Report: Roethlisberger Told Tomlin He Wants Another Tight End

Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger shocked absolutely no one last Friday when he made it known that he’s finally decided to play in 2017. Roethlisberger, however, has now also apparently let the Steelers know that he’d like to see them draft another offensive weapon for him later this month in Philadelphia.

“Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger was in this building not less than two weeks ago and he said to Mike Tomlin, “Please get me some more help.” He was lobbying for a tight end, reported Aditi Kinkhabwala of the NFL Network on Monday.

If Roethlisberger does indeed want the Steelers to draft another tight end this year, it makes you wonder just how confident he is that Ladarius Green will be able to continue his career after missing 10 regular season games and all three playoff contests last season with a slowly healing surgically repaired ankle as well as a concussion.

Green, who signed a four-year, $20 million free agent contract with the Steelers a little more than a year ago, did manage catch 18 passes for 304 yards and a touchdown in his very limited playing time last season. Green has given no indication that his past concussion issues will hamper him in the future and the Steelers have given every indication that he’ll be their starting pass-catching tight end moving forward as well.

While the Steelers were busy scouting tight ends around the country during their annual pro day tour, they’ve only brought one in for a pre-draft visit so far this month and that was local product Scott Orndoff, who won’t count against the team’s allotted 30 being as he played his college football at Pittsburgh.

It will be interesting to see if any other tight ends are ultimately brought in for pre-draft visits moving forward. If that doesn’t occur, Roethlisberger might need to prepare himself for the tight end position to be ignored during the draft.

  • Spencer Krick

    You know I went into this draft thinking we didn’t have a whole lot of pressing needs.

    Now I’m thinking we don’t have enough draft picks, haha.

  • MattHat121

    Adam Shaheen in 3rd or 4th?

  • Mark

    How about Ben use the talent he has, by not predetermining before the snap who he’s going to throw the ball to and take what the defense is giving him. We all know that Ben is not the best at reading defenses. His offensive line is giving him all day to throw the football, yet he needs another TE. It is time to invest in a QB to jump start our future.

  • steelersfan

    Aditi strikes again….I seriously doubt the Steelers would entertain that thought in the first round though even if Njoku was there. Having said that, I’d love that pick. Feel like a guy like Shaheen could be appealing though later in the draft.

  • Marcel Chris Chauvet

    Ignoring the tight end position in this draft (the deepest I’ve ever seen at the position) would be a huge mistake.

  • steelersfan

    Ben sucks at reading defenses….that’s becoming the trendy opinion around these boards. Respectfully disagree. If this report is true I think his desire stems from the fact that Green was out for basically the whole year and he didn’t have a number two receiver to take the heat off brown. Having a reliable threat in the redzone isn’t something you can blame him for wanting. I like James and thought he over achieved last season but we can definitely get better at that position.

  • Brian Tollini

    We all know that? I didn’t know that.

  • Marcel Chris Chauvet

    He’ll be gone before we pick in the 3rd.

  • steelersfan

    Yeah the quality in the draft this year really lines up with our needs….better than any year I can remember. Which is why drafting a QB would be incredibly stupid.

  • The Truth

    If they invest in a QB they won’t find any stars this year, IMO.

  • Jefferson_St_Joe

    This comment makes me question #7’s opinion of James as much as Green.

  • LucasY59

    Ben has to wait till next yr to draft a TE early (and getting more toys to play with should help convince him to keep playing after this season …unless focusing on D like they should this yr, makes him throw a fit and want to go play by himself)

  • Michael Conrad

    Well lets see Ben using what he has what did he have AB and Coats then Coats gets hurt and you have a broken Wheaton a broken DHB a broken Green and three slow pokes Rogers and Hamilton and the TE. I agree Ben is not great at reading defenses. last part of the year they ran Bell into the ground all you need to know about the passing game.

  • Marcel Chris Chauvet

    I agree. Especially when you consider value. I would argue that the only QB who carries a legitimate 1st round grade in this draft is Trubisky. But I’m guessing 3 are gone before we pick at 30. No value

  • PaeperCup

    Music to my ears. So many good ones in this draft. Shaheen is very appealing, but Kittle is fast becoming one of my favorites.

  • Spencer Krick

    I second Kittle. Probably not the pass catcher Ben is looking for, but that dude is a pancake factory.

  • Josh Gustad

    He has more to work with than almost every other NFL team.

  • PaeperCup

    I have a gut feeling he will surprise many in the passing game. Iowa didn’t use him much as a receiver, but he looked good when they did. Also performed well at the combine, and his interview there showed he’s confident in his pass catching abilities.

