Dulac: Mettenberger Lacks Talent, Steelers Like Landry

If you are among the not insignificant group of fans who believe that the smart money is the Pittsburgh Steelers turning their sights to fourth-year quarterback Zach Mettenberger for their future backup quarterback needs, I have a bit of bad news for you. Actually, I have a couple of bits of bad news for you.

Gerry Dulac of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette held a chat recently in which he was bombarded with a number of questions about the backup quarterback position, which has become a heightened topic this year in light of Ben Roethlisberger’s comments about considering retirement and the fact that Landry Jones is slated to become a free agent in just under a month.

One questioner asked Dulac about what the Steelers’ plans are for the backup quarterback position in a not so veiled admonition of Jones and the fact that he believes that the Steelers need to do better. This is certainly not an uncommon opinion, but it’s evidently not one those who make the decisions hold.

Dulac responded to the questioner by saying that the Steelers “don’t look at [the backup quarterback position] as a glaring need”, and that “they believe Landry Jones is better than 80 percent of the other backups in the league”.

Now, I am generally in Jones’ corner, and have been for the most part of the past two years, though I’m not sure I can get fully on board with Dulac’s comment about him being in the top fifth of backup quarterbacks in the league. Nor am I dismissing it. But I do believe that there is a fairly gross overestimation of the general quality of the backup quarterback position around the league, so it may well be true.

I find myself wondering these days what we would have been able to see from Jones during the 2015 season when Roethlisberger had to sit out four games with a knee injury. You will recall that he was not the top backup at the time, and only checked in during the second half of the third game due to injury, starting the following week.

We certainly would have gotten a much better sense of where Jones is if we were given the chance to get an extended look at him over a span of multiple games. As it is, we have generally only seen him in spot duty—and yet that is more than we saw from Bruce Gradkowski.

I’ve been kind of burying the lede here, but Dulac was later in his chat asked directly about Mettenberger, specifically asking what he believes is his biggest issue in surpassing Jones on the depth chart. Dulac’s response was simple: “talent”.

This is not the first time that we have seen a beat writer—preferably the ones who actually bother watching practice—commenting on the fact that Mettenberger just might not be very good. Jones may end up signing elsewhere and thus not being Roethlisberger’s backup, but I wouldn’t expect Mettenberger to be, either.

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  • PB1015

    Is Ryan Mallet a free agent this year? He seems to have some upside as a backup.

  • WreckIess

    I absolutely don’t doubt that Mettenberger lacks talent. As a matter of fact, I think I said he sucked back when we first drafted him. I do doubt that they don’t see the back-up QB position as a need when Rooney himself said it might be time to look at the QB position in the draft. Sure he was talking about finding that potential QB of the future, but at this point I think those go hand in hand.

  • barry

    Never drafted Mettenberger. Try again

  • John

    It all comes down to who can start a game or two in a pinch and win games. Landry has yet to prove he can do it. Meanwhile there are a number of other guys that have done it for other teams like AJ McCarron. The McCowns, Cassels and others of the world have shown to be able to garner wins over time. If Landry can do it, he needs to show that now or move on. Mallet would seem better as would other options.

  • WilliamSekinger

    It’s news to me that the Steelers drafted Mettenberger…

  • WreckIess

    Obviously I meant pick when we first signed him. Kind of a petty point to try to call me on, but ok.

  • Chris92021

    Matt Moore, Jimmy Garoppolo, Ryan Mallett, A.J. McCarron, Josh McCown, Chad Henne, Matt Cassel, Nick Foles, Tony Romo, Chase Daniel, Colt McCoy, Shaun Hill, Matt Schaub, Derek Anderson, Luke McCown, Mike Glennon, Drew Stanton, and Case Keenum. That is 18 backups from 2016 season that I could honestly say are better than Landry Jones. So I am going to have to disagree with the Steelers’ front office members who believe Jones is better than “80 percent of the backups” out there. That number is more like 40 percent of all the backups available, meaning Jones is nowhere near as bad as many of us make him out to be but he’s no where near as good as the Steelers wish he was. I think picking up a QB in the 3rd/4th round will yield as good of results as Landry Jones gave the Steelers in the last four seasons. Time to move on from Jones.

  • John Pennington

    We never end drafted him

  • WreckIess

    I think I made it pretty clear to barry what I was saying. We all make mistakes right? I know “We never end drafted him”.

