Steelers Tape Study: Joshua Dobbs’ 2016 3rd Down Incompletions – Part 1

In a previous post, I wrote about how poorly new Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Joshua Dobbs performed on third down pass attempts during his college career at Tennessee and in it I indicated that I planned on digging deeper into his 2016 tape in order to see what really happened. I am now ready to move forward with that study and will do so by breaking down all off Dobbs’ 2016 incompleted third down throws from his 2016 season and will do so two games at a time.

We’ll start this series off by looking out Dobbs’ incompleted third down throws from his 2016 games against Appalachian State and Virginia Tech. You can see each of those plays in the two videos below and underneath them are the charted play-by-play accounts complete with air yards from the line of scrimmage, snap to throw times as well as a brief description of what happened.

I invite all of you to comment on my assessments of each play in addition to any other analysis you believe is necessary. This series should take roughly a week to finish and at that point I will post a recap of the data. I hope you enjoy it.

QRTTIMEDWNDISTLOSPLAY BY PLAYAIR YDSSTTREASON
1st6:453rdGAPP 5J.Dobbs pass incomplete to P.Williams142.70Good throw/Drop/PBU
1st3:453rd6TENN 35J.Dobbs pass incomplete to A.Kamara41.98Poor decision almost picked
1st0:003rd18TENN 32J.Dobbs pass incomplete to J.Hurd22.55Poor throw high and behind
2nd1:243rd3APP 28J.Dobbs pass intercepted by M.Williams254.70Scrambling. Poor decision off back foot
3rd3:053rd7APP 21J.Dobbs pass incomplete to A.Kamara-13.00RB screen throw behind & dropped
4th7:463rd18TENN 16J.Dobbs pass incomplete to E.Wolf68.57Scrambling. Poor decision off back foot
QRTTIMEDWNDISTLOSPLAY BY PLAYAIR YDS STTREASON
1st3:473rd2TENN 33J.Dobbs pass incomplete to J.Malone92.54Throw wide to outside
2nd5:413rd15VT 16J.Dobbs pass incomplete to T.Byrd176.87Scrambling. Throw on run high in end zone
3rd10:113rd10VT 29J.Dobbs pass incomplete to J.Jennings142.95Poor decision almost picked
3rd2:253rd13TENN 37J.Dobbs pass incomplete to J.Smith33.39Dropped. Pressure in face
4th14:503rd650J.Dobbs pass intercepted by M.Reynolds93.28Low snap. Open stance and poor decision

  • Scapp

    Looks like he wasn’t getting much help from his receivers. Many drops and not coming out of their breaks well killed them.

  • 20Stoney

    Agree that a lot of it is on his receivers. Lots of drops and bad routes. The interceptions are on him however.

  • treeher

    Well, I can’t wait for the review of positive plays because he looks pretty bad on these. Aside from the drops, he demonstrates poor technique and poor decision making. Seems like on most of the plays where he forced the ball, there was at least one open receiver elsewhere.

  • Lil Smitty

    Many of these incompletes loo really bad, but not just Dobbs the entire offense.
    He seemed rattled because the O line was getting beat constantly. The receivers didn’t offer him any help either.
    One thing, beside not allowing his feet to get set before throwing, that bothered me was his appearance of staring down receivers. Hopefully, he was required to throw to a receiver. If he had the option to go off a receiver, than he needs to see the field better to have any success, even as a back up

  • Anthony Barnes

    To me it looks like he made bad decisions while under pressure. I don’t think he will face much pressure with the Steelers O line protecting him. But I think his bad decision making while under pressure is something the Steelers can fix.

  • Pete Stankowski

    I hope this writer highlights the deficiencies of Watt and the other higher profile rookies taken by the Steelers.

    It seems to me the kid is being treated unfairly. He wasn’t the #1 pick.

  • Matt Correll

    This is going to be a very interesting exercise– thanks for doing it Dave.

    Just a couple comments on each game:

    1. The second throw against App St. looked like a great read by the CB. You see him drop off his coverage and jump the ball. So that one seems more like a great defensive play.

    2. The Virginia Tech game second throw to the back of the end zone– That seemed like a play to either throw the ball away, or take a shot putting the ball where only the WR has a chance at it. If he makes a great catch they have a chance at a TD, if its too high, they can still get the FG. So rather than viewing that a bad throw, I would say it was a safe throw.

