Report: Steelers In Contract Talks With LB Lawrence Timmons

The Pittsburgh Steelers re-signed veteran linebacker James Harrison on Wednesday and they continue to talk to the rep of another veteran defensive player who is set to become an unrestricted free agent a week from Thursday.

According to Jeremy Fowler of ESPN.com, the Steelers are continuing to talk with agent Drew Rosenhaus this week at the NFL scouting combine in Indianapolis about possibly re-signing linebacker Lawrence Timmons.

This news shouldn’t come as a huge surprise as general manager Kevin Colbert recently admitted that the organization would like to re-sign Timmons if at all possible. With that said, the team might let Timmons explore his free agency options starting on March 9, the start of the 2017 league year.

“Would you love to have him stay? Absolutely,” Colbert said of Timmons last week, via the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. “Does it all fit? I think we can make it fit. At what cost? He has to see what his market is. He’s never been a free agent, and we have nothing against him finding out. Let’s stay in touch as we go through the process. We’d love to see Lawrence finish his career here, and I think he would, too.”

Timmons, who led the Steelers in tackles last season, has stated for some time now that he hopes to end his career right where it started in Pittsburgh.

The Steelers have a long history of re-signing their own free agents just prior to the start of the league year so there’s still a decent chance that Timmons might be back in the fold by this same time next week.

  • John Noh

    Please stay here, LT. Hightower will suck up a lot of the free agency cash for ILBs.

  • Phil Brenneman II

    I am okay either way. I think Timmons is still playing well but I am a big Williams fan and would love to see him get his time as a starter. Seems like such a waste to have him rotting on the bench his whole career. Not that he is necessarily better than Timmons or anything, but he is definitely good enough to start.

  • LucasY59

    I would be totally surprised if a deal gets done over the weekend (AB and Deebo was already a lot) and their attention should be on the draft prospects for the rest of this weekend, next tuesday they could make something happen, but I still expect Lawrence to at least check and see what his market value is before he signs a contract, so that means realistically the deal wont be done until wednesday/thursday at the earliest (if at all)

  • Shawn Winbush

    Good, I think retaining him would be a great idea.he’s shown by his play that he has a good deal of football left in him. I like V Williams, but he doesn’t improve the defense anymore than having LT in there. If he did something greater than LT , my opinion would change. Let him continue to teach this young defense, be that positive locker room presence. Let him finish his career where he’s put his heart and soul. I think he and the FO want this, so a reasonable contract will get done. #Steelerforlife

  • Dan

    Indeed would be a shame if he had a Chris Hoke career.

  • Steelers12

    Please don’t overpay

  • Sam Clonch

    Don’t think our cap guy (Omar Kahn) is really involved in scouting. He gets told to sign a guy, and he does it. He’s not out there deciding who to draft. He already knows what they’ll cost.

  • Ace

    3 years 15 million my guess. He will be back.

  • Shane Mitchell

    Good news, we need him back.

  • LucasY59

    yeah but Colbert is in Indy and even though he doesnt need to be there to get the deal done he will probably want to be

  • Jeff Papiernik

    Anyone else think they should go younger and maybe get a Zach Brown or a Kevin Minter?

  • Jeff Papiernik

    But only for one team

  • Michael Mosgrove

    not me. itll be timmons or a draftee.

  • Jeff Papiernik

    I’m not saying those two aren’t the more likely outcomes. But maybe it’s not a bad thought especially if it’s going to take $6-7 million and a multi-year contract to keep him around, a player past his prime on the wrong side of 30.

  • capehouse

    I’m going to say 3 years 12 million. Steelers discount.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Here’s my take: There is a marriage to be reconsummated here. Both sides want it to happen and so it likely will. Why? Because there are more costs and pains and agony involved in breaking up for good, than most people think about when they think about the numbers and a player playing. If Timmons, at this point in his career, were only interested in money, he’d probably be gone. As I think SOMEONE out there may pay him because in the new NFL, teams that are ridiculously under the cap, HAVE to spend that money. And the teams will look at his production, leading us with over 100 tackles, and pay him the 7 million per year or even more, that he may dream at night about having.

