Steelers Vs Bears Winners/Losers


*fires self into the sun*

WINNERS

Javon Hargrave: Hargrave was basically the only defender to consistently make a positive impact today. Even when doubled or triple-teamed, he still found ways to get pressure and racked up his second sack of the season. He’s a star in my eyes and soon enough, will be recognized as such around the league.

Antonio Brown: Ditto Brown for the offense. He was spectacular, finishing the day with 10 catches, 110 yards, and a touchdown. Pittsburgh found him the ball in the red zone, something they hadn’t done the first two weeks.

JJ Wilcox: I know Wilcox missed a bouncing fumble but he recorded an interception, the first by a Steelers’ safety this season. That’s the type of impact play the strong safety position needs. So that was a much needed addition.


Vance McDonald: For his heroic effort at the end of the half, tracking down Marcus Cooper and saved a touchdown at the end of the half. Just a terrific play.

LOSERS

Ben Roethlisberger: Roethlisberger had his moments, but again, his penchant for throwing deep didn’t pay off today. There were times he threw into double-coverage, a failed 3rd and 6 in the fourth quarter stands out in my mind the most, and he didn’t come through clutch late. Completed fewer than 57% of his passes and averaged just six yards per attempt.

Chris Hubbard: Rough day for Mother Hubbard, who we spent much of last week praising. Penalty that negated a strong Le’Veon Bell run and gave up a sack in the second half.

Eli Rogers: Terrible muffed punt that set up a Bears’ score. Not in good position to get square and under the football. He was clean the rest of the game but ball security is the number one, and frankly, really only concern on punt returns. And Rogers failed.

Missed Tackles: I don’t even know where to start with this one. It can’t fall on one guy and pretty much anyone wearing a Steelers’ uniform was to blame. Steelers missed five tackles last week; on certain plays this week, they probably missed as many. Horrendous.

The whole run defense was terri-bad, on a day where Mike Glennon didn’t push the ball more than five yards down the field. Mike Mitchell, Artie Burns did the defense no favors in the second level. Appalling.

Coaching Staff: Again, have to put it on everyone. A Mike Tomlin team loses to an inferior opponent on the road. Todd Haley’s offense underwhelms again. Keith Butler’s defensive front was questionable, which we’ll get into during the week. Also, no James Harrison? Special teams had a blocked kick. I could go on and on. I’m sure you’ll carry the baton in the comments.

About the Author

Alex Kozora
Full-time blogger from mom's basement. Marrying tape and statistics. Chidi Iwuoma is my favorite Steeler of all-time.
  • Reader783

    Alex said it, but I want to pound it home.

    Biggest loser of all: Mike Tomlin. I’ll admit I’ve defended him year after year, but until he proves the fans wrong that he can’t get this team inspired to win games on the road against TERRIBLE opponents, I can’t defend him anymore. It is a disgrace. This is the difference between the 3 seed and the 1 seed. Being home or away v. New England in the AFC Championship Game. It is not acceptable anymore. And I’m not gonna listen to the “Process is the process” excuse anymore. Figure it out Mike. Now.

  • kdubs412

    Overreacting is bad. That said, I’m extremely concerned that we’ve wasted the end of our window with Ben with an inexperienced D coordinator who doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing.

  • The Chin

    how many times does it take Chick getting washed out by a TE before you put Harrison in the game?

  • cencalsteeler

    AV is a winner for honoring the flag.

  • Kick

    Cowards hide in locker rooms. I am not surprised they lost.

  • Rocksolid20

    Wrong Reader , biggest loser today , was Steeler Nation .

  • Rocksolid20

    Here Here !!!

  • Steelers12

    Too bad he been horrible this season after signing long term contract

  • Michael Mosgrove

    SEAN DAVIS LOSER.
    lost on multiple plays. there is zero way he is not on the loser list. personally responsible for so many big chunk plays.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    JV

  • kdubs412

    I think Wilcox is gonna take his spot before the end of the season

  • Michael Mosgrove

    again i repeat davis is not nfl ready.

  • Steve Ayers

    Fire everyone. Put back Antonio Brown on Punts.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    butler> haley

  • Dobre_Shunka

    Can’t argue with anything here except I did notice Harrison in on at least one play. Putrid

  • Chris92021

    Winners:
    Not the Steelers

    Losers:
    Steelers

    In all seriousness, let’s not be too harsh on Hubbard. He is a backup for a reason. I also would put Chickillo on the losers’ list with his missed tackles and lack of strength on the edge on running plays. I don’t care he got a sack. His sack is akin to hitting a solo home run while down by 10 runs. Why Harrison wasn’t out there is a mystery to me.

    Keith Butler, Todd Haley, and Danny Smith…I never thought any of those men were good enough to coach this team and honestly, some changes need to be made. I hope Butler is demoted soon.

    Tomlin BTW is now 5-6 all time in week 3. He is 3-6 all time in week 4, with a 0-3 record on the road in week 4. Baltimore is going to kill this sorry defense and the offense is probably only going to put up 10 points total. Brace yourselves for another bad game by this Steeler bunch.

  • Paddy

    When I heard the would stay in the locker room I KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN

  • afrazier9

    Losers list

    Steelers tackling

    Hubbard

    Running game

    Coaching (not playing Harrison)

    Oh yeah did I say defense

  • Taylor Williams

    I like Chick, but he’s a pass rusher. Harrison needs to play. Connor also needed to play. There’s no reason deebo wasn’t here on run downs

  • Phil Brenneman II

    Came in here just to make sure you mentioned Mitchell on the losers list. I am satisfied lol. Time to start giving Mitchell snaps to Wilcox or something.

    I think Shazier deserves specific mention as well. Bad angles and missed tackles are pretty consistent from him.

  • Reader783

    I can not fathom how Harrison gets 0 reps. Less than a year ago he won us the KC game in the playoffs, now he is platooned behind Chickillo?

  • HiVul

    100% not surprised. Too many years of the same old song and dance

  • Andy Wright

    These coaches are just pathetic, someone needs to be fired for this one. Haley is tops on my list, his offensive is anemic. Butler is nearly as clueless, but has the excuse of having mostly mediocre talent other than a few players.

  • Taylor Williams

    Oh please. Our so called elite QB looked mediocre these passed 3 games. Can’t expect our D to hold teams under 20 points in an offensive league. It’s not 2006 anymore

  • Tobi Ge

    i understand that the missed tackles are bad.. and therefore they deserve to be on the losers side! but if i would have said to you that the defense holds a team to 17 points at their stadium.. wouldn’t everybody agree that THIS offense has to win it?

  • NinjaMountie

    All LOSER but AB.

  • Richard

    Is the window over for Ben?
    He has looked really average all season is he on a downhill trajectory?
    Discuss

  • Scott Thomas

    1. Steelers will be fine. 2. Staying in the locker room had absolutely no impact on the result of the game. Have a great Sunday night.

  • DSG

    Again the offense can’t carry this team. The big difference between this week and the previous 2 games is the defense didnt carry them. Like i said, if you think this offense can avg 30 pts per game, you’re drunk. Ben makes poor decision that stall drives. Whats the excuse this week? There is so much talent at wr, rb and dont say we were missing 2 ol when the bears were playing with a makeshift ol and ran for what 200 yds?

  • ayub

    Decision making is not good. Will not take what the defense gives him which costs the team when it’s close.

  • Chris92021

    I now hate Todd Haley more than I ever hated Bruce Arians. At least Arians didn’t have a talented offensive line to work with. Haley makes every defense look like the Steel Curtain. The fact that the offense looked sharp when we go to the no-huddle is more than troubling.

  • Tobi Ge

    i started to think i am the only one wo see it that way!

  • Jaybird

    Winner : Steeler fans – you guys are the best. Take pride in that and we’ll get the Ravens next week . Hang in there everybody.

  • psteelers

    Big Ben has been coming up short forcing the ball into double and triple coverage. Defense gave the offense plenty opportunities to win this game. Shazier needs to play with more control. Rough lost see ya in Batimore next week. On to the next one.

  • DSG

    J wobble was a stud

  • Dorian James

    Same here, I’m tired of defending him, I’ve never seen anything like this where it’s almost a guaranteed loss when it’s a sub 500 or 0 win team. I really like Tomlin as a coach but these losses are completely inexcusable, obviously he’s not the only one to blame Ben is a terrible Road quarterback one of the worst I’ve ever seen and Todd Haley is the most predictable play-caller in the history of this sport

  • ayub

    I agree. This team is stacked. Not scoring more than 24 points and allowing the Bears to dominate the run to win the game is a failure.

  • StillersInThe6

    Why are we running every cot damn play from the shotgun!?!? I’m so beyond frustrated with this play call. They don’t even try to establish the run at all. I don’t remember Bell having close to the % of runs from the shotgun in previous years. It’s not F-ing working, would be nice to make some adjustments.

    Won’t even get into the missed tackles by the defense. Disgusting game. This team is a pretender right now.

  • Michael James

    Losers: Basically everyone, but several stand out.
    Chickillo, Burns, Mitchell: Horrible tackling and pathetic against the run.
    Coaching staff: Horrible coaching and not pulling Chickillo and putting Harrison in is not excusable
    Ben: Disgusting. He had an easy first down (on thir down throws) several times and went with the deep ball every time, which failed. I simply hate that, just take the first down, man.
    Referees: Let’s be clear, the Steelers have to blame themselves, but the referees still were absolutely horrible all game long.

  • DAWAARE

    After first 3 game,
    I really start to question
    ben’s decision making at this point.

    Getting sacked too many times and crashing motorbike
    really messed ben up

  • JohnB

    I really struggle with how this offense operates. We’re constantly going empty backset in short yardage, today was first and goal on the one and then..my other big beef which he kind of did on the same play was throw it into the smallest window when you have other guys not covered as much to make the play. I don’t know if Haley is to blame or Ben but they seriously need to rethink their short yardage situations. you got no tackles but the interior is still strong! Who is Rosie Nix?

  • hdogg48

    With the weapons Rothelsberger has he needs to make
    more plays.

    Today with the Special Teams problems, and the Ds problem with
    the run, he should have won that game after that fumble
    recovery.

    He threw the ball too hard to Bell on the swing pass
    and he couldn’t thread the needle to James or JuJu
    and they settled for a FG.

    An elite QB would have won that game….Brady did today.

  • Jason

    the Chiefs are going to demolish this team so bad, good lord they do what Chicago just did only they do it well

  • Reader783

    The most frustrating thing is when we have a largely successful drive doing X. Then we never do X again for the rest of the game. We went right down the field for a TD doing under routes, crossing routes and slants. After that we decided: Bomb, draw for 2 yards, pass incomplete on a seem or a bomb.

  • Jason

    1,000 likes for this. Where s 92. Chick is was getting dominated. Makes no sense

  • Chris92021

    This is why Big Ben is not on the level of Brady, Rodgers, and Brees. Those guys might only have 1-2 bad games a season. Big Ben will have like 4-5 of them. He is still good though.

  • T R

    Tomlin can coaches losers.. this has got to be easiest game for them to game plan for.. STOP THEY DAMN RUN. and they could not do it.. Glennon at QB and no damn WRs. Glennon has replace Tom Brady as the owner of the Steelers with the Rooney.. his is 3-0 vs Steelers.. owns them..