  • D.j. Reynolds

    I know a lot of people didn’t want a QB, but it sure seems to me that we are really focusing on his negatives. I mean look at all the articles about the positives of Watt, JJSS, and Sutton. Where are the negative articles on them with breakdowns similar to this and others about Dobbs?

    I believe we need a number of similar breakdowns of all of Dobbs’ completions over 15 yards (or something like that) to offset all this negativity. Otherwise, I believe this is getting rather slanted especially when compared to the way that the other draft picks are being puffed up in every article.

    I’m not saying the guy will be good, but he’s a Steeler now and by all accounts also a good guy. Let’s give him a shot and root for him!

  • blackandgoldBullion

    I looked at the score occasionally. 10 or 14 point lead and he forced the ball sometimes resulting in stupid, idiotic decisions that were INTs. No way you should ever do that. The good news is that can easily be corrected.

    You sit Dobbs down and tell him the following:

    “Josh, you’re a brilliant guy, but what were you thinking? In that situation, you must be conservative, throw the ball where only your WR has a chance or throw it away or take a sack. Simple as that. You must protect a 2 score lead. The NFL will punish you. Also if you ever do that again I will personally kick you in the butt right on national TV! On the other hand if we’re behind 2 scores you can go ahead a try to make things happen. Understand? Good. Problem solved. ”

    Obviously the drops were not his fault.

  • SteelersDepot

    Treated unfairly because we are trying to find out what led to a very low 3rd down completion percentage during his college career? Maybe we’ll find a lot of drops and such. You are sounding like an apologist, no?

  • SteelersDepot

    Do you not want to know what led to such a low 3rd down completion percentage? We have all offseason to figure out good and bad of ALL draft picks. Dobbs 3rd down stats is a very EASY place to start and with good reason so any narratives can be put to bed.

  • D.j. Reynolds

    I feel similar to Pete! There is pretty clear bias against Dobbs at this point because most of us didn’t want a QB.

    I really thank you guys for all of your hard work and for your great breakdowns, etc. However, if you can’t see the bias in the articles about Dobbs (as compared to other picks, except maybe Holba), then it is you that isn’t really paying attention, not Pete.

  • SteelersDepot

    Bias against Dobbs because we are trying to find out the REAL reason for a very low 3rd down completion percentage? lol

  • Bob

    Looks like Landry Jones’s job is secure!

  • blackandgoldBullion

    Relax. There are tons of highlights out there that show Dobbs great gifts, the things he does well. Dave is providing info with video proof trying to isolate a potential area of weakness, 3rd downs. You might still conclude that his receivers let him down, or the OL was lacking.

    Dave, this is a lot of work and thanks for the videos.

  • D.j. Reynolds

    Sure I do and it is a great breakdown. However, I would also (and probably first) like to get in-depth on his positives and positive plays similar to what the site has done for the other draft picks!

  • SteelersDepot

    So all positives should be posted before all negatives? Got it.

  • D.j. Reynolds

    I also thank you for your work, Dave! I realize what you had to do to put this together. I honestly love the breakdowns. I just wish we had first focused on his positives to the same extent as the other draft choices.

  • eric

    ‘as we continue to only focus on the negatives of Joshua Dobbs we invite you to read the positives of our other draft picks’

  • D.j. Reynolds

    That is not what I said. However, I do believe all draft picks should be analyzed similarly and that is not what is happening. Media/writers sway the masses, and if you choose one pick to go negative on before highlighting the positives (while doing the opposite for the others), what type of sway do you believe that may have?

    I don’t want to argue with you, and I have said my piece. I really do love the breakdowns, including this one.

  • SteelersDepot

    Confession: I secretly hated the Dobbs pick & am now trying to make it look as silly as possible via posts & thus get the Steelers sold and moved to Vegas.

  • Spencer Krick

    I’m pretty sure that’s what happened after the Raiders took Connor Cook.

  • SteelersDepot

    Bingo!

  • D.j. Reynolds

    Clearly sarcasm and funny. However, you truly did hate the Dobbs pick, correct? It certainly comes across that way.

  • SteelersDepot

    you should REALLY listen to the podcast. If you did, you would know I was fine with him being the pick after I accepted the fact months ago the team would be drafting a QB.