  • Beaver Falls Hosiery

    Beat me to the punch, I was going to list the 31 other back-ups but your list says it all. I might put Landry Jones ahead of a couple of the 18 you listed but he certainly would not be at the top.

  • steelburg

    We keep hearing that the guy sucks. So naturally my question is why in the hell is he still on the roster? When they cut him then I will believe they feel the same way. They absolutely have nothing to lose by cutting him so I’m guessing that they see something out of him. People keep saying he sucks at practice I’m curious to know how many reps a 3 string QB gets during the regular season because if I’m not mistaken it isn’t a lot.

  • Milliken Steeler

    Out of those people you listed, I agree at one point except for Mallett, but others no more because of age, injuries etc.

    I would only take Moore,MCCarron ( Kid has potential) Foles, Daniel and Glennon at this point. We need a future starter at some point and to make that list even smaller, McCarron is the only one that showed me he can possibly make that leap, in a limited audition so far.

  • TrappenWeisseGuy ;

    Dunno if Zach lacks physical talent or not. The problem seems to me to be the fact that he’s a space cadet. It’s always possible that he could grow out of it.

  • george

    You said “picked him up” not “drafted” so apparently some people on this blog have reading compression issues. BTW-I think if we don’t sign Landry, we should look at Josh McCown and a lower round draft pick.

  • george

    I think Mallet is still under contract with Baltimore.

  • Charles Mullins

    …he torched us.

  • Chris92021

    My opinion is that I prefer a veteran QB, preferably over the age of 28, to be the backup. I want a guy who has started before and it didn’t work out for various reasons (garbage teams, bad coaching that did not fully develop the talents of the QB, injuries that slowed down the development and growth). In a perfect world, I would want Matt Moore or a Josh McCown type, guys who don’t need a lot of reps during the practice week but a guy who is not going to be overwhelmed (which I thought was a problem with Landry Jones, especially as recent as last season) and can come in and play well enough to give the team a chance to win. Sonny Jurgensen once said that a good backup QB can win you three games during the season. However, if you ask for anything more than that, you are begging for trouble. I just don’t feel Landry Jones can win three games for us in a season. He is a smart kid and a good kid, with a future likely as a QB coach. I think we should move on from him because barely winning against a hapless Browns team is about as good as it will get for Jones.

  • WreckIess

    I edited it after I saw the mistake, but we definitely should look at a veteran back up. Then hopefully we can get get a decent prospect in the 3rd.

  • John Pennington

    We havent seen Zack play in the steeler system yet so until we do lets give himm a chance.He has to prove himself in off season workouts and at camp if he makes it that far but in the meantime the steelers need to draft a qb no way to get around that and maybe sign a backup in the mean time not someone in their late 30s either

  • VaDave

    +1 on McCarron ( and his wife)….

  • RangerBrigade

    To me this all comes down to what the Steelers are willing to spend on Jones. They want to keep him because he has shown he is capable of being a decent backup QB and they also like that he knows the system. We know he has been a decent relief pitcher in games and for all the knock on his starts, he has only started three games. The first one against KC was not too good, the second one against NE wasn’t great, but it wasn’t awful – we all know Ben has played worse at times, and the third against a bad Cleveland team was good and to his credit he did lead the team back to a comeback win. Still, if I were to guess the Steelers are not going to offer too much to keep Landry because they simply do not want to invest that much in the backup. I know folks want a backup who can win game after game, but that isn’t really realistic. The only team in the league who can likely for the most part keep marching on and winning without their star QB is New England because their system is so well in place. My guess is the Steelers will make a decent offer to Landry prior to the draft and if he doesn’t take it they will draft a QB, release Mettenberger, and possibly sign another veteran QB – or possibly keep Mettenberger.

  • Zach6432

    I’d love to see them trade for mcaaron

  • Ray

    It’s hard to find a good third string QB. People are naming all the backups and really who would want any of them starting 16 games. Its important to have a 3rd string who knows the playbook and can take snaps if necessary.

    I do not like Mettenberger as he offers no upside at all.

    You’re right the 3rd string QB gets hardly any snaps during the regular season barring injury, but its more about having someone be familiar with the terminology, plays, players, etc.

  • 804Stiller

    We’ve gone 1 – 1 with Vick and 1 – 1 with Landry in the same season. Of course, Landry, at this point, is way better than Vick but my point is we have enough talent around the QB position to win half our games with a marginal backup QB. I don’t have an issue with them continually trying to get better at that position. With that, I understand, unless you’re lucky, your backup QB is going to be flawed. Heck, it’s not even 32 good starting QBs in the league. If you can win half your games with your backup QB, you would probably take it. If the backup has to play more that 6 games, you’re probably in trouble………..

