Steelers Training Camp Diary: Day Six

The Pittsburgh Steelers’ training camp practice today was certainly a lower intensity one than any of the others they’ve had in pads so far. It is a long stretch of practice, five in a row, and the always impactful Friday Night Light’s practice is happening tomorrow evening. So smart to ramp things down a tad, many players wearing shorts today, and no live tackling during team drills. Let’s get into what happened.

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Injury roundup. Came out looking ok today. Still out: Cam Sutton (lower body), Mike Mitchell (ankle/foot), Cam Heyward (excused), Senquez Golson (received a monkey’s paw, wishes backfired), and James Conner (shoulder). Some minor appearing bumps and bruises throughout the day. Ryan Shazier with a hamstring, Alejandro Villanueva with the most minor or lower body injuries (he didn’t miss a rep), and Ben Roethlisberger reportedly turned an ankle and sat out the last team session. He’s fine, too.

Bud Dupree looked ok but was held out of the latter three team sessions. Chickillo started at LOLB. Not sure what’s up.

Conner did go through the stretch line and was on the punt block team at the very beginning portion of practice and even went through some drills at quarter speed with the running backs. Expect him to return in no more than a couple days. Possibly by tomorrow.

The other injured players traced the middle field, walking around the sidelines for a lap or two. First sign of on-field rehab. Mike Mitchell practicing ball security, tucking the ball tight to him as he walked around. Sammie Coates did half-speed running and cutting too, a sign that he is inching closer to a return.

New injuries for today: cornerback Greg Ducre did not participate for unknown reasons. Hope he gets back soon. Having a nice camp.

Terrell Watson was the first player out, as he usually is, appearing around 2:30 PM. Unless you count Coates, who is always dropped off first to get work on the JUGS machine.

Phazahn Odom and Demarcus Ayers also got work on the JUGS machine before the 2:55 horn blared.

– Fun part of the pre-practice routine. Maurkice Pouncey and Roethlisberger compete on a crossbar challenge, hitting the cross bar from 25 yards out and then moving five yards back each time they hit it again. Pouncey nearly dusted Roethlisberger, nailing it 40 yards out while Ben was still struggling to hit it from 35. But Ben quickly caught up and had the best throw, hitting a final one from 45 yards deep. Pouncey didn’t have quite the arm to make it there.

Martavis Bryant is inching closer to the field. Literally. Was on the near field with the rest of the team, still not in pads, of course, but standing next to WRs coach Richard Mann and being around the wide receiver huddle in individual work. Later in practice, he ran routes at full speed by himself on the middle field.

– Newly signed TE Jake McGee still shaking off the cobwebs in warmups. Was supposed to settle in the flat with a “defender” (QBs coach Randy Fichtner) sitting wide but he ran into him. Josh Dobbs knew he screwed up and didn’t throw the ball, kinda just staring at McGee. They went through it again, McGee settled, and caught the pass.

– Roethilsberger and Justin Hunter working to get on the same page. Appeared that Hunter took a slide step to his right as he settled on a curl. Ben called out to him, saying “There’s the slide….nothing wrong with it,” and the two went over things for a brief moment.

– Charted the first half of reps for the LB/RB one-on-one coverage drills.

1. Fitzgerald Toussaint on a speed out to the right, cutting off Vince Williams for the catch.

2. T.J. Watt with tight coverage on Jesse James, pass incomplete on a dig.

3. Knile Davis works to the flat and then retraces his step inwards. Ryan Shazier (wearing James Harrison’s #92) jersey closes quickly to try and break it up but can’t do so.

4. Xavier Grimble makes a contested catch on a curl working on Anthony Chickillo.

5. Tyler Matakevich with a rare bad play, grabbing Brandon Brown-Dukes, letting go as to not draw a flag and BBD scoots away. Pass hits off his hand incomplete though.

6. David Johnson with a surprisingly impressive double move downfield, shaking away from Arthur Moats and catching the pass downfield.

7. Trey Williams beats L.J. Fort’s jam, making the catch in the flat.

8. Phazahn Odom’s height really working against him. Can’t rip under Keion Adams coming out of his stance and gets tied up. Quarterback never even tries to throw the ball.

