Report: Hargrave Says He Didn’t Suffer A Concussion

Pittsburgh Steelers second-year defensive tackle Javon Hargrave didn’t see much action in the team’s second preseason game Sunday at Heinz Field against the Atlanta Falcons as the South Carolina State product was removed from the game late in the first quarter to be evaluated for a concussion. While Hargrave was eventually ruled out later during the game with a concussion designation, he said Monday he never was diagnosed with one.

“I didn’t have a concussion yesterday,” Hargrave said, according to Chris Adamski of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. “They just got me in the protocol.”

Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin said after the game was over that Hargrave was still in protocol and apparently he currently remains it.

On the surface, this is potentially some great news for Hargrave, who missed time during his rookie season due to a concussion. If he doesn’t have any setbacks this week, there’s probably a good chance he plays in the team’s third preseason game on Saturday. We’ll have to see if he’s able to practice later this week, however.

Speaking of concussion protocol, that’s reportedly the reason why Steelers left guard Ramon Foster sat out Sunday’s preseason game, according to Adamski. Foster said Monday that he is no longer in protocol, however, but added that is why he sat out a few practices last week and ultimately Sunday’s game.

“I had a little ding in the (Aug. 11) Giants game,” Foster reportedly said. “It was delayed, so I ended up taking care of it. I saw the doctors and we’re taking care of it and moving forward.”

Like Hargrave, it sounds like Foster might be able to return to action on Saturday when the Steelers host the Indianapolis Colts at Heinz Field.

  • Beaver Falls Hosiery

    It was very hot on the field yesterday which can easily lead to some dizziness after some hard hits and is not necessarily a concussion. He may have been taken out as a precaution but believe it is mandatory that he is observed by a league representative before he could reenter the match if he was suspected of being concussed.

    That said; I hope that he is not masking any symptoms. I want him playing as much as anyone but not at the cost of his long-term health.

    Diagnosing a concussion is not a straight up assessment like seeing a fractured bone on an x-ray. A lot of it relies on the responses from the players themselves.

  • T3xassteelers

    Thank god. He’s has so many in his short career.. Not sure how many more he can take if this rate keeps up. So good news!!

  • RickM

    Something was triggered that caused Javon to mention it to the team doctors and it happened pretty early. Hopefully it was just an abundance of caution on his part. It’s great news if it’s not a concussion, but for his sake I hope whatever it is stops happening because he has a great future ahead.

  • WB Tarleton

    They use tests that cannot be faked. They have a baseline for each player and if he cannot perform memory tests with the same acuity as the baseline, he stays in the protocol.

  • walter

    I too doubt he could hide symptoms but I also read in a study that a very high percentage of people that were never concussed will fail the baseline memory test so its apparently a work in progress. There is a lot they need to learn and the learning process is ongoing.

  • WeWantDaTruth

    No need for The Grave Digger to play in preseason games 3 & 4 and risk a possible concussion. Just make sure he is ready to go on Sept. 10 in Cleveland.

  • Lil Smitty

    I thought when a player is in concussion protocol, they couldn’t talk to the media.

  • Dorian James

    That’s great news for J wobbles. And I like the way the team is being better safe than sorry

  • Rob H

    The guy seems to be turning into a complete beast before our eyes, I see no legitimate reason for him to play in either of the last two preseason games. Let Walton get some more snaps in at that position, and just unleash Javon week one against the Browns.
    Come to think of it, except for the secondary, I see no reason to play anyone that isn’t a younger player that NEEDS the snaps more than a series or two this weekend, I could care less if it’s the “dress rehearsal” game, just do whatever you can to keep the key players and veterans healthy heading into the season.

  • Thomas

    1: Better safe then sorry
    2: He could be trying to save face to avoid the CTE talk, but if he didn’t have a concussion that is awesome.
    3: Our medical staff is terrible so it wouldn’t surprise me if he didn’t have one.

  • Beaver Falls Hosiery

    The baseline tests are used to help diagnose but are not the sole means. While the tests can be done online; don’t know if the NFL is administering them on the sideline during games.

    Bottom line, you can pass the baseline memory tests but still have a concussion

  • Matt Manzo

    Best news ever!

  • Beaver Falls Hosiery

    Not true at all. I help coach a rugby team. One of our players took a hard tackle and was dazed. We took him out of the game and he was seen by a medical trainer. She cleared him to play as he was completely cogent after a few minutes rest; pupils were fine; said he experienced no dizziness; headaches or other symptoms.

    The next day he woke up with severe head ache; went to doctor and was diagnosed with a concussion after having been cleared the previous day. The only way we knew is that he reported it. If he had stayed silent; we would have played him in subsequent games not realizing he had been concussed.