  • lyke skywalker

    I like Matt Moore.

  • Nolrog

    According to Sportrac, he’s an UFA.

  • Nolrog

    If the back up plays more than a couple games then we are in big trouble no matter who it is.

  • foremania

    It would be great to see Josh McCown or Brian Hoyer as the backup for a year or two. But anyone other than Landry is probably a pipe dream.

  • CP72

    And a pissy attitude….

  • CP72

    I’ve always liked Derek Anderson.

  • T3xassteelers

    Landry has grown on me. No, he’s not a starter, but he’s solid. That said, I wouldn’t trust him if Ben went down for half the season. He played well against the Pats, though.

  • colingrant

    “Now, I am generally in Jones’ corner, and have been for the most part of the past two years, though I’m not sure I can get fully on board with Dulac’s comment about him being in the top fifth of backup quarterbacks in the league. Nor am I dismissing it. But I do believe that there is a fairly gross overestimation of the general quality of the backup quarterback position around the league, so it may well be true.” – Well said and accurate.

  • Josh Gustad

    The grooming of our next QB needs to happen soon. I’d hate to see Ben retire in a couple years and us not have a plan and just throw someone in there. I’m happy Ben threatened retirement because it reminds the front office that that particular time will come, and it will come soon.

  • PaeperCup

    Best Browns QB in at least 15 years

  • dennisdoubleday

    I would prefer to go forward with Mettenberger at $690K than to bring back LJ at $2M or more, which might be what it costs to keep him. ZM and LJ have very similar QB ratings over their career, and ZM’s stats were compiled with a much worse team. Make ZM the #2 and draft a prospect.

  • steelburg

    We are in the last year’s of the Roethlisberger era and the 3rd QB should from this point on be a guy who is capable of replacing Ben in the future. So just keeping him around because he is familiar with what they do and there players I’m not buying that.

  • Jeff Burton

    I don’t believe it’s true that Landry Jones is in the top 20% of backup QB’s but the Steelers Brass has a habit of being delusional about certain players. Sports Illustrated had him ranked as 19th before the 2016 season and I don’t think he did anything to elevate that status. I also don’t see how Dulac can evaluate a 3rd string QB’s talent when he was a late addition, got very limited snaps and wasn’t even activated some games. I think if it is a dead heat talent wise between Jones and Mettenberger the advantage goes to Zach because he has CONFIDENCE in his ability and it shows on field. Jones constantly plays like he’s walking on egg shells, trying desperately not to screw up. Mettenberger also throws a better long ball than Jones, is younger and more fits the role of ‘developmental backup QB’. I think the Steelers should scrap Jones, keep Zach and draft a true developmental starting potential QB in this Draft. Davis Webb played his way into the 1st Rd in his Senior Bowl appearance but Patrick Mahomes may be there in the 2nd Rd. If he is the Steelers should grab him. And call me crazy but if those two aren’t available I would use a 5th Rd pick on Chad Kelly. He has maturity issues but he should have a few years to outgrow them and I’m pretty sure Uncle Jim would be in his ear all that time coaching him up.

  • Jefferson_St_Joe

    They are overrating Jones. In our division, I would take McCarron, Mallet or the worst of Kessler/Griffin before Jones. I’d take McCown, before him, as well. I don’t know every team’s back-ups, but I think most of them are better than him.

    I can’t see him drawing much interest in free agency. He has extended pre-season play that has been less than spectacular and his regular season play has been mostly mediocre, despite the weapons he’s had.

  • RangerBrigade

    Or it might not – from a playing and mentality style perspective I have always compared Ben to Brett Favre. I could see Ben carrying out the drama for 5 years like Favre did.

  • steelburg

    This is exactly how I feel about the situation. ZM has enough experience to be a competent back up IMO. For goodness sake we had Dennis Dixon as our back up QB and he nearly won us a game. I wouldn’t be surprised if ZM turns out to be a better back up then Landry was for this team.

  • budabar

    Those of us who remember the time between Bradshaw and Ben know that Landry jones may be as good as it gets for a long time so maybe we should just keep developing him things could get a lot worse, Bubby Brister or Mark Malone anyone?????