  • Jaybird

    Im President of the Ben fan club, but something looks wrong with his delivery. I’m starting to worry. He’s not even throwing spirals. Lots of high throws.

  • SnoopDogg123

    Same old Tomlin era Steelers. Lose on the road to an inferior opponent. And if Keith Butler can’t figure out how to game plan against a high school offense with a hurt RB then he should go.

  • gdeuce

    it was a combination of awful run defense and total offence

  • Rusted Out

    A sickeningly typical Steeler’s loss.

  • StillersInThe6

    It reminds me of Chip Kelley’s Eagles offense – it didn’t work then and won’t now. WTF are they doing? I think they rather seem like geniuses/think outside the box then just keeping it simple and running the best RB in the NFL down the other teams throat. Ugh.

  • Jason

    Cowards call people cowards behind a keyboard.

  • Paddy

    I think their line is vastly overrated.

  • DSG

    I’ve been saying that for while. Not to much decline but more was never that great imo. If we had our old defenses when we were good, we win this game 20-10. Imo ben has never been the type of qb that can carry a team and score bunches of points despite the tremendous talent he is surrounded by.

  • Dorian James

    Exactly, and what about the underused head splitting fullback that we have. So many players are having their talents wasted on this team

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    His decision making is killing drives. Then that’s when Haley comes in for the double tap. He is not playing like a hof qb.

  • Steel Your Face

    This is when you REALLY get pissed off at Tomlin. Losing to Mike F-ing Glennon twice in 3 seasons is unacceptable. Great coaches do not repeatedly lose to bad teams.

  • ayub

    As is Jay freaking Cutler. 0-3 against him.

  • Mrs Bighead

    “Hubbard Most Complete Tackle I’ve Seen”

    LOL

  • Reader783

    Hey man it’s tough to figure out the “run off left tackle 9 straight times” offense the Bears were running today.

  • Michael Noah

    Wilcox and Mitchell are trash. Wilcox took the worst angle I’ve seen this season on Cohen’s run in OT and Mitchell only knows how to arm tackle. We’re toast once we face a team that has a real passing game.

  • Jaybird

    Maybe this team is not stacked. No TEs , Rogers might be very overrated, maybe Ben and Bell have lost a little, and the O line looks terrible. Maybe we overestimated them .

  • 6 ring circus

    Loser, J. HARRISON. so designated by Steeler coaches. He shoulda got 70% of the snaps after the 1st qtr.

  • John Noh

    Complete garbage, yes.

  • Phil Brenneman II

    Not that I disagree but just to throw them one bone we are missing Tuitt who is a complete disruptor up front and Watt has been a nice spark for us. Not excusing them but that is worth considering at least.

  • Taylor Williams

    Ben looks like Landry Jones with his decision making. This is what Ben always does though. He’ll look horrible one week then come back and score 4-5 TDs, then get hurt the next game.

  • DSG

    Exactly elite qb make players around them better but he’s got so much talent around him. Too many excuses

  • kdubs412

    I can expect them to not give up 75 yards on four running plays in overtime when the opposing teams quarterback is basically a cactus. I can expect them to get a backup linebacker who’s getting murdered on runs (chickillo) out of the game when you have a better option wasting away on the bench (harrison). I can expect them to put somebody on the running back on pass plays when literally every pass is a checkdown going for 7-9 yards. The talent is there on this defense, but the strategy and execution are both lacking which falls squarely on the shoulders of the coaches. The offense wasn’t good either, but nothing Butler has done throughout his tenure leads me to have any faith in him.

  • StillersInThe6

    He wasn’t his best today, but where is the criticism on the WRs???? Where is the separation at all?? Every throw to Tavis he’s got a CB on his hip. Ditto AB but he is outstanding and makes grabs anyway. Zero separation for Ben today stuck out to me.

  • Dorian James

    True but they don’t play offense LOL

  • JohnB

    yeah otherwise Nix is just eating a roster spot. you got a good player, USE him. your line has been bad at creating holes, how can you ail that? one option is a FB! haha but I guess that takes Rodgers, James or SS out the game and we cant have that.

  • Chris92021

    On paper, it looks like we should average more than 30 a game. However, that is not how football is played. I think this is more an average offense that gets overhyped because of fantasy football.

  • Darth Blount 47

    I try to refrain from too much hyperbole, as I don’t think it is productive. But………….

    What in the ever-loving $%*& just happened today?!

    Did we really lose to the Chicago Bears who completed, get this, 1 PASS… 1 single F****** pass to a WR, ALL GAME. That’s it. I mean…. I have NEVER in my whole flippin’ life seen that. Never. NEVER.

    How in the world did that just happen?! 1 … 1 Pass?!!

    I tried to remain calm throughout the debacle, as I truly thought at some point sanity would prevail and we’d decide that we’d had enough fun toying with the little cubbies and step on their necks, but NOOOO.

    Is it too late to change my answer on the Friday 5 Questions?! THIS. THIS WAS THE MOST INEXCUSABLE LOSS OF THE TOMLIN ERA. For when a QB can beat you by completing 1 pass to his WR’s and have the lead ALL GAME. Well…………………………………………………………………

    Winners? : HA!
    Losers? : How much time you got?!

  • NCSteel

    You know, I don’t like to comment on the games this early
    because the results need to sink in first sans emotion.

    However… I am not feeling the least bit emotional when I say this offense is full of stars yet I have never felt like it has lived up to it’s potential, ever. You never have the feeling the offense can score at will. Oh it can move the ball with the best of ’em but it does not feel like the Packers or Patriots where you just know if they need to score, they will. Our skill players are fantasy football champions for sure, they can rack up the points but can they will themselves to score when they need it ?
    I’d say todays results answer that honestly.

  • Taylor Williams

    It’s Ben and his gunslinger mentality

  • JohnB

    I’d put Shazier on the winners list but he was actually just playing football the way it should’ve been played this afternoon.

  • Jaybird

    An elite number two WR /number one RB should have caught that swing pass that clanged off both hands. Right???

  • Kevin Artis

    Nope. biggest loser today, the entire Defense.

  • JohnB

    I cant complain about that cause I love it so…but just mix it up…”you cant gunsling on the 1, man”

  • Big White

    Losers = Rooneys

  • 2winz

    I thought this team had a new urgency beore this game.. I was dead wrong! You said it.. this loss is the worst and absolutely inexcusable

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    Well, at least the ravens got destroyed today, should be a fiercly competitive game next week.

  • RangerBrigade

    Great point – I feel the same way, the offense always has one or two games during the year where they show their potential, but pretty much just answer the mail or as today 3-4 games where they completely underwhelm.

  • T R

    Harrison played 2 or 3 snaps in coverage..

  • Sdale

    Yeah, I saw him in on a play…and he dropped into a zone on coverage 🙂

  • Jaybird

    Lots of missed tackles and over running plays also.

  • NinjaMountie

    Losers: Our new college football spread offense

  • Taylor Williams

    It’s starting to become predictable though. Teams are keeping the safeties deep exactly when Ben drops back.

  • JohnB

    whats crazy is it wasn’t even Glennon who killed us. they had like one wideout with a catch. I don’t know where the run D was today but it was prob still in Pitt.

  • hdogg48

    Disagree…no touch…look how far that ball bounced.

    I am peeved at Bell for his hold out, but he has
    good hands and seldom makes drops.

    He is the best RB receiver in the league for a reason.
    That was an awful pass.

  • Kevin Artis

    You know, I have been giving him some slack since he was essentially rebuilding and changing the model of our defense, but after today, I’m losing faith in him.

  • Agustin-ARG

    Defense has done a lot of plays…int´s sacks fumbles…but they played against a rookie QB, a backup and Glennon. I´m concerned

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    Ben wasn’t exactly throwing anyone open either. He high all day and had a alot of underthrows.

  • John Mikita

    maybe they should of stayed in the locker room after the anthem

  • JohnB

    Yeah I remember him saying something like golf made him more patient. Well he needs to play more golf in the offseason.

  • T R

    exactly.. hell i am at the point where they should just stack the damn box. and let Glennon kill them if hd could

  • Reader783

    Offense scored 17 points
    Defense allowed 200+ rush yards and 23 points
    Special teams had a blocked kick (6 pt swing), muffed punt (leads to TD).

    All three facets of the game failed. The team NEVER look inspired and we lose yet another road game to a team that will finish 4-12. Defense, offense, ST blame whoever. Mike Tomlin is the head coach and Mike Tomlin lost another game to a bottom-feeder NFL team. I’ll blame the entire coaching staff too if I need to, but it’s starting with Coach T.

  • Phil Brenneman II

    True enough but we did get ran on pretty bad.

  • JohnB

    *sigh*…yeah…

  • Kevin Artis

    Bud dupree is not Lawrence Taylor out there either. He got taken out by the TE with little effort.

    Draft two more OLBs next draft. We’ll get it right eventually.

  • T R

    all i know is the Ravens will win next week if Ben can throw no better then he throwing..

  • SnoopDogg123

    It must be. When Mike Glennon is 2-0 against your Team, then it’s time to make changes. This Team has a lot of talent and it’s not being coached properly.

  • hdogg48

    And he overthrew Bryant on the first pass
    who had a good 2 steps on the defender.

  • JohnB

    that’s what I yelled at the TV!! hahahaha…stack the box, with mtm on the back… very least you’d get the sack.

  • Chris92021

    Let’s face facts y’all.

    1. This offense is not very good. The playcaller is nothing special (he isn’t McDaniels or Sean Payton), the QB is average on the road, and outside of Antonio Brown, it is real hit or miss with everyone else. Most of us think that the offense is good because the distortion between real football and fantasy football, that “ooh, Bell, Brown, and Bryant are must-starts this week!” talk. I’ve seen it for years with the Cowboys too (which is why so many people thought Romo was such a great QB because he put up excellent numbers). If you think this offense can put up 30 a game, you are deluding yourself. This offense is average at best and will probably have difficulty averaging 23-25 points a game.

    2. The special teams is awful. Eli Rogers is nothing special. He isn’t especially fast and he does not have the best hands. I can’t wait until JuJu Smith Schuster takes over as the slot receiver. Notice that Rogers got hardly any targets in the second half? He can’t even get open against a sorry Bears secondary.

    3. Keith Butler is flat out overmatched. We need to demote him ASAP. I don’t care if Tomlin takes over as the defensive signal caller. The Bears offense is devoid of talent but this defense made them look like the 1972 Dolphins out there.

    4. Mike Tomlin….love that guy but I am getting sick and tired of defending him whenever stuff like this happens. His guys looked unprepared and unfocused again. Why does this happen to the Steelers all the time??

    I can handle losing but I will not tolerate this dumpster fire of unpreparedness. It needs to end now if this team has any aspirations of going back to the Super Bowl, which looks like a pipe dream.

  • JohnB

    Dick Lebeau would not have let that slide.

  • hdogg48

    Ben looks nothing like a top 5 or even an elite
    QB this season.

  • Sdale

    So far this season, I think that’s 100% accurate. All of them except Brown are greatly overrated until they prove otherwise. Who cares what the talking heads on Fox/NBC say they are.

  • Kevin Artis

    Ben is done. Its time for the Joshua Dobbs experiment next year.

