Le’Veon Bell On Twitter: ‘I’m Not Going Anywhere’

Yesterday, we guessed if a Le’Veon Bell tweet had anything to do with his Pittsburgh Steelers’ future. Today, Bell took a much more direct approach.

After Twitter user Steeier Nation pleaded Bell not to leave the team, the Steelers’ back replied.

For those who can’t see the tweet/blocked Bell in anger/been blocked by Bell in anger, it reads: “I’m not goin anywhere unless they get rid of me.”

By now, you’re all aware of the story/saga. Bell still hasn’t reported to the team, training in Miami while the Steelers have been in Latrobe. Jeremy Fowler of ESPN reported today Bell is unlikely to join the team before Week 3, the tune up game where the starters typically play a half. That means Bell may go through the entire preseason without taking a snap with the team.

But Bell has been mostly quiet about his present and future football plans. There may have been some subtle digs, the “I guess I gotta get better” line right after the tag deadline past and the unanswered texts of Ben Roethlisberger. But he’s mostly been doing his thing in South Beach, still communicating with the team, who have urged him to report.

The Steelers will have the option, and likely will exercise it, to tag Bell this upcoming offseason. While Bell has always expressed a desire to stay in Pittsburgh, his contract demands don’t agree with that ideology. He’ll show up to the team facility sometime in the next two weeks and then we’ll go from there.

Catch you next time on As the Bell Turns.

h/t Richard

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  • Joey

    oh good… i was worried… /sarcasm

  • Joeybaggadonuts

    Dude can tote the rock. It’s all about business but he is a bonehead of epic proportions…not a cancer as some have insinuated.

  • Douglas Andrews

    Can’t wait for Bell to get back. After the Cleveland game all will be forgotten about this contract situation. I honestly think he’s playing it right by sitting out.

  • Dan

    Let’s be honest, as soon as he breaks a 20-yard run in his classic patient style, all but the grumpiest of fans will forget all about this.

    For me, it boils down to the QB position and one James Conner. If Ben leaves, having Bell would be huge for the next young QB to rely on. If Ben stays a bit longer maybe Bell is a bit more expendable. We all love him but he’s asking for way too much money. That’s where Conner comes in. If he comes in and balls out this year, then we don’t need Bell as much. Bell will come in and play under the tag. We’ll do this dance again next year.

  • LucasY59

    can the team suspend/not play him week 1 (where he would lose a games paycheck?)

    he is obviously a player that can help the team, but as a team mate I would be pissed that he wasnt there putting in the work like everyone else and then shows up right before the season starts like its nbd (I know he is working out to stay in shape, but its not the same as camp…even James Harrison admits that)

    another reason I would think about sitting him out for that 1st game is he might not be ready (since he has missed all the time in OTAs because of the groin surgery and skipped camp) I think there is a legit reason to keep him out just from a preparedness standpoint (yes he knows the offense, but like we saw with Bryant, there is some rust that builds after missing some fairly significant time)

    one final thing, Conner struggled with some dropped passes and was either boom or bust on his runs, but I think he could handle the load for a game against the Clowns, especially if Ben, Brown and Bryant build a big lead early and let the rookie run downhill for most of the 2nd half to control the clock

  • LucasY59

    as for Bells tweet “not goin anywhere” is very accurate considering the Steelers dont mess around with holdouts and him not showing up really is getting him nowhere

  • LAWDAWG

    Sitting out for what?? He is guaranteed 4 million more than the next highest paid RB in the NFL, THIS YEAR! Pittsburgh can’t give him more money right now if they wanted to. He has no reason to be sitting out right now, except to draw attention to himself, which he would get tons of, by reporting and playing. This make no sense.

  • Eric Whyuwannaknow

    Bell isn’t holding out though.

  • steelersfan

    Remember the “April fools” joke about holding out. Nothing this guy says is legit

  • LucasY59

    he hasnt shown up so what do you call it???

  • Zarbor

    No sense whatsoever….outside of he really doesn’t want to be here. I never believe anything these guys say in the media.

    Now that I know that he’s all about the money, I will never get his jersey even if he gets in the HOF. I will appreciate whatever he does to help us win the SB but my view of LB is forever changed.

  • heath miller

    conner better learn how to catch out of the backfield… what did he have 3 drops tonight .. he tries to run before he catches the ball.. so maybe bell is right he is a #1 RB and #2 receiver.. conner may be able to come close as a RB but he has to go a long way on caching the ball …

  • Steelers12

    Hines held out

  • Steelers12

    Skipping training camp

  • Shane Mitchell

    ‘The Steelers will have the option, and likely will exercise it, to tag Bell this upcoming offseason.’

