Top Edge-Rushers Rivers, McKinley Headline Steelers Tuesday Pre-Draft Visitors

The Pittsburgh Steelers are now busy hosting pre-draft visitors and on Tuesday four more players are in town to talk to the team and that list of players includes two edge-rushers and two defensive backs.

According to Bob Labriola of steelers.com,  Michigan cornerback Jourdan Lewis, Youngstown State edge-rusher Derek Rivers, Michigan State safety Montae Nicholson and UCLA edge-rusher Takkarist McKinley are all in Pittsburgh visiting with the team.

Lewis, who was charged with misdemeanor domestic violence several weeks ago, measured in at the scouting combine at 5102, 188-pounds. He ran the 40-yard-dash in 4.54 seconds. He had 6 interceptions and 39 total pass breakups in the 48 games he played at Michigan.

McKinley, who recently underwent shoulder surgery, had 14.5 sacks in the two years he played at UCLA. He measured in at the combine at 6020, 250-pounds and ran the 40-yard-dash in 4.59 seconds.

Rivers, a small school prospect, had 37.5 sacks in the 49 career games that he played in at Youngstown State. He measured in at the combine at 6035, 248-pounds and ran the 40-yard-dash in 4.61 seconds.

As for Nicholson, who measured in at the combine at 6023, 212-pounds, he ran the 40-yard-dash in 4.42 seconds. He registered 4 interceptions and 4 pass breakups over the course of the last two seasons. He is considered a local prospect and thus shouldn’t count against the team’s 30 allotted outside visitors,

2017 NFL Draft Player Profiles: Youngstown State OLB Derek Rivers

2017 NFL Draft Player Profiles: Michigan CB Jourdan Lewis

2017 NFL Draft Player Profiles: UCLA EDGE Takkarist McKinley

  • Steelers12

    Rivers is my favorite realistic pass rusher and right behind is joe mathis. I have been high on Lewis for some time as well

  • Donte Williams

    rivers is my edge as well i like Willis too

  • Sam Clonch

    Just curious what round River’s value is in. I’d also really like him.

  • Guest12

    I hope we are only talking to Takk to get other teams ahead of us, interested in him. I do not think he would be a good round 1 pick, another JJ in the making.

  • disqus_WrRvUyG2DA

    For some reason I think the steelers will select Takkarist McKinley.

  • Rotten Sircus

    Derek Rivers is a sleeper pick. We can steal him in round 3. His highlights on youtube ain’t no joke !!!

  • harding36

    Exactly. Any chance we could get him in the 2nd? I guess you never know — when we picked Davis in the 2nd last year, I thought no way we’d get Hargraves, yet he was somehow still available in the 3rd.

  • harding36

    Oh, man. I don’t think it’s very likely that he makes it to the 3rd. I’m wondering if we can get him in the 2nd.

  • srdan

    “sleeper pick” are only words that exist in fantasy football. For NFL GMs and scouts they better not say that in a meeting. These guys get paid to find people, not sleep on them.

  • AndyR34

    Curious…the man from Michigan St. is local, but Rivers isn’t. Dave – do you have those crossed?

  • Sam Clonch

    If they took him in the 1st I’d always wonder if they could have got him later. I don’t think that would bug me anywhere near as much as it would if we passed and someone else scooped him up before we had another chance!

  • LucasY59

    that was what I was thinking

  • LucasY59

    they might use the term, but it would have a different meaning, he might be player that slips because he is not from a big time college, but after his Senior bowl and Combine performance every GM in the league should at least know his name, and if they do some research will also be impressed with his tape/productions, so I do think he could make it to the Steelers 2nd pick, but the only way he makes it to the 3rd rd would be if most of the have already taken a different OLB, and even then he wont make it to the 94th pick

  • WreckIess

    It’s good to see that the interest in Rivers is for real. He’s one of my favorite choices for pick 30.

  • WreckIess

    Nicholson is local because he’s from Monroeville, PA.

  • LucasY59

    Maybe with the 2nd pick, IMO both of these OLBs are being brought in, so that if they fall to #62 the Steelers will be ready to take them (both could be secondary options for the 1st pick, but I think they would be reaching/settling for what is left over if they take them at #30)

  • Applebite

    As usual…as anxious as we fans can be, the core thing to remember in the off season is ‘Respect the Process’.