  • lyke skywalker

    He has slowed down a bit. A battered decorated veteran. I’ve been wondering for a while how our offense would look like with a younger, faster and more energetic QB.

  • NCSteel

    As for those quick to bash Coach Tomlin, you know he’s still one of the best there is.
    I only see one or maybe two better coaches in this league period.
    The rest are chasing him.

    I will objectively say however that his track record against inferior opponents speaks for itself.

    I was nervous about this game.
    It smelled like a game his teams usually lose.

    I don’t bet but if I did, I would not have wanted anything to do with this game.

    He has got to find a way to beat the teams that he’s supposed to handle resoundingly and without fail.

    Still love him though. Just do better with this aspect of your game Sir.

  • Sdale

    I like Shazier, but it seems like he’s got to get juked out of his shorts a couple times and give up big plays before he settles down and starts making plays. He was good in the 2nd half.

  • StillersInThe6

    Got both hands on it, would have liked to see better effort (you see other WRs sprawl out/dive for those all the time). Definitely wasn’t a perfect deep throw, but still need better effort there.

  • Kevin Artis

    This will be a different team next year……Ben, Bell and Bryant will all be gone.

  • Reader783

    Until today I would agree with you. But now, I’m leaning to him riding the coat tails of an amazingly talented team. Winning games against bad teams is part of his job description. Losing games like this makes it much harder to win playoff games (on the road, without a bye)

  • The Chin

    In all fairness, Danny Smith needs to be noted under the loser column with the other phases. Contributed as much or more to the choke today.

  • Jaybird

    We have no TEs and Rogers and JUJU aren’t doing a whole lot. No one gets any separation, no one is open over the middle. Maybe we change things up – sit Rogers or JUJU and play Hunter. I know we’ll have to have AB in for punts if we sit Rogers , but maybe we need a change or something.

  • ryan72384

    Completely agree. The talent on paper is insane. Really you can go back the last 6 or 7 years and this team has been loaded on offense with an elite QB. I really think it starts with Ben. Love the guy but he is just so mediocre sometimes. When he is on I don’t think there is another QB in the game better. But it’s just not there consistently. Never has been. Like you said. I never feel like they can just score at will. Todd Haley should also be gone. Can’t stand the guy as an OC. I think he is terrible. He’s just as much to blame as Ben

  • Jaybird

    Bryant won’t – he’s still under contract

  • pittfan

    well a win is a win, till it isnt.

  • John A Stewart

    Ben is a very good jock and not a student of the game.

  • Quan Hurst

    🙏🙏🙏

  • Kevin Artis

    I made that comment on another message board. I would at least sit Ju Ju. He bring nothing Rogers doesn’t. At least he has a year under his belt playing the slot. Bring up Hunter because Bryant is just about subpar in my book.

  • Shane Mitchell

    This is what happens when we draft players based on their God Damn arm lengths and not on playing football, bunch of pansies that cant tackle, or take on blocks, get hell off the field. How many runs do they have to make at Artie Burns in a row to get his puss ass off the field and put Will Gay in at outside CB? No common sense.

  • StillersInThe6

    Honestly the missed tackles are just inexcusable to me. The awful offense doesn’t excuse them. The Bears basically told everyone they were going to run all game, and we couldn’t stop them. It was embarrassing.

  • Quan Hurst

    BRUUUUUUUH I BEEN TELLIN YALL BB IS A BUM ON THE ROAD STOP BLAMING THE COACHING ALOT OF OUR OFFENSIVE WOES ARE DUE TO BB DOING TOO MUCH I PRAY HE RETIRES AFTER THIS YEAR

  • Kevin Artis

    Stevie Wonder could see this coming.

  • The Chin

    How about “Ima need 15” with the drop in wide open space? Seems that to be paid as a WR2 also, that would include making uncontested catches in wide open grass. Get that weak garbage out of here.

  • RangerBrigade

    My gut feeling is this (1) The offense will continue to underwhelm – it is also an offense that always seems to take an eternity to get moving. (2) This defense still has big problems against teams that run stretch zone (Ravens can do some of that too). And now point (3) Ben….

    Ben is no longer an elite QB – the “he’s got it” mojo he had for years when he was a gunslinger who could just make plays out of nothing and where you had supreme confidence he could bring a team back is gone. Technically he is a better and smarter QB than earlier in his career, but he is so far behind the curve compared to Brady and Rodgers that you never confidently say “Ben will make the right decision” rather you say “I hope he makes the right decision.” There are things with Ben that are still maddeningly inconsistent – having to have guys college open, not really being able to hit timing routes in the middle of the field. I don’t think Ben can lead a team to a championship anymore.

  • Kevin Artis

    They might cut him or trade him like they did Wheaton and Cockrell.

  • AndreH

    Today, the whole damn team are loser. No one played inspired football today.

  • John M.

    I thought they did…..

  • The Chin

    Those plays don’t get to the edge with JH on the field

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    Bell is a #2 reciever, he should have caught that.

  • Rene Gonzalez

    At least Ben directly admitted he played badly and placed the blame on himself. Tomlin basically avoided any true speech about the loss by going on and on talking about politics when he said he hated being dragged into it in the first place.

  • Shane Mitchell

    In cover-2 the outside CBs have outside run responsibility, playing a puss at outside CB in cover-2 is just asking to get your ass kicked all day on those running plays.

    Ignorant coaches, for putting a guy there that cant tackle and running it against a team that isnt a threat passing the ball whatsoever, they have no commonsense.

    The Bears obviously saw the Miami game from last season and copied their game plan.

  • Taylor Williams

    We’ve games lost worse than this. That cowboys game last year. Bucs game last year.

  • The Dumpmaster

    Relax.
    Baltimore got blown out today.
    If Steelers play like this next week and Ravens play like they did, Pittsburgh gets a triple-digit win.

  • Kevin Artis

    Haven’t seen the 4-5 TD Ben in a long time.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    28th in the nfl on third down before kickoff…

  • Tobi Ge

    this is on of my biggest problems with steeler nation.. so many people hear the ‘experts’ talk about how crazy good this offense can be, and then when we lose, all the articles are about the defensive problems.. in this team it should not be of importance how many tackles these guys miss when they hold the team to 17 points!

  • Kevin Artis

    What you think the Patriots are going to do?

  • Quan Hurst

    SAY WHAT YOU WANT I THINK WE NEED TO BRING LAW DOG BACK AND LADARIUS GREEN

  • Rod Hedrick

    1 The Decision to stay in the locker room
    2 Chick couldn’t set the edge
    3 couldn’t tackle
    4 Special teams
    5 no blocking
    6 Horrible play calls
    7 Ben on the road
    8 Trap game
    9 Bears Oline handled the D

  • mhurk

    It could be worse, Bell could have sign that long term contract.

  • Kick

    They probably felt like a bunch of cowards hiding in the locker room during the national anthem.

  • Could have used Tuitt today. To all those guys saying, “it’s the Bears, sit him because we need him for next week.”

    Well we needed him today…

  • 2winz

    thats why I place Ben at # 4 or 5 qb in the league. ppl have said they cant see brees or rodgers above Ben on here and it baffles me! obviously there isnt any bias there with those steelers fans.. *eye roll* theres just too much talent to only be scoring 17 pts against an inferior team. Brady would score 30 points easily in most game with this talent. The O-line cant be an excuse for ppl who used to say “If Ben had the O-line Brady had..” we have an o-line, we have a elite rb, a good back up rb, we have an elite wr and a #2 most teams would die for! more talent at wr than any other team yet terrible results, even if steelers win.

  • Rene Gonzalez

    10 of the 17 points scored by the offense were basically thanks to the defense, and 10 of the bears’ points where basically thanks to the steelers’ special teams, so even if the rushing yards seem ugly I’m still blaming the offense waay more than the defense. Especially when the offense is the supposedly strong unit on the team.

  • The Dumpmaster

    Yeah, that first play could have killed bears’ hopes before they even sniffed the ball on offense.

  • JT

    I give you a lot of credit here Darth. You put on a spectacular rant here without firing anyone, or using the words unfocused or unprepared. Well done sir.

  • Chris92021

    The last time the Steelers won in that building was in 2012. The last time that Big Ben won in that building was in 2010 and he had a great defense behind them. This defense is below average because of the coaching staff. We are going to lose. The only question is will it be a Justin Tucker field goal at the gun or Big Ben throwing 3 interceptions against the Ravens that lead to a convincing win for Baltimore.

  • Kevin Artis

    After Ben retires next year, Haley might be gone as well. This offense is very mediocre.

  • Chris92021

    If Brees had this offense, oh my goodness. Sigh I will ride and die with Big Ben but this is a problem, especially since the Steelers aren’t going to win home field advantage.

  • walter

    I guess i didnt miss much

  • Kevin Artis

    I was one who said that. And I admit, I was dead wrong. We needed him and Joe Greene.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    First off – damn, I’d hate to see what some of you would be like if you rooted for an actual bad team.

    Second, yeah, we need to get it together on offense. It’s not so much poor play (though, that’s there), there’s just no cohesiveness. One think Belichick does, supposedly, is makes sure he has a plan for every player that gets the most of out of their abilities. I feel like we have all these weapons that should complement each other, and, except for Brown, aren’t doing anything to utilize their skills.

  • gentry_gee

    I’m done defending him. Team needs a culture change. They’re wasting all this talent on a PE coach. I see no discipline of execution and professionalism.

  • The Dumpmaster

    The “O line” – by definition – consists of the center and the guys flanking him.
    The dudes playing today were makeshift; not the highly regarded O line with all its due respect.

  • Shane Mitchell

    Huh? Tuitt? the guy that led the NFL in missed tackles for an interior linemen in the NFL last year? hell no, Javon Hargrave played well.

  • gentry_gee

    He’s a genius at that. The ‘do your job’ gets drilled in.

  • Taylor Williams

    Lol what. Let’s just go with a 4-3. I’m sick of the 3-4 anyway.

  • Robert Builder

    Harry Truman once said “the buck stops here”… who on our Steelers is gonna say- enough, we have a problem AND we’re gonna fix it… NOW

  • gentry_gee

    You have to fire Haley. You just have to.

  • Shane Mitchell

    huh?

  • gentry_gee

    No one. The stupidity is right at the top.

  • Shane Mitchell

    He is good at managing players, but making in game adjustments, hell No. Terry Bradshaw was right.

  • Taylor Williams

    That’s why I’m not too mad at the D.
    Our offense is supposed to be elite, but can’t score 20 points.

  • Andy Wright

    Could not agree more, he is by far the weakest link

  • MattHat121

    More of the same. There will be sparks throughout the regular season, but this was supposed to be a different year and a different team. It’s not.

  • Bob Russak

    In the very few plays Deebo played, he dropped into coverage. Are you kidding me ? One of the best pass rushers around ? It is total disrespect for such a great player.

  • John

    I only go to football games for the national anthem. I leave before kickoff.

  • Ike Evans

    We lost because we were out coached and out schemed…..couldn’t tackle on defense, and made mistakes on ST……simple

  • The Dumpmaster

    I don’t know, man.
    I don’t buy the “last time X”-happened school of thought. Like… why even play at all? Just predict outcomes based on history and play the super bowl on opening day and be done with it.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    I didn’t get to watch. (Wish not to discuss)
    Just a bad game. Bears have good running backs and it seems that is all they used. Need to play better. Every one on offense need to get on one accord. Idk I didn’t expect the offense to struggle like this. Gotta keep fighting tho. I’m not giving up on em!