    Proper diagnosis relies on the player being completely honest. Even in amateur games, some player are reluctant to report since it means missing games.This is a serious problem not only for NFL but virtually all contact sports.

    I agree with walter that there is a lot more to learn about concussions and CTE.

  • walter

    The study that I read said a large percentage of normal people that were never concussed could not pass it. In other words if you took the test right now there is a chance you would fail. But I would imagine vice versa can happen too, as you just stated. But I didnt know that.

  • Jason Vancil

    Well, better news would be that I just won the Powerball, but I get what you’re saying.

  • walter

    Yes I guess you are correct, because I have heard that symptoms (headaches) sometimes dont show up til later. I guess thats why they are pulled out of the game and put into protocol until they are satisfied. But then again I seem to remember somebody Burfict I think going right back in the game

  • colingrant

    I learned a little something there. Distinguish the difference between “in the protocol” versus, “having a concussion”. I just assumed he had one and went with it.

  • Dan

    Concussion or not, Hargrave could use the time off. We can’t afford to lose our starting NT, even if Walton has been adequate. Really hope he doesn’t have one, but players, especially young players, aren’t often going to admit discomfort and such.

  • VaDave

    You win that and you spend the rest of your life getting rid of it…..if you think getting concussed is a mind numbing experience, try dealing with a half a BILLION dollars. As for Hargrave, definitely good news.

  • VaDave

    I think protocol is the process of dealing with symptoms or affliction. For instance, you go to the hospital and say you have chest pains, the medical staff has a protocol to deal with it that will include testing for a heart attack, and may include treatments, like aspirin for instance just in case you are having a heart attack. You may not be having a heart attack, but the protocol requires the staff to do certain things. And you are not released from this protocol until the condition is ruled out. I hope this clears it up.

  • colingrant

    What your saying is all true Dave, but I was publicly kicking myself in the butt for concluding something that shouldn’t have been. I pride myself on looking past the obvious and fell right into looking at the obvious. 🙂

  • Beaver Falls Hosiery

    Dave – I believe the NFL has two different protocols:

    1. A “Game Day Concussion Diagnosis and Management Protocol” to address suspected concussions during games.

    2.. A “return to participation protocol” that must be followed once a concussion is diagnosed. This is the 5 -step process we hear about.

    Usually, people we just say a player is in the protocol. As colingrant points out; it is important to know which one since it is often assumed a player has a concussion when it may not be the case.

  • VaDave

    Thanks.

  • VaDave

    No need for public self flogging. You can get flogged enough from other posters around here.. lol!! Trust me….

  • The Dumpmaster

    Amazing doctors on NFL sidelines. Not everyone can take care of a bleeding brain.

  • AndyR34

    Nice Dave! I’m guessing that you have experience getting rid of ‘half a BILLION dollars(?)…m-m-m…probably not! 😂

  • NinjaMountie

    Honestly, if they’re going to start getting serious about this concussion protocol they’re going to have to expand the roster and the salary cap.

  • Charles Mullins

    They should both sit out another gam. No need to push it.

  • Brenton deed

    Sounds like the Steelers are erring on the side of caution and why not?

  • Don

    Any word yet on Dupree?

  • Michael James

    Well, technically he had one diagnosed concussion. The two other times he was checked for a concussion, but it wasn’t diagnosed as a concussion (at least that’s what we know).

  • Conserv_58

    I’ll take that problem in a heart beat.

  • VaDave

    Can’t say I’ve had the pleasure, but as a financial planner and having worked with people of considerable wealth, I have a fairly good idea. You ought to read about how some of these mega winners end up. It’s not all sunshine and roses. And as the saying goes, you can’t take it with you which means you ARE going to spent the rest of your life devesting, unless you lose it all first. How about this? Could you imagine what this country would be like if out of your winnings you give everybody a million dollars?

  • VaDave

    Ten, twenty mil, I could deal with. A half a billion dollars leaves behind an enormous inter personal wake. It is power that can easily ruin people and requires huge responsibility. You would have the government up your ying yang, and any number of leaches watching your every step. Finally, that much is not going to be in gold ingots in a vault under your house. It’s more than likely not going to be in a bank as FDIC stops at $250k per account registration, whick means it’s going to be invested in securities of some sort or another. If you think watching your 401k bounce a couple of thousand a day makes you queasy, how you going to react to say daily value fluctuations of $ 20-$30 million in a calm market?

  • Luis Grove

    That’s great news

  • firefromheaven

    You have to have a brain to be concussed. Burfict doesn’t fit that criteria. Just sayin’…