  • Biggie

    I’ve honestly seen very little of Mettenberger, some in college, never impressed me and would figure him to be little more than 3rd team clipboard type. That said from what I’ve seen of L. Jones he is not a starter quality QB and nothing more than an average backup at best. He is definitely not the answer as Ben’s eventual replacement and if he and Mettenberger left and we brought in another vet and a draft pick at some point we’d be no worse off. If they do bring Jones back they need to bring in someone to compete with him as the backup. Definitely need an upgrade at the position considering the amt of time Ben has missed over the years. We need someone who can come in and hold team together to eek out a few wins. I don’t think there is a QB in this draft who can start day one as there has been in the past few years. That said there are a few who could develop into very good starter with time on the bench learning from someone like Ben. Kiser could end up best of group if given time and developed as his mechanics needs work but he can make every throw and has as powerful an arm as any who have come out recently. Problem is he’ll likely go in 1st at some point to top of 2nd at worst and we need to be looking on defensive side of the ball Rd 1, specifically for pass rushing OLB who can cover if needed. Next year might be a better year for QBs lead by Rosen from UCLA.

  • Jefferson_St_Joe

    Gabbert, Hoyer, McGloin, Savage,…

    It would have been easier to list the backups he may be better than.

  • steelburg

    Now what you just said is funny as hell if you think about it. Jones is the worst back up QB in our own division and I tend to agree with you there.

  • Charles Haines

    This piece might have carried some weight if the source was an employee of the Steelers front office instead of an employee of a news paper.

  • Charles Haines

    I can’t think of one QB who played in that gimmicky offense to succeed in the NFL, and there have been dozens. Kelly would be great in the 5th but so many QB’s with marginal talent go in the first 2 rounds I don’t see it as a possibility.

  • RickM

    I agree. Other teams will realize that that one half of good football in a meaningless game against a 1-15 team means little. It’s just a question whether the Steelers realize the same thing after four years. I still see the Steelers offering Jones a Golden-like contract and him accepting it. Colbert loves continuity. If Jones does gamble on FA and there is no interest, the Steelers’ original offer will drop.

  • steelburg

    I agree. Landry is a disappointment to me because I view it like this. Give me any draftable QB I don’t care what round put him behind Roethlisberger for 4 years, and give him the same offensive coordinator for his entire career which is extremely rare in the NFL, and put him in a organization that is as stable as the Pittsburgh Steelers the guy should be much better than he currently is IMO.

  • Kenneth Wilt

    Honestly, I don’t think what the reporter said was that he lacked talent, but what he said was that talent was what was keeping him from being the #2. This only means that his talent was less than that of Landry. It could also mean he has less of a grasp on the offense.

  • RickM

    Agree. He also had the benefit of a tremendous amount of

  • Mike Lloyd

    Jones purportedly being better than Mettenberger is akin to apples tasting better than oranges. It’s all about taste…
    The truth is neither is very good. If Jones was so good, they wouldn’t have chased Hoyer last year.
    Steelers just waiting for the Leftwich/ Charlie Batch type backup to fall into their collective lap.

  • LucasY59

    Hoyer could be that guy or if they really want to go the charlie batch route they could bring in McCown, the problem is that both could be more expensive than keeping Landry, and of course the other problem is that otherberger or a rookie (where there doesnt seem to be much talent in the draft, and even then so a rookie backup on a SB contending team is less than ideal)

    Ben gets hurt enough that they will need to invest in a decent backup, I just hope they dont have to spend too much

  • LucasY59

    could even count on Landry to throw some picks in the SB like O’Donnell (…if they were able to get that far with jones, D would really need to step up)

  • Matthew Marczi

    Do you realize the sort of investment it would take to find a guy who is “capable of replacing Ben in the future”? Besides, I would like to think that our future franchise quarterback would be good enough to be the backup pretty quickly. The third-string QB is rarely more than a warm body.

  • LucasY59

    I would say Laundry was the opposite of what the FO thinks of him, bottom 20% of the backups instead of the top 20%

  • Matthew Marczi

    Mettenberger’s best game pretty much by far was the game against the Steelers. I really think that is being overvalued when people talk about him here. He really isn’t very good at all in my opinion.

  • Matthew Marczi

    The backup played 4 games in 2010 and in 2015 and they made it at least to the Divisional Round both times. That’s just not true.

  • LucasY59

    the reason why Jones is a decent option is because they dont have much for other options (and he could be the cheapest) I think that the continuity could help also, but at the same time he is not a long term option

  • Matthew Marczi

    You do realize people at newspapers covering sports teams talk to people from sports teams, right? That’s how they get information.

