the fullest. When you think about it it’s really smart of him IMO. The media will talk all week about how he has that boot on and I think unconsciously and not on purpose the Cheifs will start to buy into that a little bit.

  • The Tony

    Halfback draw would have been nice

  • SteelerFanInMD

    Ben should have better awareness of how to protect himself when he has a big lead. He should have thrown the ball away or just go down to avoid injury when the play doesn’t go as planned. He should also not throw an interception!

  • WreckIess

    I think he’s hurt, but it’s just not all that serious. Now will him milk that injury? Most definitely. And he should because, like you said, it could be somewhat of a distraction for KC and after everything that happened yesterday we need them to be somewhat distracted too.

  • No other QBs were pulled from they’re land slide victories this weekend. Rodgers and Wilson were both throwing on first down late in their games up multiple scores. This is rediculous that Steeler Nation has all of a sudden decided to be pansies. This is a big boy sport, if you can’t take the heat maybe you belong in the kitchen.

    I’m not part of this hive mind all of a sudden that wants to play scared like last week against the Browns and in the 4th quarter against the Dolphins.

    Most of the time we are complaining they don’t step an opponents throat and put the game away in the 4th. Sorry I didn’t get the memo that we flipped on this.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    yes. next question.

  • Brendan

    I was more upset that Bell was getting carries in the 4th quarter. It’s like Tomlin and Haley have completely forgotten they have the best backup RB in football.

  • greeny

    YES. My family was texting me about going to KC. There were 8 minutes left at that point. My response was we need to get the killer Bs hurt first. This isn’t much of a story now with Joey Porter. This kind of noise DOES NOT happen in NE. Thanks for staying focused on distractions Pittsburgh!

  • Xclewsive

    What’s a big Steelers game without Ben being injured? I believe the biggest flaw was throwing the ball, but Ben has to take accountability as well. Ben seems more reckless and his decision making leaves a lot to be desired.

    The Steelers have to have some sort of adversity every game. They beat KC pretty thoroughly so they have to something to keep them motivated throughout the week.

  • Steel Realist PAul

    Everyone in the room was yelling for them to bring in Deangelo. If Ben stayed in, he should just have been handing the ball off, not dropping back at all.

    This was a mistake that looks like it may have caused an injury. Hopefully nothing serious, but didn’t make much sense at the time.

  • Steven

    Once we where up in the 4th. I said pull Bell and Brown. Nether expected Ben to come out because he just doesn’t like to. Yes Tomlin should tell him but Ben being Ben gets to take the responsibility.

  • 2020_Vision

    Steelers Nation are not pansies. Its just the chance for the Western Pennsylvania Steelers Fan Base to throw shade at Coach Tomlin!! I don’t know why he is not accepted, but before he’s gone will be the Steelers All-Time Winningest Coach!! Regular Season, Playoffs & Super Bowls!!!

  • steelburg

    I agree. Hopefully that will take away from the how do you feel about your coach being arrested questions lol. As we speak I just saw a report that said Ben’s injured ankle checks out ok.

  • WreckIess

    According to Rapoport, the ankle is just a small sprain. So pretty much no harm, no foul. Hopefully the media can move on so that this doesn’t become more of an issue this week. The team played a great game yesterday and hopefully that can become the focus this week.

  • Sam Scalleat

    As a fan who was at the game, it made no sense as to why they threw the ball instead of handing it off to D-will and punting the ball. That being said Roethlisberger should have known to just slide down and give himself up instead of scramble and force a pass. I know he’s a competitive guy who wants to make a play, but you have to know that at point it does not matter for the game. I can only hope it’s not serious or doesn’t seriously limit his mobility against KC.

  • falconsaftey43

    No it was not. It’s the playoffs, you don’t pull your QB until it is 100% won. (But they pulled Bell! yeah because Williams is a really good RB (Jones is not a really good QB) and Ben should be smart enough to know to throw the ball away if nothing is there and not take the hit/throw an INT in that situation). No other team pulled their QB, where is the outrage in those cities?