9. Terrell Watson really nice back shoulder adjustment down the sideline vs Steven Johnson.

10. McGee gets away from Farrington Huguenin on an out cut, making the grab.

11. Roosevelt Nix with a catch on an out cut, beating Keith Kelsey.

12. Xavier Grimble beats Watt on a dig. Watt lost his balance at the top trying to follow Grimble’s break. But the pass was off the mark and incomplete.

13. Toussaint wins again working on Vince Williams.

14. Jesse James a quick swim move Chickillo. Chickillo holds him, ref throws a flag, but James makes the catch on a corner route.

15. Knile Davis beats Matt Galambos on an inside breaking route.

16. Huguenin nice breakup on Trey Williams.

– Then decided to look at the WR/DBs on the goal line (and wound up missing when/how Shazier got hurt because of course).

WR/DB

1. Incomplete to Cobi Hamilton. Coty Sensabaugh with the coverage.

2. Antonio Brown out ‘n up and makes the catch in the back left corner versus Artie Burns. But Burns pushes him out of bounds, incomplete.

3. Eli Rogers with an inside stem and then outward cut working on Mike Hilton. Believe the pass was incomplete.

4. Back shoulder throw to JuJu Smith-Schuster incomplete against Brandon Dixon.

5. Darrius Heyward-Bey creates space to the left front pylon versus Brian Allen but bobbles the ball and the pass is ruled incomplete.

6. Receivers now lining up on the 15 instead of outside the goal line. Incomplete fade right corner to Cobi Hamilton, also against Allen.

7. Good press and leverage by Burns on AB off the line but Brown nudges him away at the catch point and pulls in the pass. Convinces the ref to rule it a touchdown.

8. Rogers touchdown, getting away from Hilton.

9. Ross Cockrell gets flagged for pass interference on a fade to the right corner against Justin Hunter. But Hunter does well to high point and catch the ball, getting both feet in bounds for the score. Really strong play.

10. Good body control by Smith-Schuster along the sideline, catching this pass in front of Dixon.

11. Post route by DHB is complete, still working over Allen.

12. Another out ‘n up by AB versus the other AB, Burns, to the right corner. But Burns gets his head around in time and gets enough of the ball to break it up.

13.  Rogers in and then out stem against Hilton, leaping off the ground to make a nice diving catch in the end zone versus Hilton.

14. Dixon does a nice job to swat away a fade to Demarcus Ayers.

15. Marcus Tucker finds the ball at the last second, scoring in the back right corner on Cockrell.

First Session

1. Seven shots, as usual. Like yesterday, Tyson Alualu starting RDE without Heyward. Empty set, Toussaint split out. 12 personnel, Jesse James and Xavier Grimble standing up. Roethlisberger zings a slant to Grimble in between Bud Dupree and Vince Williams for the touchdown.

2. Antonio Brown makes a diving adjusting catch to the left side from Ben before getting tagged up by AB a foot outside the goal line. No magical stretch this time.

3. 12 personnel, empty set again. Davis split out and Justin Hunter in the slot, Grimble farthest to the right sideline. James and Roethlisberger get on the same page and #7 finds his starting tight end open in the back of the end zone. Toe tap by Jesse to finish the play, a welcome sight.

4. AB and JuJu the outside receivers with Rogers in the slot. Bunch set. Roethlisberger seeking Johnson but Sensabaugh breaks it up at the catch point.

5. Josh Dobbs steps in at quarterback. Hamilton and DHB stacked. Dobbs half roll to the right, money throw to Hamilton at the pylon, Mike Hilton in trail.

6. Second-team corners with that line pretty thin. Sensabaugh LCB, Dixon RCB, Hilton in the slot. Nothing available so Dobbs tucks and runs but I count this as a win for the defense, despite the score.

7. Huguenin/Adams at OLB. Dobbs misfires, throwing between David Johnson and Smith-Schuster. Safety Jacob Hagen blanketed Johnson. Defense wins, 4-3.

Second Session

1. With Shazier out, Tyler Matakevich stepping in first team opposite Vince Williams. Maurkice Pouncey pulling with Toussaint behind. Good burst, though that’s easy without pads and when no one can tackle.

2. Tuitt, despite this being a non-tackling drills, drags down Knile Davis. T.J. Watt was really strong at the POA, getting under Grimble’s pads and charging him backwards.

