Steelers vs Giants: Winners And Losers


I missed these lists. Missed football. Both are back tonight, highlighting the winners/losers in the Pittsburgh Steelers 20-12 win against the New York Giants.

Winners

T.J. Watt: Though his two sacks were some of the easier he’ll ever get, as Mike Tomlin admitted, sacks are still sacks. He nearly recorded a third, batted a pass down, and showed top level effort across the field. Most impressive was his conditioning. Tasked to play on several special team units and defense, Watt’s play never dipped. Only one game in but so far, so good.

Arthur Moats: It’s no surprise that Moats was as dominant as the stat sheet tells you. But with the team being thin at OLB, only having three active, he did his part. Three sacks an interception and six total tackles. Keion Adams better get on the field ASAP.

Cobi Hamilton: While Hamilton has had a difficult camp, he shined tonight. He helped get Josh Dobbs going with a snag over his head for a 44 yard gain. The two hooked up on a 28 yard touchdown late in the first half. His path to the 53 is still a Mt. Everest type climb but he played well tonight.


Mike Hilton: Hilton Fever continues. He recorded a sack on a slot blitz, played the run tough, and recovered a fumble on special teams. As I’ve said throughout camp, he is not a lock, but is doing all he can to make the 53 man roster.

Jake McGee: McGee was a mid-training camp add and doesn’t offer much as a receiver. Instead, he profiled as a blocker and proved it tonight. McGee’s lead block on Terrell Watson’s touchdown was critical and he threw a similar one earlier on the same drive. He also may have been playing over Phazahn Odom, which is something to monitor.

Knile Davis: While Davis’ stats don’t look pretty, he ran tough, was able to create, and showed burst. A better runner in camp and tonight than I pegged him for when he was signed.

Keith Kelsey: The UDFA linebacker from Louisville was an asset on special teams, recorded a breakup, and had a textbook tackle before leaving with a shoulder stinger. Hopefully he can go next week against Atlanta. Worth another look.

Losers

Jerald Hawkins: To be fair to him, it’s hard to judge an offensive linemen at first glance. But Hawkins seemed slow in his recognition, allowing free rushers off the right side. His run blocking looked only marginally better. Certainly not the start, in camp or tonight, he expected.

JuJu Smith-Schuster: It’s obviously not his fault. Smith-Schuster suffered a concussion chasing down a Dobbs’ pick in the first quarter. Still, it’s a missed opportunity to push for playing time, especially after a strong start to training camp. We’ll see if he can get on the field next weekend.

Brandon Dixon: Dixon was called for pass interference twice tonight. Not a good way to get your name announced. With Hilton playing well, and Brian Allen showing up late, Dixon was on the short end of the stick.

Bart Houston: He may have flashed an arm, and showed decent command of the huddle, but his accuracy was poor tonight. He missed Marcus Tucker on a flag route and deep ball, the latter of which would’ve been a touchdown. He finished the day 2/7 for 24 yards.

 

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  • Anthony Barnes

    Mike Hilton will lead us to the promised land!

  • Big White

    Good for Moats. A lot of chatter of him being done in Steeltown with the draft of Watt and development of Chick. A good, versatile player and a very good man.

  • B&G

    Good list, Alex — but I’d put Canaan Severin on the losers’ list too. Bad, bad drops.

  • I don’t know how you forget Terrell Watson on the winners list. Scored, ran hard, showed burst, broke some tackles. What more could you ask for from a fringe guy?

  • DarthYinzer

    Another loser: Severain. Limas Sweed hands. Which is not good.
    Another winner: The defense as a whole. No TDs allowed? Oh yeah!

  • Alex Kozora

    Don’t always get everyone. OL opened up big holes. You all know I like Watson.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    additional winners:
    LJ Fort
    Jordan Dangerfield
    Tyson Alualu

    additional losers:
    coty sensabaugh
    brian allen
    marcus tucker
    shade tree
    odom

    meh:
    rogers

  • Octavio

    Canaan Severin losers list, two chances, two drops

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Winner: Steeler Fan’s sanity! We need wins even in preseason!

  • Steel B

    Agreed.

  • Anthony Barnes

    Watson = 🐐

  • Taylor Williams

    Shade tree looking like a soft tree.
    A oversized sprout.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Yup, doesn’t matter much, but I still far prefer winning preseason games to losing them.

  • Steel B

    Hilton made plays on D and ST. He’s a keeper. Hamilton did well too.

  • Ace

    Hilton just solidified his spot over Golson for sure, and soon maybe Allen next. If he hasn’t already. I thought Adams would take Moats job. Not anymore. Moats did what vets are supposed to do against scrubs. He dominated. Receiving core besides Cobi stunk. Bad drops by couple guys. I liked what Watson did better than Davis. Conner needs to get on the field. RB depth skill not looking so good. Dobbs impressed a bit after the bad start. Receivers sure didn’t help.

  • Ken

    Super bowl Super bowl Super Bowl!

  • DAWAARE

    Laughing at idiots who beliebed hawkins can replace A.V

  • NimbusHex

    Considering how thin we are at DB right now, I’m a little surprised that I don’t remember seeing Sensabaugh once.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Yeah, it doesn’t matter much to me, because I just like to see what we have in a team, but a win is the cherry on top!

  • WreckIess

    Winner: Tackling. It’s just one game, but I don’t remember seeing too many missed tackles this game. Hopefully they can keep building on that.

    Also, I’m going to have to watch this game again because I was watching Watt on pretty much every play, but did anyone notice anything different coverage wise?

  • dany

    I laughed at people that said Coates would not be on the 53, but if Hamilton continues making plays (he did last year too, not just this preseason) and they can’t find a trade partner it’s not unfathomable he doesn’t make it, especially if he doesn’t get on the practice field soon

  • Ken

    Another winner was the entire 1st qtr defensive unit keeping the game close, while Dobbs was confused on the jerseys colors.

  • How about Colin Holba. Perfect on the night!

  • Ace

    Sucks for JuJu. Went in head first at Blake and ran smack into James. Could have taken out a starter playing reckless. Hope we don’t have an issue here with that concussion…they can linger sometimes as we all know.

  • YUNG ROBINSON

    I’m surprised Canaan Severin didn’t make the losers list because he had a few drops

  • Michael Mosgrove

    he was put in mid second quarter played rest of game. #24. he was there. wasnt targeted much, didnt do much.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    dont get me wrong. big dan walked players backwards. but he was facing 2nd and 3rd string. he missed opportunity to get a fumble recovery literally right behind him. gotta have more situational awareness.