  • StillersInThe6

    Agree to disagree. They are two separate entities and I judge them each themselves independently of what the other unit does. The defense was awful today, irrespective of the scoreboard. You give up 200+ rushing yards to a team that can’t pass the ball and you know the run is coming it’s a terrible day.

  • 2winz

    he looked pretty agile doing it to me too

  • Shane

    Losers for team staying in locker room for the anthem.

  • John

    The Steelers disrespected the flag/anthem. The flag represents America. God created America. Therefore Jesus opened up those running lanes for the Bears. That’s just science.

  • Kick

    They didn’t even have the stones to take a stand one way or another. That’s yella

  • Tobi Ge

    you are right!
    but for me it seems like the defense always gets hated on more, and if we win a game the offense ‘played spectatcular’..
    do you understand what i mean?

  • Steeler4EverNoMore

    Boycott the NFL now

  • Steeler4EverNoMore

    BIG Al is on every news site out there.

  • Chris92021

    I want to be wrong about next week but the Ravens just flat own us, especially in that building. I just hope we can keep it close and make sure Tucker doesn’t have a shot to win on a 50+ yard field goal.

  • Shane Mitchell

    and it wasnt like it was all that hard to figure out and make an adjustment during the game, getting crushed by outside runs because they are playing cover-2 and Artie Burns is a pansy, not a hard adjustment to make, dont play so much cover-2 or get his pansy ass off the field and put in a CB that can play the run.

  • Darth Blount 47

    I respectfully disagree. Those QB’s completed passes, lots of passes, to WR’s. This one, did not. But 1.

  • MattHat121

    Good point made on twitter just now: Did we just lose to a team running Navy’s offense?

  • Rick McClelland

    I’d like to say something Alex, but you pretty much nailed it on the head all the way across the board. Unprepared for an inferior opponent. Just another crappy Steeler day.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Nah, we’ll get it together. It’s just weird because it seems like we have no plan to get the team’s offensive weapons to complement each other. I’m not a football genius, but it seems like having an excellent deep threat (Bryant), the best possession receiver in the league (Brown), a top 2 rb, and a top 5 offensive line, and a HOF QB, should allow you to draw up some plays that take advantage of your talent. Even Jesse James is fine as a possession receiver.

    I’m just not seeing any sort of cohesive scheme on offense.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Dude, we heard you the first time. If you disagree with it, that’s fine. Others don’t.

  • pittfan

    Winner, AV for having the courage to express HIS right of free speech.

  • The Dumpmaster

    I share your frustration
    Wife and I listened in car gobbling up mad data on Sunday ticket driving from Massachusetts back to D.C. only to have local blackout 90 minutes from home, scan AM/FM bands non-stop, watch OTHER games just to see updates, have it go to OT, haul ass rest of way only for loss against a previously no-win team.
    It’s cliche, but any given Sunday and other guys are millionaires, too.
    I have no idea what next week brings, but if history truly is an indicator, we’ll see both squads’ best football, and I know one way or another, I’m gonna have 50 heart attacks by sundown Sunday.

  • 2winz

    I am in agreement with everything you said! Big Ben is our qb but we really need a new offensive coordinator. This team reminds me too much of the chiefs from a few years ago before they got rlly good. the kind of team thats not going to outscore teams, but if they dont turn it over, they will stay in the game and it could go either way. 1st 2 games went our way, today.. not so much!

  • pittfan

    +1.

  • Rusted Out

    I think that was a drive killer in a crucial part of the game.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    I think Eli needs to step up. Everyone does. This is exactly the type of win that makes you look in the mirror. Reminds me of the dolphin game last year. Bears have good running backs. With Tuitt and Watt coming back we should be good against the run. I’m not worried as much as some, but we have to be aware that we’re not moving the ball like we should.

  • Rick McClelland

    Amen.

  • Rick McClelland

    Amen brother. The bodies might have showed up on the field, but the football minds were still in the locker room.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Oh yeah, I’m not worried. It would be nice to still have a game up on NE and Baltimore, but we’re still in fine shape and have plenty of talent.

    I’m not gonna lie, the overtime run defense was a little pathetic, but for the most part this seems like the best defense we’ve had since we started rebuilding. We’ve just got an intimidation factor that I haven’t seen in years.

    Like I said, I’m not gonna lie that maybe we should have stacked the box and forced Mike Glennon to beat us with their virtually non-existent WRs. But, I’m not too worried about the season in general.

  • Chad Sanborn

    ugh thats a bad experiment.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    My thoughts exactly.

  • Shane Mitchell

    Keith Butler is just a puppet DC for Mike Tomlin, he runs what Tomlin wants to run which is cover-2. Butler cant bench the puss Artie Burns because he cant play the run in Tomlin’s cover-2 scheme.

  • dennisdoubleday

    There were a lot of upset wins today. It wasn’t just the Steelers. Denver lost in Buffalo. Baltimore got blown out by JAX on the road. Miami lost to the Jets in NY! Now that’s bad. Chicago got killed by TB last week, who lost to the Vikings today, who we beat handily last week. Life in the NFL, unless you’re the Patriots.

  • MattHat121

    We are supposed to be better than all of them.

  • pittfan

    +100. I’m very disappointed and distressed and about all the protest hubub but 1 game does not a season make and they will bounce back and we’ll be in the hunt come January. Book It!

  • Kevin Schwartz

    I’m not gonna lie, I’m trying to decipher your user-name. Is it a literary reference?

  • MattHat121

    Don’t have much confidence in this Offense going into BAL next Sunday.

  • dennisdoubleday

    Sadly, it IS predictable that Todd will go empty backfield on 3rd and goal from the 1. Just idiotic.

  • Jason Vancil

    Ben sure looks like someone who is half retired, mentally.

  • Stevie D

    Same thing year after year. So, much for killer B’s. The only one doing anything is AB. Play calling has been sorry for 3 weeks now.

    Big Ben looks like someone needs retire

  • CP72

    I’m trying to remember the last Davis made a big play………………..

    hold on this may take me a while.

  • dennisdoubleday

    AB doesn’t do anything unless BB gets him the ball, so that doesn’t make a lot of sense.

  • Jaybird

    The highly regarded o line wasn’t so hot the prior two weeks either.

  • Shane Mitchell

    They are not elite and never have been.

  • T R

    actually not true. alot of them ball BB throws to him noone else would have caught.. its all AB on some of them..

  • John Mikita

    This coaching staff sux

  • T R

    no much confindence in defense either. if u let a team with no offense and 2 Rbs one a rookie run all over u.

  • CP72

    Yep 9-2 over the last 11 games….off with their heads.

  • T R

    they all express they right. he just did it outside, the rest did it inside and Tomlin did it on the mic.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Off topic. Carl Lawson 2 sacks right now. Lol could have had Watt and Lawson! (I’m weak)

  • Stevie D

    I find something better do with my Sunday’s. one or two weeks no concerns, but after today’s game Steelers been exposed. average offense at best and bad defense plus bad coaching. Raven beat them next week.

  • CP72

    Gonna miss you on the bandwagon.

  • dennisdoubleday

    Check out AB’s stats last couple years when Ben was out. Not a pretty picture.

  • Michael Conrad

    Dotards of the day. Tomlin for not taking Bell out and giving Conner a chance. Tomlin for not believing in Hunter and having DHB dress for ST’s . They had no threat of a running game and AB and a couple passes to MB will not do it. They have no third WR. Ben for being Ben and thinking he does not have to take whats open. Haley for being the OC. Butler for not putting in four D linemen when it was obvious Chicago could run over the LB’s. A QB who is not going to beat you with his arm and they run it up your butt. Mitchell because he stinks as I have said before.

    The refs for looking the other way on holding calls. I think they just wanted the game over and figured the Bears deserved the win.

    The Steelers for staying in the locker room. Disrespecting my flag and country. Earns you the right to lose every game. I see 8 and 8 at best. Time for Tomlin lovers to own up the guy is average not great.

  • Dr. Watts

    I’m starting to think this team has an identity problem. When we or the media talk about the Steelers the first thing they bring up is how explosive the offense is, don’t get me wrong their is a lot of evidence to support that but I feel this team thinks of it much more than it actually is. I think that we would be a much more successful offense if we just took what the defense gave us rather than try to make splash play after splash play. I think coaching is crippling the team into thinking we have to score 30 to win. I feel the defense is up to par now and can be relied upon to win football games but the offense and their coaching think otherwise. I feel it’s time to bring the reins in on Ben and have him play a smarter and dink and dunk style game.We have the players to make it successful and I feel the defense would play better football if it didn’t have to make the other team punt then three overthrows later their back on the field. The offense should start using drives where been throws for 5 – 8 yards. Basically stop going for the Kill shot and go for a more death by 1000 cuts style offense

  • CP72

    You could probably cut and paste this comment from last year. All we did was go the the AFC championship. It’s week 3 and we’re 2-1. My god people.

  • Jaybird

    More leg room for me and you after they bail.

  • T R

    uhm it was landry, gradkowski and mike vick for past couple years.. can we not think about that.

  • CP72

    Yep they can be 0-15 and I am watching the next week yelling for a win.

    Am I happy…no, but this isn’t the end of season for goodness sake.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Don’t forget we haven’t had a season below .500 in 14 years. But, I’d definitely rather be a Cardinals or Bears or Eagles fan.

  • The Chin

    Something has to give. Where was Vince Williams? We would be better off with another in the box safety out there instead

  • Dr. Watts

    No, in fact it’s just the beginning of a long and most likely successful season!

  • Kevin Schwartz

    It’s also a game – jeez. Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for professionalism, but people have a tough day at work sometimes.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    You shouldn’t be disappointed or distressed about protesting. It is what it is. One game after the president’s comments. They’ll be back out there nxt week. Don’t even want to discuss the subject after last night. I’m in it for the long haul. Been since day uno.

  • Addison

    This isn’t working it hasn’t for years now

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Especially since they didn’t even protest. They took a pointedly neutral stance.

  • Reader783

    Yo fans are allowed to be mad that we lost a game to a vastly inferior opponent that can cost us a first round bye. Imagine if we didn’t lose last year to the Ravens and got a first round bye?

    No need for everyone to make fun of people for being mad. This is a common theme among the Steelers. The standard is not being 0.500, the standard is winning the Superbowl. This loss does not lend to that. We shouldn’t have to pretend to be Cardinals fans and pretend this loss was OK.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    I was referring to people abandoning the team, not complaining on an internet message board. Do you, dude.

  • Reader783

    I’m doing me….see below on a “The coaching staff stinks” post. That isn’t somebody bailing on the team, that’s somebody voicing displeasure.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Definitely more room for my wings and Sonic slush!

  • Ron Lyon

    Looked like they ran at Chickillo a lot. Seemed he had a lot of trouble setting the edge.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Dude, do you know what thread you’re replying to? It started with someone saying they were going to find something better to do with their weekends. I wasn’t responding to your comment about the coaching staff.

  • Reader783

    Yup, I know. Somebody else commented elsewhere “The coaching staff stinks” and you said you’d rather be a Bears fan.

