Mel Kiper Jr. 2017 Mock Draft: Steelers Select Missouri Edge Charles Harris 30th Overall

While we all hope that it will be a few more weeks before we have to get hard and heavy into talking about the 2017 NFL Draft, I thought that today I would wet your whistle a little bit and let you know who Mel Kiper Jr. has the Pittsburgh Steelers taking in the first round of his first mock of the offseason.

Kiper, who has the Steelers picking 30th overall in the first round of the 2017 NFL Draft, mocked Missouri edge rusher Charles Harris to Pittsburgh with that selection and here is what he wrote about him.

“Harris had an up-and-down 2016 with nine sacks and two forced fumbles, but his ceiling his high. In this scenario, Harris (6-3, 255) would be an outside linebacker in the Steelers’ 3-4, but he could play end in a 4-3 or even move inside to rush the passer from a tackle spot. Pass-rushers Jarvis Jones (a 2013 first-round pick) and James Harrison (who turns 39 this summer) will be free agents.”

The Steelers will more than likely be looking for another outside linebacker or two in this year’s draft and I’m sure it wouldn’t hurt many Steelers’ fans feelings if they spent their first-round selection on one.

Harris, who announced he will forgo his senior season and declare for the 2017 NFL Draft in December, registered 136 total tackles in the 37 games that he played in at Missouri and 18 total sacks. He was also credited with 34.5 tackles for loss.

ESPN.com has Harris listed at 6027 and 255-pounds so it will be interesting to see how closely that matches to his 2017 NFL Scouting Combine measurements in February.

We’ll have a full scouting report of Harris in the coming weeks, but in the meantime, here’s is what Daniel Jeremiah of NFL.com has on Harris and below is a highlight tape of the Missouri product.

  • xXWARisHELLXx

    I really like this kid. He looks like he has it all in terms of pass rushing. Speed to power, multiple moves, great first step and can bend the edge. I would love this pick.

  • Aj Gentile

    It’s surprising how many mocks already don’t have Steelers taking an edge. I’ve seen tight ends and CB also.

  • srdan

    And I’m surprised how many of them don’t have us drafting at 32.

  • falconsaftey43

    I’m more luke warm on Harris than a lot of the other pass rushers. I think he’s a little stiff, more straight line. I prefer Mathis, Lawson, Barrnette, McKinley.

  • Michael Mera

    Now, I get the need for pass rushers……. but why is no one talking about (as far as I can see) backups at QB and RB.

    Bell is top 3 in the league, but can they manage another year out of D-Will? And who are they grooming for Ben? Because in the QB department, the cupboard is BARE.

  • Jeff Papiernik

    I don’t like Harris from what I’ve seen on film of him so far. Kudos to Kiper for mocking an OLB to us, but this guy doesn’t look like a Steeler

  • Jeff Papiernik

    Couldn’t agree more on Harris. I like McKinley, Watt, and Smoot

  • falconsaftey43

    As far as RB goes, I think most assume they’ll draft a mid round back as Bell’s backup, or sign a lower level FA. He’ll never play unless Bell is hurt, so it’s not a big priority.

    QB if they resign Jones, I don’t see them drafting one. If not, I assume they’ll look after round 3.

  • The Tony

    We are not going to waste a first round pick on a back up QB and RB. Especially since we can draft James Connor in round three or four 😉

  • sch1989

    Kind of reminds me of when Bud Dupree came out.

  • falconsaftey43

    Ooo forgot about Watt and Smoot. I love Smoot. Watt is a hustle’energy guy, but he gets it done. Price from Pitt is really good too (struggles against the run though). So many good edge rushers this year, they should get a couple.

  • 6 ring circus

    At least 31st.

  • Jeff Papiernik

    If Harrison comes back, we could probably space them out. One this year and one next year.

  • falconsaftey43

    Yeah, they don’t need 2 this year, but I think there will be good value to be had in the mid rounds so they probably will.