  • Ace

    Please no Takk! Rivers is cool, I’d be on board with him in the first. And Lewis could be someone that slips way down to round 4. I’d be fine with him there, personal matters aside. I heard something about Takk hiring an agent that reps some other steeler players too. Theres a connection building…UGH. Please no Takk.

  • CP72

    Why don’t you like Takk? Legit question. Haven’t made my mind up on him.

  • CP72

    Had Montae and Derek in my last mock…breaks arm patting back!!

  • rayster

    Please let’s not take any girlfriend beaters, bar-brawlers, substance abusers, gang-bangers or the like.
    I’m sick and tired of the off-the-field (and on-the-field!) NFL criminal activity.

  • Jollyrob68

    He’s nothing like JJ. He wins with power and is relentless. He plays with his hair on fire and they need more of those players.

  • PaeperCup

    Welcome to Depot Rotten, I take it you are newish around these parts. The only Edge that has been talked about more unanimously agreed as an excellent pick would be Hasson Reddick. Funny thing is both Reddick and Rivers were hyped up around these parts weeks even months ago, and only now do you see both players shoot up the draft boards.

  • PaeperCup

    Lewis could be the answer at slot, and with the “off field” stuff maybe he could drop another round to the 3rd.

    He’s plead not guilty to the charge, and it does have hints of jealous GF type situation. We’ll see, but maybe he’ll say something during his visit that will convince the coaches of his innocence. (although more importantly he needs to convince the judge)

  • PaeperCup

    I agree. Rivers is shooting up the boards, but he’s been long targeted in 3rd or later, I think he climbs up to the second, because he is that good. But with the deep class at the position and many many top prospects coming from bigger schools, Rivers will fall into someones lap after the first.

    I’m really starting to think they are going QB with their first pick…especially if Mahomes is available.

  • Jeff Papiernik

    Give me Rivers in round 2 and Lewis in round 3 and I’d be thrilled.

  • LucasY59

    I like this group of 4 a lot more than yesterdays

    interviewing Lewis is good so they can get a better idea of what is going on with his assault charge, I think he is a good prospect at a position of need (slot CB) so as long as they are ok with his explanation of what happened and trust there wont be legal issues/league suspension he should be worth drafting, especially since he might drop to the Steelers 3rd pick because of it

    McKinley is an interesting visit as well, get a look at his shoulder and let there medical team decide if it affects if they draft him or not, he could fall to their 2nd pick because of it, and that would be decent value for him IMO (he would be a candidate for the 1st pick, if he were healthy, and might still be)

    Rivers is a guy I want them to be intested in, and bringing him in means they have enough interest to take a small school player (FCS) I think he could be a candidate for the 1st pick (and I like him better than some of the other OLBs they are likely targeting, but also think he could be available at #62 because of his small school background, as well as the depth of 2nd tier OLB talent)

    Nicholson is a bit intriguing, I like that he has some size/speed, dont know how he is a local visit, but if it doesnt count towards the 30 they get its even better

  • Biggie

    McKinley is possibly one of the biggest boom/bust guys in late 1st. I can’t get a handle on him. I like some of what I see but then get turned off just a quickly. Rivers is a 2nd/3rd round talent guy to me who will likely go early 2nd. I like him but rather not reach in Rd 1 just because he’s reports have him moving up board some, maybe slide back a few picks if someone is willing trade partner and pick up an extra pick we can use to double hit edge rusher later in draft. Lewis is a straight slot corner, Steelers mold type who supports the run. Domestic Violence misdemeanor is a little concerning as he is said to have aggressive attitude. I’m sure FO will do it’s due diligence. Nicholson is interesting, fast, nice size but doesn’t seem to put forth the effort he should.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Mirrors how I feel.

  • george

    Yes but with his injury he may not be available until August which effectively screws up his 1st year in this defense.

  • Ace

    Shoulder injury will affect his year one impact and PS need a guy to come in and produce now. Combine numbers weren’t what I thought they would be athletically, and that’s how he won in college. All speed not much power. Doesn’t play like a well refined and polished pass rusher. Had problems understanding the drills at the combine if I’m not mistaken. To put it lightly, don’t think hes a very cerebral guy. Now, I think he looks decent in space and has a pretty dang good motor. Effort is certainly there. I just don’t see him as round 1 and he will not last until round 2. Just my opinion. I don’t want the PS hanging there hat on him as their big draft get.

  • JT

    As much as we like Rivers and Obi, it’s gonna be hard to buck that Power 5 in round 1 trend.

