Brooks 2017 Mock Draft 4.0: Steelers Select Notre Dame QB DeShone Kizer 30th Overall

NFL Network draft analysts Bucky Brooks certainly has quite a few interesting selections in his latest mock draft that was released on Wednesday and especially when it comes to his choice for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Brooks now has the Steelers selecting Notre Dame quarterback DeShone Kizer with the 30th overall selection in the first round of the 2017 NFL Draft and he writes:

Big Ben announced his return for a 14th season but the Steelers could start preparing for his eventual departure by drafting a QB1 of the future at this spot.

Well, isn’t that special.

While the Steelers appear to be very interested in selecting a quarterback at some point during this year’s draft, it’s still hard to imagine them spending their first-round selection on the position. Additionally, while the team has already brought Patrick Mahomes, Joshua Dobbs, and Nathan Peterman in for pre-draft visits this month, Kizer has yet to visit Pittsburgh to meet with the team.

While we wait to see if Kizer winds up being one of the Steelers 30 allotted outside pre-draft visitors, its probably worth noting that offensive coordinator Todd Haley did attend the Notre Dame pro day a few weeks ago and presumably to get a closer look at the young quarterback.

At this year’s scouting combine, Kizer, who completed 60.8 percent of his passes for 5,809 yards and 47 touchdowns in the 25 games that he played in at Notre Dame, measured in at 6042, 233-pounds. He was a two-year starter at Notre Dame and is only 21 years of age.

In Brooks’ three previous mock drafts, he had the Steelers selecting Alabama edge rusher Tim Williams in two of them and Temple linebacker Haason Reddick in the other. The Steelers brought Williams in for a pre-draft visit on Tuesday.

2017 NFL Draft Player Profiles: Notre Dame QB DeShone Kizer

 

  • Michael Mosgrove

    no. just no. you dont draft first round for depth. period.

  • Sam Clonch

    Lol, that’s what I kept telling everyone last year when they were arguing for Billings!

  • Sam Clonch

    I don’t see the point of drafting a QB in later rounds this year. Talking single digit % chance of those guys becoming above average starters.

    Hoping that they are just familiarizing themselves with the process so that they will know what they’re doing in the next year or two, hopefully when the QB class is better than this years.

  • Putter

    ok, I’ll take the bait and presume he’s right. Is Kizer a surefire/legit franchise QB? If the answer is ‘no’ or ‘possibly’, then it becomes a doubly bad idea.

  • Lee Foo Young

    I’ll take the bait, too. Do we have any idea at this time? Who knew that Ben would end up arguably the best QB of that first round?

  • Lee Foo Young

    Go back and look at the first round of the draft and see how many QBs have failed. More fail than succeed despite the pedigree.

  • Ryan Alderman

    If hypothetically we do select a QB, that tells you Ben has told team this is his swan song. Even if that were the case I’d still be stunned if they went QB first round. They won for years with defense and a bruising run game. They have the bruising run game, have some serious weapons on offense, and are improving on defense. They’d be better off staying the approach and getting the defense back on top versus reaching in a weak class of QBs, and they know that as well as anyone after witnessing the debacle taking place seasonally now in their own division from their once upon a time chief rival.

  • Putter

    Fair point, although consensus had him in the Top 3 and we drafted him at 11.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    NO!

  • Sam Clonch

    I actually did that last week, lol! My success rate since ’98 came to about 40% for first rounders. Which is much, much higher than the 4% for rounds 4-7, and the 7% for rounds 2-3. Thanks for giving me a chance to pull that gem out again, lol.

  • Lee Foo Young

    “Bold” prediction: Steelers’ first pick will NOT be a QB and will, in all likelihood be a LB or CB.

    Just a hunch. 🙂

  • george

    His coach stated he should stay in school one more year. What does that tell you?

  • Lee Foo Young

    Fair point, also, but he was rated the 3rd best of those 3.
    My overall point is that more first round QBs fail than succeed. I think I saw a stat once where it was 2 to 1, but that was a couple of years ago.

    We’re lucky….we’ve drafted Ben, Bradshaw and Malone on the first round, so we’re 2-1 for. 🙂

  • falconsaftey43

    To be fair, if they draft a QB in the first round, it’s not for depth. It’s to be the future franchise QB. Just because a guy isn’t slated to start year 1, doesn’t mean you’re drafting for depth. Cam Heyward wasn’t drafted for depth, but took him 2-3 years to become a starter.

  • Lee Foo Young

    I know that it was around 35% if you go back to 1970 or thereabouts.

    So, we can prepare and groom all we want, but the odds are good that we end up with a Tim Couch, than a Ben.