    Ben last throw 4:34 left up 18
    Osweiler last throw 6:39 left up 13
    Rogers last throw 3:52 left up 18
    Wilson last throw 3:43 left up 13

  • Steve

    Noll took Terry out and Terry was BOO’ed out of the stadium.

  • Milliken Steeler

    What? lol Superbowls? Okay, while I’m not throwing shade on Tomlin, he already lost one, so he’ll never be 4-0. The odds are, he isn’t going to win four Super bowls either. Would it be nice? Of course, I’m just trying to be realistic.

  • Rocksolid20

    My thoughts exactly , his mobility is needed against KC

  • Rocksolid20

    So Ben’s ankle injury makes it ok because some others left their QB in ? I don’t get it .

  • falconsaftey43

    Everyone is saying it was the wrong decision because Ben got hurt. No one in any of these other cities are complaining about how late their QBs played with the “game won” because there wasn’t an injury. Can’t use hind sight and say it was wrong decision because of what happened. What if they pulled Ben and Jones throws a pick 6 and all of a sudden it’s a 10 pt game with 4:25 left? Onside kick and a scoring drive in a couple minutes and it’s 3 pt game with a couple minutes left… Everyone would be saying how dumb it was to put Jones in there. We can what if forever. Bottom line is teams don’t put backup QBs in playoff games unless it’s 100% over. No team does it.

  • Ryan Alderman

    I remember when they pulled Bell, had Ben in the game, and I was okay with it ONLY in the sense that I was thinking well, he can’t get hurt just handing the ball off a few times to grind the clock, right? Then he goes back to pass, steps up, holds the ball way too long, throws the pick, hurts the ankle, and an otherwise wonderfurmus Steeler win turns into a dark cloud of uncertainty yet again. Yeah, I’m pissed about it, too, can’t lie. Made no sense at all, none, to keep him in there throwing passes with that game well in hand. None.

  • Ryan Alderman

    I agree Ben should have been more weary of the situation on that play, however, being that he WAS in the game. Very good point.

  • Ryan Alderman

    Wasn’t there a series before the one he got hurt on, too, where they could have run a few times to grind the clock and instead had a few incompletions, quick three and out type, that also was puzzling to say the least? Why they didn’t just line up and pound Toussaint or Williams in there a bit to keep Ben and AB healthy against a beaten team I’ll never know. At that point, WHO CARES if they get first downs anyway.

  • Ryan Alderman

    If that’s the case, then, yes, no harm, no foul. Still sometimes these guys need to be protected from themselves. That’s Tomlin’s responsibility to do that.

  • Ryan Alderman

    Well said on both points.

  • Ryan Alderman

    Stranger things have happened, but if you’re really trying to ice the game why are you throwing incompletions with 4:34 left up 18 anyway? And with a defense playing lights out. Somewhere Bill Cowher had to have been watching this game groaning.

  • capehouse

    They took Bell out to rest him and prevent injury so yeah it was a mistake to leave Ben and AB out there. It’s mostly Tomlin’s fault but Haley and Ben need to be smarter with the play call and not put themselves in a position to get hurt on meaningless plays. Just a dumb series of events that was easily preventable and just about the entire world that was watching the game was screaming for them to be removed from the game but as we’ve seen countless times in the Tomlin era he makes these against the grain decisions. Hopefully Ben doesn’t miss too much time this week preparing but I bet that ankle is stiff this morning and we all know how well Ben plays with injuries.

  • falconsaftey43

    Obviously the goal isn’t to throw an incompletion, but if it’s not there don’t scramble around etc. you’re up, live to play another down and throw it away.

  • falconsaftey43

    “Against the grain?” literally every other playoff team did the same thing this weekend.

  • Big White

    You don’t want to finish the game flat and I truly think Tomlin was trying to send a message to KC basically to the tune of “look what we just did to Miami by a decisive margin and you’re next”. It’s just a guess buy my gut is usually pretty good about these things. I think the mistake was really by Ben, if its not there throw it away and move on. Ben being the competitor he is, tried to turn lemons into lemonade. We all know that with Ben you take the chaos with the greatness and yesterday was another perfect example. I will agree with Tomlin, that with an 18 point lead after an opposing touchdown, you don’t want to march out the reserves and Miami close the gap to say 30-19 or even 30-26 and limp across the finish line. Mo’mentum is a big deal when you are about to go to KC. I’ll gladly lay down my guns if the other team will do the same with 10 minutes to play.