  • Pete Stankowski

    I’ll patiently wait for Steelers Film Study featuring Watt, specifically highlighting the deficiencies in his game.

    He was the #1 pick, the brother of JJ, very little experience at his position and he has a history of injuries.

    I’m sure you guys do a good job, so I look forward to how you decide to breakdown his game.

    Just be fair.

  • Pete Stankowski

    LOL!

  • D.j. Reynolds

    I read 90+% of all the articles on this site and have for a long time (though I really only started posting recently). Unfortunately, I can’t listen to the podcasts most of the time — work constraints (like being on the phone or in a setting where I can’t).

    BTW, I accepted being a short, chubby guy with no athletic skills a long time ago. But, that doesn’t mean I like it!

  • Pete Stankowski

    How about you start with the #1 pick and not with the teams 4th round pick who wasn’t drafted to be a starter.

    #BEFAIR

  • SteelersDepot

    This might be the silliest comment I read all day. I did not know this was the blahger protocol for draft picks. Oh well, too late. You Dobbs’ family members might not want to visit the site until this study is completed.

  • Pete Stankowski

    “You Dobb’s family members”. I’m not related to the kid.

    You’re an obvious CLOWN.

  • falconsaftey43

    APP
    1. agreed
    2. agreed (didn’t read trap coverage, should throw to #1 vertical
    3. there was free pressure up the middle
    4. agreed, probably need to throw it away to preserve FG chance
    5. don’t think it was a poor throw on the screen, threw to side of RB opposite of the defender
    6. don’t know if I’d say poor decision, but was poor throw off back foot. Looks like he had options early, but didn’t see them.

    VT
    1. agreed, but pressure in face, was hit after throw, ball came out wobbly
    2. agreed, right decision (assuming nothing else there), safe chance in back of endzone
    3. agreed, no idea what he’s thinking here
    4. agreed
    5. agreed

  • falconsaftey43

    Um, he can’t do everything at once, he’s breaking down Dobbs right now. Did he ever say he wasn’t going to break down other guys? Plus there is just in general more to break down with QBs.

  • D.j. Reynolds

    I have seen the predecessor article to this one on low 3rd down %, this article, and the interception compilation article on Dobbs the past few days. I am now truly wondering why in the world Tennessee would let this guy see the field much less why the Steelers would draft him???

    I can’t wait to hear what he does well that may help me understand this pick. Surely it is not just his smarts and personality?!

  • Steve Volk

    I am confused by the approach here. Are you also going to chart his third down successes? I appreciate all the work but I do think focusing on interceptions and incompletions is ineffective. To understand a player’s potential, we do need to see strengths and weaknesses, successes and failures, right? I see no reference here to ever charting his third down completions and I just… I cannot imagine a scout only looking at the times a guy failed.

  • Steve Volk

    I would find a video compilation of all his third down plays, two games at a time, a far more thorough picture of his abilities.

  • falconsaftey43

    His initial post had all 3rd down throws broken down, just without video. This is a lot of work. And it’s possible to come away impressed by a players “losses” For instance, you can look at his 3rd down incompletions and notice there was frequently a lot of pressure in his face, WR not open, and drops. Those things make you feel better that with a better supporting cast, he’d perform better. It also shows areas he needs to work on. Not sure why everyone is viewing this as picking on Dobbs or unfair in some way. It’s strict objective analysis of what happened on a certain type of play.

  • RickM

    Kudos for this. It has already given me a far better understanding of some tendencies and weaknesses he needs to overcome. I find that informative not threatening, and I hope he’s able to do it.

  • grw1960

    Thank you all on Steeler depot for putting in time to study tape , players and constantly give us info.
    Most of us hard core Steeler fans like the opinions and info you provide.

    Because there are few sites that provide us with such up to date info.

  • falconsaftey43

    Dave, thanks for the great work. Most of us can appreciate this for what it is, detailed analysis. Sorry you have to put up with crazy back lash for some reason. Keep up the great work!

  • D.j. Reynolds

    Very true, and I’m proud to be such a hardcore fan of the Steelers and this site!