    I seriously doubt it

  • LucasY59

    so its “technically” not a holdout but everyone on the team HC, GM, even star players like Ben and AB have said publically that he should be with the team right now

  • LucasY59

    still gains him nothing

  • Eric Whyuwannaknow

    I would call it that he has not signed the tag that he was given…you know, the $12mil one. You would be right that Bell is holding out if the Steelers didn’t tag him and negotiations for a new deal broke down and both sides were taking a break before trying to hammer out a deal to get him back in the mix. Since that whole process came and went last month (July 15 or 17), he’s not holding out for more money since he was tagged. Both sides cannot negotiate a new deal per the rules of the CBA after the deadline that was set. He’s just not showing up for camp anytime soon and there’s nothing to be penalized over for him missing that time.

  • LucasY59

    still doesnt gain him anything more in than the 12 mil

  • Eric Whyuwannaknow

    Right, but he’s not holding out.

  • NinjaMountie

    1st game. I’m sure Conner was nervous and is bound to make mistakes because of said nervousness. Also, just because Conner didn’t do it doesn’t mean there aren’t other RBs around the league who do do it…and for much less.

  • NinjaMountie

    Here is some good conspiracy theory fodder.
    Could his, “…unless they get rid of me” be implying he knows something about a potential trade?
    I absolutely think NO, however, I’m surprised it hasn’t been mentioned yet.

  • steelpastor

    Run him hard! 350 carries and 100 catches this year.

    Then… tag him next year and increase it by 10 percent! Done!

  • Big White

    I have no problem with Bell not being there from a football perspective, but just the isolation from the team and the community is god awful for football karma. As part of the collective bargaining agreement, it’s my understanding that he’s allowed to miss camp physically. I still don’t understand why he can’t show up in sweats, work on the side and support his teammates in spirit. I’m sure the Steelers would accommodate that, maybe i’m wrong. The optics are poor at best.

  • melblount

    Hines repeatedly states his holdout was one of the worst decisions he ever made and advises current players against not reporting to camp.

    So your point is?

  • melblount

    Shoot me for posting, heck, even thinking this but…

    Think of how MANY injuries we’ve had early in camp this season. We see it EVERY year – NFL players who try to play the game have a higher injury risk when they are not in “football shape.”

    Bell as we know has a history of injuries. Further, it is highly unlikely Bell will be in “football shape” come Wk 1.

    From somewhere in there posters should be able extract a 1+1 or 2+2 scenario and add up to what I’m trying hard NOT to say out loud.

  • copanut

    Sitting out so he doesn’t take a risk getting hurt in a pointless game. He’ll be there in time for practice the week prior to the first real game, and that’s all the practice he needs. All of this fan-generated drama is utterly meaningless. The Steelers know it, Bell knows it, and the media knows it, even if many pretend otherwise.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    I don’t think there’s any way they get rid of him unless Ben retires. He’s a top-2 back in the league (if I’m being totally honest, I’d put Johnson over him), and they’re not gonna replace that. Maybe Belichick could find some way to navigate a beneficial deal out of it, but our front office isn’t that creative.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    I’m getting tired of repeating myself, but since the subject keeps coming up, I’ll just say that I would be less concerned if it didn’t seem like the players were concerned. I’m sure they’ll be fine, but the fact that Tomlin, Ben, AB, etc… have all tried to get him to come in is telling, in my opinion.

  • Steelers12

    He still finished his career with Steelers n got paid is my point

  • Steelers12

    He ain’t getting hurt before he gets a long term deal

  • Steelers12

    The same Ben n AB who has long term guranteed deals

  • LucasY59

    he turned down a long term deal

  • LucasY59

    by showing up to camp and signing the deals they were offered, the one Bell turned down wouldve made him the higgest paid RB by a wide margin but instead he wants more and sits out of camp when it gains him nothing

  • Steelers12

    Well if so he will have to face those ramifications. You can’t tell another man how to handle his business

  • Steelers12

    He didn’t deem it to be good enough

  • WreckIess

    He said he wouldn’t play under the tag. Sitting out a few weeks of TC isn’t refusing to play under the tag. It’s keeping himself away from unnecessary punishment.

  • William Weaver

    We are talking about practice man.. not a game, practice!!!

  • ND_Steel

    Just wish he’d have shown and stood on the sidelines…he doesn’t need reps, just be a teammate, that’s all. No one would have issue with this.

  • Kevin Artis

    Sad thing is I have is jersey and don’t want to wear it. I’ll encase it in a frame and hang it up with my other jerseys.

  • Kevin Artis

    No no. I haven’t gotten over Ben ‘s antics a few years ago down in GA. But I root for him for team success.

  • Delboka

    “steeiernation”
    What a dummy.

  • Jim Foles

    Conner and Dobbs played a lot better then JUJU and Sutton. They will get better..

  • Michael Mosgrove

    That date is your cut date fool.

  • Nolrog

    So he’ll get hurt in a real game, as typically happens with guys who sit out the pre-seson.

  • Nolrog

    While increasing his risk of injury and watching every single one of his team mates go through that punishment. Yeah, that’s a team guy.

  • Nolrog

    That’s a reach. They are not trading him.

  • Zarbor

    It is sad for many of us who supported Bell from college.