    HOWEVER, is getting 7 million per year to go play for the Clevelands of the world, better than staying put where you have been your entire career and making 5 million per? I know, easy for me to say that difference, right? No, it’s easy for TIMMONS to say – since he has already intimated just how great his desire is to stay in Pittsburgh. If we offer Lawrence 3 years and the 15 million, I believe he comes back. 3 years and 18 million… and he’ll run back to us. 3 years and 12 million, which is what I’d hope he’d sign for, maybe will make him sit and think on it. 3 years and 9-10 million, if that is our ceiling, then he’ll probably walk.

    So that is where negotiations have to happen, just like in any good relationship. A little give and take. Now, here is the spot where Pittsburgh probably feels comfortable… Not only do they have a guy waiting in the wings to potentially take over this spot if need be, but they ALSO have to consider what I’m not sure if most of us actually have. And that is, it’s all fine and dandy and helpful and beneficial, to have LawDog play ILB for Pittsburgh in 2017. But… what about 2018? And especially what about 2019??? Is signing Lawrence and bringing him back, the smart move to do, for the years beyond this current one? That’s the rub. That is what has to be the thought out part. Because sure, we can sign him to a deal we can live with for this season, but if we do the 3 or even 4 year deal which is likely, is that the wisest move to make going forward?

    As the Dude would say: “Ya know… Lotta ins, lotta outs, a lotta what-have you’s..”

    So we need to sell Lawrence on the obvious. Sure, you can take some money elsewhere and uproot where you’ve been for a decade. But how many teams are realistically going to compete for a championship this next year? And is it going to be a team that is willing to pay you? We are, I can guarantee you that. And we are, willing to pay you. No, maybe not top dollar, but hey, we love you, you love us, and so let’s do the right thing and renew these vows. For the sake of the kids. Think of the children, Lawrence. Think of the children…

  • RickM

    Can’t say I’m surprised given how well Shazier and Timmons matched up. But I was hoping he’d move on and we’d find out if the doubters were right – that his 143 tackles (playoffs included) and a couple of sacks and picks can easily be replaced. Let’s see what Williams or a draft pick can provide.

    If he signs, the drumbeat of ‘he’s not worth it’ and the criticism after every failed coverage and missed tackle will continue through 2017 and beyond. Give me the strength. Move on LT and give the critics what they want. And for those who want a guy with his stats to sign for $3 M a year in a $167 M salary cap era, with all due respect, get a clue.

  • Brendon Glad

    He’s probably worth the price. I imagine ILB’s have relatively low-value in the market. Because he would be an old-dog learning new tricks as a 4-3 ILB. I would think 3/10mil or 2/7 would get it done.
    Anything much more should be done with hesitation. There’s still Bell and Tuitt to secure. And they are much more important.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    I got faith in the front office to know what’s best for the team and erasing question marks that I have!

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    I don’t think he wants a whole lot, but you never know. Like you said tho he really wants to stay and we’re not gonna stop him! I’m just thinking of them back to back sacks on Matt Moore! *Rubs hands like Birdman*

  • Jaybird

    Nah I’d love to see Timmons back. Hopefully he doesn’t get gaurenteed money three years down the road , but I’d love to have him back for at least two years. I’m not a fan of Williams as a starter at all. The guy is a back up, gets paid like a back up , and has even said he is a back up. If it walks like a duck …….

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    So if Harrison signed for 2 years / $3.75 million, Timmons should be about the same, right? : |

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    I did a stat breakdown a few weeks back, and (believe it or not) Vince Williams averages more tackles per snap than Lawrence Timmons.

    I don’t think we’d see a very big drop off (production wise) at THIS point in Timmons career if we started Williams full time.

    We’re paying Vince less than $3 million/yr (including signing bonus). How much more is Timmons really worth?

    The biggest issue to me is (in my opinion) Timmons should not be on the field on passing scenarios. So how much is a two down run stuffer worth? And why can’t Williams handle those duties?

  • Phil Brenneman II

    Yeah man, you don’t have to convince me lol. I think if you go look at the numbers Vince had the single best game of any LB this year. Was it 16 tackles?