  • Steve Volk

    I am not accusing Dave of laziness or being a Mr. negative. I am just saying that I do not feel I am learning anywhere near as much as I might from this, if it included his positive plays, too. I also understand that this is a lot of work, but last I checked—Dave, tell me if I’m wrong—no one is holding a gun to his head. He chose to own and operate this site and post on it. He’s a big boy, and he can take the heat, and I will of course fast forward through the rant he will undoubtedly go on during his podcast in which he defends this decision and makes fun of all the fans who thought—and will continue to think—this is a really strange way to break down a player.

  • D.j. Reynolds

    Steve, I couldn’t agree more with your post. I also don’t care if I get made fun of for my posts (especially on a podcast I rarely get to listen to anyway).

    Despite all my posts wondering why we are looking at all the negatives, I certainly see them here and understand the article. My only issue is I had to go to another site to try and figure out what the Steelers saw to make them draft this guy in the first place. That is unusual for me as this is my favorite site on the whole interweb!

  • Xclewsive

    Dobbs seems to misread coverages, stare down his primary WR and doesn’t climb the pocket instead escapes towards the numbers. Things outside his controls are drops, OL breakdowns and WR running wrong routes. It’s honestly a mixed bag of results not all predicated on Dobbs inability on 3rd down.

  • Spencer Krick

    Don’t underestimate intangibles, they are a big part of being a successful QB. Look at Jay Cutler 😛

  • D.j. Reynolds

    Dave, despite my complaints in this thread, I look forward to seeing the remaining parts to this series. I have now seen enough to make me think I hate the Dobbs pick at this point.

    I’m curious: Is it your opinion that Dobbs has more errant throws, bad decisions, and stares down his receivers more often than he does not? More often than the other college QB’s coming out?

  • Dorian James

    I think some time with Ben and Randy will help him. And there’s no rush with this guy, so he might be just fine

  • RickM

    Respectfully, I think it’s easier to do an in-depth analysis of a drafted QB than any other position. It’s just the nature of the position (they control so much of the O game). Personally, I would love to see this type of analysis for any QB we draft as Ben prepares for retirement. It’s such a critical decision for the team. Digging deeper on the strengths and weaknesses of the QB’s they draft to hopefully replace him is great.

  • SteelersDepot

    I can’t draw conclusions from just two games based on one down and I suggest you not do the same. It is a tip. There’s a lot to look at it when it comes to QBs and 3rd down incompetitions is just one of those things.

  • treeher

    Dave, you have the patience of a saint. It’s obvious that your posts are intended only for readers whose IQs are over 50.

  • D.j. Reynolds

    What is the Steelers’ scouting department mantra? “Tell me what a player can do, not what he can’t do.” Have you also read that here recently? I don’t necessarily agree (as I also want to know negatives to see if they’re fixable) but it seems to me something should be built up before being taken apart.

    I completely agree on wanting in-depth analysis on both positives and negatives. However, from reading all the articles posted about Hobbs since the draft, his smarts and attitude really seem to be the only positives I’ve heard about. Maybe I’m impatient, but I like to see in-depth what a player can do and what he can’t do. i still don’t have good feel for what he can do.

  • treeher

    DJ, Dave was very specific in detailing what he is doing and why. Take it for what it is. Hey, if he started with all the positives, imagine the backlash from those who think he’s overlooking the bad plays. Relax, man.

  • D.j. Reynolds

    Thanks, Dave. I’m always one to form my own opinion after hearing both the good and the bad anyway. However, I respect your opinion, and had assumed you had looked at more than what has been posted thus far (which at least for now has me worried about this pick and whether Mettenberger should have been released).

  • D.j. Reynolds

    Fair enough — given all the ire for the pick of any QB (leading up to and following the draft), I guess i understand why he is focusing on the negative first. I suspect there would be a lot more backlash for that.

  • SteelersDepot

    Wow, you jump to conclusions and switch gears mighty quick.

  • D.j. Reynolds

    I haven’t made any final conclusions of my own, rather I’m following where you’re leading for now.

    I’m not a Dobbs supporter — I began as a blank canvas with the hope that the picture turns out good. My complaints above have never been about the quality of your work or even what it shows, in fact, it is quite the contrary — it is great work and surely shows some important negatives to which I am paying attention.

  • falconsaftey43

    You also have to consider the context of why the study is being done. Dobbs had poor 3rd down stats, so you look at those failures to see if he truly is poor there, or if there were a lot of mitigating circumstances.