3. Toussaint shows some Le’Veon Bell-like patience but Chickillo keeps a lid on things and keeps the back inside and into the teeth of the defense.

4. Ben checks down to Davis. Watt dipped under Grimble around the edge.

5. Toussaint up the middle. You guessed it, it’s Matakevich flying up either the A or B gap.

6. Nowhere to go for Davis. Lavon Hooks and L.T. Walton, the latter at the nose, doing well to hold the point of attack.

7. Terrell Watson gets the carry up the gut. Nice stack and shed by Keion Adams, working on Odom.

8. Toss left to Brown-Dules. Tries to cut it back but Adams flowed down the line well and kept contain. Would’ve made the tackle had it been permitted.

9. Dobbs playaction. Arthur Moats beats Chris Hubbard around the edge. Quick checkdown to Davis.

10. Run to the right, BBD the carry. Steven Johnson fills his gap and meets him first.

11. Roy Philon perking up the last few days, shedding his block and swallowing up Trey Williams at the LOS.

12. Williams running behind a pulling Kyle Friend. Brian Allen the first man there before Keith Kelsey shoves him to the ground.

14. Watson up the gut. Several Steelers meet him almost immediately.

15. Brown-Dukes also up the middle. Matt Galambos shoots in before DE Nelson Adams bear hugs the back.

16. Quick screen to the right from Bart Houston to Marcus Tucker. Dixon first one to tag him up.

Third Session

1. Bud Dupree didn’t get any work from here for unknown reasons (he was on the sideline, looked fine). Anthony Chickillo inserted into first team LOLB. Roethlisberger throws a rope down the right sideline for a 30-40 yard gain, Justin Hunter stretching out his arms and making the catch with a step on Cockrell.

2. Flag on the snap. Ben checkdown to Davis.

3. Marcus Gilbert steers Chickillo upfield. Roethlisberger with some heat on his throw over the middle. Watt dives for it but can’t make it there in time. Hits Jesse James in the stomach, nearly dropping to a knee, but staying up and turning upfield.

4. Davis the carry off the right side.

5. Toussaint split out wide. ILB blitz. Dobbs finds Hamilton on a curl, Sensabaugh covering.

6. Second team DL: Hooks-Walton-Maxey. Keavon Milton pulling on playaction but the defense stays at home. Dobbs does well to go through his progression, not forcing it down the seam and looks for DHB along the left sideline. Pass is off target and clanks off the receiver’s hand. Hilton had the coverage but didn’t influence the play.

7. Good zip on a pass from Dobbs complete to Demarcus Ayers on an out cut.

8. Brown-Dukes cuts back to his right. Pile up of players and L.J. Fort took a second to get up before walking off the field to get some water.

9. Empty. Box loaded, Matakevich blitz. Looked like Cover 1. Roethlisberger hits Brown on a drag left to right, who runs away from everyone and scores down the right sideline.

10. Playaction. Roethlisberger another perfect throw over the middle downfield to David Johnson, catching it over Watt and in front of Sean Davis.

11. Roethlisberger a beauty down the left sideline for AB. Looks like he made the catch working on Burns but the ref rules him out (there was “video” review moments later, AB’s personal photographer capturing it, where the ref confirmed the pass was incomplete).

12. Hooks generates some pressure. Bart Houston looks for Hamilton on a comeback to the right sideline but it’s dropped off Hamilton’s outstretched hands.

13. Fire X blitz. Houston heaves the ball down the left sideline for Marcus Tucker, who has a step on Allen, but the pass is a step in front.

14. Brown-Dukes did well to square up in pass pro. Houston hits Nix in the right middle, working to the flat.

15. Houston again complete to Ayers. Jake Rodgers doubled over in pass pro but managed to seal Huguenin upfield.

Fourth Session

1. Screen to Davis. Matakevich immediately there for the “tackle,” getting home before the line can peel out to him.

2. Matakevich again making plays. Dobbs with heat over the middle to Johnson, probably 15 yards downfield, but Matakevich gets a paw on it to knock the ball away.

3. Gilbert seals Chickillo. Dobbs throws a go-ball down the right sideline to Antonio Brown versus Burns. Not a lot of space but really good ball placement and Brown hauls it in.

4. Draw to Davis. Matakevich again first man there. Think Davis tripped over him and falls.

5. 2nd team offensive line: Hubbard-Milton-Finney-Feiler-Hawkins. Hawkins good base block. Toussaint carry up the middle.