    ON TOP of his blocking which is superb.

  • PaeperCup

    yes and no.

  • Jeff Papiernik

    Give me Leggett or Butt in round 4

  • CP72

    Micheal Roberts is intriguing. Some guys just have a knack for the end zone. Wouldn’t hurt adding some size inside the 20.

  • Redmond Barry

    Better a TE than another WR.

  • Scott Henry

    Hall of Fame QB that can’t read a defense? Mark is not very smart. Ben had AB to throw to last year and that is it. Practice squad players after that.

  • steeltown

    Isn’t a terrible idea, especially not knowing if Green can play an entire season and not knowing if Grimble will develop into a capable starter

  • Micah Walker

    I would draft Engram. He’s different than anything we have. You can also draft him and pass on another receiver as he can move out wide as well. Him or G.Everett would give us a less traditional seam buster in RD2 or 3. If we’re going to go more traditional, the tight end with the bad name in the 4th will do, Butt.

  • Tom Lazaroff

    ummm – I think there was also a dude named Bell who caught some balls… Who did Brady have to throw to in the playoffs? Edelman and practice squad players. But he got it done. Ben didn’t.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Well damn!

  • Andrew

    I feel like one of third round picks will go to an offensive weapon (TE/WR). RB can wait until the fourth. I would be thrilled with Shaneen, Butt, or Kittle in the third.

  • PaeperCup

    My personal opinion…I don’t even see Engram as a TE. He IS just another receiver.

  • TroymanianDevil

    Yes given how deep the class is drafting one in Rd3-4 means we could still get a top flight TE.

    KIttle is a surprise athlete out of the combine. Tested very well to go with his blocking. Like you mention below, Iowa didn’t use him often in the pass game but I think the ability is there. I think he’s the most underrated TE in the draft.

  • Alan Tman

    I’m thinking he wants a move TE, because he can’t depend on LaDarius. Probably, Bucky Hodges, Kittle, or one of the basketball players.

  • WeWantDaTruth

    Martavis Bryant.

  • TroymanianDevil

    Depends on your definition of early. I’m predicting in the first 3 rounds. But only this year given how deep the class is, do I think a 3rd round TE will have the impact of a typical 1-2 rd TE.

    And this is not taking Ben’s wants into consideration. I’m taking one with one of the first 4 picks in my mocks. Plus ( not that the FO would ever give in ) getting the toy this year probably helps more convincing him stay next year

  • PaeperCup

    completely agree. But people are starting to take notice. As far as all around TEs, I’d put him right behind Howard and NJoku.

  • TroymanianDevil

    Evan Engram is still a freak so I’d rank him higher (I’m guessing you didn’t b/c you said all-around TE, but he’s good “enough” for me to be higher) but after that I really like Kittle.
    Let’s pray it’s not the people drafting taking notice tho. I want the option to take him in the 4th.

  • G.R. Messner

    so take a TE in round 3 or 4 instead of the wasted QB pick. I can get behind that

  • PaeperCup

    I see Engram pretty much as a WR. I don’t want to make a direct comparison, but his (Engrams) measurable are similar to Calvin Johnson. Down to size. But that’s a good thing, Megatron was a beast.

  • EdJHJr

    Ever see the comment -Green is done. It was me about 4 to 5 months ago.

  • Big Joe

    Well, there is Engram at the end of Rd 1, Shaheen/Everett/Butt at end of Rd 2, and maybe Hodges/Leggett at end of Rd 3. Who knows but I would think he’d want a Green type of TE to threaten the seam. Anything Green can give them in that area would be a benefit, especially if both of them are on the field. They could clear out the middle of the field and open the underneath for AB and Bell. We’ll see I guess.

  • Ike Evans

    Leggett or shaheen

  • Steeldog22

    Green will not be able to play.

  • capehouse

    Guys got the best O line in the league. The best RB in the league. The best WR in the league. And he’s still complaining. Make it work, Ben

  • Phil Brenneman II

    Yeah I love me some Ben but how many QB’s around the league would trade what they have for a Bell and AB and be completely satisfied. Time for Ben to make his weapons better and not worry about weapons making it easier for him.

  • Big Joe

    In some respect, yes. However, he has no other real threat opposite AB, no real threat behind Bell, and no seam threat if Green is out again. All of those variables came into play late in the season and in the playoffs and our offense couldn’t threaten the opposing defenses and score points consistently. They collapsed on AB, DW wasn’t really a threat to NE, and Jesse James didn’t scare them either. No other WR could command the respect deep or short so we bogged down too many times.