  • LucasY59

    Landry got worse the longer he was in college, so it is no surprise he didnt really improve over the last 4 yrs (the last 2 yrs there was a small improvement, but still not good enough)

  • Matthew Marczi

    I think your opinion of the average backup quarterback is entirely too high.

  • LucasY59

    it is definitely less than ideal

  • LucasY59

    no, its that most of the backups aren’t that good, it is hard enough finding a QB good enough to be successful as a Starting QB so having a backup is just as hard if not harder (I guess a better way to say it is that only 20% of the backups are capable of helping a team and the other 80% would only be trying as hard as they can to keep from harming instead, Jones (and his obligatory INTs) definitely falls into the 80% category)

  • Jim Foles

    We make all QB’s look good.. that’s our problem.

  • Jim Foles

    Dulac is the FO?

  • Matthew Marczi

    You might want to dig deeper into those numbers. The only backups who had a better interception percentage in 2016 who attempted at least 50 passes were Paxton Lynch, Cody Kessler, Nick Foles, Jacoby Brissett, Jimmy Garoppolo, Tom Savage, and Brian Hoyer. The only ones of those who attempted more passes than Jones were Kessler and Hoyer.

  • LucasY59

    “they believe Landry Jones is better than 80 percent of the other backups in the league” quote that Dulac cited as being from the FO

  • mem359

    Salary cap value:
    Romo – $20M, McCown – $5M, Daniel – $5M, Henne – $4.75M, Keenum – $3.6M, Hill – $3.25M, Stanton – $2.5M, Cassel – $2M, McCoy – $1.8M, Schaub – $1.75M, Mallet – $1.5M

    Too many people seem to think it is easy to get a backup QB (no desire to compete as a starter) with a salary in the vet-minimum range who will be obviously better than Jones. I agree that the Steelers shouldn’t overpay to keep him, but almost all the guys on your list (not on a rookie salary) will cost quite a bit more than the Steelers are likely to pay LJ.

  • RealSteel

    I am not sure what that means “He lacks talent”. Honestly, he may have the best arm on the team. Is it concerns about his accuracy or ability to read a defense?

  • RickM

    You’re dealing with a small sample size (4 TD’s and 2 INT’s). And we both know that’s because of his 3 TD’s versus 1 INT versus 1-15 Cleveland on our home field. That’s not to take away from his second-half effort, but other than the Cleveland game accuracy has always been an issue for him.

  • Jim Foles

    Do you think the front office would say that Landry was the bottom 20%??

  • Kick

    Landry Jones is a good QB, he is better than almost every QB the steelers have had over the last 20 years not including Ben or Kordell.

  • Lee Foo Young

    Well, he IS 0-10 as a starter. “Talent” goes wayyyyyy beyond having a strong arm. There’s a reason Tennessee let him go. Whatever his issues are, he is just not good enough overall.

  • Lee Foo Young

    Josh….Big Ben-like QBs don’t grow on trees. Look how many teams’ starters are terrible. Once Ben goes, no matter HOW much grooming we do, of the guy doesn’t have the overall talent, we’ll be in for a down period. It’s a fact of life in the NFL.

  • HiVul

    I agree about where Jones would rank and I’m not convinced that the Steelers even believe some of the things they put out there. In 2015 they didn’t think enough of Landry to put him in for Mike Vick until he got injured. But apparently in 2016 he turned a corner and is now a top backup in the league heading into next season… I don’t know about that.

  • LucasY59

    I would say it, but the FO obviously would not (even if they thought it)

  • Matthew Marczi

    His accuracy is comparable to other backups as well. It’s pretty much what backups do. Look at Charlie Batch’s numbers. Look at Bruce Gradkowski’s. He also dealt with a number of drops and players not making plays they should have made, particularly in the Cleveland game when he was playing with Rogers, Hamilton, DHB, and Ayers as his receivers.

  • RealSteel

    He was 0-10 when we signed him, that hasn’t changed. So I want to know (without playing in any games) what the Steelers have been able to identify (in his practice) that makes them believe he is lacking talent. And if that is true, why he is still on the roster? Or is Dulac’s comments more his opinion, rather than Tomlin’s.

  • Josh Gustad

    That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. So you’re saying just wait for Ben to retire and be ready to suck? If the front office plans correctly they can draft a QB in the early rounds either next year or the year after and groom that person until Ben is done. It’s what Green Bay did with Rodgers and Favre and I see no reason why we can’t use a early round pick on a QB for the future. Look how many teams/scouts fail to analyze great QBs in the league now. Carr was a 2nd rounder, Dak was a 4th rounder. Not that we will get a late gem like Dak in the 4th, but there is no reason for us to wait for Ben to retire and say, “Welp it was fun while it lasted.”