  • falconsaftey43

    Thank you. I 100% agree with you. You can’t just throw backups out there with 6 minutes left to play. A team can score on one play.

  • Hypo Cycloid

    It was 100℅ over. They needed 3 scores with 4.5 min. Left. And 2 time outs. That means they need to convert 2 onside kicks in there at a 7% chance of success each. This gives them down near a 1% chance of converting both. If that happened they would have 1.5 minutes per scoring drive. If they didn’t convert 1 onside kick, we would take both of their time outs and kill about 50 seconds, leaving them with about a minute and ten seconds with no time outs per scoring drive. This game was over. I firmly believe that the odds of getting Ben or AB hurt were FAR greater than the Fins being able to come back.

  • popsiclesticks

    I would have taken Ben out, I think, but most coaches would not have. In the 4th quarter of the 45-10 win v. the Tebow Broncos, Brady was out there throwing with 4 minutes left. Aaron Rodgers was throwing with 4 minutes left yesterday. Coaches just don’t seem to take QBs out in playoff blowouts.

  • Hypo Cycloid

    This is simply pointing out a bad decision by Tomlin. This isn’t “throwing shade”. I call out a mistake when I see one. I’m not trying to dog Tomlin.

  • Hypo Cycloid

    We did put the game away in the 4th! It was over.

  • popsiclesticks

    Pretty much. Bill Belichick had Brady throwing with 4 minutes left against the Broncos in 2011 up 45-10.

  • popsiclesticks

    3rd and 9 at IND 39
    (5:58 – 4th) (Shotgun) T.Brady pass incomplete deep right to B.LaFell [C.Redding].

    That’s from the 4th quarter of the 2014 Patriots-Colts AFC championship game. Score: 45-7

    Every coach does this every weekend as well, it seems.

  • Hypo Cycloid

    Not every coach does it, but it is wrong regardless.

  • capehouse

    Well it’s unfair to only judge this one situation over this weekend. I said “Tomlin era”. I’m talking about decisions over a 10 year period such as his 2 point tries and clock management that don’t always seem to be a popular choice. Not knocking him for it. Just saying that’s who he is. It’s not a stretch of the imagination to say just about everyone was calling for Ben to ride the pine right before the injury occurred.

  • falconsaftey43

    Jones in a 5:55 minutes left (start of drive after Dolphin’s last score with failed on side attempt). Bobbles snap, fumbled, Dolphins return for a TD. Onside kick, take 3 minutes to go score. That’s 3 minutes left with a 3 point game…Most likely scenario, no, but the game was not over.

  • falconsaftey43

    Not disagreeing Tomlin makes mistakes (especially time management) but for this specific type of scenario (leading in a playoff game) most coaches don’t pull their QB.

  • falconsaftey43

    And what would you say if Jones started that drive and threw a pick six with 5 minutes left in the game? 10 point game with 5 minutes left isn’t exactly a clinched game. Why not just pull the starters after the half? 20-6 lead. It’s a 2 TD lead could put in the backups and only put Ben-Bell-AB back in if the Dolphins cut it to a one score lead. Obviously I’m being sarcastic, but where do you draw the line that “this game is over”?

  • capehouse

    Well everyone was calling for Ben to be benched the drive before, and I didn’t think that was the right decision, and that he should be left in the game, but the next drive when they took Bell out and I saw Ben still in there, I just knew something bad was about to happen and that third-down play was like in slow motion and you could just see the injury unfold. It should’ve been a screenplay or a draw but whoever’s responsible for Ben stepping back in the pocket like that made a reckless decision.

  • He’s go a long way to go on SBs.