6. Playaction. Dobbs wants Johnson in the flat but he’s covered so Dobbs works to Nix, on a Hank (curl) route over the middle. Pass hit off Nix’s hands and incomplete.

7. Hamilton leaves his feet to make a catch, as he usually does, but complete on a curl from Dobbs. Adams swimmed over Hawkins but Hawkins has the length to seal him upfield.

8. Dobbs complete to Ayers. Fort truck sticked Watson in pass pro. Whew.

9. Draw to Davis. Golden fills the alley and Tuitt chases from the backside.

10. Here’s a fun one. Vince Williams taken out and the Steelers go dime. First time I’ve seen it all camp. The six defensive backs: Davis and Golden at safety. Burns, Cockrell, Gay, and Hilton at corner. Interesting. Pass goes through AB’s hands. Maybe he was just as surprised as I was.

11. Toussaint on a draw. Trips up.

12. Houston checkdown to Nix.

13. Mesh route (two drag routes crossing each other). Tight end always sets it, the receiver running under, and Houston hits Jake McGee over the middle. Keion Adams in coverage.

14. Huguenin beats Rodgers and the tackle has to hold on. Houston complete to Odom.

15. Nothing for Houston to work with. Smart play to check it down to Watson but his foot work is off and the pass floats over the back’s head.

Fifth Session

1. Dobbs first team QB with Ben out. Jesse James on an over route across the middle. Zings it between Steven Johnson and another defender but James can’t haul it in as he goes to the ground.

2. Outside zone to Toussaint off the right side. Matakevich, Johnson, Alualu all there.

3. Watt may have beaten Villanueva. Looked like he was getting held trying to bend the edge. Fort blitzes. Dobbs just tucks and runs.

4. Two receiver set, Smith-Schuster in the slot. Brown-Dukes up the middle. Matakevich fills his gaps, Tuitt sheds his block on the edge.

5. Yeah…can’t read my notes on this one. Something about Dobbs throwing the ball down the right sideline and the pass was incomplete. Best I can make of my terrible handwriting.

6. Draw to Davis. Chickillo crashes down to tag him up.

7. Adams swats down Dobbs’ throw at the line of scrimmage. Does the Dikembe Mutombo finger wag.

8. Watson carry right side. Adams sheds his block and is the first man there.

9. Ayers in the slot. Trey Williams on the draw. Good stalk block by Cobi Hamilton on Hagen. Sensabaugh and Williams run down the left sideline.

10. Dobbs strong throw over the middle to connect with Marcus Tucker on a dig.

11. Brown-Dukes up the middle.

12. Terrish Webb and Malik Golden at safety. Brian Allen and Brandon Dixon at corner. Watt works under Brian Mihalik and pushes him into the pocket. Throw from Houston over the middle to Ayers is behind. Allen with the coverage.

13. Williams up the middle for a short gain. McGee good seal of Huguenin.

14. Third team DL. Adams-McCullers-Philon. Kelsey/Galambos the ILB. Hubbard in at tackle eligible. Houston forced to reset the huddle, issue with David Johnson’s motion. Johnson pulls right to left and Watson follows behind.

15. Ayers and JuJu on the outside, Canaan Severin in the slot. Bubble from Houston to JuJu on the right side. Huguenin the first one there and Galambos gave chase.

Final Thoughts

– Pretty quiet day all around. Lower intensity. Josh Dobbs continues to shine. Ball gets out quick, in rhythm, with accuracy and ball placement. Shows the same whether it’s over the middle or down the sideline. Doing a better job going through his progressions after struggling there his first two days.

– Marcus Gilbert with a good day. No surprises there though.

– Keion Adams is hitting the ground running. Showing a good football IQ, the ability to drop and cover, and some basic pass rushing ability.

– Tyler Matakevich continues to be one of the stars of camp. Hasn’t had a bad day yet and shows his coverage chops, too.

– Mike Hilton had two breakups in 7v7. Both against tight ends (James and Odom). He’s going to make himself a tough cut.

– Brian Allen hasn’t done much yet. Hoping he can show out on special teams in the first game. That’s his path, anyway.