  • Douglas Andrews

    I know I saw one mock with us drafting Alabama’s TE OJ Howard

  • Jeff Papiernik

    Yeah I mean, if the value is there, take it. But they could use ILB, RB, CB, DL depth as well.

  • Jeff Papiernik

    Yeah saw that on NFL . com. I’m not saying we won’t draft a TE. But round 1? No way

  • “WC”

    The Steelers will draft the highest graded player on their board that’s available, period! There might be some on the staff looking at the draft, etc., but I assure you the coaches are thinking about playing winning ball on Sunday against the Patriots.

    This will be a stern test and they must be ready for Brady, etc.

    They can win this game, AB notwithstanding, but that’s done. So it’s on to business. The Patriots are a great team with great fans. The environment will be loud (not as loud as KC), but it is a hostile environment.

    The draft, I’m afraid, must take a backseat at the moment and rightfully so.

  • Michael Mera

    I don’t necessarily mean in the first round…..for a RB maybe….. but I mean, a LEGIT, pro bowl replacement for Ben. They aren’t gonna find that in the 4th round.

  • Douglas Andrews

    Yeah way too early for a TE. From what i’ve sen Howard is a good one.

  • Douglas Andrews

    Looks like a good late first round OLB. Shows some pass rush moves, nice spin move for a big guy and good quickness.

  • StrengthOfVictory

    I’m honestly getting tired of just how assumed it has become in the sports media that the Steelers will lose to the Pats on Sunday. Basically, “Should be a good game, but the Patriots will win.”

    One more reason I want this win so badly.

  • falconsaftey43

    Yeah, probably need another TE at this point. Maybe QB too if Jones walks. Not sure if ILB is a big need. They have Shazier, Williams, Matakevich, Fort, Johnson still.

  • falconsaftey43

    Ben’s signed for 3 more years. I don’t think they’ll look for his replacement yet. Don’t want to risk losing them to FA. No way they take RB round 1, they play Bell EVERY snap. Any RB they bring in will strictly be a backup, not even a role player.

  • Saw one on NFL page that had us taking OJ Howard TE Alabama. I was a little disappointed with that pick.

    It’s kind of silly to do mock drafts before the combine, because regardless of tape, some guys will rise or fall depending on their workout numbers.

  • Even if Harrison does come back, I’m not banking on his 39 year old body being able to take the punishment of his position for 1000+ snaps. I would be drafting 2 edge rushers in the first 2 rounds and another in the mid rounds

  • T R

    damn the mock. he basically saying we not wining the Super Bowl at 30th? or did we trade up 🙂

  • falconsaftey43

    Not specifically for the Steelers, but just as prospects. What are your thoughts on Peppers and Cunningham? Peppers just doesn’t seem to do anything special to me outside of punt return. Cunningham looks so weak and seems to miss way too many tackles for where he’s being projected to me.

  • Jeff Papiernik

    I could see 2, but not 3. You don’t draft 3 players for possibly only one starting position next year

  • falconsaftey43

    We won the Super Bowl, Pats were docked their first round pick for cheating during the AFCCG and we traded up with the Packers haha.

  • Jeff Papiernik

    If they don’t resign Timmons, I think we need to draft an ILB high. Our depth is good, but I don’t think any of those guys are game changers like Shazier and Timmons can be.

  • Jeff Papiernik

    Yeah I’m not a fan of Peppers. Good player, just seems like a project at whatever position he eventually ends up yet. I’ve heard good things about Cunningham but haven’t watched much tape on him yet. First thing I noticed though was his very lanky frame which is a bit concerning. Would be tougher for him to go low on people. I could see him missing quite a few tackles at the next level.

  • Sam Clonch

    They’ll draft a RB, maybe a QB too, but it won’t be in the first round. Mid to late. Bell’s young, so you just need a backup. Ben’s old, but still balling, so they’re trying to build teams to take advantage of his last few years. Not using a high draft pick on RB or QB anymore than we would on a center or RG.