  • lonnie

    Doesn’t really matter what he does, we aren’t going to the big dance until somehow, someway we can find people who can cover. Cockrell looked awful again yesterday. I hope someone like Sutton can help us but have yet to see him play. I am encouraged by this Hilton kid, sorry to get off subject.

  • Jaybird

    I was thinking something similar when I read it. I took it as Bell daring the Steelers to cut him. But ain’t no way that’s happening. I actually would not be opposed to a trade- for a good corner. Then pick up another vet running back and we’re back in business.

  • WreckIess

    Eric Berry did this exact same thing last season and Chiefs fans didn’t whine half as hard about it as some of you guys are. Look bottomline is that, it’s a business. I don’t get why you guys accept when NFL teams make business decisions, but then get pissy when the athletes do the exact same thing.

    If he gets hurt during the preseason, he’s not seeing the contract he wants in 2018 so the smart decision for him is to stay away from where the highest risk for injury is to help himself get that contract.

    This doesn’t make him a bad teammate because at the end of the day this contract deal was between him and the FO. If he came to camp and blew out his knee because Keith Kelsey or someone came in out of control his teammates aren’t going to make up for his potential money lost.

  • Big White

    Agreed.

  • Lambert58

    Shut up and show up.

  • Doug McFee

    I really don’t care if comes or he goes. Sick of hearing about Bell and his contract $12,000,000.

  • budabar

    A lot of really good stuff on south beach the longer bell stays down there the closer he comes to another suspension

  • MP

    Love the guy for his stubborness even if he put his foot in his mouth with the music. Hope he gets his money eventually.

  • DirtDawg1964

    Kirk Cousins.

  • falconsaftey43

    You can only be tagged 3 times I believe. The 3rd tag is positionless, so it’s based on top 5 QB money, so looking at +$20M.

  • falconsaftey43

    If he shows up, he doesn’t get to decide if he stands on the side or plays. It’s up to the coaches then, and if he doesn’t comply he is fined.

  • Beaver Falls Hosiery

    89 of 90 players have reported for work and are meeting, watching film, reviewing playbooks together to prepare for a run at the championship.

  • Shane Mitchell

    Doesnt matter anyways he wont play under the tag again, RB is by far the riskiest position to play under a franchise tag, and the Steelers wont try to tag him again anyways, The Bronco’s tried that with Vonn Miller and he told them he would sit out the season instead.

  • Shane Mitchell

    As a QB it wouldnt be a bad deal. not a huge risk of suffering a career ending injury and its a boatload of money.

  • falconsaftey43

    It’s always a possibility He could sit out a year, but it’s a hard line to draw as a player. They don’t get that year back and lose that money. Only have so many earning years, really hard to skip one and give away $14M dollars.

  • Jim Foles

    its good to talk about the players that play.. Hilton and McGee need more reps with the ones.

  • Shane Mitchell

    It wouldnt come to that, its a hardline negotiating tactic, you didnt see Vonn Miller sitting out the entire year, he forced them to give him a contract.

  • Shane Mitchell

    Nope, I hope we trade him to the Browns, give me Isiah Crowell and Joe Haden and he can take his talents to South Cleveland and see how that patient style works without a franchise QB and a top OLine.

  • Shane Mitchell

    Where can I order custom Brown’s jerseys with Bell’s name and number on it?

  • falconsaftey43

    It only happens if the team actually thinks the player is willing to do that. You can’t say it wouldn’t come to that, because if the team believed that, they’d never cave. Player has to be willing to sit out to actually have leverage. Just like team has to actually be willing to let the player sit out to have leverage. It’s a lot easier for the team to find a fill in at RB than it is for Bell to watch his money go out the window each week.

    I expect Steelers to tag him next year. I don’t expect the Steelers to offer him a better long term deal than they did this year, it’s up to Bell what he does after that.

  • Shane Mitchell

    JUICE is busy laying down new tracks, football is basically just a hobby for him. dont you know that? Here is an excerpt from an interview with JUICE.

    When do you find time to record? Do you take a break from recording during the NFL season?

    I still find time to record during the season. Offseason, I record every day until 7 a.m. — all night. If I get off work and get home at 6 p.m., I might only make one song instead of like four or five that night. Just over the course of the season, if I make one song a week, that’s at least 17 songs, and that’s an album. That’s all that matters to me: If I can still do my football thing and still make music.

  • falconsaftey43

    So?

  • Shane Mitchell

    Some insight into the inner workings of JUICES mind, thats what.

  • falconsaftey43

    Ok, so he doesn’t ONLY love football. What does it matter? He’s a legitimate superstar on the field.

  • Shane Mitchell

    Ok I am not going to get into another debate with you about negotiating tactics and leverage already did that with AV’s contract situation and look what happened he got a new contract right before camp and did not sign the tender, playing under that tender was never an option like I sad and he got the contract extension instead.

    I think you are wrong and like Alex in denial about what is going to happen with Bell after this season, guessing Bell is your favorite player on the team, right?