– Still looking for Sean Davis to make a splash play. Aside from one breakup in 7 shots the other day, he’s been quiet. I guess that’s sorta typical for safeties though. Farthest away from the ball.

– Scheme wise, Steelers continue to run empty on the goal line in seven shots. Either in 11 or 12 personnel. Think you’ll see a lot of that this year.


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History Through A Lens

What could have been. No doubt Joe Gilliam had talent. If you have any stories/memories of him, let us know in the comments.

Football: Pittsburgh Steelers Joe Gilliam (17) in action vs Cleveland Browns at Three Rivers Stadium.
Pittsburgh, PA 9/23/1973
CREDIT: Walter Iooss Jr. (Photo by Walter Iooss Jr. /Sports Illustrated/Getty Images)
(Set Number: X17881 )

St. Vincent Snapshot

Jordan Berry with the boot.

Ron Swanson Quote Of The Day

“That’s the real reason I hired you. Those brownies were damn good.”

About the Author

Alex Kozora

Full-time blogger from mom’s basement. Marrying tape and statistics. Chidi Iwuoma is my favorite Steeler of all-time.

  • Steelers12

    Brown, Bryant, Hunter, JuJu, Rogers wow Steelers giving been weapons all over

  • Steelers12

    Hey Alex so are u leaning towards keion Adams pushing moats off the squad and who is more active teaching players up Hines or Ike?

  • CP72

    Marcus Gilbert might be the most underrated offensive lineman in the league.

  • WARisHELL

    I wouldn’t be upset if Dobbs lit it up in the preseason and managed to take the #2 QB spot. Wouldn’t be mad at all…

  • WreckIess

    So Gilbert just doesn’t lose I see. He’s been like the AB of the O-line so far in training camp.

  • Beaver Falls Hosiery

    Great snap of Jefferson Street Joe with Frenchy Fuqua (33) and Bruce Van Dyke (66) on the ground. Gilliam was a slinging machine.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Stellar job, Young Steeler’s Depot Alex K! Sounds like Dobbs is really settling in! Niiiiiiiice! Dirty Red is killin’ it (TJ Lavin voice)
    I’m just loving where this defense is right now, especially seeing where we came from! #salute #letsmakeithappen #onehunned

  • Michael Mosgrove

    this is killing me not being at camp for the first time in 3 years. ugh.

    i am STARTING to feel a little better. fever and headaches have finally gone away after a week and a half. chest congestion and bad cough still hanging around. this year is just not looking good for me to be there. i have surgery on the 14th wont be able to leave the area for a week in case of issues post op. so i literally have about a window as big as as golson’s chance to be on even special teams.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    aint going to happen unless landry stays injured.

  • PaeperCup

    What would happen if Ben tossed a ball to the sideline and Martavis caught it? ….just give me something there.

  • steelmann58

    They will keep Hilton if he makes plays wish Golson comes back soon

  • GoSteelerz

    More kudos to Hilton, I’m liking the sound of that, hope he keeps it up. I’m not discouraged about Brian Allen, we knew he was a project when we drafted him. It sounds like the effort and ability is there, it’s just going to take time to develop his game. We’ll just have to see how he responds on special teams, that will be his ticket for now. Always like to read good reports about Dirty Red. Also nice to see Keion Adams making some noise, another possible late round find for us. Defense as a whole seems headed in the right direction. Can’t wait to see these guys in the preseason!

  • Alex Kozora

    This. Still Landry’s job.

  • Alex Kozora

    Consistently excellent!

  • Alex Kozora

    Adams’ path will still come on special teams. They haven’t done much of that in camp. So I can’t answer that until we get a look.

  • ShoguN

    Dobbs is better than Landry. Already. Sorry.

  • Alex Kozora

    I assume Goodell climbs down a ladder from his secret helicopter circling Latrobe.

  • Alex Kozora

    Get better and good luck with the surgery, Michael.

  • Alex Kozora

    Thank you! Dobbs and Dirty Red doing well, no doubt.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    no. just no.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    appreciate it. considered giving yall my hotel room but ended up just cancelling the reservation.

  • Alex Kozora

    Thanks but I honestly didn’t need it. Don’t mind the drive. Latrobe is very pretty.

  • Brenton deed

    #92 is fined.

  • steelmann58

    I think Adams is going to be another 7th rounder making this team. Sounds like the DL will have some nice depth.