    Same with the sack compilations. A guy like Bowser posted an impressive sack total (8.5 I think) but when you go an look at those “good” plays, you see that they weren’t that impressive. It’s about diving deeper into what the stat suggests, not about focusing on a guys good or bad attributes. If Dobbs had a tremendous deep ball completion % or something like that, I’m sure that’d be something Dave would look to break down.

  • talldad

    Sounds like everyone wants to make the young man a wide receiver already……

  • D.j. Reynolds

    I agree that Dobbs had poor 3rd down stats, and I want to know why. And, I will continue to read why as it is posted. I fully comprehend the article and the video clips.

    The thing I found odd was the way in which the information is being presented in a juxtaposed fashion from the other picks (i.e., Sutton’s interception compilations and Watt’s sack compilations vs. Dobbs’ interception compilation and poor 3rd down stats).

  • falconsaftey43

    I get that, I think it’s just a matter of those are the stats that jumped out about Dobbs. He had high INT numbers and poor 3rd down stats. Little harder to have a “negative” stat as a defender or WR (outside drops).

  • AndyR34

    Did you even read the linked article? If you did, you clearly have a reading comprehension problem, as it explains the basis for this article. It is not to highlight anyone’s deficiencies, but to answer why Dobbs had such a poor 3rd down completion rate (10% worse than the next lowest QB’s). I am sure that Dave or Alex would break down someone else if they saw such a glaring issue.

  • RickM

    The crux of the issue is that you want your hopes (and the player) to be built up first – which is fine. For me, I prefer them to tell me what stands out to them, good or bad. Forget what team has drafted him.

    In this case, they’ve highlighted the very low 3rd down conversion rate compared to other QB’s drafted. The only thing I ask for is balance come the end.

  • D.j. Reynolds

    Fair enough. And, if this is what stands out the most, then that would make sense as to why it is being written in this order. However, this type of hard-to-find stat wouldn’t generally be what stands out initially unless it is what you are looking for.

    From your post, I can surmise you agree that there is no balance right now. I agree that balance at the end is the most important thing rather than right now. It just struck me as very odd that we are looking at everyone else’s highlights while focusing on Dobbs’ lowlights.

    This first struck me when I saw sack/interception compilations coming out for other picks and we got an interception compilation on Dobbs rather than a TD compilation.

  • steelburg

    It looks like its a combination of bad receiver play and bad foot work and decision making by Dobbs. Dobbs wasn’t getting much help from his receivers with so many drops and them not coming out of their breaks well. But Dobbs has to be better at throwing the ball away and using his feet when there is nothing there.

  • RickM

    Yes, at the end I don’t want the videos to be either all positive or all negative. That’s just a pre-set agenda. I’m confident the site will do both.

    This was a weak QB class and we’re talking about a guy taken at the end of the 4th round, so I’m not surprised by a ‘hole’ that may have jumped out. And the stats provided yesterday were pretty surprising. It won’t matter in the end what was concentrated on first by the site or fans; Dobbs will make it or not make it based on his own merits. Is there a responsibility to start with the strengths? Most fans prefer that I know. I’m in a small minority that hopes they’ll forget what team drafted him and tell us what they see. It better prepares me when they actually hit the field. And I think on balance the site does a pretty good job of that. Thanks for the chat. The last word is yours if needed.

  • D.j. Reynolds

    Thanks, Rick. Enjoyed the discussion.

  • Pete Stankowski

    Reading comprehension problem!? Hardly! You don’t know me and I won’t be spoken to that way.

    Fck you!

  • Michael James

    Negative highlights always look really bad. You could make a compilation of Tom Brady’s and Aaron Rodger’s worst plays from last season, show them to a person who hypothetically wouldn’t know those two and this person would come to the conclusion that both QBs are scrubs.

  • PaeperCup

    Watch his draft profile. That’s what that was for.

    Remember that it is a lot harder to compile film on a non skill player, since most the time they are not even in frame and not involved in the play.

  • Steve Volk

    We especially cannot draw conclusions from only looking at his failures on one down.

  • PaeperCup

    What kind of article do you even expect about Watt? A defensive player would take an immense amount of work to compile videos about his “negatives” when 1) defensive negatives are not statistically documented and 2) defensive players are not always involved in a play and are often out of frame from the film available.

  • SteelersDepot

    … and that’s why I wrote: “There’s a lot to look at it when it comes to QBs and 3rd down incompetitions is just one of those things.”