  • WreckIess

    Agreed to an extent. Yes Tomlin needs to keep him out of unnecessary situations where he can get hurt, but at the same thing me, Ben has been a pro for 13 years and he really shouldn’t need someone to teach him how to protect himself. The play call was pretty safe. Short drop with some shallow crossing routes underneath. All he had to do was hit Ayers quickly and everything Is fine.

  • falconsaftey43

    Play call, I’ll agree with. Haley and Ben need to understand that it should be a safe play and throw it away if it’s not there.

  • Donte Williams

    thank you thank you thank you falconsaftey43 got D**M someone who is thinking like me i was just thinking this while sitting here reading these post like Packers Seahawks nor Texans took their QB or starters out and you just broke down why I am not mad that they didnt take Ben out by breaking down the what IFs thank you sir Im pretty sure no one would be B’in if Ben was never hit or he threw a 70 yard bomb on that drive

  • falconsaftey43

    Exactly, I had the hind-sight garbage. We question decisions based on outcomes. Just like trick plays or going for 2 etc. Great call if it works, terrible if it doesn’t.

  • Donte Williams

    and like Tomlin always says I DON’T LIVE IN MY FEARS… the steelers are off to the divisional round at arrowhead lets enjoy the win and get ready for them Chiefs

  • Hypo Cycloid

    Again, the odds of a fumbled snap or handoff to Williams are extremely low. And for them to pick it up and return it? They were done. Game over. Gotta disagree with you, even though I usually agree with your comments.

  • falconsaftey43

    Hey, that’s fine, we’re all allowed to disagree on stuff. I recognize it’s not probable, but to me I’m not taking the chance in the playoffs. I want to win and win in decisive fashion. I value the momentum of that. 6 minutes to me is too much time left. I’d consider it with 2-3 minutes left if I was up that much.

  • Ryan Alderman

    In fairness to you, I need to rewatch the play at hand. I know Ben stepped up or avoided someone, so it wasn’t as simple as go back and hit a simple wide open guy underneath. And even if he doesn’t get hurt, why pass there and risk a potential clock-stopping incompletion when all you’re trying to do is wind the clock. Why take such a chance when the game is over regardless of the outcome of the play?

  • Not even an onside kick is needed right away. If Jones throws a pick 6 and its a 10 point game with 5+ minutes left. If Jones then goes 3 and out or turns it over again, then we are in trouble with maybe 3 and a half minutes left. Tides can turn that quickly.

    Yes it’s highly unlikely, but certainly is possible. Ben’s is out there to keep his guys in line and is trusted to gain the needed first downs to close out the game. They threw it on 3rd down, being aggressive to end the game without giving Miami a chance to get lucky with a lightning strike.

    At that point in the game Miami has 2 time outs so the clock only stops a total of 3 more times including the 2 minute warning. 1 or two more first downs and Ben is in the victory formation. Everyone is walking out on the field to shake hands with 39 seconds left.

  • Hypo Cycloid

    When it nearly statistically impossible. In this case it was nearly statistically impossible. And look at what Ben did…Throw a pick. He is fully capable of throwing picks too.

    I always say step on their throat. Kick them when they are down. I always hate prevent defense. Unless the game is over. By that, you calculate the time, timeouts, onside kicks necessary, odds of fumbles and picks. I feel the dolphins win in that situation, maybe once in a thousand tries. Odds of Ben, ab, or bell getting hurt in a thousand snaps is much higher.

  • Didn’t the Seahawks beat the Packers in the playoffs in that highly unlikely situation last year? Down 2 scores in a game where Wilson tossed 5 picks, somehow they managed to score, get the onside kick and score again to win? It does happen, however improbable.

  • treeher

    Wasn’t bad luck, it was bad decision making. I made the point in another post that it’s not so much that Tomlin left him in – ball security among the center, QB, and running back. It’s the decision to throw it in the first place, and if you do throw it, don’t scramble to avoid a rush, just dump it off. IMO, common sense.