  • Chris92021

    Agreed. The one from Dobbs especially hurt.

  • francesco

    Losers were Severin and Dobbs.
    Winners were Hamilton and Hilton

  • francesco

    I’m thinking that Hamilton passes DHB and Coates on the depth chart.

  • All he does is catch the ball, how do you cut a guy like that?

  • walter

    if you dont hear a CBs name called in a real game its usually a good sign. But in this case I dont know.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    all he does is catch? forget the last game we played where he dropped 2 tds in the end zone?

  • francesco

    I’m also thinking that Dobbs has a flawed throwing action. Not sure how he can ever surpass Landry. And if that is the case…we better fond another AN to mold asap.

  • Even AB drops some balls from time to time. Hamilton makes a lot combative catches. He may not make our team because of the log jam at the position, but he will be playing for some team this year.

  • 2winz

    I’ve been saying that I think Davis might be a good fit for the Steelers as a 3rd rb. He may not have been the right fit for the Packers and Chiefs, but I think he can be a Mewelde Moore type back for us.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    loser: me
    picked the fairfield inn in east rutherford over a bit more expensive hotels. this is not the best hotel.

    anyone from here that has suggestions on where to eat breakfast tomorrow?

  • steelburg

    Hilton looked good tonight making plays tackling on defense and on special teams so I would as of now put him as the 6 CB. But we really need a guy who can cover and he didn’t get a chance to show that tonight due to the QB play. After tonight I’m slightly worried about the CB group and the TE group although it’s still early.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    if hilton stays like this. our cb group wont be an issue.
    as of this moment the picking order should be

    gay, cockrell, burns,
    sutton, hilton, sensabaugh.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    yes. hamilton will be playing. but not for us. id say houston, the skins, maybe the chargers.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    the pass from dobbs on the move had a low chance of success anyways. cant really fault him for that.
    yes it did go through his hands but thats more of a reaction thing.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    a bit early to call hamilton a winner. other than the td. didnt do much.

  • Beaver Falls Hosiery

    JuJu’s concussion was because he led with is head – all fpooball players should know how to shoulder tackle.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    he had a couple low snaps from what i saw. but its to be expected in first game.

  • steelburg

    I know people are going to jump the gun on Hilton but IMO we got absolutely no feel of what he can do in coverage yet. The QB play was so bad that the CB group couldn’t even be evaluated IMO at least not covering people. But to Hilton’s credit he did do everything else right. But he could be Antwan Blake in coverage for all we know because the QB play for the Giants was so bad that none of our secondary guys got exposed they all looked at worst average in coverage except for 35 he was awful. But I agree with your order but I still wouldn’t put Hilton over Sensabaugh yet.

  • Sdale

    I feel like wins in pre-season is a good indication that we’re putting a good overall team together that has good depth. In years past, we would score 10-14 points when our 1A/1B teams were on the field, but then get drilled when 2nd and especially 3rd teams were in. It was obvious we weren’t deep. Now, we’re holding our own with those other players and I think it’s an indication of the better depth. It’s about the only thing I look for in pre-season games.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    the point is. is hilton is making play. golson isnt. THAT alone is why hilton taking golson’s spot.

  • Biggie

    Brian Allen looked bad in coverage, Watson looked good running the ball, powerful guy. Fort made a number of plays as well.

  • Wayne’O

    Glad to see Dobbs redeem himself after a very shakey start. Couple of big throws to Cobi, and showed a little mobility. Let’s remember he was facing the Giants ones in that first quarter. But overall not a bad night, would like to see progress over the course of the preseason.

    TJ: BEAST
    MOATS: DOMINANT (LOCKED UP 53)
    HILTON: ONE STEP CLOSER TO 53.

  • Chad Weiss

    ROFLMAO

  • steelburg

    You clearly didn’t read my first post where I said that Hilton would be my 6th CB right now. I didn’t even mention Golson. So what are you talking about?

  • Michael Mosgrove

    i read it.
    i brought in golson for a reason. you said you were worried about coverage from cb’s. people have been calling for golson to be the cover cb. hilton, while didnt show much in way of coverage was making plays.

    with another year under their belts, burns and cockrell should improve. that takes pressure off the outside. Gay, almost a year removed from his little known injury coming back to form will improve the slot cb work. Sutton if used as a relief to gay/ replaces gay midway through the season, or used as a dimeback will improve the coverage. hilton, while not showing much in the game, has been solid in coverage according to alex.

    so by all accounts if the current active cb’s even just continue our cb corp should be no issue.

    tight end is extremely weak. while david johnson in solid, i fully expect grimble to take over jesse james’s spot. i still think they should bring in gary barnidge as a body. at a worst case he doesnt perform well post surgery and you release him in a couple weeks. on the other hand if he has bounced back he is a solid tight end. kind of a poor man’s heath. age and injury have scared teams off and ruined his market.

  • John Phillips

    I would have Toussaint in as disappointing as Watson was impressive. I keep wanting to get excited about Fitz, but every time it feels like a let down. I saw a few plays he looked like he might break (much like I have seen in the past), but it seems like he lacks a little in vision, and misses the holes, or maybe just doesn’t time it right.

  • Shane Mitchell

    Did Sensabaugh play much? thought I saw him on the sidelines with his pads off.

  • From what I saw, every kick and punt went off without a problem.

  • Rob

    I agree. 2 to be exact from what I caught.

  • Rob

    Saw a good bit of press man, off man, still zone, but they were doing a bit of everything.

  • You should have quit while you were ahead. Calling for Grimble to take James’s starting spot is foolish to say the least, lol.

  • GoSteelerz

    Everyone knows I love Hilton, this was a nice start for him, he already has a niche and performed well, keep on keepin’ on young man! Other things I noted… Hamilton is a gamer, not that he doesn’t practice hard, but he just finds a way to make plays in real game action. Impressed with McGee’s blocking, being able to hit a moving target and open up holes for your runner is a nice skill. Speaking of runners, Watson runs hard, made the most out of some well blocked plays. Liked Dobbs’ poise, just needs to keep working/developing. So far T.J. looks like a quality first rounder. I want us to keep Keion Adams around whether on the P.S. or the 53, but whatever happens, until he’s ready to take over a role on this D, it’s nice to have the steady presence of Arthur Moats out there. Thought our D did a solid job on 3rd down overall, that’s something that needs to continue with even greater consistency. Thought Tucker looked good too, just got overthrown, at least he made a couple nice special teams plays. Looking forward to the next game!