  • steelmann58

    I think you going to some great battles at the backup CB Hilton and Ducre and I am gong to include Golson

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    #92 urine tested!!! 😂😂😂😂

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    I Thought he was a top 100 player last year.

  • TrappenWeisseGuy ;

    Was just going to say the same thing. Certainly sounds like a much more accurate passer than Laundry. I hope they give him a bunch of series in the preseason to get his feet wet.

  • Reggie Cunningham

    I agree. The only thing some of you guys can say is. Landry knows the playbook. Get Off the Boo boo. The guy sux.

  • Big White

    Dirty Red will be the starter on opening day. Sorry Vince, luv ya!

  • DoctorNoah

    #DirtyRedHOF #BronkoNagurskiDontLie

  • DoctorNoah

    Nicely done

  • Gautama Om

    Still too early.

  • Matt Manzo

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Landry gets pulled in a regular season game for Dobbs. As long as Dobbs keeps impressing.

  • Steelers12

    😂😂😂😂😂

  • Steelers12

    🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • Matt Manzo

    Who would you start at RB right now? Fitz or Davis?
    Also, I’m very intrigued by the Dime personnel. Is it safe to say that they’re experimenting with a slot CB instead of Golden? I know Golden was at FS, but I’m thinking if they liked a Safety as the extra DB they would’ve had Dangerfield in there.

  • Shane Mitchell

    Damn i wish we would have drafted Budda Baker

  • Matt Manzo

    I wanted Josh Jones! But I think Juju will be solid.

  • Gautama Om

    Its looking like more and more that Marczi is dead wrong on Metakevich everyday, HOOYAH.

    I doubt that they’ll put the better player on the field here since its so close but if it was the case I’d say Metakevich over VW which is arguable in some corners but for sure Metakevich in the long run over VW.

    If this guy ran a 4.6s on the forty he’d be comparable to Kuechly.

  • Gautama Om

    I hope so. If they are going to put their best player on the field that should be the case.

    I think Dirty Red will be better in coverage than VW given his intelligence/intuition. If you didn’t know…over the last 4 years VW has had 190 tackles meaning he’s played possibly almost 2 season’s worth of snaps BUT he’s only had ONE pass defensed.

    Even just going with a “blindfolded” prediction, you still can’t go wrong with Metakevich over VW in coverage…and an edge vs the run so far in TC.

  • Ross McCorkle

    Metakevich is really standing out. Just about every opportunity he gets he makes the most. Def worth a starting shot someday.

  • Ike Evans

    Jefferson Street Joe Gilliam …..my father always said he was better then Bradshaw but the drugs had taken their hold by 74….damn shame…my dad’s barber has pictures with Gilliam on the wall at his shop on the hill….said Joe started rolling around with heavy security cuz he was getting death threats all over the city after takin Bradshaw’s starting spot…crazy

  • ShoguN

    My man, Landry is 3rd string at best. 😂

  • Michael Mosgrove

    So is your iq.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    anyone who seriously thinks that dobbs is going to unseat landry for the backup spot unless due to injury is mentally retarded and doesnt comprehend how football works.

    ive done snap break downs.
    alex has done articles,
    dave has done articles,
    matthew has done articles.

    people would rather go with feelings than facts. thats what is wrong with america these days. dont let the facts get in the way of something you can complain about.

    mental midgets.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    there is zero chance of that happening.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    not the 53. he’s slow to the ball. cant block. cant flip his hips. has trouble on contested catches.

  • LucasY59

    he looked good in the HOF game, Awuzie dropped an INT

  • Danielsteelstrong81

    Especially when he shut down von Miller twice

  • SoCal Steeler

    I do remember seeing Gilliam play when I was a kid and thinking that he actually looked better than Bradshaw when he got to play when Terry was hurt. Not that I thought he was going to take over for Terry but that they had his successor in place. Alas, the drug problems reared their ugly head and it just wasn’t to be. He did have some very nice games though and will be remembered by Steelers fans, the ones my age and older, at least.

  • Taylor Williams

    Considering he only gave up 1.5 sacks last year. I think to the bungles? I remember him slipping. He’s our best lineman.

  • Taylor Williams

    He rarely ever loses these days. He was our most consistent lineman last year.

  • Taylor Williams

    Depends on what happens in the preseason. Dirty red lights it up then he starts. If not than Vince starts.