  • It occurred to me today that as much as I like Ben as a QB, how can he possibly be rated as HOF-worthy–someday–if his road performances count toward his final standing? Btw…re biggest losers today, I vote for the Defense as a whole. They were beat by a team with Two RBs [one of them with only one good arm] NO QB, NO WRs, NO TE to speak of, and and injury depleted offensive line. Lets forget any silly talk of ‘how can we beat the Pats.’ A lot of things need to seriously change for the better re this team, or they’ll need tickets if they want to go to the SB.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Someone pointed out that they were 9-2 over the lass 11 games, and I pointed out they also hadn’t gone under .500 in 14 years. So, yeah… I stand by that.

  • CP72

    Ok I’m not normally a negative person, but some of these posts are completely irrational. It’s a bad loss…we can all agree on that.

    After 3 weeks we’re tied for the division lead. We play the team we are tied with next week. We have things to fix. Not the time to fire everyone. Not the time to put Ben out pasture. Not the time to say Bell is a bum. Not the time to say this defense is awful.

    I still believe this is a good team. I believe we will show that before this thing is over.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    You would think they learned from last year.

  • Andrew

    What really has me scared is Ben. Sure, we blew another road game to a way inferior opponent, but that happens and we come back. These first three games though, Ben has looked weak, scared, and gun shy. It got us by playing these bad teams, but once we start facing stiffer competition, he needs to show up. He is playing with a top three offense and a defense that is playing better than they should be. Once we start playing better teams, if he doesn’t show up, we are hosed.

  • Reader783

    You’re absolutely right. But we do this same song and dance every year. At some point enough is enough. It makes me sick to think 1-2 bad losses can cost us the home field we so desperately need. Tomlin has needed home field in the AFC CG both times he made it to the Superbowl. We all see Ben on the road v at home. We need home-field, we can’t afford these losses. They hurt too much.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    There is no scheme. We just throw sh*t at the wall and see if it sticks.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Yeah, I kind of agree. I mean, he’s always been a bit inconsistent, but he just doesn’t seem like he’s in control back there.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    This not a bad team, but they too often look the part.

  • The Dumpmaster

    Man, I agree. My father-in-law rests all blame of run game on Bell.
    Me: dude doesn’t block for himself.
    But, again and in all fairness, backups are backups for a reason and they just don’t get the same weekly team-building as the A-Team.

  • John

    I am tired of Tomlin and the team apparently spent more time preparing for the anthem than for the game. Anyone could tell you that this was the Super Bowl for the Bears. They needed a win. We have now lost twice in three years to Mike Glennon. Might as well hang it up there.

    BTW if we had the rookie RBs we might be doing better than with Bell. Why do we want to pay him $14 million a year? The inability to score a TD after the pick and the inability to lead the team down the field before the two minute warning signaled we would lose. We are losing next week too.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    I promise I will not discuss this issue anymore. Unless someone says anything blatantly disrespectful.

  • LucasY59

    I was thinking before one of the punt returns that AB is still too much of a threat to not be back there at least a couple times a game, and the Rogers muffed punt shows that it would probably be a good idea (and I dont want to hear about the risk of injury since AB does a good job of making the right decision and doesnt put himself in dangerous situations)

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    I also would take a real good look at Sutton when he returns. I think he could turn out better than Rogers.

  • LucasY59

    yeah watching Rogers standing back there I was just thinking to myself the punt team is not afraid to kick it to him at all, at least with AB back there it makes them a little worried (even if all he does is make a fair catch they are still thinking about it / scared of him before the snap)

  • Chris92021

    It is a good team. Not an elite team. It would be an elite team if it won games they are supposed to. Good teams go 10-6 and lose to New England in the playoffs. Elite teams make it to the Super Bowl. I am getting tired of this team not being elite despite the talent on both sides of the ball.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Another thing that it seems like the coaching stuff should have figured out by now. It seems like it can’t be that hard to find a competent returner. They don’t even need to be good, just average would be enough.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Very true. You definitely have to take account for that!

  • Michael Conrad

    I know it does seem like last year and you know what we beat a lot of weak teams last year. I just don’t feel it will get better because the running game just looks dead. They are to easy to defend without a running game. The WR’s after AB and MB are not getting it done. They need Hunter to come in and be a down field threat with AB and MB.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    I think defensive players should not be automatically disqualified from the competition. I honestly feel returns work more in favor for defensive player’s wheelhouse.

  • Michael Conrad

    Rogers is not scaring anyone at WR either they covered him with a LB.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    I didn’t even know they were. I’m not gonna claim any expertise, just seems like something that shouldn’t be that hard to find.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    He needs to step up. I really thought JuJu would take his spot off top. He may take it soon. Eli is just not showing much. Most was last game. We need more.

  • pdupuis

    Goodbye then.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    I’m a big Tomlin supporter, but he doesn’t like putting defensive players on returns. I never cared for this idea.

  • jsteeler

    The flag is a symbol of oppression and racism in America. The national anthem was a poem made into a celebratory song of the murdering of slaves. Before you get on SD with your allegiance to celebrate a piece of cloth over a genuine love for all mankind to be treated equally. Then, you too are a part of the problem. The Steelers players did this collectively. As a Steelers Fan you too are disrespectful if you support a disrespectful team .SMMFH. As far as Ben and Haley, I’ll be glad when they both are gone. They are holding the offense back.

  • Marcel Chris Chauvet

    Very accurate observation. Not sure why Harrison didn’t see the field. Especially as many times as I saw exactly what you just described.

  • Bruno Marques Gentil

    I’m sick and tired of the playcalling, both on offense and on defense. How come they kept pushing for shotgun runs for Bell all game long? The lack of variety of Haley’s offense is irrititating. The same can be said by Butler’s defense. He seems to be reinstating that “4-man rush” philosophy that he tried last year, and failed miserably in the first games. The Bears today could only do one thing: run the freaking ball with two (good) RBs. Glennon would not try to throw the ball, and when he did, it was awful. But Butler (or Tomlin, whoever was calling defensive plays) kept rushing the box with the DL and OLB, with only a few plays as exceptions.
    Tomlin got his contract extended to 2020, but if he continues this disgraceful “tradition” of losing badly to bad teams, we will struggle in the postseason until 2020.

  • LHW

    Oh please……

  • Richard Edlin

    The lack of Harrison was very puzzling. Not a lot of hot hands out there today and setting him loose may have sparked something. Having said that, even down in the fourth I thought the Steelers would win. (PS: this isn’t Tomlin’s call.)

    There were a lot of times where runs seemed to be ignored and Ben went “big” instead, leading to situations where there was no choice but to pass intermediate or long. Ben needs to consider the play after the one he’s currently executing and can’t afford to let his eyes drift to the big play chance every time. (PS: this isn’t Tomlin’s fault.)

    Someone should really point out to Ben that a RPO means Run OR Pass on the play, rather than just a pass. Seriously, I really don’t understand why there aren’t more draw plays to Bell in the offense. If you’re threatening to pass long so often, the CBs are going to bite on WR go routes and the safeties will be quickly out of position to assist. This should provide an opening for Bell (who’s still getting into the season) and will quickly start holding the safeties in place — THEN you go long more successfully. (PS: this isn’t Tomlin’s fault either.)

    (So why are you all going after Tomlin?)

  • Alan Tman

    I can’t blame the defense 2 Turnovers and only gave up 14 points in four quarters. A 90 million dollar offense should be able to score 20 points.

  • Richard Edlin

    Not going out there, en masse, was a stand. AV breaking team unity is possibly more of an issue.

  • Richard Edlin

    LOL. That was done with some style and it’s only a shame that more people didn’t bite.

  • Richard Edlin

    Couldn’t believe they didn’t have him out there on the goal line.

  • Pack

    Man did that lose hurt but we’ll recover we’ll evaluate it make changes like we always do. Still stairway to seven in 2017. Come on y’all it’s only week 3 the season isn’t over.

  • Alex K

    Ben needs to get his ego in control and TAKE SOME SHORT PASSES/CHECKDOWNS. All these deep shots are ridiculous, and half the time the receiver isn’t EVEN OPEN! You don’t just take a deep shot every time someone gets one on one coverage. Look at Brady for Christ sakes.

  • Alex K

    Not a huge Tomlin fan but I put this loss more on Ben and the special teams.

  • gdeuce

    gun shy? he has thrown it a ton, his problem has been not taking the underneath routes, and being keyed in on AB too much

  • gdeuce

    you do know that we were down Foster and Gilbert today

  • gdeuce

    that will surely solve the offensive road woes

  • Reggie Cunningham

    Here’s my thoughts. Bad play calling. Chick is not good against the run. Change of pace with a different rb probably would’ve helped Bell. I was looking for Watson on some of those red zone plays. Haley wanted to throw on every down. The Bears had a lot of success changing up rb.Football is game of chess but we kept doing the same thing. I’m trying not to say fire Haley but this offense is not moving and it looks flat. I never did want Butler because I wanted a change in the defense

  • Arthur Branch

    I agree Chick looked bad against the run. They had the answer in Harrison standing on the sidelines. I bet he was upset.

  • francesco

    Bears were trying to give us the game but Ben and Haley wanted nothing to do with it.
    Haley needs to be replaced and Ben will retire so what’s the difference.
    Leveon Bell has lost his mojo.
    All we got is AB. That’s it.

  • pdupuis

    #1 should be last on the list. Had nothing to do with what happened between the lines.

  • Reggie Cunningham

    Ok.I’m going touch a little off football. F#%K a Flag, F#$K a president and government. We need to get off the bs as people. All this sh%t is just a distraction to keep us from being united. Black, white, Baptist, Jehovah Witness or any other religion or race it’s just another form to divide us. What we stand against is government that’s trying to control us. Now back to football

  • Kick

    Maybe. nothing would have stopped me from standing on the sideline.

  • Roberto Vaquero Bazán

    Totally agree, defense did good not surrending any points from offense 2 turnovers, and did set twice field positions to score, offense is falling short, Coaching staff is a constant clueless crew!

  • francesco

    Ben stinks and you guys blame Eli Rogers?!

  • francesco

    Everyone knew the Bears were going to run the ball and still our defense was clueless.

  • Tinglehouserock

    When the other team is running to the left nearly every play, and you have one of the best edge defenders in the league sitting on your bench, what should you do? Maybe not leave James Harrison on the bench right?

    Their handling of James Harrison is one of the most curious things I’ve seen in quite a long time especially considering how badly they needed him this game. Poor coaching all around but that one really stuck out to me

  • Mark

    We shouldn’t be surprised, this happens every year with this team. Anytime you can’t stop the run, it’s a wrap. I failed to understand why Javon Hargrave isn’t on the field more and we actually play man to man against a non talented QB.

  • Roberto Vaquero Bazán

    Because its his team, so its his fault, too many penalties, bad clock management and and unprepared team, that constantly loses to a lesser teams on The road!

  • Denny

    Especially frustrating against an RB with one arm and no threat from the passing game.

  • Delboka

    Man the Steelers blow chunks.

  • gdeuce

    That backup QB destroyed the Bucs who beat up on the Bears last week

  • aWaL

    Playing to the level of the opponent is unfortunately expected. Year after year it’s the same thing. “Playing a crap team huh…yea it’s gonna be a nail biter”….if I had a nickel

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Everyone needs to step up.