  • steelburg

    Will we be improved enough to challenge Brady? That’s the only question that needs to be answered. I’m pushing Golson down the depth chart at this point I’m thinking a waiver wire or cap casualty guy or another 5th or 6th round pick for someone. Golson and Sutton are in the same boat right now neither are playing or practicing. The hope for me is that the front 7 applies so much pressure that the secondary doesn’t have to be great. I think we can make it back to the AFCCG with our CB group. But I can’t see us beating Brady with this group. I’m less worried about the TE group with Bryant coming back. But that group just needs another playmaker IMO.

  • steelburg

    I agree lol. But they TE group IMO could definitely could use another playmaker to challenge what we already have.

  • No doubt.

  • T R

    Loser: NFL Channel.. kept switching the game to Chiefs game.. had to get on m laptop and watch it on GamePass..

  • Winner = Me. I live in NJ and the game was broadcast on WNBC.

    Next three weeks

    Loser = Me because I’ll have to hunt for the games on NFLN to catch them.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    True about the depth!

  • Beaver Falls Hosiery

    false advertising – there was no mention of KC/SF game by NFL Channel.

  • Well said.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    next year top priority is QB, Safety and Tight End.
    safety is more of an issue than cb at this point. if the current safeties continue the same level of play as last year, danger zone will replace mitchell, or the two will compete with a draft pick. golden will be gone.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Bingo.

  • Darth Blount 47

    I’ve got the replay recorded at 4am. For some reason, my DVR shut off during the live game. Grrrr. I also need to go back and get my eyes off of Watt. Lol.

  • Darth Blount 47

    And the legend begins…

  • Michael Mosgrove

    thats funny:
    because james has never been a decent blocker. he’s had a couple specific plays he did okay but thats it.
    because james has never been consistent with his catches. he’s up and down.
    because james has consistently had weak camps. 12/22 with 3 drops.

    grimble has flashed more. his receiving needs work but has improved more than james has.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    well from my spot on the 30 yard line it looked like at least 2 were low. we will see what happens in the next game.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    something to watch. rain may have had something to do with it. it rained pretty good here.

  • steelmann58

    Houston not long for this team lucky for him no cutdown not quick

  • Reggie Cunningham

    put Servin on the list. He should’ve caught 2 balls. 1 for sure td from Bart

  • pkeats86

    I remember seeing him on the bench almost the entire second half. Maybe I will have to rewatch. What made you put him on the losers list?? I didn’t see anything atrocious that I remember.

  • Reggie Cunningham

    Watson looks explosive. I’ll take him over Croissant I meant Toussaint

  • Big White

    It wasn’t that long ago that Chris Boswell was bagging groceries.

  • TrappenWeisseGuy ;

    Fitz’s ceiling seems to be as a 3 ypc guy. Hardly awe inspiring.

  • Reggie Cunningham

    1 game for a rookie Qb and you throwing the towel in. Were you looking for Peyton Manning or something

  • Reggie Cunningham

    That was ticking me off too.

  • Reggie Cunningham

    I didn’t get a chance to see Bart. NFL Network kept showing the Kansas city chiefs

  • ND_Steel

    Still don’t understand what led to Moats getting less reps last year as he was pretty productive the previous year.

  • Dorian James

    Alualu was a handful for sure

  • Petherson Silveira

    To me, Watson was by far the best RB out there.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    It was more not seeing him do much. Wasn’t near the ball or in on tackles much.

  • Bryan Ischo

    Even if you don’t agree with other people’s opinions do you have to call them idiots?

  • pittfan

    Yup he sukd

  • Steve Johnson

    Too small, but I love his effort.

  • Steve Johnson

    Alex, you probably could add Brian Allen as well. Hopefully, he improves in coverage next game.

  • SeventhHeavan

    Dobbs played just like I figured. Like crap! 4th round pick. Crazy. I know it’s his first game but I don’t think he has it. Landry has nothing to worry about. We need to pick up a QB journeyman.
    And why is Touissant still on the team!?

  • Douglas Andrews

    Valentino Blake Yep even though he plays for the Giants he’s on the losers list. What was he doing on the TD to Hamilton?

  • Douglas Andrews

    looks good as a gunner. On the recovered ST fumble he really got down the field like he was shot out of a cannon.

  • SeventhHeavan

    I can’t believe that is Antwon Blake. Changed his name to Valentino…Hilarious!

  • Douglas Andrews

    Yeah not sure what that’s all about. Maybe we missed something??

  • Jeremy Miler

    Other than the 2 biggest plays of game, he didn’t do much at all. 😀 Well, 2 of the biggest plays. Good game for a guy reportedly struggling in camp.

  • Jeremy Miler

    Agree, but I believe he was going after the ball. Kinda stupid emotional play, but I do like the emotion.

  • Jeremy Miler

    Winner: Me
    I felt like I knew this team. The performance was as expected based on how it was reported throughout this offseason/training camp. Thanks especially to Alex and the Depot.

    Winner: Me
    Its great being a Steelers fan right now. This year has the feel of something special. I am definitely drinking the koolaid. A lot of players that are really fun to root for on this team this year. Like maybe about 60 or so which kinda even sucks.

  • 6 ring circus

    That Hines Ward talk might’ve gone to his head, no pun intended.

  • Taylor Williams

    Golson is even smaller.

  • Jeremy Miler

    The last 1 or 2 roster spots at WR usually contribute more through S.T. and DHB excels while Coates seems better that Hamilton. Still like him and Ayers and Severin for P.S. Another preseason game like this and he won’t survive until P.S.

  • Bobby hains

    Bingo!

  • Taylor Williams

    Being Blake. He’ll give up 100 yards and 2 tds, but come back and get a pick 6.

  • michael young

    Watt looked like the real deal out there. High energy, high effort and excellent hand usage to disengage from blocks to make a tackle. I’m loving this pick more and more as I get to see him play. Even without the sacks, there is reason to be excited.

  • Bobby hains

    True my friend lol

  • Bobby hains

    Agree… He’s been having a darn good camp… One of my new favs

  • Bobby hains

    Or the jets!

  • Bobby hains

    Lmao good one

  • Michel Smiffi

    I don’t think you can exclude Dobbs from the losers list.
    Yes, he bounced back to some degree, and the second INT can happen if a rookie QB gets confused.
    But the first one was probably the ugliest throw I have even seen a professional QB make.
    I mean, he underthrew DHB by at least 20 (!!!) yards.
    Obviously, not all is lost for him after just one game, but that was not a start to compete with Landry Jones for the #2 spot.