  • Biggie

    He’s not going anywhere unless he overvalues himself out of Pittsburgh which he has started to do. With what they offered they should have been close enough to get a deal done. It appears he is asking for way over what they are willing to pay. He’ll live off this tag this year and we’ll see same situation next year. Tag and here’s the offer and we’ll see if he is more willing to close the gap. If not he’s here two years then we find replacement or complimentary back to go with Connors and move on.

  • Steeldog22

    And AV got paid less than half of what top tackles make. He makes less than Beachum will this year. Not sure what your point with that is.

  • Shane Mitchell

    I am not going to try to dissuade you on Bell, you want to support or defend him, I can understand where you are coming from. I have favorite players on the team or not quite on the team just yet, that I support and defend also.

  • Bradys_Dad

    there ya go – stirring the pot – LOL 🙂

  • Steeldog22

    Agree completely – and I also expect us to draft another RB next year (not real early ILB, TE, S, CB) but at some point. Regardless of how Connor does, Davis and Toussaint aren’t inspiring and we could use the depth.

  • Shane Mitchell

    It was about the notion that a player that is tendered with a tag has no leverage, that is not entirely true.

  • falconsaftey43

    No, he’s not. I’d have to go Heyward and AB as my favorites. We don’t need to go down this path again as it’s clear we view the leverage differently.

  • Michael Conrad

    Ok lets take a look at Bell his playing and what is going to happen . I think both Bell and the Steelers made the right decision. Bell wants what he feels he deserves and I can see that. The Steelers feel the offer was fair and what the agent asked for and Bell turned down. The Steelers and most fans know running backs are not valued like they were before because its a passing league because of the rules. Running backs have a short shelf life . Very few hold up for over six years.

    The Steelers win because if they want they have Bell for two more years and after that his value is an unknown. Bell wins because he gets 26 million and the Steelers win because it was the offered amount and a rookie RB went for 99 yards so they feel a little more comfortable. Its all good.

  • RickM

    My first reaction was ‘why would anyone be pleading with him not to leave’. He can’t unless the Steelers release him and that’s not happening. As for when he reports, I thought it would be this week. Missed that one as well it seems lol. When he comes, he comes. Hopefully Connor will sparkle in a starting role on Saturday.

  • Shane Mitchell

    For people that think Bell will actually play 2 years in a row under the tag, the Steelers offered him more in the contract over the next two seasons than he would receive being tagged two seasons in a row, he didnt turn that contract offer down to bet on himself for two seasons in a row people, He turned it down to bet on himself for 1 season and to get the contract he wants next year and you can bet he and his agent thought about the scenario of being tagged for another year before they turned the offer down. He has no intentions of playing under the tag again.

  • falconsaftey43

    Yes. He ended up as the 20th highest paid LT (avg/year). In fact, it came in pretty much right were everyone was thinking it would. ERFA-RFA-Franchise Tag-Franchise tag would have gotten him about $30M over 4 years. He ended up with $24M over 4. Leverage isn’t so much about will a deal get done or not, it’s about what the number is if the deal gets done.

  • Justin Warrenfeltz

    Please leave, Le’Veon Bell.

  • falconsaftey43

    The fact that the contract they offered him was greater than being tagged twice, would indicate the Steelers are willing to spend the amount of money it would take to tag him twice. (if they were willing to give him $30M for the first 2 years, they would certainly be willing to tag him twice for $27M).

  • Shane Mitchell

    Thats kind of my point but you are looking at the Steelers side of it and thinking Bell and his agent didnt consider the option of being tagged again, they did, and its not going to be an option that they will accept.

  • D.j. Reynolds

    Could this (that they won’t tag him in 2018) be what he is trying to ensure by not reporting yet?

  • falconsaftey43

    Yes. I don’t doubt that Bell doesn’t want to be tagged again, and would even possibly not play if he was. But it doesn’t mean the Steelers wouldn’t tag him. There is very little down side to tagging him, if you’re willing to pay him the money, regardless if he holds out or not. I’d have to look into CBA, because I’m not sure if he counts against the cap if he doesn’t sign the tag (that’d be a downside if he did, cuz you’d lose cap space for a year without the player to show for it, would give the player WAY more leverage). But, as the Steelers, you’re not just going to throw your hands up and let him walk if you want to retain his services and are willing to pay the tag amount (that’s exactly the point of the tag, let’s teams force players to stay). Not tagging him would give up all the leverage. If they tag him, they still have lots of options: sign him to extension, work out a sign and trade with another team, keep negotiating till last minute then pull the tag, have him actually play under the tag, or let him sit out there all year on the tag and hope he signs late in the season for playoff run.

  • Igmond

    How does Bell staying away help the Steelers? It doesn’t. Nothing but a selfish move on his part. Show that you care and show up.

  • MailboxKid

    I don’t have a problem with him holding out. He’s a RB and he gets one big pay day and that’s it. Get your money, son, you deserve it.