  • srdan

    Bud came on pretty quick, I’d be excited about it if you think he can match buds early years.

  • Zarok

    Dak Prescott disagrees.

  • WreckIess

    No problem with that. Good size and decent bend out of him. Reminds me a lot of Brandon Graham. I’d rather have McKinley, but more and more it’s looking like he’s not going to make it anywhere near our pick. If he times well at the combine we can forget about it.

  • Sam Clonch

    How likely is it they find one even at the end of the 1st round? Definitely not a legit, pro-bowl replacement. I’m not sure if there are ANY of those guys in this class, and there’s a loooot of qb hungry teams. We’d be lucky to get a Paxton Lynch level guy, and I don’t know if you watched the Broncos last game when he played, but no one’s mistaking him for Ben, lol.

  • Not just 1 starting position, but depth and special teams too. Also the more you have increases the odds of hitting incase if there is a bust.

  • Joeybaggadonuts

    There type of player as they like players who would’ve been 5th year seniors. 6’3″ 250 Plus a couple moves. If he’s as good as they say is I hope he’s available. I don’t believe much fun if anything the mill Kuiper has to say

  • Joeybaggadonuts

    I love Price but he’s from Pitt and they very rarely take hometown guys early on in their careers

  • steelburg

    I agree. Harris doesn’t fit with the direction the team has gone in on defense the past few years. They have been looking for athletes and Harris doesn’t fit that. All those guys you named make a lot more sense. I’m extremely high on Smoot as well and I would love for him to be the pick granted he has a good showing at the combine.

  • falconsaftey43

    I think Harris is explosive good first step, but I think that might be all he has. He reminds me of Shane Ray, only not as good. Barrnett is pretty slow but has fantastic bend, I worry about him playing OLB in space though. Smoot, Lawson, McKinley, Price, Watt are all very athletic.

  • JohnB

    I think when they do it with teams still in it, they order you by seed. That’s why we’re 30.

  • JohnB

    They do it by seed if we’re still in the hunt.

  • Michael Conrad

    I would like someone like Dupree 6’5″ and about 260 with his speed sort of bookends . Harris does look good in some highlights but I worry about his frame holding up against tackles. Harris does have moves he has a killer spin move.

  • falconsaftey43

    Not a lot of athletes like Dupree on the planet. I don’t know if anyone compares to him athletically in this draft besides Garrett.

  • Big Joe

    It’s possible. Other options may include Malik McDowell, Corey Davis, JuJu Smith-Schuster, D;Onta Foreman or Christian McCaffrey (only as insurance to injury to Bell with DW being close to the end of his career), or Quincey Wilson. I’m also keeping an eye on Budda Baker (slot CB/FS) as he looks to have potential and could give us depth there if Golson keeps getting hurt). The 2nd round appears to have good depth for WR, S, and CB so who knows how this will shape up in the end. Still a long way off for the draft and a lot of evaluations to occur along the path. Gonna be interesting as always.

  • Whether it’s 30th, 31st, or 32nd, I suspect the Steelers will just go BPA (according to their list of special players) at that spot or trade down. But there’s no doubt the pass rush has to be a priority in the draft, and it wouldn’t surprise me if they took two within the first four rounds (unless they want to try to make a splash in free agency).

    But really, other than that, there aren’t many obvious holes on the team right now. They’ll get Hawkins and maybe Harris back for depth on the o-line, and hopefully they’ll have some good competition at CB with Gilbert and Golson challenging for spots. So, beyond pass rush, I’d say they focus on safety (depth behind Mitchell and Davis alongside Golden), TE (depending on what happens with Green — he’ll be back, but how healthy?), and RB (a longer-term backup to Bell, maybe a more change-of-pace sort of rusher), with maybe ILB later in the draft. The wild card might be WR, though, depending on Bryant. If he’s good to go — and reinstated — great. If not, they really do need a better option to play opposite AB.