  • Michael Conrad

    Nice

  • charles

    The Butler is worse than LaBonehead. It is a very distant memory when Mean Joe Greene told Bradshaw “just get us 7 and we will make it stand up”. The Butler’s D has looked sophomoric since his very first game against New England. GET RID OF THIS STUPID 3-4!!!
    As well, Rooney might look very carefully at his choice in the T, because SOOO000 many times this team has come out flat and unprepared.

  • charles

    Tell that to his ‘coach’. Actually what the hay, you could take the Buttler’s place with no loss of continuity…

  • francesco

    Because Ben can do no wrong.

  • Bryan Ischo

    Bring back Charlie Batch! That guy was so easy to root for.

    Honestly I think he’d play better than Ben at this point. Ben’s decision making is just terrible, and his accuracy is mediocre at best.

  • DSG

    We’re winners for letting wheaton leave. Dude had like 2 balls clang off his hands.

  • Edjhjr

    Summer camp ended. We have to play like it’s a Sunday NFL game against an NFL team.

    Will somebody tell them

  • Edjhjr

    Yes

  • Edjhjr

    Mind boggling

  • Edjhjr

    Looking for somebody to disagree with you. Give me time, lots of time

  • VinHuddle

    Winner…Alejandro Villanueva for supporting the anthem.

  • The Dumpmaster

    We’ll miss him when he’s gone.
    Remember all those forgettable players from Bradshaw to Ben?
    I do. That time sucked.

  • Vic

    I grew up in the 80s in northern California and I alalways stated a true Steelers fan even through some rough years and I never wanted to denounce my team. But win so tired of coach thinking that I’m on the verge to jump ship if the Steelers don’t can this smuck

  • Petherson Silveira

    Haley and his 01 personnel is horrendous. All three game i have to watch this sh11t. Idiot. 01 personnel to pass. 21, 22 personnel to run. So predictible. At some point Ben had 16/30 with 175 yards. That is terrible. We need to run more often and feed Bell a lot more. Ovethrow Bryant every play will put us in bad situations. Also, throw in the first down, in case it is incomplete, force us to throw again at least one more time within the second or third down, and worst, if the second down is a incompletion two, guess what, we need throw in the third down & long.

  • The Dumpmaster

    Steelers have won games with single/zero offensive scores.
    It happens.

  • DarthYinzer

    1) Ben’s stats are pedestrian at best. 22/39 235 yds, 1TD, 0 picks(thank God). 82.7 rating. If you look up “meh” in the dictionary, it should have this statline in it. Missing a wide open MB on the FIRST FREAKING PLAY! Someone needs to explain to him, again, he does not have to wear a cape and be superman out there. We have talented WRs. If the only open stuff is underneath, TAKE IT!
    2) Poor run discipline & failure to adjust. This is about 60/40 coaches/players. Why in the blue hell is Harrison on the bench when chick is getting gouged again and again.
    3) Bell can forget about being paid the lofty salary he put forth in the preseason. Maybe he’s just tanking so he can get paid somewhere else, IDK.
    4) Losing to inferior teams happens from time to time. NOT three or four times a year. But it’s been the same story year after year for about 5 years now.
    If it seems this post is only about the negatives…that’s what happens when you blow a game you’re supposed to win.

  • Lambert58

    Doesn’t sound like the statement of a true Steelers fan.

  • Randy

    Rooney only cares of his pocket book. As long as we reach playoff, thas all he cares.

  • gdeuce

    Bell wouldn’t tank on purpose, he wants as much money as he can get next year and if he performs poorly then it gives him less leverage in contract negotiations

  • gdeuce

    bye, you won’t be missed

  • thomas hmmmm

    Wow really? Hargrave is a winner for getting a sack that had little impact on the game and pressure that had little impact on game because the Bears only passed a handful of times. Yet what they did do successfully all game was run the ball up the middle with Hargraves consistently getting pushed back and sealed to create lanes all game long.
    Yea he is a winner for a meaningless sack. He won’t be a star until he is stout against the run and he has yet to show that at all.
    Hampton was a star around the league and it wasn’t for his sack numbers, it was because the man could never be pushed out of a run lane.

  • DSG

    17 points on how many possesions? Chicago was trying to give us this game and we still lost. Last game we didnt score that much bc minn has a good defense, before that it was bc the browns are actually pretty good too. Whats the reason this week? How about, we’re just not that good? Bell and bryant have had time to adjust to the game. The offense cant sustain drives, it’s maddening

  • barely_free

    Apparently more times that what happened today.

  • DSG

    Jwobble is a stud. He played like heyward last week.

  • Steeler B

    so uber frustrated with this loss and the nfl game right now. almost unwatchable even on DVR zipping through the breaks.

  • thomas hmmmm

    Blame Butler!! Since when has the Steelers consistently given up 100 yards rushing? Survey says, since Butler took over.

  • Jason Vancil

    I still need someone to explain the ruling on the play at half. I was under the understanding that it should’ve been a Touchback and the ball awarded to the Steelers. When a defender intercepts the ball or recovers a fumble and has the ball punched out and goes through the end zone, it is a Touchback, correct? So, how is a FG block return any different? Is it because Jordan Berry batted the ball? How would that alter possession? The Steelers awarded the ball on the 20 and then the batting penalty marked off and the half is over or we have to run one play. Am I all wet and need to study the rules further? Am I the only one who thought it should be our possession?

  • thomas hmmmm

    Agreed on Butler, but no so much on the Chick statement. A lot of those runs were going up the middle and Hargraves was being washed out every single time. I put the blame on Butler for not going 3-4 the entire game and for not putting McC in there to clog the middle.

  • Reader783

    As I’ve said elsewhere in this thread, I’ll blame everyone if I have to. The buck stops with Tomlin. He was a former DC, maybe he should tell Butler where he is going wrong. Coaching staff is on my hot seat, for whatever that’s worth to them.

  • Michael Pennant

    Wrong. Haley and Butler. Offense has no rhythm unless running no huddle. Offensive scheme is awful unless great plays are made. Defense sometimes looks confused and too spread out. Where is the man to man? Tomlin seems to not have this team focused. Sure we got less penalties, but then less aggressive. I miss TJ and Tuitt already!!!

  • thomas hmmmm

    It’s Butler’s job to make adjustments to what the opposing offense is doing. Not just Tomlin but Butlers.. He is calling the D, not much Tomlin can do if Butler is calling the plays. Not unless he takes the duty away from Butler.

  • thomas hmmmm

    Man to man? Did you watch the game? Pass D was great. The Bears didn’t need to pass at all because the Bears ran all over the D.

  • Chris92021

    Yes, because Berry batted the ball out of bounds. If the ball went out of bounds on its own (or through an unintended batting/kicking), then the ball would have belonged to the Steelers at the 20 as a touchback.

  • Reader783

    Who is responsible for the offense, defense, special teams and penalties? I’m done offloading blame to the people below Tomlin. I’ve done it for years, I’m done as of today. The buck stops with Tomlin.

  • Michael Conrad

    Well I saw this coming. I have been saying Rogers is not fast or quick
    and the D’s have spotted this and are using a LB to cover him at times. JJSS is a
    rookie and is not getting separation. Ben also is not looking for them
    or they are not getting down field and open in time.

    Play design on runs
    and passing is not very good, The blocking is horrendous. I have looked at the schedule and without the offense getting a lot better they could be 8 and 8 or even a losing season. I know they have pulled it out in the past but this feels different . I don’t see an spark from the team. They are playing without emotion like they just expect to win by walking on the field. I ready don’t think Ben is into it playing anymore.

    I wonder if he was not happy about the decision to stay inside during the National Anthem.

  • Reader783

    It’s Tomlin’s job to game-plan with him before the game, etc. I’m not letting Butler off the hook, but I’m done not blaming Tomlin. He has to rally the troops. This team should MASSACRE half the teams we lose to.

  • SouthernSteel

    Butler called a great game… So many missed tackles when the defender was in perfect position to make a play… Shazier and Heyward ouch… 😵… Were they drunk?

  • Bullfrog Man

    you learn in pee-wee league football…WRAP THE ARMS! Did this whole defense forget that today?

  • Bullfrog Man

    And quit using first round picks to do it. Our best linebackers in our history were second round and later.

  • Bullfrog Man

    Miami might give us Timmons back but don’t hold your breath

  • Bullfrog Man

    Guys an Army Ranger…more expected to.

  • #7

    Tomlin is an empty track suit with Erik Estrada glasses. This is a good team with a LOT of good players, but this team won’t win another championship under the current regime I’m afraid. Like it or not, Bradshaw was right about him.

  • Bullfrog Man

    One of the greatest motivators is embarrassment and humiliation. The Ravens got that right in front of National TV…or rather world today in London. I think we will see a much tougher opponent that the jags saw today.

  • #beatthepats

    Please tell me why the baddast strongest guy on the team doesnt take a snap. It was 90 degrees on the field harrison cant play at all? This coach does this all the time, bell looked slow dropped a pass in the redzone and he sticks with him? He absolutly looks slow. That surgery has had an effect, maybe thats why he did come to camp. Conner and harrison should have played some. No way howard walks off tackle with harrison in there.

  • Bullfrog Man

    I hope he looks better than the recent pre-season

  • Jason

    demolish them

  • Bullfrog Man

    All of you who just posted above..the Steelers did what they did to avoid this controversy all together.

  • Bullfrog Man

    You should at least stay a minute longer for the Zombie Nation song leading up to kickoff. It’s a cool tune.

  • Bullfrog Man

    Shhhh…I was just dusting off my old Kent Graham jersey in protest.

  • Weaser3655

    Over react much??

  • PaeperCup

    I’ll defend him. I’m not defending a loss, a road loss, or a loss to an inferior team, but the guy comes up big against quality opponents. If you look a the bad, you have to look at the good too. He has a bad record against inferior teams, but an overall good record. Wouldn’t that mean he has an excellent record against quality teams? Today we get on his case, but I see no reason for panic.

  • PaeperCup

    it was ugly. We are not doomed, and these losses come out every year. Last year who was it…the Eagles? The Dolphins? In the end, Steelers were in the AFCCG. So take this one on the chin and get better. Disgusting loss, but still lots to look forward to

  • Reader783

    I’ve praised him for 10 years. A winning coach, winning record, winning history.

    But I have to be rational. The 2 Superbowls Tomlin has gone to have had AFC Championship games IN PITTSBURGH. We all know how Ben does at home, we all know how we do at home. And we all know that 11-5 v 12-4 is HUGE for that first round bye and home field advantage. Winning a lot of games and making it to the AFC CG is great. But when the alternative is to beat the 4-12 Bears and get a HOME AFC CG for a shot at the Superbowl, can you blame me for wanting that?

  • 6 ring circus

    Somebody with a little sense speaks…

  • pcantidote

    It’s not losing this game that makes me so mad, it’s that now it puts so much pressure on next week. Baltimore is fully confident they can beat us and they are going to be smoking mad. If we lose again we are 2-2 and looking up in the standings. How disappointing.

  • rystorm06

    I was thinking the same thing. He’s not looking like the same QB any more

  • Larry Iuluis

    That isn’t saying much.