  • Steve Johnson

    Sick of this Dude, let’s move on. 5 yr contract, $30M paid over the 1st two years and that’s not enough? The next highest paid RB just signed his deal for five years @ $42M. The Steelers F/O have gotten too soft, kick tires and move on.

  • walter

    I guess thats his way of relaxing. I just hope he doesnt think he can make a career of it.

  • melblount

    Wake me up when he tweets, “I going to the South Side.”

  • Ryan Alderman

    I believe he wants to stay, just wants more money and has prioritized it. Honestly, we need this guy. In today’s football and ESPECIALLY in light of Big Ben being in his twilight with no real replacement in sight, and even WITH Ben, we NEED this guy to go all the way. He’s THAT good. I hope the deal gets done and we have him for another five years or so.

  • Shane Mitchell

    His intentions are already clear by turning down that contract offer, doesnt matter if they try to tag him again he has already thrown down the gauntlet in advance. He is telling them he doesnt want to play for them under a second tag. Sure they could try to tag him again but it wouldnt force him to do anything because he wont sign it, after what has transpired leaving the Steelers at the alter if you will, the Steelers arent going to make fools of themselves clamoring after a player that doesnt want to be here for the amount they are willing to pay him.

  • Ryan Alderman

    That being said, though, I was daydreaming watching the first half of that game yesterday and, as I’m sure many of you did as well, came alive in that third quarter and remembered just HOW FREAKING AWESOME football can be as our defense was harassing their QB and smacking them around with big hits and that swarming mentality that we’ve all grown to love as Steelers fans. I hope Goodell never mitigates this completely out of football. No other sport can match it. I felt like I was ten in the garage with Eye of the Tiger playing hitting my weights and hoping to someday be like Jack Lambert.

    Goodell can change rules all day slanting the playing field, but THAT to me, that defensive display, is the essence of football and why I love this game. Again, just nothing else like it.

  • Jason Dock Dudley

    as opposed to the guys that get hurt that played in pre-season, which is almost every player on the roster.

  • Jason Dock Dudley

    I am sure he is losing sleep about those not wanting to wear or buy his Jersey. He is in a unique situation that most cannot fathom. He has the ability and right to seek the most money for his services and HE gets to decide what his worth is. He also is in a market where there is no “norm” once you reach the pinnacle of his sport/position. Now teams may or may not pay that much for his services, but he still gets to set his terms. Too bad for those that feel they can decide what “is good enough” for him.

  • Jason Dock Dudley

    I don’t know why people cannot understand this. He is not holding out. That term would imply he is not reporting to get more money or guarantees. That is not possible even if the team wanted to give him more per the tag rules. Negotiations are done. He knows this. He just is not reporting to camp because he does not have or want to. So no he is not “holding out’. “What do you call it” was asked. The simple answers he is not showing up until he feels it is necessary.

  • falconsaftey43

    Not sure they’d see it as “making fools of themselves” to tag him and have him hold out. “try to tag” isn’t a thing. They tag him if they want to, he can’t prevent that. All he can do is not show up.

  • Big Joe

    While it may be likely that they tag him again, I’m not sure if I would. With BB’s window closing, I’d have to seriously think about putting the money into the D, retaining a couple of our other WRs, extending our OL where it makes sense, and getting another quality RB in the draft to join Conner in the stable for a lower cost. Bell is certainly one of the top backs in the league but I don’t see the team offering more than they already have.

  • ModusTollens

    if he was worried about getting hurt, he should have signed the more than fair contract offer. he is making this out that he is some sort of victim. my issue with bell is that he has been suspended twice due to his stupidity and selfishness putting himself above the team, lied that his motivation for not signing the contract was that he didn’t want to devalue the tag value but, as it turns out, he was just being greedy. being a bad teammate is putting yourself above the team. holding out for a few weeks is one thing but if he thinks he can just waltz in right before week 1 and and think he is 100% is just being selfish.

  • John Phillips

    Not being able to catch the ball (well) does not mean he will not be a good or even great back, anyway. If he can block decently, run well, and not have a case of the fumblies, I’ll be thrilled. Not everyone is Le’Veon Bell.

  • Big Joe

    To be clear at the start, I am not a fan of Goodell but the rule changes associated with player safety are business decisions as well. The more often the players are on the field, the better the product, the better return on salary investments, and the fewer law suits down the line accusing the NFL of not doing more to help protect the players from violent hits. Things like concussions are going to happen but players can’t argue for player safety then turn around and sue the league later on for injuries suffered.

  • Robert E Lil

    The best running back in black and gold I’ve ever seen over a single season was Barry Foster.
    Bell may want to speak to him

  • Michael Mosgrove

    Need? No.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    Since you were daydreaming let me clue you in. The defense stunk for the first half.

  • will

    a few years??? try over a decade.

  • ArubaCurt

    The reason you don’t see players getting tagged multiple years in a row is because it is prohibitively expensive to do so. Teams with players good enough to warrant that kind of consideration don’t have the cap room to do it and teams with the cap room to do it typically don’t have players that warrant it.