    Same goes for Tuissant btw. He was awful.

  • Michel Smiffi

    He started.

  • Michel Smiffi

    Yeah, I remember a simple curl route where the WR stopped right at the line to gain, and Allen (for whatever reason) kept running about 10 yards downfield.
    I’d rather see him on the PS and Hilton on the 53.

  • Michel Smiffi

    There were two kicks by Boz that barely got off (and he still made them) due to low snaps.
    I hope Holba gets it together.

  • SteelerzGuy

    Dobbs was actually pretty awful. I know, 1st game…. However he really only had 3 good plays: One scramble, the 44yd to Hamilton who made a great leaping 44yd catch on an overthrown ball, and the TD pass (the one that didn’t count – Other one was high too if I’m not mis-remembering. Other than that Dobbs was throwing high all night and never seemed to recognize or see the breakdowns in pass protection / blitzes coming at him. Overall – Piss poor accuracy and a lack of pocket awareness most of the night. Dobbs also missed pulling the trigger on several plays when he had open WR’s.

    Also, to me Niles Davis just looks flat out awkward when trying to “Waddle” sideways like a Penguin on runs. Terrell Watson looked a whole lot more agile and fluid – granted, against lesser caliber D

  • Steel B

    Yep. Pure bait and switch.

  • SteelerzGuy

    Hey Alex K / Dave B – How about a new stat. Modified Kickoff Return Yard Average. Niles Davis caught a kickoff 3-4 yards deep in the endzone, ran it out and was tackled at the 11. So, in essence, he cost the Steelers minus 14 yards (Would’ve been at the 25 if he just took the Touchback). Return yards and averages should be counted / factored in on the plus minus side of the 25 if the returner had the option to take the touchback. Heck, to make it simple just make a stat that includes Touchbacks and gives them a 25 yd credit for each one if they catch it (Not if it goes through the endzone obviously)

  • Douglas Andrews

    Can’t wait for the fans to go nuts with the….. Holba Holba Holba! chant lol

  • Jim McCarley

    The Steelers could have blown this game wide open with a catch here and there. If it hits your hands, you have to catch it. PERIOD. I think they’ll be in good shape with who they have, provided that they stay healthy.

  • jsteeler

    Great list. The OLB crew May be the best in the burgh in a while. 5 sacks and the starters Bud & Deebo didn’t even dress. Watt looked fast.
    Moats looked powerful. Bull rush, No joke. Wow. Hargraves could have been on the winners list. He was quick and stopped plays in the backfield consistently.

  • Alan Tman

    I think Dobbs was a winner too after he got rid of the nervousness. A lot of young players would have tanked after such a horrendous start.

  • kakello34

    I don’t remember Chickillo to anything, ever…

  • Conserv_58

    He was scratched due to his hip flexor injury he incurred a few days ago.

  • kakello34

    Well that would explain it.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    2 sacks, 2 interceptions numerous bad throes. No way is he a winner.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    20 no. Maybe 10.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    Valentino is his middle name.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    NFL network apparently did.

  • Conserv_58

    Alex, There is one other player that earned his spot on the winner’s list and that is B.J. Finney. I thought he played a very good game in place of Pouncey, especially considering he’s still learning the position.

    What impressed me the most about this game was how good the depth is at OL, DL, RB and WR. Several backups showed they’ve got game and that is comforting to see. IMO, Finney, Alualu, Hamilton, Matakevich, Hilton, Watson, Moats and even Dobbs had decent showings.

    It thought Terrell Watson ran better than Kniles Davis did. He looked more decisive, fluid and was more physical.

    All in all, it was good to see the Steelers play a strong preseason game again. The defense, minus several starters, showed significant improvement over last year at this juncture. I’m very encouraged by how physical they were. To be able to keep the giants out of the endzone, even though the offense turned the ball over, was outstanding.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    He played quite a bit. Didn’t do anything.

  • Alan Tman

    Do you know how many games Ben has had at least 2 sacks and two picks? The thing he did was fight back and win.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    Neither will be on 53.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    No. Just no.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    Get out of here. You are not seriously comparing a rookie to Ben. Dobbs is a qb3 and plays like it. He was terrible till they pulled him. He had maybe 4 good plays. Maybe.

  • Conserv_58

    Yup, he certainly did look the part of a rookie, but he also had two TD passes with one called back due to a penalty. He played the way I expected him to play in his NFL debut, shakey and inconsistent. However, I really liked what I saw in his eyes when the camera showed a close up. Absent was typical wide-eyed, fearful and overwhelmed look that most rookie QB’s have in their first NFL game. Dobbs was raw coming out of Tenn. What he did do last night was he showed promise. He showed he has the qualities and attributes to build on.

  • Conserv_58

    Oh I certainly agree with you. Leading up to yesterday the NFL channel had the the Steelers/Giants game scheduled and when I went to their channel and no Steelers game. Luckily, one of the network channels had the game on.

  • J Jones

    Tj played ok…cam heywards interior pressure caused one sack amd the other was on a busted play. Seems as if he struggled to get any kind of pressure outside of that. Dobbs played well once he decided to use those legs instead of just sitting in the pocket. Hes a poor mans Cam Newton. His ability to run will always keep defenses off balance. Like most young mobile qbs his pocket awareness is terrible. Love the Giants for throwing the kitchen sink at his young a$$. The first quarter was hell for him, but he bounced back nicely.

  • Alan Tman

    That’s how Ben won his first five years!!! LOL

  • Alan Tman

    He was 7 for 10 and 2 TDS after he got over the nervousness.

  • Alan Tman

    2008 we won a Superbowl with Ben’s 17 TDS 15 INT’s

  • SilverSteel

    Post of the week. Too funny 😂

  • Mrs Bighead

    Jeez give the kid a chance. Nobody is calling him the heir apparent to the throne

  • Mrs Bighead

    Touissant’s been awful for a while. Speed of an interior lineman

  • Mrs Bighead

    Didn’t see the game, please tell me Fitzgerald “5.4 40 yard dash” Touissant didn’t return kicks last night?

  • pittsburghjoe

    Looser, Dobbs’ height. He looked really short out there and appeared to have trouble seeing over the line at times. Not a critique of his performance, just an observation.