  • heath miller

    tomlin was 1000000% wrong …so answer me this … he rests B B B and pouncy and a couple others the week before int he browns game when that game was meaningless… so we are winning 30-6 or 30-9 or 30-12 to start the 4th Qt …. no doubt who would win … you got to pull B B B pouncey tuitt and all the other guys that are dinged up .. why pull them for a whole game one week and not the 4th Qt the next ? and dont tell me .. well one was a meaningless 16th game of the reg season and one was playoff game … dont tell me that .. we are playing a demoralized… freezing cold team from miami with a second string QB that couldnt scored 18 points in the 4th Qt if they turned out the lights at hines field.. just stupid.. give the other guys some reps and the starters some rest… if ben or brown or bell had gotten seriously hurt in the 4th QT and i owned the team i would have walked down to tomlin and handed him his pink slip right then… same as the GB game last night .. 4th Qt 38-13 and rogers is still in there .. just f-ing stupid .. im sure ben is playing this think with the boot up .. but could have been much worse… WAKE UP TOMLIN !!!! 83 tag team

  • falconsaftey43

    You’re right, should have pulled all starters at the start of the 4th quarter. Heck, start of the second half, or after Bell made it 20-6? Pull the starters and only bring them back in if the Dolphins pull within a score.

  • Ken Krampert

    Tired of hearing “Ben being Ben”. A veteran QB should know game situations. In that situation he should slide down or throw the ball away…or even checked into a run play. In that situation it was time for “Ben to be Brady”. Not to mention he threw a mindless interception. …that is rookie play. The coaching staff is only at fault for calling a pass play.

  • WreckIess

    Wake got around the edge which caused Ben to step up in the pocket, but that’s when Ben should’ve told himself that he needed to get the ball out. Gilbert held Wake so it wouldn’t have mattered, but it still would’ve saved an injury.

    At that point, you pass because you want to get that first down so that you could continue to control the clock. There was still over 4 minutes and even though it was unlikely, Mia still had time to come back. Short throw and let Ayers get what he can.

  • Brandon Watson

    If I may piggy-back off you falcon b/c this is something that’s become very annoying, in reference to this campaign of sorts to I guess unmask a what it seems half of Steeler Nation for some reason thinks he is, which is fraudulent, and this is all a shame. I just want to know what allows fans, who sit on their butt and get a 3-hour windows, 1 day a week, to be so confident in assessing a job they have no insight to nor experience with. I think many think their years of spectating or perhaps even playing at lower levels (high school) and because we know most the rules of the game … I think many think that’s a qualification?! It’s not. And they don’t realize that the family, the owners of the team, that 100% of Steeler Nation covet and boast about to other fan bases; the same ones that we gloat over, they hired this man to do a job. If they did not think he was doing the stinkin job or was “not getting his team up for bad teams” or whatever … they would fire him. They instead give extensions. So shut up … We just saw our team execute what had to be on top of everybody Steeler fan’s wish list yesterday, which was to quickly gain control and win comfortable and simply show us that they are ready to seize the moment. Mission accomplished, all I’m seeing is yet more unqualified critique of a man who has the respect of MEN like James Harrison who came back from retirement to play for this man. Sure, it was players, his teammates that ultimately convinced him but he would not play or a man who was not capable or able. He would not come back and get beat up and do what he needs to do if he felt everything wasn’t set up and in place to win another ‘ship.

  • heath miller

    ugh yeah they can score on 1 play … but its 30-12… 18 point lead .. they needed 2 TDs … 2 2 pt conversions and a FG to win ? or 3 TDs and XPts to win… all in the 4th QT .. all with a back up QB on a team that was obviously demoralized and freezing cold .. all they wanted to do is get back here to FLA . i mean let landry play a quarter .. he would tack on another 3-7 points to that lead.. lets D Willl runt he ball and eat up clock.and get some reps … didnt need brown in there .. didn need pouncey .. just plain stupid… miami wouldnt have scored 18 points in the 4th QT yesterday against the browns .. i think the steelers 2nd string would have been just fine… tomlin and his next man up crap.. hummm but the next man up isnt good enough to hold a 18 point lead in the 4th QT? smh 83 tag team