  • #7

    You think we have problems on offense? Theirs is atrocious. First to 10 might win.

  • pcantidote

    This is true, but they always seem to figure it out against us. Hell, even Ryan Mallet figured it out against us.

  • PaeperCup

    We all want that, we do. My argument will continue to be, without him, do we even sniff the AFCCG, home or away.

    Years ago, Eagles got rid of Andy Reid because he couldn’t get past the NFCCG, the one time he did he lost in the Super Bowl. Since then Eagles have struggled to field a quality team. Of course most his success came with Mcnabb under center. Well perhaps when Ben retires a lot of the Tomlin detractors will get their wish and Tomlin will be exposed as a mediocre coach.

  • Reader783

    I think he’s a good coach when he has to be. But as of today, I see an overwhelming trend that he coaches down to some teams.

  • The Dumpmaster

    Fair enough, but that’s a 2-sided coin. Steelers got served by a team with no statistical right to wash their jock straps. It’s on next Sunday.

  • John Phillips

    And what happened in the AFCCG ?

  • Bryan Ischo

    Kordell Stewart had some exciting years. Tommy Maddox was quite good for a short while too. I don’t recall the difference between then and now being that great to be honest, in terms of my frustration with the Steelers’ performance. Yeah during Ben’s decade of greatness, there is no doubt that things were better at the QB position. But not so much anymore …

  • Don

    This is a good point. I think on most of the plays where the defense got gashed, they were in the backfield with strong penetration. But then they didn’t wrap up on the tackle and/or didn’t have anyone in pursuit to help finish it off.

  • Jason Vancil

    Ok. That exact explanation I never heard from the announcers or the officials. Now makes sense.

  • Code Warrior

    Ben Roethlisberger + Antonio Brown + LeVeon Bell + Martavis Bryant = 17 points

  • Jimbo

    Tomlin is not the leader to inspire blue collar smash mouth Steelers Football. never has been. His teams come out flat and uninspired in most trap games. The teams that come out fired up ready to beat them usually do with the lack of passion they carry, Ben is the biggest issue. he doesnt come out with intensity, I suggest tomlin make him do mandatory cardio before each game. bell seems to be slacking as well.
    to get number 7 They need a Head coach that can motivate them properly. Tomlin is not the guy,

  • Code Warrior

    Offense averaging 14.3 points per game. Also near the bottom of the league in 3rd completion percentage. Ben threw 39 times, LeVeon ran 16 times – No balance.

  • John A Stewart

    Butler has no clue personally I think he’s very lazy coach Chick was getting destroyed out there and no Harrison. Also Mitchell hasn’t played in the preseason like he’s that good . We need safeties that can do it all and stay on the field and Davis this guy is to fragile.

  • John Phillips

    Unfortunately that stairway runs through New England, if we don’t have a better record than them.

  • John Phillips

    Harrison not playing IS Tomlin’s call.

  • Josh Gustad

    It hurt to even open up Steelers Depot after that loss. I wish the rapture would have happened…lol

  • PaeperCup

    What happened was 2 teams played in it while 28 other teams watched from their couch.

  • gdeuce

    can’t be balanced when there are no running lanes

  • Arthur Branch

    This loss will have them focused for next week. On the good side it was against a nfc team. If they take care of business against the ravens all is still well.

  • Bullfrog Man

    I totally agree with you on Chicago vs. us. I think the Ravens got totally embarrassed 44-7 on a neutral field to a lesser opponent. Can’t help but wonder if both teams weren’t looking ahead to each other.

  • Chris92021

    I have no faith that our QB , head coach, and the rest of the coaching staff will lead us to victory. Of course, we can all hope for Flacco to throw 3 interceptions and get sacked 10 times. Then we might actually win in that building. I apologize for being Captain Killjoy but this team and its on-field “leadership” is flat out embarrassing. How the Bears ran up and down the field on us with that average at best offensive line and no threat of passing game is grounds for termination as far as I am concerned.

  • Arthur Branch

    I think the bombs are more Ben making the decision than Haley calling it. Ben ignores the medium routes and since Bell is in a funk he’s not dropping it of to him this year.

  • gdeuce

    most of their successful runs were on the outside, not up the middle

  • Matt

    Who? Tomlin or Ben? Reality is that Ben is as much to blame as Tomlin for the majority of these crappy losses.

    Defense didn’t have a great day today, but it wasn’t bad. 10 of the Bears 17 points on the day were handed to the Bears by the Steelers’ special teams. And the Steelers’ D set up the offense inside the Bear’s 25 yard line. Oh yeah, and they held Chicago scoreless in the second half.

    Outside of Brown, “the league’s best offense” has looked much more like it’s most ordinary offense.

  • nutty32

    Losers: Fans sh!tting on the week 1 win in Cleveland. Every win is a win.

  • Ichabod

    Sick of Ben admitting he played badly
    He is supposed to be elite
    He is not!

  • WB Tarleton

    And ten of those points set up directly by the defense. 16 yard TD drive and a 7 yard FG drive after turnovers.

    Pathetic.

  • Ichabod

    What?! Defense didn’t have a bad day???
    How many missed tackles?
    What was YPC for Bears?
    I could’ve average 5 yards per carry against the New steel curtain yesterday

  • Mark

    AVillaneuava jersey on order. Only man keeping me a steelers fan

  • Mark

    Easy: locker room bullshit and usual Tomlin lack of prep. Week 7 we should be good. A-hole bell gets value dropped for contract. Couldn’t be happening to a better a$$hole

  • Mark

    Villanueva just became the #1 jersey in America

  • Mark

    Libshits matter zero

  • SteelersGeek4Lyfe

    Losers: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Somebody please hide the sharp objects in my apartment, for f***s sake.

  • Rod Hedrick

    I disagree, they were more worried about politics then playing football. It had to be a distraction!

  • John Pennington

    This team still cant beat teams they should and is now a big problem that the coaching and team needs to figure out.Cant call yourself a championship caliber team when you continue to let teams you should be able to put away and cant or dont.Guess 2 losses in a row with the Ravens next week.

  • DAWAARE

    Ben is clearly washed up and does not care as much.
    He is gone after this year
    Sign kirk cousins next year.

  • steelmann58

    No excuse all on Tomlin and his coaches. Ben again your right failed to show up on the road it continues to happen. The run defense terrible but is James injured is that a reason why he not playing and continue to throw chickello as a suitable replacement against the run

  • steelmann58

    Your right sad day for me as a Steeler fan but Tomlin teams continue to repeat the same mistake

  • steelmann58

    Defense a joke no changes to how to stop the outside zone run butler wake up

  • Rusted Out

    Fans were $hitting on the deficiencies they saw in this team that got them beat by the sorry a$$ Bears. Week 3 vindicated their concerns.

  • Rusted Out

    That’s a good point. We all assume Bell is 100% healthy because he has come back from surgery before. That may not be the case.

  • Rusted Out

    The only man on the team.

  • Steve Johnson

    Wow! Big Ben on the losers list? Kudos, he deserves to be. Will he ever start to trust his other WR’s to make plays? The play calling by Todd Hallet, 3rd and two, 3rd and three, empty back sets? Not mixing it up, trying something different just for a plays. Why not use Watson on short yardage plays? The Defense, or should I say Run Defense, Where Art Though? They didn’t come to Chicago.

    Yet another loss to an inferior team when the QB threw for less than 60 yards? After the 1st two series by the Offense and Defense, I already knew what the outcome was going to be. Pathetic Performance.

  • Delboka

    When Foster went down I thought it was Ben.

    Both about the same weight and soze these days.

  • razaard2

    We got destroyed on our base defense as well. A good mix of wide open gaps and failed tackles doesn’t matter the play or side

  • Matt

    Shhhhhh. You’re making too much sense. You need to simply bang the drum for firing everyone except Ben.

    75 of the Bears rushing yards came after regulation and two giant chunks of that came on plays where Steeler defenders were held. Run defense in regulation was probably a C. But the pass defense was an A.

    If what was supposed to be the best offense in the league actually showed up on Sunday this game would have ended 31 to 17.

  • Michael James

    Nearly all of their succesful runs were to the outside. Hargrave was great in the middle, even PFF gave him the highest grade out of all Steelers.

  • Michael James

    I think it’s fair to ask the question everyone has been thinking: Is Ben officially done as an above average QB in the league? It certainly seems like it.
    On another note: Todd Haley needs to go. I’ve actually never said anything against him, but enough is enough. The playcalling has been atrocious this season and the supposedly all-world offense looks like one of the worst offenses in the league right now, no exaggeration. This goes back to last season imho. The last few games (except against a banged-up Dolphins defense) were very poor offensively.
    Run defense was horrible yesterday, but they get a pass from me for this one game. The defense actually was the only reason they won the first two games and why they were in it until the very end yesterday.

  • Alex K

    Just grandstanding from Ben. He’ll admit he played badly and then make the same decisions next week.

    More deep shots on the way!

  • Bradys_Dad

    I wonder if he’s regretting not signing the deal offered (assuming the #s and data are correct that is) ? If his season continues at this pace he’ll be lucky to get 10mil annually instead of the 12 offered and his desire for 15. Man shoulda took to the pen.

  • 2020_Vision

    The Steelers were the more talented team and should have beaten the Bears. But this narrative of the Bears being a pushover is BS. They gave the Falcons all they could handle in that game. Tampa Bay’s Defense came to play during that game and they had a extra week to prepare. Tampa Bay didn’t do so well versus Minnesota. The point is any given Sunday you can win or lose. Defense definitely needs to commit to the fundamentals of tackling and limiting extra yards (PUT THE MAN DOWN WITH THE BALL). The Offense is too concerned about big plays. Time and time again they neglect to just move the chains. All those weapons and they keep looking for 60 yd bombs. Move the chains consistently and the big plays will be there. Coach Tomlin needs to address these issues, but I don’t see another Coach out there that I’d rather have. Before people start yelling about the coach in NE, He’s blessed with Tom Brady.

  • 2020_Vision

    Ben has contributed to wasting the window as well. His play as been mediocre at best the last few years. And below par when its mattered the most. But he is not alone. The defense can’t make stops in crucial moments and the O-Line gives up sacks and commits penalties at the most crucial moments as well.

  • Matt Correll

    As bad as the defense was(and it was BAD), I have to say I put this loss on the offense. Regulation ended, and the defense only gave up 17 points. 7 of those points came off of a terrible muffed punt, and 3 of those points came off of the blocked FG. So, the defense, and there 100 missed tackles today, only gave up one true scoring drive.

    I’m tired of hearing about how many weapons Ben has, and see us barely able to squeak out 17 points. It is unacceptable…

  • Conserv_58

    Steelers fans had to swallow the cold hard fact that, under Mike Tomlin, this team continually fails to live up to expectations, especially against losing teams and on the road. Mike Tomlin’s record will show that his supposedly superior teams have been beaten by the Tim Tebows, Mike Glennons of the NFL.

    I don’t want to hear any excuses that it’s only the third game or that injuries played a part. On paper, the Steelers should have done to the bears what the Panthers did to the ravens. This starts at the top and Mike Tomlin, being the HC, should have not allowed the players to decide to not be on the sideline. Obviously, it was a distraction and it negatively affected their performance. It could also have serious consequences later on in their season.