  • SilverSteel

    Cmon now, if Hilton keeps this pace up, he makes it period. Who is matching his production in practice? Burns and that’s about it.

  • Shawn S.

    Just don’t cross him!

  • Mrs Bighead

    Also, nice to see Willie Parker score last night

  • SilverSteel

    His game play added to his practice reports though say this guy can play. Better than Sensi, who knows. I think they both make it. But we all have been reading Alex’s play by plays. We should have some feel for his skills. He reads like he kills it every practice.

  • capehouse

    Just watching the game right now. I can tell you right away I’m disappointed in the opening kickoff being taken out and not making the 20. Dobbs had good protection on the 3rd down, but hurried the throw to… no one. Ouch! Holba’s snap looks a little off target, and the advertised bigger than normal rookie LS gets pushed backwards and falls over lol. Great start.

  • SilverSteel

    What happened to James. Did he forget how to catch? Not a great camp. We need him to step up this year.

  • SilverSteel

    I’m pretty sure most have written him off already. I guess we’ll see.

  • SilverSteel

    Sloppy routes and limited quickness though from my reading. He does flash though. I’ll give you that.

  • SilverSteel

    Hmm didn’t notice that. Hope he works that out.

  • RickM

    You are the only guy on the site who can turn a Dobbs’ first game discussion into a negative 5-year critique of Ben. Of course we have that ultra important factor that seems to trigger your discussions like this.

    Just so you can maybe drop the silliness, Ben had 10 TD’s versus 4 INT’s in the playoff runs to win our SB’s in 2005 and 2008. Yes, he played very badly in the 2005 SB, but we never get there without him. And he had a 3-1 TD to INT ratio in the 2008 playoff run, and one of those TD’s was the brilliant final drive featuring the Santonio Homes end zone catch. So drop the most negative 2008 stat that you can search for and find, and realize we won a SB and he passed us the length of the field in the last, clutch two minutes to win it all.

    And just to set the record straight, ignoring 2006 when he had the motorcycle accident and then the appendectomy. Roethlisberger had 83 TD’s versus 46 INT’s in 2004, 2005, 2007 and 2008. Not that actual facts matter to you.

  • SilverSteel

    Woo freakin hoo! 😎

  • Michael Mosgrove

    i was referring to watson and allen. hilton will be on 53 as 6th cb.

  • Wayne’O

    Great observation Tman, how easy we forget.

  • SilverSteel

    I hate that too. Drives many posters away.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    even with the grimble touchdown i wouldnt call him a winner. he needs practice. period.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    i must have missed ben throwing 2 interceptions every game for 5 years. and missed the fact that ben only ever had 4 good plays in a game. smh. talking to you is like talking to a potato.

  • SilverSteel

    We look deeper overall. Not like last two years. We had no depth.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    he’s showing the limits of a 5th rounder. this is why i was rooting for adam shaheen so bad.

  • SilverSteel

    Agreed. Spot on. Noticed the same thing. Just made similar post.

  • capehouse

    Yeah first 2 seemed off so far. Just watching now. The 2nd was worse than the 1st.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    i was sitting near the 30 yard line on the giants side. i may have missed some things while i was looking at my phone typing in on here. but i think i only saw maybe 2-3.

  • Pghomer

    This is a repeat of last preseason for Moats. Did well against 3rd teamers … but nothing of note during the regular season. Still like him as a guy…but now just a guy as a player and hope K Adams shows something to keep him to develop.

  • SilverSteel

    Ummm. Soft and buttery.

  • capehouse

    Marcus Tucker and Knile Davis opened the game. Same result. Run out of the endzone and returned to the 17 lol.

  • SilverSteel

    He did show quickness and burst in that long run though.

  • Alan Tman

    It just amuses me how everyone else is destroyed on this site by the fans and a one to one ratio during the whole 2008 Superbowl season is dismissed. I like Ben, but damn give everyone else the Same benefit of the rose colored glasses.

  • SilverSteel

    I was hoping Orndoff would show something. Felt he could block and catch. Maybe he comes back. Odom is letting me down though. Expected more.

  • SilverSteel

    Ahh. My bad

  • RickM

    Unlike you I showed fairness, and said I was somewhat impressed by Dobbs and said I thought he had a higher ceiling than Jones. What did you do? You used your go-to move of criticizing Roethlisberger.

    And spare me the phony ‘I like Ben’ stuff. He had a 32-11 TD to INT ratio in 2007 and a 17-15 TD-INT ratio in 2008. Guess which one you decided to mention? No one who “likes” Ben consistently chooses the most negative stats they can find about him.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    call the bears tell them they can have coates hamilton and ayers for shaheen.

  • NYCSteelCurtain

    Brent Grimes is 5’9 or 5’10 180. Don’t count him out just cause he is small. Not saying he will be as good as Grimes but the kid showed some great effort last night.

  • NYCSteelCurtain

    He’s making this team, no doubt in my mind. The teammates love him and he knows the playbook. He’ll be more effective than Keon Adams in year 1. Stash him on the PS.

  • NYCSteelCurtain

    I agree, and he’s a willing and capable blocker who can catch out of the backfield.

    Might like to see Watson get a chance, needs to show on ST

  • NYCSteelCurtain

    Great to have him and LT with another year under his belt. Our DL with Heyward, Hargraves (who was an animal last night), and Tuitt will be dominant.

    With Alualu and LT coming in with fresh legs will help even more. Would love to see more of a healthy rotation this year.

  • NYCSteelCurtain

    Trade Coats in that Trumaine Johnson speculation.

  • SilverSteel

    And Golson 😝

  • NYCSteelCurtain

    Put Hargraves on this list. He’s looking beastly!

  • Arthur Moats is looking good.

  • Dorian James

    Absolutely, there is no excuse not to have a good rotation this year. Barring injuries they should be able to keep all of those guys fresh by playoff time

  • RickM

    Roethlisberger set an NFL record by winning something like his first 13 regular season games as a rookie and he had 17 TD’s to 11 INT’s for the season. I agree, it’s an amazing and incredibly inaccurate comparison to make.

  • Alan Tman

    27% of Ben’s first five years 24/80 not including preseason games Ben had at least 2 INT’s and 2 sacks.

  • Alan Tman

    27% of Ben’s games in his first five years 24 of 90 games he had at least 2 INT’s and 2 Sacks.

  • Alan Tman

    27% of Ben’s games in his first five years 24 of 90 (not including preseason ) he had 2 INT’s and 2 sacks.