  • falconsaftey43

    He’s one heck of a blocker as a WR. I hink he can play in line a little, but mostly slot, out wide, or out of the backfield. Would do well on H back role.

  • Phil Brenneman II

    I wonder if the team and Ben know something we don’t about Martavis Bryant because there is a disturbing trend of him seeming almost nonexistent. I understand that they can’t fully trust him but if he IS back and our offense still can’t do what they need to do there is something seriously wrong.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Okay, now I’m officially ticked off.

    Let’s go off of the assumption that this report is true. Clearly, it is a hand grenade lobbed directly at one of two people: Ladarius Green or Jesse James.

    And if it is indeed accurate, WHY DIDN’T WE JUST CUT GREEN, DESIGNATE HIM A JUNE 1ST, AND USE HIS 5 MILLION DOLLAR SAVINGS ON A CB?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

    I don’t know…… maybe Logan efffffiiinnn’ Ryan!

    And if that wasn’t a good enough plan for whatever reason, or if Ben feels like Green is actually good to go and he instead wants to roll out 2 dynamic TE’s at once… Does that mean he has no faith in the ability of Jesse James?! I mean, there would be no reason, besides one of those two options, to lobby for wanting, needing, yearning, for a newly drafted, young TE.

    So which is it? Who doesn’t Ben trust?? My money… is on the Porsche in the garage, leaking oil from his head-pan.

  • Marcel Chris Chauvet

    I like where you’re going. But I don’t care for legget or Hodges as much. I’d take Kittle in the 3rd or a guy I haven’t heard mmentioned in the 4th: Jonnu Smith. Played his college ball at FIU. I like him a lot.

  • Jason

    Your opinion won’t be a popular one but I agree to an extent. I don’t think Ben can’t read a defense I just think at times he doesn’t care what defense is being played and as you said he absolutely predetermines where he going a lot, whether it’s there or not. With Brown, Martavis and Bell you can’t ask for much more help.

  • pittsburghjoe

    Yes, or Leggett in the 3rd. I keep mocking Leggett to them at 3A.

  • Darth Blount 47

    I’ve never wanted to trade down, 2 weeks before a draft, so bad before in my life!

  • Darth Blount 47

    It’s definitely a shot at one or the other…

  • Applebite

    Early on in this off-season, I hinted at Bucky Hodges as an option for TE. I still think he’d be a good player to move around in Haley’s offense…

  • steelmann58

    I totally agree think Ben likes Jesse James but i agree he can’t be confident in L Green at all and that why i think the Steelers will be drafting a Pass Catching TE

  • LgFriess

    Here comes Butt!

  • Jason

    Playcalling and execution are our problems inside the 20, not size. Brady lost Gronk and threw to a bunch of midgets and had no red zone issues.

  • Reg Sayhitodabadguy Hunt

    Agreed if I was gm of the Steelers I would look at this defensive draft like it’s a sale at the grocery store and load up on defense and rb an te since that’s where it’s most talented and deep at our offense is already high powered if we can get our defense the missing pieces we’re good and then I know it’s not a popular choice but I would definitely trade up to go after the top qb because our team will already b in great shape

  • T3xassteelers

    Overrated

  • LucasY59

    I wouldnt mind taking a TE in the 3rd, except there are usually still players on D that I would rather have, maybe in the 4th, but I think RB is a bigger need and getting a #2 for the future behind Bell is a priority, after that the TEs that are left are pretty meh

    IF they traded and got some extra picks I would be much more open to picking a TE

  • WreckIess

    Colbert wants Peppers. Ben wants a Tight End. Tomlin wants to play man to man better, get to the QB with 4 rushers, and to “sharpen their sword” when it comes to QB evaluations. Rooney wants to get after the QB better. Looks like they have some conflicting interests and I really don’t believe Kinkwabala all that much. I will say that last time Rooney spoke on what he wanted, the FO listened.

  • James Churchwell

    No disagreement from me on that suggestion.

  • Rotten Sircus

    If only OJ Howard is at 30? The kid Njoku might be there but is he really a first round talent ? I just think we have more pressing needs than TE !!!

  • Rotten Sircus

    I kinda like that pick in the 3rd round !!!

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    Facts

  • Jollyrob68

    I think we all expect a te/wr & rb to get drafted. Probably David Njoku,Everett Ingram, Bucky Brooks or George Kittle late.