  • will

    BS…..is Ben or Deebo or even Hayward for that matter. getting unnecessary punishment? Why would it be any different for “LoveMeNot” Bell?

  • falconsaftey43

    He is not required to be there. He chose not to be there because he believes it’s in his best interest not to be there, end of story.

  • popsiclesticks

    It didn’t happen to Eric Berry or Kam Chancellor. A lot of guys who do get hurt did participate in the preseason. I don’t think there’s anything behind this theory.

  • Ryan Alderman

    No? Think Connor is ready for it?

  • popsiclesticks

    No, you cannot suspend a guy for conduct (and thus not pay him) for not showing up to camp while not under contract. You can, however, rescind the tag.

  • popsiclesticks

    Team player AB has made noise for years about wanting a new contract, while signed. Bell played his full rookie deal without saying a word. I’d prefer if he showed up now that preseason is winding down, but I agree…it’s not a big deal. If teams don’t want to deal with this, then don’t tag players.

  • popsiclesticks

    He’s being a victim? He’s just not signing the tag. The team complaining about it every day sounds more victimlike to me.

  • popsiclesticks

    And Trumaine Johnson. And HOF-er Walter Jones.

  • popsiclesticks

    You’d stop at 2 tags because you have to, by rule. He would not sit out the season because he’d be guaranteed $15 million dollars by playing. It rarely happens because it’s expensive but it definitely does happen.

  • popsiclesticks

    Doesn’t mean he’d actually do it. LaEl Collins told teams he’d sit out if they took him after the 3rd round but he didn’t. Eric Berry ended up playing on the tag. Bell is very unlikely to pass up $15 mil guaranteed.

  • popsiclesticks

    I don’t know if he’s allowed to.

  • Russell Stauver

    Disagree. Something is only worth as much as someone else is willing to pay for it.

  • Russell Stauver

    They didn’t handle the rock as much either. If football shape isn’t important, why conduct all the preseason workouts and exhibition games?

  • popsiclesticks

    Ask Adrian Peterson, the Vikings held him out of the preseason for years at a time. Ben hasn’t taken a preseason snap yet. The preseason is much more important for fringe guys than established stars. And maybe it serves a purpose but that doesn’t make it significantly important for a guy like Bell, who has shown that he is always in tip-top shape..

    It didn’t keep Walter Jones out of the HoF.

  • Russell Stauver

    All really great running backs share a common thread – a great OL. Can’t make somethin’ outa nothin’.

  • Luke Wroblewski

    Gotta be honest, kinda worried when he says “until they get rid of me”. That could mean a lot.

  • popsiclesticks

    Why? They offered him $30 mil over two years, but then they have his rights for 3 more years. The tag pays out $27 mil. So he’s giving up $3 mil for the opportunity to sign a big contract on the FA market after next year. You might not agree with it but there’s a lot of it that makes sense from a financial perspective.

    If he gets hurt so badly that he doesn’t get a good offer in 2019, then the Steelers would have just cut him if he were under a big contract.

  • Ryan Alderman

    Your point?

  • popsiclesticks

    Why? You’re ignoring that he can’t play for anybody if he doesn’t sign the tag and the Steelers don’t pull it. Why would he do that? I mean, he could, but there’s no way it’s a foregone conclusion because he didn’t sign this deal.

  • popsiclesticks

    The 2nd highest paid running back is not on Bell’s tier and signed that deal without leverage, as he had one year left on his rookie deal. If David Johnson signs for less than $12+ mil (barring serious injury) I’d be stunned.

  • Ryan Alderman

    I don’t mind him sitting out the games a bit, but I do agree being back with the team and getting some reps in, both physical and mental, is much-needed just to shake off the rust. It won’t take long, though, agreed, not with an athlete the caliber he is.

  • Steelmania

    James caught 21 passes for Pitt in 2016 for 302 yards, and 4 TD’s not bad considering Pitt had Good Receivers and a Good Tight End!

  • falconsaftey43

    Bingo! Long term deal puts a cap on his earnings, but a very limited floor (only whatever the garuntee is). He’s just taking the small risk that he’ll at least earn whatever the garunteed money was in that contract with the potential to earn more on a different deal in 2019.

  • Russell Stauver

    Good point. Bell should still be practicing in camp.

  • Shane Mitchell

    No you dont thats just what people assume is the rule, you can tag a player 3 times in a row, and before 2016 it was an indefinite number of times as long as a team was willing to pay the increase every year.

  • popsiclesticks

    You’re right, but it becomes prohibitively expensive each year. They’d have to pay him $17.5 mil in 2019.

  • Shane Mitchell

    Huh? he just passed on 30 mill guaranteed.

  • popsiclesticks

    He wouldn’t have passed on it if the alternative were $0. Bell is very unlikely to take $0 as opposed to $15 mil.