  • falconsaftey43

    You really think they’d take a WR in round 1? AB back, Coates was a beast before breaking his hand, Rogers had a really good first year. DHB, Ayers, Hamilton still around. Bryant may be back.

  • Big Joe

    I’m simply saying that it’s an option that may be available to them near the end of round one. That’s all. I have no preference right now and am looking at all players that I believe to fit what the team generally looks for at the position.

  • Donny Simmons

    Dave, I and all the Steelers Depot and Podcast fans would love to see you guys do a Steelers Depot (Steelers Fans) guide to the 2017 Draft. Alex and the guys do such a great job with the Senior Bowl, combine and the pro-days. A draft guide from you guys. I know I would buy one and i’m sure a lot of others would. Thanks for the great work.

  • WreckIess

    The guy you’d want is Mckinley out of UCLA then. He looks like he’s about to run and jump out the gym come combine, but there really aren’t too many guys like Dupree. He’s a freak in almost the same mode as Clowney. Honestly when you look at his combine numbers, height, and weight they’re like clones.

  • WreckIess

    I would hope we wouldn’t take another d linemen that early or an RB. Way more needs on this team and BPA only matters so much.

  • Clutterbox

    I think Peppers will be great with the right coaching. I think of him as a S instead of an EDGE. I can see potential as a Troy type player. Like Troy, he seems to be always around the ball. I agree he needs to improve on his tackling. I doubt Peppers will drop below pick 20. If he is there, I’ll be happy to take him depending who is left on the board.

  • Big Joe

    I agree. I generally don’t agree with Daniel Jeremiah on his selections each year. I tend to agree with those who say that it’s too early in the draft to go TE in Round One unless the guy is a very, very special athlete and will create mismatches wherever he goes. However, I also believe Ladarius Green needs to consider retiring before he goes one concussion too far. Howard is a decent TE but nothing to write home about IMO considering other TEs coming out of the draft in recent years.

  • steelburg

    I’m not a huge fan of Watt and I don’t know much about Price. But I would be ok with Smoot, Lawson, and McKinley. I’m also a fan of Joe Mathis. But if I had to put them in order based off who i know right now I would go Smoot, Lawson, McKinley, Mathis. If you told me that Lawson would check out medically I would rate him 1.

  • J.

    Our time to grab a TE in the first round would have been last year when they could have nabbed Hunter Henry

  • VinHuddle

    Agree with you on the TE mocks. I’ve seen 2 in the last Wk or so that left me scratching my head when I saw that. However if all of the top Edge rushers are gone and CB Sidney Jones was still available I wouldn’t mind that at all but that’s just my 2¢ worth.

  • Clutterbox

    I too am lukewarm on him. Good strength, but I find him a little to slow to play the Edge. His pad level is also too high.

  • Big Joe

    I actually think McDowell could lose some weight (6-5 / 276 right now but who knows until the combine) and play at OLB. He’s a terrific athlete, has good speed for his size, and has a good motor. The combine will tell though and I agree that we may not want another DL if it turns out that he can’t play out there. As for my list, it’s merely an across the board identification of those players who I believe have a decent fit to what the team generally looks for at each of the positions and who are currently ranked near the end of Round One or early in Round Two. I’m not identifying anything beyond that.

  • nikgreene

    I agree with your post.
    It’s pretty awesome to be in this position as the Steelers. Assuming they work out extensions with Brown, Bell, and Tuitt, you have an extremely good core of players on offense and defense locked up for several years. Edge rusher is definitely the only true need as you can’t project Harrison (if he resigns) to play so many snaps at age 39, and they don’t really have much depth unless you think Chickillo and Moats can contribute more than a few snaps a game.
    I could also see depth at D-Line (just to save tuitt and heward snaps) and at CB as priorities. At this point Gilbert and Golson are not known quantities, so if you can grab another quality defensive back to mold into a starting slot corner I’d jump at it. Gay won’t be around much longer.
    But like you said. Grab BPA and make this roster even more loaded.