  • steeltown

    yea clearly a knock on Green (and Grimble)

  • pittsburghjoe

    I think that is the sweet spot for the TE. We can address Edge and CB in rounds 1 and 2. Take care of TE and RB in 3A and B. Then we can draft FOUR QB’s in rounds 4-7.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    That’s who I would draft, plus he could be had later in the draft.

  • Steve Johnson

    Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! I agree 100%, but they do need a dependable #1 TE, L. Green isn’t the answer. As usual, the Steelers reached for Green after Heath Miller retired.

  • Bobby hains

    LoL funny

  • Bobby hains

    True!

  • francesco

    I would have said..a real back up QB.

  • Terrible Towlie

    or he knows something about Green they aint letting us know

  • Eddie Cruz

    I like how you brought back the Porsche LMAO. Nice!!!!

  • Ryan Alderman

    Haha, I get it.

  • Ryan Alderman

    I’m juat glad it’s finally almost here, dying to see how this thing pans out.

  • Ryan Alderman

    Whatever.

  • Ryan Alderman

    I disagree that Ben cannot read a defense. I think it’s a ridiculous notion from a bunch of layman, myself included, who REALLY can’t read defenses.

  • Ryan Alderman

    Amazing. When this guy hangs them up and the team tanks remember your bravo post. If you don’t I’ll be sure to remind you.

  • Ryan Alderman

    I’d love a stud tight end. Shame about Green, could have been that guy, but it would be foolish to count on him at this point.

  • MC

    Should never of signed green for that much and for that long. A good free agent signing would of been Zach Brown this year instead.

  • MC

    This is the draft to do it. Just a damn shame they never trade down in the first! Sick of our draft stubbornness sometimes.

  • Tony Howell

    Heeeeaaaattttthhhhh WHY YOU GO😣

  • Tony Howell

    Total faith in JJ

  • steelersfan

    Same!!! I’m making a list haha

  • Darth Blount 47

    Agreed.

  • steelersfan

    Yeah at that point they could draft a long snapper and I wouldn’t complain

  • steelersfan

    Right which makes Ben justified

  • JNick

    Mahomes. Though he will be legit in 2-3 years.

  • JNick

    I believe nothing that Aditi says.

  • Steeler-Drew

    There’s times when he may predetermine and force the ball to AB especially when he is frustrated and they are behind but to suggest he is not very good at reading defenses is a ridiculous comment. Lets see where to begin? Coates, Wheaton, Green, and DHB were either injured or couldn’t play. Bryant was suspended for the year. He was throwing to Hamilton and Rogers who had not played a down in the NFL. No true #2 receiver to throw to. And you make the comment how about using the talent he has and suggest investing in a new QB. Get back to me when Ben is gone and let me know how the new QB is at reading defenses.

  • JohnB

    So wait…Can Peppers play Tight End?

  • steelersfan

    I don’t think she’s completely making it up but sometimes it feels like she sensationalizes

  • Marcel Chris Chauvet

    What’s overrated?

  • Shane Mitchell

    2nd round is a WR or TE, book it. when you have a franchise QB you get him what he needs to win the superbowl or he will just retire and we will win about 6 games a season without him.

  • Guillermo Garcia-Gomez

    I agree with Ben, but I doubt the FO placates him and here’s why: they hate admitting mistakes (See Jones, Jarvis and Blake, Antwon). It’s not Green’s fault, but he can’t be relied on to stay on the field. Jesse James seemed to make good progress last year, but I still think he’s best as the second tight end. Even if they wanted another tight end it’s hard to put that need over wr and back up Rb. I’m hopeful on Martavis yet not counting on him.

  • JohnnyFootball

    What else would Ben like? I mean we have spent massive resources on the OL, RB, WR, and even TE if Green can get his marbles back together. I have a hard time thinking of another team that has surrounded their QB with as much, or even close. But sure, let’s make a 2nd TE a priority while the defense suffers yet again.

  • Smitty 6788

    Why does Ben lobbying for TE mean he doesn’t think Green can continue his career? I think its more about James. Ben saw how nice it was to have a move TE now he wants 2. That would then allow James to be a more than capable 3rd TE. Haley loves multiple TE sets even if he doesn’t have the personnel to do so. So why not have a true #2 TE who can serve as #1 if he needs to.

  • Consistent

    Being that they pay Green so much,if healthy Grimble and James will be the guys who lose snaps if you bring another(highly drafted)TE into the fold. I question if the reports are accurate or if he just would like the offense to feature the TE’s more

  • Consistent

    Mr.Rooney wants to get after the QB more…so yea that will be addressed but beyond that I say you still just draft best player available and maybe even skew to the defensive side early. What I don’t like about the report is Ben just last week announced he would be returning but last month he TOLD his head coach he wants a TE?? I think Ben will deny it if asked

  • T3xassteelers

    Trubsiky

  • Michael Mosgrove

    SHA HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

  • walter

    The Green experiment is over. Cut our losses and dump him. Im glad Ben spoke up.