  • Shane Mitchell

    And thats what I was getting at with the tag 3 years in a row statement , if they tagged him 3 times in a row it still wouldnt equal the 18 mill a year he thinks he is worth right now,let alone 3 years from now.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    David Johnson will break the bank.

  • Shane Mitchell

    Because Its exactly what Vonn Miller did to the Broncos to force their hand after they wanted to tag him 2 years in a row, and it worked because he is the best in the league at his position, and Leveon Bell feels he is also the best in the league at his position.

  • Shane Mitchell

    I dont think you people are grasping the type of money he expects to be offered to him by another team, he is looking for an 80-90 million dollar contract and likely half of that guaranteed and sitting out one season doesnt net him zero long term, what it does is allows him to get the contract he wants from someone else sooner without risking injury playing another season for the Steelers for 15 mill. He would be risking 80-90 mill to make 15 mill for one season. He would get the additional 15 mill back in the new contract without assuming any risk.

  • WreckIess

    QBs don’t get hit in practice, Deebo is almost 40, and yes Heyward is participating in practice. None of them are in a contract year so it’s not even close to the same circumstance. They have financial security.

  • WreckIess

    You think it’s “more than fair”, but that doesn’t matter. The guy who would actually have to sign it doesn’t think so. He’s not acting like at victim (don’t even know where you got that from.) he’s keeping himself safe. Like I said, if he gets hurt, his teammates aren’t about to pay his contract. So I’m all for him doing what’s best for him.

  • kwin1979

    The Browns aren’t going to be good this year, but their line is actually really good, at least on paper.

  • Dan

    Ben’s transgressions were far worse though. Can you imagine the backlash he would have gotten today, with the public much more sensitive to such things? Bell just smoked weed a couple of times. That’s nothing compared to sexual assault allegations. (Or it should be. Looking at you, Mr. Goodell.)

  • Q Fourtyfive Unowho

    Try telling that to Barry Sanders

  • Rob

    And until Adrian Peterson’s release that was 14M for the best RB in the league. That’s why he is in a unique position, and I don’t really have a hard opinion on his holdout or contract situation.

  • Zach Bolen

    That is where you are wrong he worded it “unless they get rid of me” that says I am here until they don’t want me.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    Ninja –

    I agree he was nervous. But I don’t think that was the cause of his drops. He just doesn’t have a lot of experience catching passes so he hasn’t developed good hands yet.

    Conner’s first two years at Pitt, he ran the ball 444 times (total), but he only caught 8 passes. His junior year (after the cancer treatment) the coaches implemented a more pass friendly system where he ran the ball 216 times and caught 21 passes. But still that’s not a lot.

    If Conner wants to be a dual threat RB he’s going to have to practice that skill a lot more.

  • Rocksolid20

    Nothing can change the amount of money he will get
    this year , makes no difference if he’s in camp or at home .
    The money amount is set .If he were in camp , I’m sure his
    carries in a meaningless game would be very low . So tell me an advantage to staying away from your teammates ?!

  • Rocksolid20

    And the first hammy he pulls , what will be said then ?

  • Darryl Watkins

    Ummm… The Browns might have the best O-line in the league, right now. Be careful with what you wish for. I wouldn’t wanna play Cleveland with Bell behind that line, twice a year.

  • Darryl Watkins

    It’s not a hold out. The deadline has passed for contact negotiations. He’s just not showing up because he is not officially under contract with the team. Until he signs the tender, he has no insurance and would assume full liability in the event of an injury.

  • Darryl Watkins

    So you’re saying he will sit out the entire season? Because contract deadline was July 17… a long term deal is out of the question until 2017 season is in the books!

  • Michael Mosgrove

    running backs by committee works for me. would it be nice to have a talented player? yes. is it worth his nonsense? no.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    you claimed the defense was good. i am debunking that. they allowed wayyyy too many 3rd and long conversions, they missed tackles left and right and these were some of the starters.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    haden is washed up.

  • Shane Mitchell

    You reckon Bell could shake Sean Davis if we brought him up in the box?
    Dont answer that, you know you may have a point maybe we dont want to trade him to the Browns.

  • Shane Mitchell

    Maybe, but looking at our outside Corners it would be worth the risk, getting off that team might rejuvenate him. would you rather have him outside or Cockrell this season?

  • Ryan Alderman

    I get you. Still to me Bell is the “straw that stirs the drink” for this offense. Hell, he’s no worse than me-first AB, and they made him the highest paid WR in the game.

  • Ryan Alderman

    I thought the first half they weren’t very good, hence the daydreaming. I’m saving it for the games that count.