  • Charles Haines

    You simply reported another reporters opinion.

  • dennisdoubleday

    He’s had roughly equivalent stats to LJ’s, while playing for a much worse team.

  • treeher

    His career stats aren’t THAT bad, considering he played for a crappy team.

  • Steve

    Few years ago plp were asking for Landry’s head. After a few decent games, he don’t look too bad. Give Zach a chance, it may change your perspective, like Landy did.

  • Matthew Marczi

    Somebody who has access to coaches and practice. An informed opinion.

  • Steve

    As a backup QB, Charlie Batch was much better than Landry Jones.

  • Steve

    Cowboys Drafted Dak in the 4th round.

  • Steve

    Matt – Can you do a write up on Mettenberger. His numbers were not too shaby two years ago. That would give us something to go off of.

  • Steve

    Josh – You are absolutely correct. Steelers need to Groom a new QB to take Bens place. Ben has a year or two left, this should be utmost priority.

  • Constantinople

    you mean reading “comprehension”?

  • francesco

    I’m not looking for talent in a backup quarterback. I’ m looking for leadership. Landry does not have presence. Landry = three and out!

  • NimbusHex

    “they believe Landry Jones is better than 80 percent of the other backups in the league”

    The front office must hang around Bell and Bryant a lot. I’ll say he’s better than 20 percent of the other backups in the league.

  • Michael Conrad

    I have no idea what Mettenbeger has to offer. I do know what Jones has to offer and its not much if you need to use him in a game or two ok but chances are he will not do well.

    I think Jones is in the bottom 10 of backup QB’s. I think what you have is a very clever ploy by the Steelers to let Jones go FA look around and sign him cheap so sure they will built him up a little by putting info out to a Steeler stooge media guy like Dulac.

    I think he is at best you know what he is and comparing the alternatives they are ok with him.

  • kjacksonpgh

    I can’t say that I watched very many Titian games unless they played the Steelers. What type of team did he have as it relates to an offensive line? Who were his receives and RB? I have watched Landry Jones and he is surrounded by talent on this team but when he drops back to pass it is frightening. He has known this offense for 4 years and he still makes some very awful mistakes with the ball. I find it hard to believe that he is the only QB we can find to backup Ben. I also find it hard to believe that the Steelers can’t find a better option for a backup QB.

  • Chris92021

    This isn’t about money. This is about who’s the best backup QB. Landry Jones ain’t it. You can argue about “the best backup QB money can buy” but that isn’t the discussion here. The discussion is, is Landry Jones a top 10 backup? The answer is a clear no and frankly, the Steelers front office has acted on that no several times. The Steelers front office loved Landry Jones so much that they brought in Michael Vick in 2015 and brought in Zach Mettenberger in 2016.

  • Chris92021

    Are you kidding? Charlie Batch was light years ahead of Jones. So was Mike Tomczak.

  • Dan

    I’m no fan of either, but if Mettenberger lacks talent, why sign him to begin with? I still just don’t see it with Landry. Hopefully another team gives him a bigger contract than the Steelers can.

  • RickM

    I’m just not big on selective stats. I could pull McCarron out, never threw a pass in the NFL before his first start last year and he ends up with 6-2 TD-INT ratio, a 66% completion rate and several wins…far better than Landry has ever done in four years. Both of us could make valid arguments with the right stats and back-ups selected.

    I just look at Landry and see one win in 4 years, albeit with limited opportunities. And that win was against a 1-15 team at home. He was cringe-worthy in the first half, but of course looked super in the rest of the game. I also see a generally poor pre-season record. I appreciate that you feel he is adequate for our needs, I just don’t think that he can beat a decent football team as a back-up starter. There are lots of other guys out there who I think could, from time to time that is.

  • 20Stoney

    He actually looked half ways decent playing for that crappy team. He seems to have regressed for whatever reason.

  • Matt Manzo

    There’s a lot of those people on here.