  • Steel Realist PAul

    He sounds a lot more like Dupree! Raw and athletic.
    Not sure I like him, but that’s what I’ve heard anyway.

  • Steel Realist PAul

    Takay be gone before 30. 2nd round for Pit seems out.. ya know, from what media folk are predicting.

  • Steel Realist PAul

    But that was pre-combine right, the 3rd round mock

  • LucasY59

    with his shoulder and him not being healthy till the start of camp at the earliest and more realistically not 100% before the start of the season I wouldnt pick him any earlier than #62

  • Steel Realist PAul

    Agreed

  • Steelers12

    i would say 2nd round

  • Steelers12

    i don’t really know a lot about Willis, what do you like about him

  • PaeperCup

    there abouts. He didn’t blow the combine out of the water though. I think as we get closer to draft, people are just digging deeper into tape, and finally getting around to the small school guys like Rivers.

  • Steel Realist PAul

    I’ve been able to get him in the second on Fanspeak a bunch of times, but it only takes one team to like him. If they got him in the second, feels well-played.

  • Jon Hartman

    baltimore just traded jernigan to philly. woooooo!!! good for big ben!

  • PaeperCup

    same, teams are so unpredictable though, and fanspeak although a helpful tool is far from accurate. We should all participate in a mock here…

  • Guest12

    I guess it depends who is on the board

  • Voice O’ Reason

    He’s a small school prospect, not a sleeper. As a few indicated below, it’s also highly doubtful he makes it to the 3rd, let alone late 3rd. I think he’s mid 2nd round all day.

  • Voice O’ Reason

    I’ve been getting a similar feeling about Charles Harris.

  • Sam Clonch

    Wow. All they did was move up 25 spots, in the THIRD ROUND. If they’d have let him play out his deal, they probably would have gotten a pretty nice comp pick for him.

    Ozzie has me scratching my head this offseason.

  • Spencer Krick

    I think Takk’s ability to play the run and drop in coverage will keep him on the field long enough to develop as a pass rusher. (in theory)

    I sure like Rivers a whole lot more.

  • WreckIess

    You get a guaranteed 10th pick in the 3rd round this year instead of maybe getting a decent comp pick next year. It’s a smart move.

  • Guest12

    What I don’t like about him is his performance against quality players. Last season, the teams they played that fielded the best tackles he went against were, USC and Stanford, those 2 games were his worst performances of the season. His best performance of the season came against Utah 3 sacks and 2 FF, which is good, but, Utah’s best tackle is the LT, a guy that is looked at as one of the best tackles in this draft, and he didn’t line up over him too often and when he did he produced next to nothing, but when he lined up over the RT, that’s when he racked up the stats. My point is over the last 2 seasons, when he went against NFL ready tackles, he didn’t produce very well, when he lined up against the weaker lineman, that’s when he put up good #’s, that’s where the JJ comparisons come into play. Go watch the game film for the UCLA/Utah game, he gets man handled by the LT every single time he lined up on his side.

  • Steel Realist PAul

    That would be fun. Maybe thru a moderator to make sure the pick gets in. Give Dave pick 30..

  • Sam Clonch

    They already HAD a 3rd round pick. Sorry, moving up a few dozen, in the same round, isn’t worth a proven starter. Especially when you can get an entirely additional pick, AND his services on the cheap for another year.

    Now they’re looking to fill yet another starting slot.

  • steelersfan

    Nice. Was getting worried we hadn’t heard anything about Rivers.

  • PaeperCup

    Wonder if Matt, Alex, Daves, etc are interested in writing up an article for it.

  • WreckIess

    They like the guys they have and they knew they probably weren’t going to be able to keep Jernigan. So they got something for him now instead of maybe getting something for him in 2019.

    Who cares about the round? They moved up from the comp pick to the top of the 3rd. You’re going from borderline 4th round talent to some solid 3rd round talent or even some falling 2nd round talent.

  • Sam Clonch

    It’s a proven starter vs a gamble, with no return. Which is totally against their normal way of business. They’ve ALWAYS let FA walk and take the comp pick. It’s so out of character I don’t even know what to make of it yet.