  • Big Joe

    In this case, I think SOV is correct in his premise that the assumption is that Green Bay would lose, and be positioned at 29 given their record, then the Steelers would lose, and be positioned at 30 given their record is better than Green Bay’s. The presumption is that it would be Atlanta and New England in the SB.

  • steelburg

    I agree. But ask yourself why are several sites mocking a TE to us when we have Green, James, Grimble and Johnson? That’s the interesting thing to me most of these guys talk to nfl GM’S and coaches.

  • VinHuddle

    I like your suggestion of Price, he popped off the screen during a game I watched earlier in the season…maybe it’s because he looks like he’s wearing shorts lol. Any clue on what round he’s projected? Personally I’d think 3-4. And yes get a couple this yr if possible.

  • JohnB

    NE was a first seed(32), Atlanta was a second(31), Pitt a third(30), and GB was a 4th seed(29). it makes sense, trust me.

  • Paddy

    They need a blocking TE I don’t think he blocks

  • Clutterbox

    I agree with this. However, I don’t think Mckinley will be there when Steelers pick unless we trade up. Once the NFL combine happens, I think his stock will shoot up. He seems to be one of the fast OLB/EDGE in the draft and his time will probably reflect it too.

  • Big Joe

    I don’t disagree on Barnett and McKinley but unless something changes, both I think will be long gone before we pick and will cost quite a lot to move up to get.

  • Da Bus Driver

    YAWN… PICKING 30TH???? YAWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

    Oh, and given from Mr. Raven himself, Kiper? DOUBLE YAWN!!!!!!!

  • Big Joe

    I understand your approach, but that isn’t how the draft positioning works and that isn’t how the pundits put their mock drafts together. They put them together based on where they believe they will fall by the end of the SB. The draft order itself works based on regular season record so, given that, Kiper is banking on GB losing to Atlanta and Pittsburgh losing to New England. This puts GB at 29 and Pitt at 30 because we have a better regular season record than GB.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    Flacon –

    That is the one knock on Harris. At 6’2″ 255 pounds, you’re not going to consistently beat NFL tackles (who run 6’5″ 310 pounds, at least), unless you you can DIP and BEND.

    Jarvis Jones’ highlight reel looked amazing as well. But if you watched the whole game, you would see him get stymied on the vast majority of his plays due to physical limitations.

    Harris is bigger, stronger, faster, more explosive, than Jarvis, so I think he will be much more productive in the NFL. But I’ll have to see more tape of him bending before I’m completely sold.

  • JohnB

    What? these dudes don’t bank on people losing just to fit their article, especially Kiper. They have to keep it fair. You want to keep on believing that, that’s on you, but what I said is how they really do it with teams still in it. Its why if you look at any mock drafts on the big sites they have it in the same order. what they all have the same opinion on who goes when? I don’t think so.

  • I think Green should make that choice for himself and I will bet that he doesn’t retire. The money he will be making will set up him and his family’s future.

    If you want to learn a little bit about CTE, check out Ann McKee of Boston University and her concussion study, tell me what you find because it may surprise you…

  • WreckIess

    Yeah I said that down below lol. He seemed like he might just drop a couple weeks ago, but his hype train is starting to pick up steam.

  • WreckIess

    I think he’s be a way better fit as either a 4-3 DT or putting on around 10 lbs and becoming a 3-4 DE. He looks way too stiff to be a stand up Linebacker.

  • Yes, I forgot to mention d-line depth, though I’ve been pretty pleased with what Walton has shown, and he and Mathews are certainly more than capable to support Heyward and Tuitt. But sure, if there’s someone they really like. My sense is that they’re really hoping Golson can slide into the slot CB spot next season, but who knows? They haven’t exactly had much luck drafting CBs later on in the draft, but I can see them taking one in the middle rounds. Certainly in the first, though, it has to be an impact guy with starting potential, and I’d say that means edge rusher. Maybe Dupree and Harrison are the starters, but they need a better #3 than Chickillo or Moats. (I suspect Moats will be gone.)