  • Alan Tman

    It’s not that I don’t like him. I dislike all the unfair criticism of everyone else. Sorry to disappoint you.

  • Brendon Glad

    Make plays….that’s what Steeler fans love & expect the OLB’s to do…easy or not.
    Watt and Moats did that in spades.
    Easier said than done…but if the D is gonna hum…then yep, as always, the OLB’s making big plays is crucial.
    Very happy

  • Alan Tman

    Not true. In a post yesterday I said Ben will throw for 5000 yards this year, but you want to defend him so you pick out the bad ones. And yes I use them to say if you want to pick on these guys what about your guy.Also I wasn’t talking to you at anytime in this post.

  • francesco

    I was looking for an Andrew Luck or a Steve Young😊

  • hdogg48

    Red Zone Play

    Steelers O 2/2
    Giants O. 0/2

  • Alan Tman

    Lol you are making my point, because despite his errors we were winning when he left, but despite the same outcome you arrive at different conclusions for people playing the same way!!! LOL

  • Brenton deed

    Hawkins got one hell of a wake up call… I’m guessing complacency is to blame … too many good judges had him rated better than that coming out. Time will tell…

  • Kevin Artis

    Severin drop two easy passes. Moats was playing against 2nd and 3rd stringers but i think we need him for another year. Might need him after Harrison retires. McCullers is done. Watched him and he didn’t even get off the line of scrimmage.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    he’s still a thing?

  • Reggie Cunningham

    After the 2 int.. He started looking exciting to me. You guys can’t expect a rookie to go 350 yards and 4 tds. I’m just saying. A lot of butterflies and i hope I don’t mess up get the best of you sometimes.

  • RickM

    So in other words 1 in every 4 games, not 1 in every 1 game as you half-jokingly implied.

    As for you not disliking him, no one even mentioned Ben as a comparison until you did. And the natural comparison anyone would make would be rookie to rookie – how did Ben look in his first year? But no, you ignored the fact that he won his first 13 games as a rookie and had a 17-11 TD-INT ratio. You didn’t even mention it, because it would actually make Roethlisberger look good.

    I wouldn’t mind your comments about Ben’s past performance if they showed some balance. But they are as far away from that as possible. A guy who won his first 13 games, and who won 2 SB’s in his first 5 years with 10 TD’s – 4 INT’s in the playoffs is somehow comparable to Josh Dobbs’ play last night. I’m amazed that anyone can distort facts like that, but I shouldn’t be. The last word is yours.

  • Jaybird

    I’m rewatching the game right now and Hargrave had a good game. Two run stops for loss of yards. Can’t wait to see this dude this year.

  • Reggie Cunningham

    How you guys are going to compare a rookie first start to a guy that been in the league…. That’s not fair. After the 2 int… he started looking exciting to me than Jones whole career. Jones started all the preseason and played the whole game 1 yr and still looked like crap.i think it was 2015 preseason games. Where they played him the whole entire preseason. You guys are bashing him off 1 preseason game. Yes the kid is going to make some mistakes. Learning curve.

  • Reggie Cunningham

    That’s funny. You’re blaming him for 2 sacks. That’s the offensive line fault..lol. Some of you guys comments are too funny. The kid did bounce back.

  • Reggie Cunningham

    1 game for a rookie. C’mon dude. You guys root for Landry Jones but this guy made plenty mistakes and real bad throws.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    sacks arent always the lines fault. first one he held too long. second one grimble went on a go route no one blocked the guy. neither one showed much pocket presence.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    all 4 AFCN teams won.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    im not saying anything yet except dobbs was not good. we need to see more and he needs more practice.

  • Michael Pollard

    Brandon Dixon with his hand in the air celebrating after Moats’ pick rubbed me the wrong way. Get out in front and throw a block and he might get in the endzone.

    I hope that shows up in the film room as a teachable moment.

  • Alan Tman

    You keep making my point Ben played games like that and won, and considered a hero. 5 games in his rookie year 2 INT’S and at least a sack. All wins, but look at your recollection. But people are killing Dobbs because he showed the same resilience. But because I say that I’m the bad guy?? Wow. Lol

  • Alan Tman

    Just stay away from my post, and I won’t bother you. There that’s easy.

  • hdogg48

    Pass rush Wnner
    7 sacks

  • hdogg48

    Pass rush winner
    7 sacks

  • Mrs Bighead

    Sounds about right. Nothing I hate more than guys not getting to at least the 20 when they take it out

  • Mrs Bighead

    Very good player

  • Douglas Andrews

    Yeah just researched it and he wanted to start being called by Valentino when he went to the Titans as a fresh start. It’s a cool idea

  • VaDave

    Like they say, ” it ain’t the size of the dog in the fight, it’s the amount of fight in the dog.” Hilton sure had a showcase game last night, but let’s keep it into perspective, it’s the preseason, not after 16 weeks of getting clobbered by guys 50lbs larger.

  • VaDave

    Speaking of Rogers, on the interception, he made no effort to get in on tackling that DE. He did this in a game last year as well.

  • VaDave

    I’ll have a bite of that crow..Yikes!!

  • Shannon Stephenson

    BART!!!!! WHY YOU LITTLE!!!!

  • VaDave

    Just a suggestion. Sign up for NFL Game Pass. Best $100 you can spend. You get every game for the last 7 years in three different modes on demand.

  • Reggie Cunningham

    After the 2 int.. He came around. If it wasn’t for the holding call it would’ve been 2 tds or another sack. Had to put that out there. I saw more confidence in him than Jones. Jones to me plays like he doesn’t have any confidence. I bash him a lot but I root for anyone with a Steelers jersey. With him, I just don’t see the confidence even when he makes nice throws he’s not sure of himself.

  • capehouse

    1st Half Winners

    Defense:
    WATT- As advertised. Really impressed. Showed hustle. Good technique. Great Hands, which are easy to see with those big white gloves. Tenacious! I can’t get over how impressed I am, and it has little to do with his 2 sacks.
    HEYWARD- Looked dominant. Please stay injury free.(Did something happen to Tuiit? Went out of the game before Heyward.)
    HARGRAVE- Made a couple nice plays in the backfield. We are set on the Line, but Tuitt still having trouble finishing plays. Alualu had a nice showing too.
    CBs- Quiet 1st half, but I thought all held up well, except Dixon.
    (*More impressed with Moats’ stats than I was with his actual play on the field, but I definitely owe him an apology, cause I thought he was gone for sure with that salary of his, but he showed he’s still got some fight in him.)