  • Luke Edgerley

    rivers , yes please we – he looks so violent on tape I know level of comp is an issue especially for the black and gold in the 1st round but the kid looks worth to my untrained eyes
    lewis or rasul douglas in the 2nd
    perine & hodges in the 3rd
    elijah lee in the 4th
    josh reynolds in the 5th
    steven taylor in the 6th
    alonzo moore in the 7th
    sign me up – not a mock thread I know but couldn’t help myself

  • Matt Manzo

    Takk has some things to like, but there’s too many question marks for me.
    It got me thinkin that he could be the pass rusher that falls.
    If we drafted Rivers in the 1st and Takk was there in the 2nd, would anyone go for it? We could still go CB, S, RB in 3 and 4?

    I’m not saying I’d do it, just came up as a possibility.

  • Steel City Slim

    CBS Sports/NFL Draft Scout has him with a 2nd round grade on their website for what it’s worth.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Yay on Rivers!
    Boo on McKinley…
    Yay on Nicholson!
    Boo on Lewis…

    But speaking of Jourdan Lewis…. I know the circumstances of his trouble was quite different than Joe Mixon, but I still hope we are willing to at least do our diligence on Mixon, even if we technically don’t bring him in for a visit. Rumors say that Robert Kraft has ordered Mixon dropped from the Patriot draft board. It will be interesting to me to see just which RB’s we target and how many we ultimately choose to bring in for the pre-draft once over.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Not my ideal scenario, but I’d certainly consider it. Especially if we followed it up by locking down a few Secondary guys and our backup RB.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Don’t forget Reddick too. I think there are just enough players this year that should lead us to having a very good chance to see the trend appropriately bucked.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Mayock tore him up for not knowing how to do the drills already. It was actually pretty funny.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Funny that you say that, for no great reason, I have a similar feeling. Nothing concrete, just an itching somewhere. Like I keep hearing or seeing his name in the clouds. Again, not based on analysis or projection, just a weird back of the brain pick.

  • Darth Blount 47

    I already had the same idea! Assign us all teams. It would be a hoot!

  • Darth Blount 47

    Everything, lol. If you like Rivers, you’ll like Willis. Trust me.

  • Kevin Reich

    He is not a starter and does not fit their D. He is a 4-3 guy. Living in Baltimore that is the talk.

  • Kevin Reich

    Takk looks more like a 4-3 DE

  • Dan

    JJ was a guy who played in the 3-4 and was regarded as “polished” “high floor, low ceiling”, etc. Takk is ultra raw and super athletic, the polar opposite. I’m not a fan of his in rd. 1, but I’d be okay with him in rd.2.

  • Steelers12

    Good i want pass rushers and cover corners

  • RickM

    I think maybe we’re being unrealistic about where Takk will be taken. There are 5 analysts at NFL Draft Central. Three have him going at 15 or higher and one has him going at 18. Unfortunately, I don’t think he could ever fall to 62. It’s an interesting question though.

  • MC

    Takk failing in the drills really makes me question if he could pick up the steelers defense well enough to be an elite defender. Would much rather Rivers.

  • MC

    Don’t like Takk especially at 30. His pass rush seems to be won on athleticism and timing along. I never saw him win with technique so he will get exposed in the nfl if he isn’t coachable, plus the drill fails makes me think he isn’t that coachable. Rivers would be awesome in the second if he lasts. Frustrating that this team never trades down in the first.

  • RickM

    I agree, you always take the proven commodity. That said, he did slump in the second half of 2016 as Pierce claimed more snaps.

  • JT

    I’ll be interested to see if we really have no shot at Reddick like many think.

  • Andrew

    I feel like Rivers can go anywhere from mid 2nd round to mid 3rd round. I think there is a 50/50 chance he is there for us in the second. I think its worth not picking an OLB round one and grabbing one in the second.

  • steelersfan

    If the Steelers are somehow able to grab a CB like Kevin King in round 1 and Rivers in round 2 they have my permission to do whatever they want for the remainder of the draft..even if that means (gulp) selecting a QB in round 3

  • Matt Manzo

    Yeah, he’s been top 20 since the beginning. I’m just thinking of that one weird crazy fall in the draft. Like Billings.

  • pkeats86

    I feel like if we don’t get him he goes early 2nd. Kevin Greene was at his pro day and he is with the Jets. That’s high round 2. If he somehow got to mid round 2 I would want to go get him. Use the compensatory pick and make it happen.

  • Andrew

    While that is a little concerning, the Jets are a popular team to be targeting a QB in the second. Even if they do take him, there should still be a good OLB in the second. While its our biggest need, I feel like we can still get a good player in the second.