  • Xclewsive

    Why insult fans intelligence? They are entitled to their opinions and should be demeaned because of that. Dave does great work and that doesnt mean he’s above reproach.

  • Steve Volk

    I was just amplifying your wise and considered judgment.

  • MJ Irish

    Good analysis. However that screen pass was placed well to avoid the defender and give the back some space. Keep hammering. This isn’t about sentiment; inquiring minds wanna know!

  • treeher

    Well, the demeanment 🙂 was directed to the comment from the guy who called Dave a clown, so I think it was appropriate. Maybe you should scroll up and rebuke him instead of me.

  • D.j. Reynolds

    I was being a little facetious with this post. Though I admit that I do think these lowlights look pretty bad, and it is going to take a lot of really good highlights/articles to make me begin to think Dobbs has real potential. That is the point I was making on the board above about us being swayed by all the negatives-only thus far.

  • D.j. Reynolds

    . . . a breakdown of errors and missed assignments and missed tackles and failures in containment and showing the side (if there is one) from which he is less-effective and areas upon which he needs to improve. There are plenty of negatives that can be shown about all picks.

    However, my statement was meant to be less about Watt, JJSS, and Sutton and more about wanting to know the positives of Dobbs. I really was just confused because the analysis on this site seemed to start with Dobbs’ negatives instead of his positives in reverse order of the others.

    As long as we get the full picture eventually on ALL of them, I have come around and I guess I don’t really care.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    Dave –

    I find it both interesting and BAFFLING that some of our fellow posters think you are “picking” on Dobbs.

    If anything you are trying to make a case FOR him by discovering whether or not his weaknesses can be corrected, or if they’re more permanent, or if they are an issue of supporting cast weaknesses.

    People need to understand that part of being an effective evaluator is to look at the strengths and weaknesses of these prospects accurately and honestly. It has nothing to do with personal feelings or biases or picking on anyone. The tape will tell the story. But you have to be willing to watch the tape. All of it.

    I for one am very excited that you do these game tape series. Keep up the good work.

  • george

    I don’t know why everyone is getting their panties in a wad over this. In the first place you don’t have to read any/all the posts on this site. I personally pick the titles of the posts that most interest me. Second, Dave hasn’t done anything that Randy Fichtner hasn’t already done or will do when he starts working with Dobbs. Third, as far as those itching for the “Watt deficiency post,” they should remember that an OLB (picked #1 or not) won’t have the ball in his hand on every snap. QB is the most important position on the team. Rarely do teams lose a game because an OLB made a bad decision.

  • george

    Guess you are in violation olf the Fairness Doctrine. They may sic the FCC on you.

  • SteelersDepot

    Well, there was that play with Jarvis against the Cowboys last season. I won’t soon forget that one.

  • StolenUpVotes

    very interesting breakdown

  • Xclewsive

    Hmmm…Dave is Steelersdepot and I’m sure he got this.

  • Rob S.

    The biggest thing I take away is that O-line sucks. He barely had any time to make a good decision. Should have thrown some of those away, but Ben was the same way early in his career. Also sseemed like a lot of 3rd and more than 10s.

  • george

    True but I did say teams rarely not never lose games because of a bad decision an OLB made. So I guess JJ was special in that respect. 🙂

  • talldad

    The young man won many games in the hardest conf. In the. NCAA……

  • george

    On second thought how cool would it be if someone did a comparison of how many games have been lost due a bad decision made by an OLB compared to a QB! Maybe you could work on that after you finish the Watt Deficiency report everyone here is clamoring for.

  • Simon Cutts

    I like the work put in, but i am learning more about receivers that cannot catch or run routes, and linemen that cannot block from this film

  • Aj Gentile

    What would you like in the film study for Watt? Because it is easy too look at stats for a qb to see where he did poorly at. What stats should we look at for a OLB Pete?

  • Screz Belton

    in the Appalachian game I disagree with 4 plays… first poor decision was thrown inside away from the db should’ve been caught.. 2nd the high and behind was very catchable.. the intercepted pass was underthrown but wr was open..last the rb screen was thrown away from the defense also catchable

  • Screz Belton

    vs v-tech wide outside. wr stop on outbreak should’ve kept going wr fault.. 2nd pressure in face was a very catchable ball by wr