  • SoCal Steeler

    Glad to hear that Dirty Red and a lot of the young guys are looking good so far. I can’t wait to see them play. I want to see for myself if Dirty Red has improved in coverage, We already know he’s a beast against the run. I also hope Golson, Sutton, Martavis and Sammie are all back soon, I want to see them all play and bring more competition to camp.
    Coming to Pittsburgh Aug. 12 and have to leave on the 20th so I won’t be able to catch a preseason game but I’m hoping to get out to Latrobe at least once.

  • Zach

    yep, specially at home. perhaps Week 9 when the Jaguars come to Pitt?

    always a tradeoff between maximizing the chances of winning if Ben goes down (which I believe will be higher with Landry at this point) vs seeing what you have there with Dobbs in a reg season game (the team already know what Landry is).

  • Boom

    Mike…insults are not necessary, especially slurs that are meant to demean and degrade people with special needs. You generally make excellent points…make a coherent point and move on. Insults are totally unnecessary and stomps on others opinions.

  • SilverSteel

    Then MT would be lying if TM outplays him. That is MTs mantra. He plays the person showing the most, consistently in practice. Told the guys first day of OTAs. He said he wasn’t sure everyone believed him.

  • Jim Foles

    Gilliam had one passing speed.. A .308

  • ShoguN

    Hey my man, your articles and snap breakdowns mean nothing. Who are you? If you really analyze tape, and take into account each players situations, you can easily state that Dobbs is potentially a better player. Also, it’s evident that Dobbs has a stronger arm, and I believe he’s more accurate than Jones. Also, Mr.Dobbs clearly has tons more “moxy” and confidence which is a must for great quarterbacks. Landry has none of that. He seems to be content with being a backup, however Dobbs will always work to be the best in the league. This may be laughable to you now, but I look forward to revisiting this comment after ..maybe a few preseason games. By the way, I read all of the articles, and follow these players interviews and tape as well ..but who am I? ..just and young reigning turkey bowl mvp and true Steeler fan. P.s. you should smoke something, you seem stressed.

  • SilverSteel

    We do a lot of that around here. No need for it.

  • capehouse

    Still crazy to me that Sean Davis won Steelers rookie of the year over Artie Burns. I think their growth so far this season makes it apparent who the better player was last year.

  • StolenUpVotes

    Remember when a section of people were beyond frustrated with his deal? lol

  • Michael James

    You can’t really say anything right now. Of course Burns will have more highlights: he goes up directly against the best in the business and is targeted way more often. That’s why he (deservedly) gets so much press. It’s much harder for Davis as a safety. He can’t shine in one-on-ones and he isn’t really allowed to go full out in tackling, too.

  • Josh

    For the record, I’m not apart of this awesome community. I’m a part of this awesome community.

  • Alan Tman

    Jefferson Street Joe was awesome!! I can still see him back there bouncing up and down on the balls of his feet with the ball down to his side, and then WOOOOOSH!!!! He had much more passing talent than Bradshaw (Bradshaw even admitted this on a television interview ). He loved throwing to Stallworth while Bradshaw liked Swann. (Bradshaw later admitted Stallworth was the better receiver). Bradshaw was a better fit for the team, because of the defense, because they both called their own plays. Gilliam would throw 30 to 40 times a game with plenty of 3 and outs (especially when the drugs were in play.) , so the defense was on the field too much. Bradshaw would call more running plays and run the ball himself too. Much more ball control, and resting the defense. He started the 74 season and was 7-0-1 I but was benched. I believe the drugs made him unreliable, and Bradshaw started the Superbowl run instead of him.

  • mokhkw

    Especially an opinion shared by ex-NFL Scouts, Coaches and GMs who think Dobbs can be the #2 and beat out Jones this preseason. I doubt they’re “mental midgets”.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    I apologize. Dealing with some personal stuff has made me a bit cranky last couple weeks… it was a moment of weakness. I have deleted it.

  • Boom

    No problem. Happens to all of us. Looking forward to a great season!!!

  • John Noh

    What an amazing seventh-round selection he’d end up being if he contributes meaningful minutes at ILB this year. It may make the ILB position not such a high draft priority in the next draft.

  • Jon Crissinger

    Exactly why I get super excited whenever I hear Dupree got the better of him

  • Big White

    zero chance, huh?