  • Big Joe

    Probably true but not a lot of typical 3/4 OLBs in this draft near the end of Round One, at least the way it appears to be shaping up thus far. Most of the good ones are shaping up to go in the top 20; however, a good ways to go still and a lot of movement in how they ultimately end up sitting on teams’ boards.

  • Riverstko

    He is good but he will be gone early. He will not last til our pick.

  • Steel City Slim

    I like Lawson, Harris, Smoot, or McKinley early in the draft, and Ejuan Price later. But there’s also a guy from Kent State named Terence Waugh, 6’2″ 261, whom I think could be a nice late round steal.

  • The Truth

    Perhaps Lewis Neal(LSU) in the later rounds. This would only be if they draft a OLB in the first round.

  • The Truth

    I would like to see a Heath Miller type TE. It seems most of the good ones this year can’t really block.

  • pittfan

    the tunes on these highlight films are always obnoxious.

  • Michael Pennant

    The Steelers have shown that they will take the BPA at the highest priority position of need. They will not draft a player they have rated lower than the draft position. The only positions that are solid are QB/CB and maybe OL. Rounds 1 – 3 won’t come from those position, but every other position group is wide open including TE/WR/RB on offense and LB/DL/S on defense.

  • Big Joe

    We’ll agree to disagree then so good luck with your premise in the future.

  • SteelersDepot

    The worst part

  • Lebanese Mike Tomlin

    O.J can block if you watch his film

  • Sdale

    Yeah, they’re tougher to find these days with all the spread offenses. Might be one or two in each draft it seems like and none lately have been the caliber of a Heath Miller.

  • John Phillips

    Speaking of Jones did you see how out of shape he looked in Browns Facebook video.

  • John Phillips

    Jones needs to hit the weight room with Harrison as a tutor.

  • Shannon Stephenson

    Lawson, Barnett or Smoot….I’m with you on Harris….maybe in the 3rd for me for Harris.

  • Conserv_58

    Yeah that.

  • Charles Haines

    Not going to happen, they learned their lesson from JJ and athleticism will be more of a factor at that position. But it is Kiper and he did get 4 picks correct in last years first round.

  • Steelox

    JohnB you’re absolutely right on this. The spots aren’t determined until teams get eliminated. Until that point, in mock drafts, all playoffs teams are slotted based on seeding.

  • Rob S.

    I’ll admit I don’t know much about the college ranks, but from his highlights he showed good bend and an above average spin move. At this point I’d like this pick

  • Conserv_58

    I agree with your defensive choices, but I would also add a CB since William Gay may not be back next season. Either way they are thin at CB, especially good CB’s. IMO, drafting a safety should be right up there because we don’t know how long Mike Mitchell has left in the tank.

  • Conserv_58

    It’s pretty clear that he plays with controled violence. If he’s at the Steelers’ pick I wouldn’t hesitate to pull the trigger to take him.

  • capehouse

    lol that’s all he does in Bama’s offense unless it’s the national champ game.

  • Paddy

    My bad

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Daniel Jerimiah has us mocked with OJ Howard at 30. I don’t know about that 30 but the pick is very intriguing.

  • George Kroger

    I think Howard’s overall game might be better than Henry’s.

    I’d take Howard at 32 if there was no one like Harris available.

  • Maybe if he makes it to 32

  • If for some reason there is a big run on pass rushers and a good value CB is there or TE i would take either

  • Brian Miller

    Agree and agree. I think the pass catching and speed areally very comparable, but Howard is a better blocker. I would love this pick. Plus edge rusher is supposedly one of the deepest positions in this draft.

  • Brian Miller

    Very good blocker in college.