    The dude can ball. I don’t think he can cover sideline to sideline as well as Timmons but I think you could make the argument that he is a surer tackler than just about anyone out there.

  • TroymanianDevil

    For the right price… I love Timmons, but for the right price

  • Steelers12

    i would think so but i think he will demand one

  • Steeler B

    8m x2 year deal is my comfort zone

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  • Frank

    I want Law-Dog to retire a Steeler. And as for Drafting 1, if we resign Timmons, we don’t have to Draft a MLB, at least early. We have Timmons, Shazier, backups V.Williams, S.Johnson, Fort, Matkavich… We have other needs, then replacing a starter who knows our system.

  • Frank

    Harrison is 39, Timmons 30.

  • Frank

    The Steelers usually let the other team make the deal, the other team will make it’s deal & the Steelers will counter, considering it’s close & want to spend the offer amount.

  • RickM

    Ideally most of us would like a two-year deal, but they’ll have to do three likely. As you say, if we set it up that we can release him, or get a pay cut in Year 3 that would be best. I imagine $5 Million a year will be required, but maybe we could get him for $4.5 M. I don’t think he’ll go lower, but we’ll see. Anything higher than $5 M, let him go. I agree on Williams. I think if Timmons leaves we’ll draft an ILB in Round 2 or 3 guaranteed. They wouldn’t be in negotiations with LT if they thought Williams was the answer.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    I was being sarcastic

  • RickM

    If he gets the $7M it will likely be with with the 9-7 Titans and LeBeau who just missed the playoffs. They have lots of cap space and need ILB help. And it would of course be a natural landing spot in terms of comfort level. I’d bet against him getting that big a deal, but the money is flowing so who knows.

  • Wonder where Timmons ranks on Steelers all time tackles list

  • A lot of facets involved, you know, a lot of interested parties.

  • JB Burgess

    Remember, Cleetus Butler would like to have a 32 yr old Timmons chase WRs all over the field. Let him walk unless you are only going to use him in the base defense and sit him during the 5 and 10.

  • JB Burgess

    Timmons 31, going on 32.

  • JB Burgess

    No they dont. This defense wasn’t that good, partly because Butler had Timmons chasing WRs. Trash schematics

  • Conserv_58

    As, Colbert said, it all comes down to how much money, he and his agent, Drew Rosenhaus are looking to get.

    Letting him test the open market is the best strategy. Let him visit other teams and see what they envision his role would be. Let him see what their team culture is like and the type community they play in. As Kevin Colbert said in an interview with Bob Labriola and Missy Mathews at the combine yesterday, it gives players a better perspective and appreciation of what they have in Pittsburgh. Some player choose to leave and some players gain a whole new appreciation for how good they have it in Pittsburgh.

  • Justin Warrenfeltz

    Timmons last contract was at an annual average of $12mil. In 2014, a 30-year-old D’Qwell Jackson signed a 4-year, $22 million free agent contract with the Colts. Though Jackson was just cut by the Colts in a cost-saving measure, I think that establishes a comparable market for Timmons. I’d like to see Timmons come back for 3 years / $17 million or 4 years / $20 million.

  • ATL96STEELER

    The Steelers have been one of the lower performing DEF on 3rd down the last 2 seasons….I think they ranked in the mid 20s this past yr. I know it’s not all due to the ILB coverage, but they are a part.

    We know VW can tackle…the knock on him has always been in coverage…now that Timmons is not a whole lot better in coverage I could live with VWill as the starter, but either way they need to find a better solution on 3rd down because I don’t expect the pass rush to get a whole lot better next yr.

  • Phil Brenneman II

    I am with you 100%.

    That is another reason I have been harping on a coverage safety as a high priority. I know I am beating a dead horse but I think Mitchell is a liability too often but even if we set that aside, if you get a coverage safety you could work him in on third down packages now as an extra DB without straight up replacing Mitchell. Then when Mitchell finishes his contract you can move the new safety into his spot.

  • Guest12

    I think he means his contract will set the market high for the rest.

  • Guest12

    This is where I think drafting Peppers in the 1st round (if he is still there at 30) would be the best idea for us. He can be like an old school monster back.