  • dennisdoubleday

    I’m getting really pissed about the Bryant situation. Nobody should have the despotic powers Goodell has. It’s like he’s trying to make sure that Bryant will get off to a slow start in 2017 as extra punishment above and beyond the suspension.

  • Crowned

    Seems like Adams is doing just as well as Moats. If they do prove to be close to even I hope Moats is not kept over Adams just because of his name and what he does for the community. More excited for the rook.

  • Terrible Towlie

    why Landry playing in the regular season?
    don’t jinxing Ben like that

  • Michael Mosgrove

    Zero.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    Who am I? Someone who has done stat breakdowns on multiple Steelers sites for years. Someone who has pored over videos, social media, training camp reports, otas, mini camps, Game reports, Walthers, football outsiders, pro football reference for a very long time.

    You’re a “true Steelers fan” yet you rather go with the flow rather than research.

    Stats say Jones is fine. They also say that Dobbs has no chance barring injury to supplant him This year.

    Also if you’re not going to listen to the people that do the work, then why are you Here? Feel free to leave the site.

  • Terrible Towlie

    I woulda voted for Hargrave….

  • capehouse

    Truth be told you’re probably right. Hargrave did have a better season, but with about half the snaps as Burns did.

  • SteeltheKing

    It will come down to special teams. Moats I believe is on most, if not all, special teams. Adams will have to be close on coverage teams to even have a shot. Moats also makes himself valuable by knowing all 4 LB positions. Won’t be considered for a starting ILB spot, but in a pinch on game day he can play. I believe Moats will get the nod, and Adams goes to the PS. I would be happy if I am proven wrong though. Always get nervous with stashing someone with pass rushing potential on the PS. Occasionally they get poached. Rare, but it happens, especially with pass rushers.

  • SteeltheKing

    Have to admit the receiver I have been most disappointed in after reading these reports is Hamilton. Thought he showed pretty well last year but it sounds like he is having a rough camp. with the receivers that are under contract he can’t afford to have a so-so camp. Disappointed in Bryant a little too, because there had to be something he didn’t do that has hung up his full re-instatement. While it’s still possible the NFL is just dragging their feet for some unknown reason, I think there would be some kind of information coming out from the league or Bryant, whoever didn’t screw up. Reading the comments there are many fans who share this frustration.

  • SoCal Steeler

    I’m really curious to see him some in coverage. If he had a weakness, that was it. I do agree with Colbert in that he could definitely be a Vince Williams type ILB. I think both him and Vince will be studs against the run so it’s a great problem to have.
    If they do go ILB in the draft or free agency next year I could see it being more of a pure coverage guy but if they get that hybrid S-LB that we all wanted this year we won’t even need that cover ILB.

  • ShoguN

    That’s great, but please don’t think you’re the only one out here doing research. Nowhere in my comment can you conclude that I “go with the flow” …what is the flow? I see many people who have the same opinion as you about Dobbs. Please tell me what stats say Jones is fine? Have you watched him on the field?Since you do so much research, can you please tell me what “stats” say that Dobbs has no chance? Also, there are millions of “fans” out here that know much better than old nerds who study stats, get out their calculators and try to write articles that are turn out to be goofy when you look back at them. Have YOU ever played the game?

  • Michael Mosgrove

    I didnt say i was the only one doing research. Ive read your comments. You go with the popular opinion. Go look at pro football reference for Jones stats and then compare him to most of the starters and then do the backup. He does better than most. I’m not some old nerd either because I know how to look into analysis.

    And yes. I’ve played football, rugby, American football, and hockey.

  • ShoguN

    I rarely even comment at all my friend, and you referred to this sport as “American Football”..so now I know all I need to know. I also know both players stats, because I’ve done the research. Most importantly, I’ve observed every snap of Landry’s career in the NFL and all the film available on Dobbs. My point is, Dobbs has all the tools and ability to pass Landry. If you see both players and have half a brain you can see that he has a chance ..you claim he has no chance.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    the sport is american football. real football, what you americans and no other country calls soccer are vastly different. as for dobbs vs landry. dobbs MAY have more upside in the long run but barring injury right now, it is VERY unlikely that he supplants jones this year.

  • ShoguN

    Alright my man, enjoy the season!