  • John Gerard

    I agree with your assessment. LJ has always appeared to me, at least the majority of the time. that he is not up to the speed of the game. He has a tendency to wait until his receivers make their break and then throws. Every once in a while he gets it right. You would think that after all the years he has been in the Steeler system he should know where his receivers are going to be and get rid of the ball sooner. He very rarely ad libs which makes him very predictable and will stare down a guy, as he did on Burfict’s interception in the playoffs last year and in the end zone against the Pats. The confidence level with him in there doesn’t seem to be on the rise and by now he should have shown more improvement. I think it’s time to at least get some else in who has a chance to better the situation as I don’t see LJ getting much better. Whatever happens it will be very interesting upcoming season after the excitement and drama of 2016.

  • Kick

    I’ll give you batch, I forgot about him. No way on tomczak. You give Landry his time in the game and I think he would be better.

  • Kick

    I forgot about batch.

  • Matthew Marczi

    Do you see another Dak Prescott in the draft? Quarterbacks like him and Russell Wilson are the exception, not the norm.

  • Chris92021

    Tomczak went 15-12 for us, including a 10-5 record in 1996 which included a playoff win. Landry Jones had trouble barely beating the hapless Browns in a meaningless game. And at this point in his career, Landry Jones is who he is. He isn’t magically going to get better. Let it go man. The Steelers are not going to miss Landry Jones if he leaves. Not even a little.

  • Matthew Marczi

    He did lead game-winning drives against the Cardinals and the Raiders in 2015.

  • TrappenWeisseGuy ;

    I can agree with that. A bit of growing up and maturity just might go a long way with him. It makes sense that the team will pump up Landry’s tires until they no longer need him.

  • Kick

    Tomczak wasn’t anything special, he was a decent QB at best. 15-12 hilarious. LJ is .500 with very limited time.

  • Chris92021

    Both of those wins were against the Browns, one of which when Landry was replaced by Big Ben and the other win, it was a meaningless game that needed to go to overtime against a team that went 1-15. Tomczak was good enough to get a playoff win. If you think Landry Jones was better than Tomczak, fine. You are wrong but OK whatever.

  • Rocksolid20

    Glennon from Tampa Bay .

  • Rocksolid20

    Mike Glennon has been a starter and throws a pretty good ball .

  • Back2the50th

    Reading comprehension, not compression. Sorry I had to! 😉

  • RickM

    In the Raiders’ game, yes he engineered the winning FG but it was a very safe short pass that led to a 57 yard gain by AB that set up the FG. And in his relief job against Arizona he threw a safe 10-yard pass to Bryant that turned into an 88-yard gain and a Mitchell fumble recovery that set up the other TD. All plays count but his stats were super-inflated by safe passes with long runs after the catches.

    I think he’ll be a Steeler in 2017 and hopefully he can prove me wrong, as Ben seems unable to stay healthy for 16 games.

  • Rick Mooney

    He can’t be any worse than Landry god he’s awful

  • Rick Mooney

    Great post! I say if not give Zak a chance , we thought Lt Walton was never going to be anything

  • Roger Wesley

    I would love to see the steelers give somebody like aaron murray that played for Georgia a chance, he would be a cheap chance at least bring him to training camp and see what he could do, or someone like tyler bray wouldn’t hurt to try those free agents that are inexpensive.

  • will

    How can we emulate the Patriots? They seem to be able to obtain, develop and successfully play back up QBs. Look at Garopolo (sp?) and Cassall (sp?). These men both played well when Brady was suspended or injured. What does Belechek do that the Steelers seem not to be able to do?

  • steelcityrepub

    As a backup qb, i think Landry jones is solid.

  • Steve

    There were a lot of teams that passed on Dak. That’s why he ended up as a 4th round pick, but also Rookie of the year.

  • Steve

    Leftwick was not bad either. He had a big wind up, but could throw the ball.

  • DirtDawg1964

    I don’t know about that. Batch was a 57% passer with a 77 rating. That’s pretty middling. He was really, really nice guy. But a “meh” QB.

    He might have been better, but not light years better.

  • J Jones

    Just draft a qb early and be done. I know all the draftniks are saying this is a weak qb draft but id be ok with the move. Those same folks proclaimed that artie and davis were gonna be busts.

  • J Jones

    Damn wish i woulda caught this yesterday, but i saw 2 mocks with us taking either Mahomes(sp) or Watson in the 1st. Would u be opposed to that?

  • Kick

    leftwich was a decent backup but he was horrible when he was a starter.

  • WreckIess

    I love Mahomes as a prospect, but I’d only take him if the top Edge prospects are gone. With Watson I think you almost have to consider him no matter what the board looks like. He’s about as close to a finished product as you’re going to see in this QB class.

  • J Jones

    Ok, just wondering how steeler nation feels. Seen a lot of ppl dwn on watson, but i would love him in our system.