  • Paddy

    Who says Ben can’t read defenses? Where does this nonsense come from?

  • John Pennington

    If the steelers dont draft a tightend in this draft this will be the biggest mistake by this team knowing that they cant depend on Green to play one game without being hurt and cant practice is just stupid. GET Ben a tightend listen to your qb.

  • John

    When Green was healthy, Ben was making him into a Pro Bowler. It was a huge loss when he went out. We need something on O. McCaffrey out of the backfield, a stud WR or a big TE all would likely do it. Let’s hope for the best.

  • steeltown

    They will it just depends on when… I could seriously see…

    Rd1. DB
    Rd2. OLB/DE
    Rd3. TE

  • will

    So Ben leads us on about whether he was going to retire………….then comes out with a “request” for a Tight end????? WOW!!

  • Terrible Towlie

    agree

  • DSG

    Couldn’t agree more.

  • gdeuce

    Did you think the team would come out with an official statement that Jarvis didn’t pan out or letting Blake play was a bad idea? Them not getting second contracts with the team is admitting they made a mistake, because neither one broke the bank in FA

  • DSG

    totally. I know ben is not rogers, but he had a wr playing rb and not near the wr talent. He scored bunches and had a near identical record midseason. and went on to throw like 18 tds and maybe one pic i think.

  • AndyR34

    Or it’s a shot at both!

  • DSG

    well go back and listen to terrible podcast where Ben throws the pic in the redzone against Miami maybe? I can’t remember which game but Dave and Dave talk about how Ben many times doesnt read the defenses well. So that might be where it comes from….that and all the pics he threw straight to the linebackers. He nearly single handedly lost the game against the bills.

  • Taylor Williams

    Yeah, let’s get another TE that Ben can over throw and not use.

  • Josh Gustad

    It just sounds all too much like LeBron at the all star break begging for more players when he has an all star cast. If anything Ben should be pressing for defensive help, not offensive. Name 5 teams with a more complete offense than what Ben has.

  • Shannon Stephenson

    Ben also wanted a big target WR for years ad didn’t get one till Bryant came aboard so I wouldn’t start mocking 1st and 2nd round TE’s quite yet.

  • SoCal Steeler

    Wow! I can’t believe all the criticism of Ben over his alleged request. I mean seriously, you can’t count on Green staying healthy with his concussion. I totally agree that we need another TE to stretch the field. That’s just todays’ NFL offenses. Jesse is fine as a No. 2-borderline No.1 TE but doesn’t have that capability.
    It was painfully obvious in the K.C. and N.E.. playoff games that all a team had to do was double up on Brown and stack the box against the run and our offense was going to struggle. Jesse and Eli made a few plays but just weren’t big threats. All Ben had left was a scrap heap WR in Hamilton and a WR with questionable ability to track and attack the ball at its highest point, as well as questionable hands and broken fingers in Coates. At least Brady had capable and wide open WR’s.
    Getting Bryant back will be a huge addition but also a question mark. Why wouldn’t he ask for more weapons?
    I’m also with Spencer and Darth in that now it would be great to get another pick in that 4th Rd. range.

  • Terrible Towlie

    trade for one of last years QB’s….Cardale Jones,,in Buffalo
    sit a couple more years then replace retiring legend

  • Terrible Towlie

    he’ll pay off year one for the right team(mahomes)

  • Terrible Towlie

    Mahomes

  • Delboka

    I can’t stand articles written by Dave. He is awful at writing and hosting the podcast. I listen since there are limited podcasts that focus on the Steelers.
    I would rather go into a bathroom with Big Ben than listen to this moe.

  • Wil Masisak

    Shaheen is a good player– but that’s way too high for where his value is.

  • Wil Masisak

    I really like the three late round guys– Robert Tonyan, Jr., Derrick Griffin, & Phazahn Odom. I think I’d rather have one of them than any TE besides the first two off the board, as far as a fit in Pittsburgh.

  • Wil Masisak

    Ben might be the best or close to it at presnap reads. The problem he had last year, in particular, is that so many of those reads are dependent on the receiver making the same read, and so many of those guys were new/inexperienced. By the way, your complaints are with the offensive system here, which is very presnap and matchup based, and not so manipulative.