  • Brandon Watson

    and man … that was 1 impressive run-on sentence to open. lol. My bad. I’m just fed up with all the nail Tomlin to the wall stuff. I’m tired of the hypocrisy and the witch hunts. Its the same thing year in and year out. One year it’s this Tomlin guy can’t draft … we have no talent. Now we have historic talent on offense, so then it was he can’t draft defense. Now that’s been proven incorrect. Now after a big playoff win, we are debating how long he plays his professional football players. The disconnect I believe is we are all normal people, not wired like these athletes are. These men aren’t fearful. They love to play football, with one another. What’s special about our Steelers is that even the superstars don’t think they are more valuable than the next teammate, and I imagine to a man … they want to see things thru to the end with their brothers. Wouldn’t you? Wouldn’t as their leader want that mentality and wouldn’t in respect to that want to allow them to have these moments that are here and then gone. I would and in return the respect for the man leading us would grow b/c I was being respected.

  • I think the Coach and Ben have responsibility in this decision but ultimately it is the coach that needs to take the lead. Common sense says, take Ben out.

  • Hypo Cycloid

    2 scores is the key. Fins were down 3 with minimal time. We obviously disagree so I won’t argue anymore. What’s happened, happened. Moving on to KC and go Stiller’s!

  • johnhoien

    There is a certain tenacity and attitude that builds within a team where the starters don’t come out.. But mane as a Monday morning QB I would lean towards Landry taking the last series & AB sitting w/ Ben.. It was a meaningless series, but it may come back to bite us :/

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  • Hypo Cycloid

    I was yelling about it before the potential injury. In fact I was telling my dad that Ben, bell, and AB better not come out right before that very series! The what ifs of injury must be taken into account as well!

  • Hypo Cycloid

    I look at it as risking the playoffs via losing key players. But it’s over and done with so let’s move on to KC. Go Stiller’s!

  • Ben threw that pass with 4 and a half minutes left. That drive started with more that 6 minutes left. 3 scores is still possible in 6 minutes. If there was 3 minutes left when that final drive started, I would have considered pulling some guys, but it was 6 minutes. I agree, if they wanted to pass the ball, it should have been a screen or quick out pattern and if its not there throw it away. To me 6 minutes is just too much time left to put Jones out there, most guys don’t expect him to protect the ball, much less a lead.

    Ben will be fine. Onto KC.

  • Bryan Ischo

    If that’s the case, then this is a great outcome. Because maybe it Tomlin and Ben will LEARN something from this close call, without it actually affecting Ben’s play in KC.

  • Arnold Ziffel

    Dumb to leave him in when you’re only handing off and attempting 6 yard pass. If Jones can’t do that then heaven help them if he has to play and actually perform since you haven’t dressed Mettenberger lately, let alone use him in a game this year. Continues to show poor game management decisions by this staff.

  • Big Joe

    No. If someone would’ve gotten hurt on the series before, people would’ve found reasons to complain then too. It’s football and things happen

  • David S

    Question: all 4 games this past weekend had similar blowout-type scores. Were the 3 other winning QBs (Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson and Brock Osweiler) benched near the end of their games?

    I honestly wasn’t paying attention to know.

  • Jeff Papiernik

    No I don’t think any of them were

  • Da Bus Driver

    The end of the article basically sums up the whole gist…
    He clearly chose to pull Bell, SO WHY NOT BROWN? AND FOR THE LOVE OF …
    WHY NOT BEN???

  • J Jones

    If we are talking any other qb with Ben’s experience, sure leave em in. Pad their stats a little, maybe get another catch for your young wr’s and build some more confidence going forward. Unfortunately our qb has the decision making of Cutler or Romo sometimes. So yes he shoulda been taken out bc he doesnt seem to understand the bigger picture at times

  • charles

    After D meltdowns including cowpatties, Ben and Haley have silent agreement to keep pedal to the medal!

  • charles

    When Ben not 100%, passing accuracy to Steelers goes down and passing accuracy to the opposition goes up!

  • Romans5:8

    I believe it was a poor decision to have him in the game at that point. I also believe that AB shouldn’t have been returning punts late in the game. I also believe that Bell shouldn’t have been carrying the ball late in the game. I was very disappointed.

  • Petherson Silveira

    Just bad luck.