    I don’t care what side of the political isle fans are on, but what the players are doing is why I am adamantly against the NFL, the owners and NFLPA for allowing and encouraging these political protests to continue. It is negatively affecting their product and their tanking TV ratings prove that fans are tuning them out. The same goes for the tens of thousands of empty stadium seats. I love Steelers football, but I also have a limit to how much I’m willing to take with the politicization of the sport.

  • Conserv_58

    Makes one wonder if have LT in place of VW would have made the difference. Just sayin’.

  • Conserv_58

    The bottom line is, they should not lose to the teams they have no business losing to. Losing to teams with losing records and bad QB’s, (Tim Tebow) should never happen with the talent Tomlin has at his disposal. This comes down to coaching and this coaching staff should be humiliated for losing to the bears.

  • Conserv_58

    So far, of the QB class of 2004, Rivers is the only one playing at a high level. Of the big three, Eli is just gawd awful.

  • johnhoien

    The missed tackles! I felt we took a time machine back to our 8 & 8 season.. Not good.

  • Biggie

    I see no positives to take away from this game. They failed in every aspect, Defense, Offense, Special Teams and on the sideline. I’ll give the OL a bit of a pass as the played well enough down 2 starters to be able to win the game, even if they did make a few mistakes I won’t put the onus on them. Bryant took a big step back dropping the TD and he definitely should have caught that and also a number of other targets in which he sat back waiting on the ball instead of owning the catch and going after them letting smaller dbs knock them down. James played hard while hurt but where was McDonald, especially in the red zone. Ben has got to step up on the road, he was throwing high all day long, enough is enough, get better prepared and quit trying to force the ball deep, take what is there. He had open receivers in middle of the field all day long. Bell looked slow and sloppy. He had a couple good runs but he missed holes and couldn’t get outside and definitely is not in game shape. He better keep his mouth shut about money because he hasn’t earned what he is getting now this year. Also where the hell is Connors, put him in a couple series to spell Bell, he runs hard every play. Maybe Bell will wake up some. Defensively we sucked period. Everyone missed tackles but our LBs across the board were extremely horrible and all day long everyone was out of position. What is going on with Harrison, is he hurt, is he not wanting to play. You have to put him in there to spark the defense as needed. He’s not going to miss tackles and he will at the least put forth the full effort. Mitchell better start playing better, more than once he was just standing around and not coming up to support the run until the back was 10 yards down the field. Coaching speaks for itself. If they put a product like that on the field, they are definitely to blame. The play-calling was horrid. They ran when they should have passed and passed when they should have run. Haley once again showed he is unable to call plays in tight games as the offense looked lost in the most inopportune times. Other than McDonald’s saving smart play the STs also was terrible. We once again still have no return game. This was simple an embarrassing loss as we seem to be to find in the team every year. Had a chance to go up in the division and blew it and now have to travel to ravens after they had an embarrassing loss and we may be down a number of starters. Absolutely disgusting display.

  • Constantinople

    Excuse me?? Defense had a horrid day!

  • Ray Powell

    Have to put Xavier Grimble in with the losers, as he missed his assignment for the blocked field goal, instead deciding to block a guy who was already being dealt with and let his man go. Responsible for a six-point swing that could have been a ten-point swing.

  • Constantinople

    shut up loser. quit being led around by the nose by the media

  • Constantinople

    want a cookie?

  • Constantinople

    well why dintcha say something sooner????

    great comment, einstein

  • L Garou

    The last couple of years Ben has been very nonchalant about loses. Shoulder shrug, oh well,
    it’s only one game, it’s a long season, yaaaaaawn.
    He looks old, tired and bored..
    And his coach is a platitude machine. He talks real purty..

  • Kick

    The athletes are the fools being lead around by propaganda..

  • L Garou

    He’s a brother first and a coach second..

  • ATL96STEELER

    The Steelers were outplayed in all three phases so we have to give
    Tomlin some blame for that, but so far this season, the OFC has much
    further to go than I expected.

    After another loss to team with a losing record has become the norm under Tomlin, but this game imo has far less to do with Tomlin and more to do with OFC execution…let’s face it, the high powered OFC has scored 2 TD/1FG in week one, 2 TD/4FG in week two, 2 TD/1FG yesterday.

    That’s not high powered and when you factor, they played, CLE, MIN, and CHI (only 1 legit top 10 DEF in MIN) I wouldn’t even call the Steelers OFC good right now.

  • Constantinople

    hell no. Dobbs will never (or should never) eclipse backup#1 on the depth chart

  • Work Toward

    Ben is the problem… The only thing I think Tomlin should consider is to bench Ben with a live arm… Benjamin is Done!

  • Work Toward

    Ben is the problemo

  • Work Toward

    Tomlin doesn’t need you or anyone else for defense matters… Ben plays the game and manage the offense. …and get paid mucho dinero!

  • Work Toward

    Ben is the problem… He admitted it. All the weapons in the world isn’t going to erase HIS losing performance on the road. Tomlinson is at fault giving him the benefit of the doubt… Payton Manning if spelled right experience the same thing.

  • Kick

    No, I want men to me men and take a stand.

  • John Noh

    Against Minnesota he found Eli Rogers for the crossing route several times to good effect. Was Eli even targeted in the game yesterday? Was he in the doghouse because of his botched punt return?

  • Smitty 6788

    How is Chickalo not on this list? He was horrible all game in the run game. The biggest reason we lost this game.

  • Michael Pennant

    Your right, the buck stops with Tomlin. I think one of the reasons for lack of focus is that he gives veterans too much time off from practice.

  • JimK-51

    A one armed (injured) running back, and A midg– (excuse me) little person, and we can’t stop them. Way to go Butler, and way to go Defense… There’s only 1 Bowl where headed for and it isn’t Super…
    Way to go Tomlin, maybe Terry was right, oh and nice job of not letting politics distract you…
    What A Dynamic Offense also, Haley & Ben…
    I bet you Bill and the Cheatriots are LTFA’sO…

  • PaeperCup

    Very good point about the talent of the Bears. This is the NFL and “any given Sunday” continues to ring true.

    Steelers did look sloppy, and this is a VERY winnable game especially in hindsight. They got the best of us, using two very very talented running backs. Their defense played well too, got pressure on Ben, kept WRs in check, and didn’t leave much for the running game either. They played us as well as they could, and we played as sloppy as we could.

  • Paddy

    Go stick something up your asss

  • Matt

    Let me do something crazy here and just inject some facts into this discussion.

    The defense produced 2 turnovers that set up the offense inside the Bears’ 25 yard line – well within field goal range. In this respect, I think it’s safe to say that the defense handed the Steelers 6 points. The defense held the Bears to 17 points during regulation and 84 yards passing total. Run defense wasn’t great during regulation by any means, but the Bears only gained 146 total yards on the ground during regulation.

    That means the defense forced two turnovers that set the Steelers up in scoring range and held the Bears to 230 total yards during regulation. The Bears had 74 yards of total offense in the second half of the game. That’s not a bad job. If you told me that the defense would do that during regulation before this game, I’d bet everything that the Steelers win by 14 points, at least. They didn’t because the offense did not play like the elite unit it is supposed to be (with the exception of Brown, who always brings his ass). I don’t know whether Ben believes what he said after the game about this loss being on him. But he should believe it. Through week 3, it looks to me like this team has an average (at best) offense.

    I know many on this site don’t like to hear any criticism of St. Ben, but our elite QB got spotted 6 points by the “crappy Defense” and still couldn’t manage more than 17 total points on the game against a Bears defense that isn’t going to be confused with the 85 squad.

  • Steve Johnson

    I don’t think he was, I just think #7 thinks he and A.B. can accomplish anything. Nothing wrong with being confident, but his play and decision making? I don’t think one would expect to see this from a veteran QB of 14 years. He makes poor decisions on the Football Field.

  • Steve Johnson

    Tomlin and Butler isn’t on the field; now, I think Tomlin should have went to Todd Haley and told him What The (BLEEP) are you doing calling passing plays to gain 1,2 or three yards. Stupid! I also think Tomlin should have made a switch at RB, gave Watson or Conner more carries. I’ve said it before and will say it again, Tomlin doesn’t make adjustments during games. Too much of a Players Coach, afraid to stir up the pot and sit players that aren’t doing their jobs.

  • Steve Johnson

    You just may be on to something there, surprise someone else has the guts to come out and say it. However, I wouldn’t bench him just yet, but I would sit him down and have a long conversation with him.

  • Rusted Out

    Judging by his attitude and actions so far, I don’t think he’s smart enough to realize he made a mistake. Even if the numbers were right in front of him, he lacks the humility to accept it.

  • MC

    it certainly wasn’t this season. maybe one nice run stop against the Browns in week 1 but that’s as far as it goes.

  • MC

    I think when we are heavily favoured like this im gonna put money on the other team, could make some good cash.

  • I.P. Freeley

    I traveled from Southern California to Chicago to watch this game, and it was an EMBARRASSING effort from both sides of the ball. When the heat got to the Defense at the end of the game, and we got gashed I can almost forgive that. But the OFFENSE was give the ball back at the end of the 4th quarter and couldn’t even muster a GD field goal.

    Are we sure Ben didn’t retire, and no one told him? This isn’t a SB team, its not even a playoff team from what I saw at Soldier Field yesterday.

    And dear God, Glennon was the worst worst worst, and WE COULDN’T STACK THE BOX AND STOP THE RUN??? WHO IS COACHING THESE GUYS?? I have literally never seen us get embarrassed like that on a ground attack, not to mention a banged up O-line. The D players should be donating their paychecks to FEMA.

    I am disgusted with this team right now, good teams win games like this, mediocre teams, with mediocre coaches don’t.

  • I.P. Freeley

    Ben is just as much to blame, they lead this team, but neither seem to be leaders.

  • I.P. Freeley

    But the D gave the Offense the ball TWICE at the end of the 4th quarter, with NOTHING to show for it. Thats more than enough for an elite QB, which apparently we no longer have.

  • I.P. Freeley

    AMEN! That’s what I’m saying, they gave the Offense the ball with TWO chances to WIN THE EFFING GAME. We got all of 0 points and went to overtime.

  • Ichabod

    Oh I agree
    The whole team sucked (except Brown and Hargrave) including coaching staff
    I am concerned about this highly gifted yet poor performing team

  • NCSteel

    To me, what is missing from his teams is intensity and passion.

  • NCSteel

    It’s like a dports car that just isn’t firing right.
    Oh it moves, but it feels like it’s holding itself back a little. Coordinator?…
    Passion, intensity,
    Undeniably missing.
    Execution ? …spotty.
    This is no way to win a Super Bowl…
    Hopefully they fine tune and fire on all cylinders sooner rather than later.

  • NCSteel

    It starts with a hunger and intensity from the coach and he may just be too heady for all that.
    I don’t know but when was the last time that came out like they were shot out of a gun,
    Maybe early last year for a game or two ?
    I don’t know, down on the whole thing tight now

  • Steel Realist PAul

    Seems to be little areas across the board vs one particular weakness. Very little is going very well or well with any consistency; save for 79, as you mentioned, Alex.

  • I.P. Freeley

    Amen to that. Can Ben put some extra time in to get in rhythm? Why do they look so out of sync? Come on offense, DO BETTER!