    Offense:
    BLOCKING- lead by David Johnson, Jesse James and DHB. I’m sure the O line was good too.
    COBI HAMILTON- Blake still sucks.

    1st Half Losers

    Defense:
    ALL MLBs- especially VW, Matakevich, and Johnson. All looked slow, took missteps. Poorly diagnosed plays. We are in some big-time trouble if Shazier goes down. Fort looked ok though. Plays fast. Definitely the 4th MLB over Johnson.
    WALTON AT NT- Yeah, sorry, PIT. This is NOT going to work. Made a nice play on 1st play of 2nd half, but 1st half he just stood there. Cam Thomas-like impact.

    Offense:
    DOBBS- Pretty bad. I thought he’d have some composure in the pocket. Nope. Gonna be another terrible preseason, but I’m sure he’ll improve. I hope.
    TOUSSAINT- Ugh. Go away. Davis wasn’t much better.

  • RickM

    I responded to you in this thread. My mistake and it won’t be repeated. Dobbs had 2 INT’s in 15 minutes against starters. That’s 8 a game. Ben, in his first regular season against starters, had less than 1 INT every 60 minutes. Somehow your math makes those performances similar. When facts are meaningless, so are debates.

    I won’t be foolish enough to respond to your trashing of Roethlisberger down the road. You’re running out of seasons. Knock yourself out.

  • capehouse

    Hamilton and Toussaint were the other set of returners.

  • capehouse

    Coty Sensabaugh was the starter opposite Cockrell. I thought he played well.

  • Alan Tman

    Funny you mention 17 TDS and 11 INTS but neglected to mention the 3 TDS and 5 picks in the playoffs, but I’m distorting the facts? That’s 20 and 16. Bye

  • Jaybird

    I think the D line is going to be incredible this year. And linebackers are going to be pretty good also. Very good front seven. Can’t wait !

  • Reggie Cunningham

    I understand that but counting 2 sack against doesn’t make him look bad. As u stated 1 wasn’t his fault. So why put that out there? I think the arm was deflected on one of his int… He looks promising and eyes were always down field.

  • Marcel Chris Chauvet

    The TD that counted was thrown behind a WIDE open Hamilton. He had to slow down and adjust to make the catch. The TD to Grimble was a terrible decision.. he was moving left, threw back to the right, and in between 2 defenders. Against better competition it would have been an INT. He did make a nice throw on time and on the money to Tucker on the sideline while rolling to his left. His best of the game I thought. You are absolutely correct. It was an awful performance by Dobbs. And he threw high A LOT. Glad someone besides me thinks so as well.

  • Joseph Shaw

    An Antwon by any other name…is still an Antwon.

  • LucasY59

    I thought Davis ran well, I also liked that he looked patient on his runs (which is a good thing if he is depth behind Bell) the OL is used to blocking for LeVeon so if Kniles can use a similar style (and has some long speed to go along with the initial burst) he could be a good compliment to the O

    Fitz had it tough, the Giants DL is good against the run and the Steelers had two #2 OL in against New Yorks #1s, add a 3rd string rookie QB (that makes them be able to focus on stopping the run, not having AB or MB out at WR also makes them be able to key on stopping the run as well)

    Its too bad Conner was not able to play in this game, but right now I see him and Davis as the 2 RBs that make the roster behind Bell (Fitz is honestly good enough to be the #3, but I think they will go with Kniles instead)

    I agree that Hawkins looked pretty bad, I didnt think any OT (other than Gilbert) looked all that great, and Finney struggled as the starting Center (but going against Harrison is tough) not a great night for the OL, but at least the guys playing at the end of the game didnt look as bad as they have in previous yrs

    Hilton played great, good to see Allen make a play at the end as well (Senquez is seriously at risk IMO) Gay played well enough at slot, too bad we didnt get to see Sutton, like Alex said Dixon struggled, and I dont even know if Sensabaugh played? (so thats not a great sign for him) the CBs look to be an improved group IMO (even if there is still plenty of room to improve more)

    the ILBs seemed to play well, Fort and Johnson stood out to me, but VW and Red were good as well, the OLBs played really well, good to see Watt and Moats do what they did, I think Adams is stuck going to the PS (but I might still try and re-work Moats’ contract since he is fairly expensive for a guy that wont be on the field much when the regular season starts)

    and the Steelers actually won and scored a few TDs!!! good way to start the preseason for sure!

  • LucasY59

    Alualu looked good also, I think they have 4 really good guys, and Walton as the 5th is quality depth as well

  • LucasY59

    during the preseason they are going to try and return most of them (even if they dont have the greatest chance to get to the 20) just so they have the return reps

    Davis took one out from pretty deep that I am almost positive he wouldve kneeled in a regular game

    also the blocking is still just as much of an issue as it has been in previous yrs (so its not all the returners fault)

  • LucasY59

    I actually thought the opposite with Finney, but thought not giving him a positive or negative grade was ok, he was going against a really good DT (Harrison) but I thought he and Hubbard looked like 2nd teamers playing with the 1s (Touissaint had a hard time running early in the game, but part of that is the lack of the passing threat with Ben and Brown not playing)

  • Gerald Hawkins badly wiffed on the plays I watched him specifically, leading to sacks, losses, or no-gainers. I hadn’t realized who he was–only that #65 was playing abysmally. I was bummed when I checked the roster and learned it was he who specialized in “lookout” blocks.

  • Jaybird

    Yeah , I should have mentioned the D line reserves. Good showing all around.