  • Lee Foo Young

    Jarvis Jones wasn’t drafted for depth, either. 🙂

  • Sam Clonch

    Yeah, either way the odds are in the favor of dark days being ahead at the QB position. Which is why it’s unlikely to use a 1st round pick on a bench player, instead of getting an impact guy who will see the field while Ben is still here.

  • Biggie

    I do not want a single one of these QBs in Rd 1. If someone they like alot is there Rd 2 maybe, I’d prefer either looking at a QB from Rd 3 on or not at all. If they feel they can get someone to push L. Jones as Ben’s back who could develop well, then great, but I want to draft one next year which could have 4-5 franchise type QBs coming out. I don’t see a single QB in this draft as a franchise QB. I see between 2-3 that could eventually start and that is it. Alot of Journeymen backups and years of frustration at QB this draft.

  • John Noh

    No. In fact, F no.

  • pittsburghjoe

    Kizer in the first, the guy from Miami in the 3rd, and Dobbs in the fifth. There, that should do it!

  • Sam Clonch

    I don’t follow college ball at all really. Wondering who your 4-5 prospects are though, so that I can keep an ear open for them next season?

  • pittsburghjoe

    They need to draft Taco Charlton so we can be the first team to have a Taco-Bell.

  • Charles Mullins

    That the coach wanted a NFL caliber QB back for another season and the Steelers like to take really young players.

  • Lambert58

    Uh… NO.

  • NinjaMountie

    Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha!
    I don’t know what to even think about this. The only thing that comes to mind is
    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

  • Nolrog

    Comment of the year so far.

  • Donte Williams

    i think the steelers are looking at QBs this year cause they have not done a good job at scouting them in the past i see them taking a QB next year as some are predicting to be a deep class and one of the best to come through in years

  • Sam Clonch

    Haha, perfect cure for all our players with the “munchies”.

  • Donte Williams

    cam came in a system where no rookie was starting till year 3 reason why alot of fans were pissed secondly taken a QB in the 1st round and most likely not seeing the field till year 2-3 meaning you have 2 seasons to see what he is before his rookie contract is up

  • falconsaftey43

    Not arguing for taking a QB in the 1st, just saying it’s not “drafting for depth” He’d be a planned future starter, not a guy they think can be a backup. Wouldn’t even be the same as say drafting a WR in the 1st who, best case scenario is depth because AB, Bryant, Rogers, Coates are all playing to potential.

  • falconsaftey43

    Dulac and others have floated Davis Webb out there as a guy Steelers really like at QB. He’s in late 1st-2nd round conversation some places. That said, what am I missing with this guy? I watch the game against Washington (admittedly a very good secondary) and he looked awful, like undraftable. Seemed like every other through was way off target. Lot of the completions were “unsuccessful” plays (i.e. not getting a 1st down on 3rd or 4th).

  • Kevin Reich

    Ben would let everyone know if it was his last season. He’ll want his farewell tour.

  • Donte Williams

    thats what i am thinking

  • Phil Brenneman II

    It ain’t happening.

  • Sam Clonch

    Haha, good point. Everyone wants to call him a drama queen, but they think he’s suddenly humble enough to keep this to himself?

  • Sam Clonch

    Love your optimism about Coates and Bryant!

  • harding36

    How would Billings have been depth? Hargraves was picked instead and is starting.

  • Sam Clonch

    Yeah, but nobody wanted to concede that Billings would be a typical NT that sees 30% of snaps, and therefore wasn’t worth a 1st round pick. (3rd rounder for a NT in today’s game is about right). All they wanted to talk about was how he could fill in a rotation with Cam and Steph. Basically arguing for him as a backup DE.

  • falconsaftey43

    Haha, yeah I’m not THAT optimistic, just making a point. WR taken in the 1st round could end up starting or could be 4th in the pecking order as depth.

  • Nolrog

    Drafting a QB in the first round makes no sense to me based on where the Steelers are now. We have a team that should be a solid competitor in the AFC for the next few years, and we need to focus on immediate weaknesses, instead of looking to replace a guy who should be here at least 3 more years. That wouldn’t give us the best chance to compete next year and the year after.

  • harding36

    I see. Yeah, I didn’t view Billings or Hargraves as potential 3-4 DE’s (though I thought both had some pass rushing ability as essentially DT’s on passing downs). If Billings gets healthy, it’ll be interesting to compare his career to Hargraves.

    I wonder where Hargraves goes in a hypothetical re-draft. 2nd round? Late first?

  • Sam Clonch

    Good question! Definitely higher than we got him for by at least a round!

  • pittfan

    But Ben may not be back next year. What then? It seems Ben’s proclamations have put his status on a year to year basis. How do you build a team around that?

  • Carl Mendelius

    Kizer is the typical prospect with all the physical and athletic attributes a QB wants to have, but one crucial element is missing: the mind of a QB. Since the QB´s mind is missing Kizer is just another passer or thrower.