  • Steelers12

    I mean getting hurt in training camp and preseason games

  • Phil Brenneman II

    Unless he comes down in price they need to get rid of him. Said it before and will say it again. The only way Bell is worth as much as he wants (or even the 12 he was offered from us) is if he has to carry a guy like Jones or Dobbs. As long as we have our line, Ben and AB, Bell isn’t worth that much to us. This offense can move without him. He makes it easier certainly, but not at that pricetag.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    there’s a difference. well a bunch but the simplest way to explain it is that while brown was behind ward he did show talent, but kept his mouth shut and stayed healthy until he got his earlier than normal extension. letting his work do the talking when the steelers took a chance. yes he has obviously become more of a diva. but even that being said he is still the second ahrdest working guy on the team. and the hardest working guy on offense. he is constantly being asked for advice and help by team mates and non team mates despite this persona. bell has done none of that.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    if i had a chance for a cb thats on another team that isnt some superstar megadealer it would be eric rowe who would should never have let gone to the pats from the eagles when the eagles were looking to trade him last year.

  • Ryan Alderman

    They both clearly work hard. Main difference to me is Brown got paid, They’re both indispensable pieces otherwise. If you held a gun to my head, though, I’d argue signing Bell over Brown as the more prudent option.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    well everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

  • Bradshaw

    Although I really like Bell’s play and would love to have him on the Steelers for his career, I wouldn’t pay him what he wants…
    1) He can’t consistently get on field.
    2) He has a lot of ‘baggage’ as a person (what a big baby).
    3) He is not a team player and in a lot of ways is disruptive to the Steelers’ way.
    4) He is replaceable. If this was a crumby team without other stars or potential stars, I can see him twisting nipples but this team doesn’t need (even without Ben) greatness from the RB. (Above average is just fine.) The OL and other offensive weapons make Bell replaceable.
    5) Conner is a younger, no baggage, and likely more durable version of Bell. I don’t see much difference between Conner and Bell as rookies. Will Conner become equal to or better than Bell, it remains to be seen but I haven’t seen anything that tells me he can’t.

  • mhurk

    I’d rather have Their 1st round pick so We got a shot at Sam Darnold.

  • mhurk

    Basically Juice is a Drama Diva Who just loves the attention, excitement, Im pretty sure He’ll be ready to play, hope He can stay healthy as the Lombardi is the goal, aint no next year!

  • Dan

    Come now. It will be an MCL sprain :D. And it won’t happen until the playoffs. Which is when the discussion will begin anyways.

  • Dan

    I would love a team of Haden and Artie, provided Haden stays healthy. Which can be an issue. Crowell is pretty underrated, too.

  • Rusted Out

    I don’t mind if he doesn’t show up till mid-season to be honest. That would be best for the Steelers if you ask me. He’d probably be able to make it through the playoffs healthy if he only had to play 8 games. I totally agree that he should maximize his earning potential, but not at the expense of leaving your team that offered a fair deal. For everyone saying that he has every right to hold out and use his leverage for more money, they are absolutely right, he does. Just remember this me first type of thinking when he’s wearing another jersey in two years.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    watching the cleveland game. theyre dropping like flies. 8 down so far.

  • Michael Pennant

    2 suspensions, 2 injury plagued seasons and a rejected contract offer of 40% more than any RB in the league. We definitely have a problem!!!

  • Applebite

    Bad time to hold out. 2018 Draft is going to be loaded at RB…

  • Michael Mosgrove

    we dont need a rb early. we need a qb, te and safety.

  • Zarbor

    What in the world are you talking about. His situation is unique to whom? Dude get a clue. He has no ability to seek anything. Do you understand the word “Franchise?” Do you even know how it works? Obviously you do not. He doesn’t set anything unless the Steelers let him go.

    After this year, he has two more years of possible franchise before he’s on the market. Too bad you and those who agree with you aren’t smart enough to understand the facts before making silly comment.

    I’ll be sleeping well too.

  • Steeler Nation!

    I believe that he may think he deserves that. But does anyone else really believe that he is going to get that? We can make fun of the Brownies and Redskins FO all we want, but I don’t think any of them are that stupid.

  • Douglas Andrews

    Agreed 110%. Mike T said he’s been in contact with Bell so he knows the he’ll report . Actually Bell being away helps gives more reps to guys like K Davis and Conner.

  • Don

    Conner had a great debut and I’m excited to see what he can become, but you are high if you think he’s another Bell.

  • Don

    I’m sure you tried chasing AB out of town, too, when he streamed that video in the post-game locker room. What about Ben when he did any of the questionable things in his career? Any other top talent fail to meet a narrow definition of acceptable behavior? You gotta have some lines the players can’t cross, but this ain’t it.

  • Don

    I don’t completely disagree with you, although I wouldn’t say any of the injuries he’s had were related to whether he was in football shape.

  • Justin Warrenfeltz

    Nope and nope. Try again.

  • Ryan Alderman

    That’s why we get paid the big bucks, right? :-). I respect your passion and opinions.

  • Justin Warrenfeltz

    Nope. Try again.

  • Luke Wroblewski

    What does that mean tho? To him, and his agent, if they are not willing to pay Le’Veon what he wants, he might see that as the management not wanting him, even though they do.

  • LucasY59

    yeah I figured they wouldnt be able to, but I would be cautious to give him a full games workload after not practicing for so long

  • Jason Dock Dudley

    you are to ignorant and dense to understand my point.