  • Wil Masisak

    You’re greatly underestimating how good the Patriot receivers are.

  • jsteeler

    How about Ben lobbying to learn how to read defenses.
    How about Ben lobbying to not throw bone head interceptions and throw his receivers open.
    Jessie james, David Johnson, Xavier Grimble and Ladarius Green are more than capable in this offense.
    Ben can audible on any play to find a favorable matchup against the defense with his personnel.

  • jsteeler

    2 picks in the 2nd and 2 in the 3rd could really boost up the defense and satisfy depth.

  • jsteeler

    Brady had no pro bowl receivers. Malcolm Mitchell, a 4th rd rookie from Georgia & Chris Hogan, an outcast from the Bills, 49ers, Giants and Dolphins. was the MVP against Pittsburgh in the playoffs. Didn’t Coach Butler & Steelers Defensive backs do film that week?. Quarterbacks make Receivers and visa versa.

  • Conserv_58

    Absolutely! IMO, they could be feigning interest in Orndoff as a smoke screen. I can’t say it enough. Shaheen has Steelers’ TE written all over him. He brings both pass catching and blocking ability with exceptional speed for a man his size that none of the other TE’s on the roster can match. Green is a good pass catcher, but an unwilling blocker. Jessie James is a decent short area TE that can help move the chains, but he’s lumbering slow. David Johnson is Matt Spaeth redux with better hands. Grimble will be lucky to make the final cuts if they do draft Shaheen.

  • Conserv_58

    The fact that Colbert did not choose to deal with Jones’ fifth year option last off season was glaringly obviuos that they were not happy with his development, or lack thereof.

  • Conserv_58

    and?

  • Conserv_58

    Jessie James’ biggest negative is his lack of speed, hence his ridiculously low YAC numbers. It’s like watching a sloth run after he catches a ball.

  • Conserv_58

    IMO, it has to be Green because he spent all of training camp standing on the sideline in sweats because of his ankle injury. He never saw the field until late in the season and then low and behold, he gets another concussion thus sidelining him for the playoffs. It was his not being on the field in playoffs, especially the AFCCG that I think Ben was most upset with.

  • Tony Howell

    As far as I see it YAC is of no concern for a TE, there 2 grab a quick 6 or 7 yards when needed,Jesse has done an admiral job when given the chance!

  • Böröndi Krisztian

    Inaki Villanueva

  • Conserv_58

    Jessie has value and his place is as a short area TE that does a good job of finding an open spot. He helps move the chains, but he is never going to outrun the coverage.

  • Conserv_58

    This comment was brought to you by a fan of the cleveland browns.

  • Tony Howell

    Well said,spot on!Move the chains,isn’t that the object of the game?

  • Phil Brenneman II

    If Ben is mad about losing to Brady he should be telling Tomlin to get the defense more help.

  • Paddy

    Not one Steelers coach or player has ever said that. Not one,

  • SilverSteel

    Dude, that was harsh. You should apologize. It’s the offseason. There is not a boatload of topics to chose from. These guys put out way more quality articles than anyone else on the internet.

  • SilverSteel

    yep

  • SilverSteel

    If we take Shaheen, I would be thrilled. Also, there is a least a few more TEs available in the first 3 I would not mind having if we don’t get Shaheen.. This draft is loaded with our needs. can’t wait…

  • SilverSteel

    Right on Conserv. But I would not be surprised to see Grimble take a big leap for the better this year.

  • SilverSteel

    Man, if you don’t think James is a good #2, you just aint watching close enough. The kid was money so many times late in the year and we would have missed the POs without him. He’s getting better weekly.

  • Ryan Alderman

    Has no faith in Green staying healthy.

  • Ryan Alderman

    James is a lock imo. Grimble would be odd man out.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    Thank You Wil –

    For bringing some names into the discussion that most people don’t even know about.

    Tonyan is actually a perfect red zone compliment for Ben. He catches all the types of passes Ben likes to throw (sometimes with just one hand) and he tested much better than i thought he would at his pro day (if those numbers are accurate) 4.58 forty and 1.53 split, at 6’5″, 235 pounds. That’s nearing Travis Kelce type numbers.

    I do worry about his “taunting” attitude (every time he makes a play) but that can be corrected. What I don’t worry about so much is his level of competition because he competes for contested balls so well, that is going to translate to the NFL smoothly.

    Griffin I’m a little less confident about, but I also view him as a high ceiling candidate (much like Martavis Bryant). Tall, fast, and now suddenly 245 pounds? He’s kind of a freak. I just don’t know if his skills are refined enough. Maybe a 2-3 year project.