  • Sam Clonch

    Ben won’t actually be the first QB to retire for the Steelers, believe it or not. Steelers have also made the playoffs, had deep playoff runs, and also reached the SB, with QBs such as: Mark Malone, Bubby Brister, Neil O’donnel, Mike Tomczak, and Kordell Stewart.

    There’s no reason to think they should panic because Ben is leaving. Better to get the defense stout, to go with a good run game and offensive line, so the next guy has the tools to succeed early like Ben did.

  • John

    This might be the worst first round pick we could make. He came out early and isn’t ready. His coach trashed him. If we could get him in round three, that may be worth it. Round one would be just awful.

  • pittfan

    Oh, I dont believe that for a second. Ben is the only QB the team has ever had. I have no idea who those other guys are.
    Whoa, now that I think of it, I do recall all the winning we did with Malone, Bubby, The Interception machine, Tomzac and Slash. Those were some great years, eh?

  • Sam Clonch

    Lol, they didn’t end result in any rings, but dozen playoff campaigns, 5 conference title games and a SB appearance make me think they shouldn’t waste the last of Ben’s time to worry about his successor. They’ll find someone.

  • TrappenWeisseGuy ;

    I see Bucky’s giving his dartboard a workout 🤡

  • LucasY59

    Bucky might be right, Kizer could be the 30th pick of the draft, the part he got wrong was that the Steelers traded out of the pick and collected a few extra picks from a QB needy team

  • LucasY59

    IF (BIG IF) they pick a QB in the 1st, I would almost expect a final yr announcement, but they wouldnt do so until after the draft since it would be a huge show of the hand to have other teams know that before they tried to draft a replacement

  • LucasY59

    being drafted #11 put Ben on a team that gave him a chance to win early/right away, Eli was lucky to win some SBs, but Rivers might be the most talented of the 3, he has always been on a team that couldnt put it all togeather (Phillip does throw a lot of 4th qtr INTs though so its not all the teams fault)

  • LucasY59

    familiarizing this yr just in case one of them is available and they can make a well educated decision as well, could work to their benefit if they decided to trade this yr, good overall preperation IMO

  • LucasY59

    LeVeon should just name one of his kids Taco (and maybe the middle name Mountain Dew) he could get some endorsement $ and the kid can run for President in 50 yrs (prez of the united states of Idiocracy)

  • Jim

    If Kizer didn’t go to Notre Dame I don’t think anyone would really care about him. He has a cannon but suspect accuracy and instincts. He’s college mobile but not an NFL dual threat by any means. I’m not saying he’ll be a bust, but I just don’t see anything special – definitely not for the price. I would rather us take a mid-late round developmental QB (which Kizer is) and a UDFA or two that we can try to groom. The economics of drafting Kizer just don’t make sense.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    you cant compare a qb in a weak class and cam heyward. first its a totally different situation. ends rotate out. qb’s dont. secondly you take the best player you can in round 1. round 1 is for immediate impact. not for sitting in case of emergency. cam heyward was in a system that sat rookies for 3 years. also because kiesel was still mauling people.

  • Darth Blount 47

    I know Kizer. I’ve met Kizer. He’s a good kid. Fast learner/Smart. Humble guy. Athletic. Could have a real future in this league in the next 5 years. I just HOPE to GOD it isn’t for the Pittsburgh Steelers. At least not while we still have Big Ben.

    Kizer will need to learn and grow some more. He sometimes lacks confidence in himself. And beyond that, he is a risk taker. But not in the Brett Favre – gunslinger – way. More in the.. “I’m not sure what I’m doing – so I’m just going to wing it and hope for the best,” kind of way. Which has always struck me as odd, for a guy that is as intelligent as Kizer is. But it goes back to that trust thing. He doesn’t let things come to him. He forces the issue more than he should sometimes. And the worst part is, he gets down on himself rather quickly.

    I think Coach Kelly was the WRONG kind of coach for him. And although his career numbers were good, and going to be great if he would have stayed, I think he couldn’t wait to get out of South Bend.

    I’d love it if this were a different draft, and we could steal someone like Kizer in the 3rd, let him marinate for 3 years, then unleash him. But we’re trying to win Lombardi’s here. And like now.

  • Darth Blount 47

    You trade for one. You sign one in Free Agency. Or you draft a good one next year. There… problem solved.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Kizer is actually a VERY fast learner. Also, they don’t allow dolts to go to Notre Dame. You’re thinking about Florida State.

  • Rocksolid20

    He doesn’t have to be ready . Not drafting him to start day 1 .

  • Rocksolid20

    I say not at all .

  • Rocksolid20

    Amen .

  • pittfan

    Yeah, they’re like taxi cabs….

  • Zarbor

    What a stupid mock. Never gonna happen.