  • Brian Miller

    agree with your feeling on Harris. I was so – so on him, but to be fair I have only seen film on two games so far. He does have a good first step, and spin move, but he has trouble getting off blocks. Looks more like a 4/3 DE to me…

  • Brian Miller

    Yep, Foreman, or Galman? (Clemson), or even the kid from Boise St., lots of good middle round talent for RB like last year.

  • Brian Miller

    Interesting question…who is the one player you scouted last year that you were most disappointed that the Steelers did not draft?!? I will give you mine, I was ready for Pittsburgh to take Karl joseph…so sad he went as early as he did.

  • steelmann58

    I would hope they add one for sure

  • Mike Lloyd

    Will he last till pick 32?
    Because that’s where we will be picking.
    “So long Mel, have a nice trip” Lol.

  • Reggie Cunningham

    I don’t like UCLA players for some reason especially their linebackers

  • thomas hmmmm

    That’s because these analysts doing the mocks can’t project how a player is actually going to be. If they could then they would know we have a TE in JJ and Green if he can ever stay healthy enough to play.

  • Wayne’O

    Wow. If he’s available that would be a nice pick. Bring Deebo back for one last season and let Harris learn the ropes under him by playing the role that JJ in now playing (depth). And that could be scary.

  • H.K. northern cali

    Can anyone see the steelers going 1 and 2 on lbs? Like they didbin 07? One outside one inside?

  • Matt Manzo

    If the right guys are there, yes. Though I think it’d be 2 OLBs. Or a DE before we went ILB.

  • Matt Manzo

    If the right guys are there! Though I think they’d take 2 OLBs before an ILB.

  • Jeffrey Haynes

    Looks like a harrison/freeney hybrid

  • LucasY59

    I think they double up on OLBs but, but I kinda doubt they take 2 in a row with the top 2 picks

    ILB makes sense, with Shazier’s injury history (no Im not calling him injury prone, but he has missed considerable time) and Timmons age (I know they have VW and Red) adding another speedy guy that could be a backup to Ryan could be useful (kinda like Spence or Garvin) could also be useful as a sub package guy (so using a 2nd rd pick wouldnt be to high of an investment)

  • LucasY59

    and there is a lot of talented CBs in this draft also, so I kinda expect the Steelers to draft one

    I think if a playmaking Safety is the BPA they could take one in the 1st rd (even though most would think that is not enough of a need, the Defense goes to another level with a big time playmaker at that position)

  • LucasY59

    getting McKinley as the opposite guy from Dupree would give them a pair of CRAZY athletic physical freaks

    from what I have been able to research on Takkarisst, he has some good bend to go with a kinda long lanky build (but also is close to 250 so he isnt too thin/light to hold up on the edge) the Speed is the big weapon with him and I really like the thought of having two guys that could realistically get to the QB in close to 2 seconds (if they get a good first step on the Tackle)

    right now he is the OLB I want the Steelers to get (I hope that his rawness makes him drop like Bud did 2 yrs ago) I had almost the same feeling with Dupree so I think it could happen

    With Garrett, Allen, Thomas, Barnett, Charlton, Watt, Harris, Walker, Williams, and Anderson being edge guys that other teams could take ahead of McKinley (Allen, Thomas and Charlton most likely in 43 schemes) there is a chance he drops

    It is so early in the process that it is likely a lot will change and its really hard to get a accurate ranking/projection until after the combine

  • LucasY59

    lots of time between now and the combine (and even more till the Draft) I agree things change a lot between now and then (but gotta start somewhere so its still fun to look at prospects even if projections for where they will be taken/available arent very accurate)

  • LucasY59

    I think Lawson is just as stiff (and also has injury history) both Harris and Lawson seem to be the easy mock to the Steelers right now (since both should be available) but I see them as possible 2nd rd picks for the Steelers (lots can change until after the combine, and either could do some things to change my opinion)

    I think Barnett is gone before the Steelers pick (breaking Reggie Whites sack record at Tennessee shows that he is a very good pass rusher so I think he could be the next OLB taken after Garrett, both gone in the top 10)