  • StolenUpVotes

    Then you are vastly overrating a huge chunk of backup qbs in the NFL

  • StolenUpVotes

    Wasn’t just Tennesse that let him go. The Chargers let him walk too

  • Douglas Andrews

    Career= 60.3 completion % 2,347 yards 12 TD’s 14 Int’s and a QB rating of 75.4 He’s only played in 14 NFL games but his numbers aren’t very good.

  • Matthew Marczi

    There are a lot of teams who pass on a lot of players, and 99% of the time it proves to be for good reason.

  • Geoffrey Johnson

    The funniest thing is you never said “drafted” you said picked him up which implies it wasn’t through the draft

  • Wil Masisak

    The problem with Landry is what he’s going to cost if they re-sign him. I can’t see that he will possibly add enough value to cover a big boost in pay/salary cap hit.

  • Wil Masisak

    I am told that “steelers organization” in this case means Todd Haley. Haley is apparently the guy in the organization who loves Landry.

  • Wil Masisak

    How much more time does Landry need to show something? He’s had more preseason work than anyone in the history of the NFL and he’s had a fair bit of regular season work, too. He’s not suddenly going to get any better. He is what he is, and that’s a steaming pile of dumpoff QB crap.

  • Wil Masisak

    The entire league will tell you exactly who Landry Jones is this offseason. Not one team will offer him a contract to come and be the presumptive and/or placeholder starter for their team. Not one team will even offer him a contract reflecting an opportunity to come and compete for a starting job. The Steelers will essentially be bidding against themselves for his talents, and they will overpay.

  • mokhkw

    I recall Dulac reporting on Jones when he first came to the Steelers:

    “Jones, a record-setting quarterback at Oklahoma, never showed much at training camp at Saint Vincent College, overthrowing receivers and, at times, looking wildly inaccurate.”

    And when Jones played his pre-season games he looked awful, even as late as the 2015 PS which was his 3rd with the Steelers.

    I’m of the opinion that Tomlin likes to put his players into positions where they are doing things they aren’t good at, like playing Beachum at RG in the PS where he also looked awful. I guess he figures the weaknesses will be uncovered by other teams so why not work on them now.

    It’s a good approach imo and if Dulac – and the rest of us – couldn’t pick that up with Jones then how do we know he hasn’t missed the same thing happening with Mettenberger?

    I’ve seen both QBs play in roughly the same amount of games and to me they looked very similar. Jones had a much better team around him, the Titans were basically one of the worst teams in the NFL in ’14 and ’15 (2-14 & 3-13). If Jones was on the Titans at that stage he would also have been 1-13 as well.

    Jones, for example, benefited from 2 long TDs from 10 yard passes that were turned into 60+ yard TDs when Bryant & Brown basically ran through and around half of the D. Mettenberger never had one player capable of doing that, let alone 2 or 3.

    I don’t think Dulac or any of us can give a fair appraisal on Mettenberger at this stage because we’ve all shown how wrong we were about Jones not being a capable backup until he proved it in the regular season. Obviously the players they have around them makes a huge difference. Who was he throwing to, the same players who dropped passes from Jones this season and last?

    Strangely, Dulac alos seems to indicate that Jones will be back because the Steelers “don’t look at [the backup quarterback position] as a glaring need”. If Jones is a UFA how could he know that? Free Agency hasn’t started yet so Jones has not received any offers and there are 3 or 4 teams that may view him as being able to compete for a starting job or start until a 2017 rookie is ready to play.

    On both counts I would have to conclude that Dulac doesn’t know what he is talking about.

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  • Kick

    He only has had a few games as a starter. It takes game reps to get better.

  • Wayne’O

    The Cowboys found Dak Prescott in the 4th round of the 2016 draft. Obviously all of the prognosticators, QB Guru’s and the 32 head coaches/GMs of teams didn’t think too highly of him.

    Hopefully the Steelers can find that next diamond in the rough.

  • StolenUpVotes

    That safe 10 yard pass also had him dealing with pressure. Dude had his legs taken out from under him as he threw it. Isn’t that what back up QBs are supposed to do anyways? Make the smart plays and let the studs be playmakers? I take those kind of plays all day from a #2 QB

  • Steve

    This was playing for a crappy Titans team, where he was thrown in his Rookie season. With proper tutelage and decent group around Zack, he can do pretty well.

  • Steve

    Leftwick got hurt a lot also. When he played for the Steelers.he did well.