    Odom might be the most interesting prospect of them all because he’s a dual threat dominant blocker and dominant receiver (at least at his level of competition).

    To my untrained eye, it appears as though he understands how to set up his routes, like a crafty WR (hesitation moves, double moves, etc). And the dude is like 6’8″ 245. Are you kidding me? He’s like a young Martellus Bennett. (I wish I knew how fast he ran?)

    Any way, good work Wil. You’re making me rethink my whole mock draft.

  • Darth Blount 47

    I can understand why…

  • Guillermo Garcia-Gomez

    No, but I thought after 2 straight years of him not getting within a mile of the quarterback would’ve lead to him losing snaps and his starting position instead of opening each year as the starter. I also thought after Blake constantly got burned deep (so much so that he set the NFL record for yards given up in a season) that they’d play the superior Boykin over him. Nice try though, you really proved me wrong by showing they kept them in the lineup for full seasons and then decided not to play them lol

  • Marcel Chris Chauvet

    Look at Jonnu Smith

  • Marcel Chris Chauvet

    I’m not saying it isn’t . But I’m telling you he’ll be drafted early to mid 3rd round.

  • Luke Edgerley

    absolutely get him a TE after pounding the 1st three rounds with defensive help & another rb (yes please on perine and his jerome bettis feet), maybe everett , leggett, shaheen or kittle are there in the 4th , go ahead and get him some TE help.

  • NW86

    Actually I think that opinion of Ben was trendy circa 2010, back when Mike Wallace was a hall of famer, Antonio Brown was never going to amount to anything, and William Gay was a piece of garbage (before he got good, then became garbage again). I haven’t seen much about Ben not being able to read defenses in years.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    then listen to snr.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    we havent had massive draft resources on wr in years. neither for te or rb. as for our defense suffering. picking an edge in the first and a cb in the third would be fine.

  • Mark

    People tend to ignore the results other QBs have with mediocre WR and TEs and give Ben the benefit of the doubt. I’ve watched every game that Ben has played as a Steeler and can remember the back breaking INT’s he has thrown in crucial situations. He doesn’t make avg WR great he blames them.

  • will

    And Ben should just be quiet and learn from the Master and focus his attention on more studying of his opponents.

  • John Phillips

    Green has also given no indication that his past concussion issues will NOT hamper him.

  • walter

    My comment was a little harsh but i think Green will be given one more chance because we just cant count on him and we should draft a TE

  • walter

    Are you sure you are not thinking of Mark Malone?

  • Mark Tercsak

    There is nothing wrong with Jesse James, the tight end that they have. Quite frankly they didn’t need to bring L. Green on board. Ben should shut the muck-up and improve upon his skills as a quarter back he is very sloppy at times. Just compare him to Mr. Perfect Tom Brady!

  • Mark Tercsak

    What the Pittsburgh Steeler players need and organization needs is a swift kick IN the balls, they lack discipline individual as well as team, Mike Tomlin is not the man for the job, he’s to close to the player’s and staff. They need a USMC Drill Instructor. The

  • StrengthOfVictory

    I’m sure Ben loves Green—when he’s healthy. Just as I’m sure he loves Martavis—when he isn’t suspended. But those are the giant questions mark, aren’t they?

    Last offseason, Ben talked about Green like he was a luxury car he couldn’t wait to drive. But if Green is potentially so fragile that one hit to the head keeps him out indefinitely (as it did last year), that’s at best, a huge gamble … and at worst, a waste.

    We’ve all seen the game-changer that Bryant can be, but can his reinstatement be taken for granted? Or his reform once he is? Steeler Nation wants him on the field, but that’s no guarantee.

    With all this in mind, Ben is likely looking at the offense without Green and without Bryant—because it’s clear he can’t count on either one. And from that perspective, he DOES need a weapon.

  • Smitty 6788

    Ben needs another TE because if Green goes down. He’s throwing to JJ, David Johnson and Xavier Grimble. Has 0 with him reading defenses.

  • Smitty 6788

    Ben wanting a TE does not mean 1st rd pick .. There are 7 rounds in an NFL draft.

  • Aj Gentile

    Wow a rape joke. You must be a great person.

  • pittfan

    I recall Outlaw coming up big several times down the stretch. X was showing flashes as well.
    Green is the real Joker in the deck. We just can’t count on him

  • Wil Masisak

    FYI, there is zero cost savings in cutting Ladarius Green until his salary fro 2016 becomes vested when and if he’s on the team for Week 1 of the regular season. He got no bonus this year– all salary. The safest thing is to keep him until either they draft a replacement and find out he can play right away OR he cannot be medically cleared.