  • danrunner

    Dobbs: loser. Two horriffic ints. One td.meh. He’ll get better, but i disagree with those who said he looked good

  • LucasY59

    its also the preseason where they want to see the guys return, so they dont really encourage the players to take a TB as much in these games, in the regular season it would be a much bigger issue (also it seemed like Davis was at least 5 yds deep in the endzone, but I only saw it once so im not really sure) a stat tracker (tracking it similarly to how you described) would be interesting to see, kinda like net yds on punts

  • LucasY59

    It wasnt all Fitz’s fault (he wasnt really playing with the 1st team offense (no Ben, Pounce, AV, Brown or Bryant) and was mostly going against the Giants 1st team DL (which is pretty good at stopping the run)

  • LucasY59

    wanted to forget how bad Antwon was…changing the name doesnt really change much though (terrible throw when he got is INT, and then gives up the plays to Hamilton = same old Blake)

  • LucasY59

    easier to run against guys that wont likely be on a NFL roster in a month, but agree he ran well and is likely going to the Steelers PS this season

  • LucasY59

    they would still keep him so that he can play the 2nd half of the panthers game, he is what he is supposed to be the 4th QB (on a team where there is no chance of unseating the top 3)

  • LucasY59

    loser = Me, I always have to hunt for the Steelers games (other than the national games, which there are fortunately quite a few of)

    winner = Me, I dont live in NJ (hehe, JK)

  • LucasY59

    I was annoyed, but not surprised

    they know the 2nd half of preseason games are pretty terrible to watch (for anyone other than hardcore fans that want to watch the 4th stringers) so they only show the 1st half of the preseason games (and then switch around to whatever is most interesting kinnda like the redzone channel)

  • LucasY59

    I kinda thought the same thing, never saw him (which is good and bad) good he didnt give up plays that make you know he is out there, bad that his play was so unnoticable that I wasnt even sure he played

  • LucasY59

    he was beating Blake, so thats not really saying much, but he did make it harder to cut him, I still think he should be trade bait (even if all they get is a 7th for him) there is a good chance he makes a roster this yr (but I dont think its with the Steelers)

  • StolenUpVotes

    My man Hilton making plays

  • AustinTxStillerFan

    I don’t get putting Tucker on the list.. He was wide open twice and the QB put it where he had no chance. As for his special teams value, go look at Giant’s punt returns, and keep your eyes peeled for #16. You’ll see him a lot. Go back and look at the Giant’s return with about 6:39-6:59 left in the 4th. Tucker keeps returner in check. 57 and 39 get the credit, but 16 forced the returner to dance around and get tackled. Finally, go look at some of his blocking as a wide receiver. You’ll see a a least one where he knocks the defend off his feet.

  • Xclewsive

    Cannan Severin was horrible

  • Zarbor

    He’s a backup at best. Still like him as a backup.

  • Zarbor

    Hey, that’s my line…Well used I might say. I like D.Will over Croissant and Watson.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    I’m still in east Rutherford. Leaving to go home shortly. Will have to review the DVR when I get home tomorrow.

  • Aj Gentile

    How did Shaheen do in his game?

  • Jim Foles

    I would agree… but his pocket was not really there all night..

  • Jim Foles

    65 and 73 let them right by 4 times and killed Dobbs

  • Jim Foles

    Correct.. he never looked deer in headlights either like good ole LJ

  • Alan Tman

    I do believe that he will benefit the most from the new virtual reality equipment too.

  • Douglas Andrews

    yep the INT was good Blake but the TD to Hamilton was the all too consistent awful Blake. We as Steeler fans are familiar with the bad Blake

  • AustinTxStillerFan

    On Dobbs.

    Obviously, BAD start. Hit 2 INT’s were rough and I will not make excuses for them. Here’s the thing:

    When we drafted Landry Jones and he made the roster his first two seasons, even into season 3 I cried myself to sleep. NOTHING he did in preseason 1 or 2 gave me any hopes that he would ever be a credible backup and we went for what felt like 20 quarters without ever putting the ball in the end zone. At this point I feel like he could win us a game or two with Ben out. In fact, he has. I’m actually fairly happy with him as the backup. He’s not Charlie Batch, but he’ll do.

    With Dobbs, I have hope after his first game and I won’t cry myself to sleep when he makes the 53. He looked like crap to start, but got better and more productive as the game went on. Most importantly, I can point to positive things he did in his first preseason game as a rookie that I’d be hard pressed to see in Landry’s game in the 4th game of preseason 2.

    On Dobbs vs. Ben. I don’t plan on comparing Ben to Dobbs for a long while, but I hope Dobbs career in Pittsburgh makes for a plausible comparison one day. The point I think people are making in comparing the two is that all QB’s, even franchise ones, have bad days. To judge a QB in one game is grossly unfair. Was Dobbs “good”? On a few plays, yes. Mostly, no. I think he’ll get better. If you want some hope, go back and watch Landry’s first preseason game, then compare him to that standard. He moved the football, he made some plays. We won. Landry can’t say that. I think Dobbs will end up better than Landry. Dobbs in game 1 Landry in year 5. IMO….

  • Matt Manzo

    I agree. Not about comparing him to Ben, but Dobbs showed some hope. Even if he’s just a career back up, he could help with the transition from Ben.

  • NinjaMountie

    I’m not going to jump to conclusions about Dobbs based on this game. However, there really weren’t any positives to take away from it. Do I think he’ll get better? Absolutely. However again, I don’t have any reason to believe he will ever be a starter let alone have a career comparable to Ben. I didn’t see it in him coming out of the draft. I think he’s a career backup and there isn’t a thing wrong with that.

  • Steve Johnson

    Agreed. I would prefer they keep Allen, but this kid is making it quite difficult to not keep him.

  • Steve Johnson

    I like the kids effort, if nothing more, he probably already has a slot on the P.S.

  • Steve Johnson

    Didn’t know that. I guess that explains why Golson can’t stay healthy.

  • Michel Smiffi

    Well, the Steelers will have to compare the info they have if they want to mark him as the #2 guy. Obviously, Landry has been here much longer, and he had a lot of weak moments himself.
    But he’s also shown he can win (regular season) games.
    As much as I can’t write him off after one preseason game, you can’t hail him after just one training camp.

  • Michel Smiffi

    It sure wasn’t all his fault. The line blocked terribly. But he seemed completely unable to find the correct holes, and even the times he found them, he had the burst and acceleration of an aircraft carrier.

  • Rob H

    The reason Hamilton makes “a lot” of combative catches is because he has to, due to the fact that he consistently fails to get any separation. I just can’t understand some people’s fascination with this guy, especially after watching him in real games last year, and then reading all the camp reports heading into this game.
    Don’t get me wrong, the guy will make some plays here and there, is a good blocker, and will probably find another roster or practice squad to stick on, but it seems like a lot of people are losing all perspective because of two catches against Antwon Blake, and I just can’t figure out why.

  • Nick Sabatella

    I thought Canaan Severin would for sure be on the losers list

  • Petherson Silveira

    Yeah. But, don´t forget that the guys who are blocking for him, won´t be in a NFL roster in a month.

  • LucasY59

    yeah but I am happy with our camp body type guys this yr, Munch has them playing well, so even if we are comparing apples to apples (3rd string to 3rd string) I think the Steelers 3rd OL was better than the Giants
    Defensive players they had in