    The guy I really like is McKinley, he has the raw (freak) athleticism that could allow him to fall to the Steelers, but those physical gifts are what make me excited about him as a prospect, matching him with Bud would be SCARY

    I havent done much research on Mathis yet (but what I just found has piqued my interest, he could be very similar to McKinley, so will be checking out more on him)

    like I said a lot WILL change between now and the draft, but getting familiar with some of the names is a good thing to do even if its early in the process

  • LucasY59

    he has size going against him (some dont think he is even 6 foot) so he could fall, I am guessing he is not taken earlier than the 4th rd

    I am thinking he could be a great 2nd OLB for the Steelers take in the draft (guessing they will double up)

    I want McKinley in the 1st and Price anytime from the 4th (or later) I think that could give some really good young OLB depth, Bud and Chick on the left and McKinley and Price on the right

    the height issue does not scare me with Price (look at what Deebo has done at a similar build/size) hopefully it allows the Steelers to get a quality player with a bargain pick (6th rdrs seem to work out well, Chick recently Lloyd back in the day as OLB examples, and lots of other good 6th rd guys on the team at other positions currently AB being the most obvious one)

    McKinley is kinda raw like Dupree was, so although he should do well in measurables there is a chance he is still available when the Steelers pick (lots can change between now and the draft so I could end up being totally wrong about both OLBs but right now this is how I am hoping it works out)

  • LucasY59

    they need depth since they are most likely losing Jarvis and Harrison, but drafting 3 basically makes it so they have to expect one isnt going to work out, I think they take 2 (but any more than that would be a waste of a draft pick) they dont have room on the roster for more than 2, Dupree, Chickillo and Moats (are pretty much roster locks currently) and they wont be able to keep more than 5 total OLBs, there is a small chance the rookies are good enough to bump Moats (but they are going to want a veteran guy in the group, so again I would be very surprised if he isnt on next seasons roster)

    if one or both rookies from this draft dont work out they would just draft more the following yr, but taking 3 in one yr shouldnt happen

  • LucasY59

    McKinley in the 1st and Price later would be perfect IMO

  • VinHuddle

    Well said. Early in the college season I read a mock that had them taking McKinley so I read up and watched some Bruin games when I could. Personally if he were to be the pick I think he’d be a great fit.

  • Terrible Towlie

    I’d be quite happy with that pick…he got power, speed to burn and some great moves… love the spin back inside

  • I wasn’t saying they should, but I would. And saying they don’t have roster space for 5 OLBs, they have 5 right now and carried all of 5 last year too. Besides I did say 2 in the first 2 rounds then 1 more later. He could be practice squad material. If not, Chickillo or Moats are not locks like you say for next year. If you are looking for a vet presence, It’s their coach.

  • Aj Gentile

    They all can’t be perfect

  • Aj Gentile

    Yeah and there were still some good edge guys left

  • Aj Gentile

    That’s true but at the moment, without going through the offseason, edge is such a pressing need.

  • Aj Gentile

    They should think about taking edge rushes at one and two depending on who is there. That’s how good this draft is

  • Aj Gentile

    I would like another C/G to replace Wallace

  • thomas hmmmm

    Yea agreed. Edge is most important. I would draft two in the first 4 rounds. I would also consider drafting a QB in the first 4…
    I would definitely draft a qb before a te.

  • Ike Evans

    Yes! Lets get some draft talk goin early

  • Ike Evans

    Keanu neal

  • SubSuper Dave!

    As a final note, Kiper announces that the Ravens have been given an A+ on the 2017 draft picks!!

  • George Kroger

    Steeler LB from Kent State…where have I heard that before?

  • Brian Miller

    Yeah, liked him too, especially after KJ was drafted.

  • Steel City Slim

    I believe it was a couple of guys named Harrison and Lambert.

  • J.

    Most reports I have read say despite his size blocking is not something he does well. One said he doesnt block as much as he just gets in the way.