  • Wil Masisak

    Riiiight.

  • Wil Masisak

    It’s not about their pedigree– Edelman is tremendous. Bennett a very good TE, Amendola and Hogan are very very good at what they are asked to do. Their RBs are excellent targets. Malcolm Mitchell has potential to be a very good possession receiver.

  • Wil Masisak

    I like Jonnu a lot– but Everette & Jonnu are, I think, more suited to be the Aaron Hernandez/Jordan Reed type, rather than the tall seam buster Green is. I’m not sure that’s the best thing to add to this offense as constructed. Thing about Griffin is: he was a 5 star WR coming out of HS. He played against and beat top tier talent at that age/that position. He has skills. He’s physically almost exactly Ladarius Green, but he appears to have less stiffness and more WR like skills. Just underdeveloped because of the path his academic skills sent him on.

  • Wil Masisak

    Oh, and Tonyan loves to talk smack. He is MADE to be a New England Patriots player. He totally fits their profile and I’d almost be shocked if he goes anywhere else. He’ll be yet another guy that comes out of nowhere to be a stud there.

  • Wil Masisak

    Another name is Andy Avgi from Western Oregon. He’s a 270lb Power Forward turned TE, who tested like a freak outlier Edge player. 35.5″ vert, 10’2″BJ, 4.29 SS, 7.07 3cone He looks pretty good on tape as a TE… but his future might lie as a LT. Great quickness… confirmed by 1.65 10 yard split Soft hands, though.

  • TroymanianDevil

    Haha I get what you’re saying. And agreed, hence why’d I’d take him over Kittle even tho Kittle might be a better blocker

  • Darth Blount 47

    This contradicts EVERY single site that I have read about Green’s contract on. Can you point to where you have gotten this particular information? I mean, because I can point to numerous sites that have said that cutting Green this year, pre-draft, and designating it a post June 1st cut, would save us his 5 million dollar salary. Which obviously, is money we would use later on in June/July etc..

    And that if we were to have cut him earlier this off-season, the savings would be immediate, but NOT the 5 million figure. The dead money hit for doing so would also be greater if we would cut Green outright, than if we indeed would make him a post-June 1 cut.

  • Marcel Chris Chauvet

    Ah ha. You are looking for a replacement for Green. And I agree Griffin is a more athletic Green type. Not surprising given his basketball background. Another vertical threat is not at all what I am thinking of in a tight end. I also doubt that Green is going anywhere. I would much prefer a guy who offers some blocking ability, but can go over the middle and be a big possession type receiver. Our offense is not missing big play ability. We got that in spades (especially if Bryant rerurns). We need clock controllers and chain movers IMO. But I appreciate you may disagree with that.

  • Tom Lazaroff

    Let’s see. Amendola 8th year in league, so good they are asking him to take a pay cut. A UDFA who bounced around for 5 years with 3 teams before landing with the Pats. Hardly a world beater. Malcolm Mitchell – Rookie, 4th round draft pick, 32 receptions on the season. Chris Hogan another UDFA with 4 teams prior to the Pats.
    Anyone here making Pro Bowls? No. Why are they all not great when they don’t play with Brady? Yes, they have Gronk, but he was inured for the playoffs. The steelers could have signed any one of these guys at some point, but didn’t. They are all much better because they play with Brady. He reads them open and throws them open.

    I love Ben, but let’s be honest, he’s not disciplined as a thrower, and not great at making reads.

  • Wil Masisak

    You already have a fine #2 in Jesse. What’s missing is the seam threatening big man. We were SORELY missing big play threat last year, and it clogged things up for AB and run game.

  • Marcel Chris Chauvet

    Last year our 64 passing plays of 20+ yards ranked 4th in the league. We have PLENTY of big play ability. And Jesse is a mediocre number 2.

  • Marcel Chris Chauvet

    We ranked 4th in the league with 64 pass plays of 20+ yards last year. I would expect that number to go up if Bryant comes back. That’s a lot of big play potential

  • Steve Johnson

    The foundation of the Steelers was set in the 70’s. The Franchise will be just fine.

  • Ryan Alderman

    I don’t disagree completely, but I guess it depends on how you define just fine. I remember lots of years they were a pretty loaded team missing one key ingredient that just kept them from being able to go all the way. Maybe they’ll get lucky and get one and make a seamless transition. Or maybe they’ll wait 25 years and go about that time between championships like last time. Guess we’ll see…