Roethlisberger Explains Look Of Disgust After Incompleted Deep Pass To Bryant

During Sunday’s win over the Cincinnati Bengals at Heinz Field, Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger attempted to connect with wide receiver Martavis Bryant with a deep pass down the left sideline on a 1st down and 10 play with 2:59 left in the third quarter. After that pass fell incomplete, the television cameras showed Roethlisberger’s reaction and his face looked like he might have been disgusted with Bryant’s effort to find and catch the football.

Because of that facial expression, Roethlisberger was asked Tuesday morning during his weekly interview on 93.7 The Fan if it was a look of disgust and the quarterback then tried to explain why that was.

“If my face gave disgust, I don’t think it was disgust, I think it was more shock,” Roethlisberger explained. “That particular play, and I don’t have a problem telling what happened on that because him and I talked about it on the sideline right afterwards. And so, I’m not saying anything that I haven’t talked to him about so there’s no surprises here.”

Roethlisberger then proceeded to give a lengthy description of why that deep pass to Bryant was called and why he believes the wide receiver looked like he didn’t make much of an effort to catch the football.

“On that particular play, it was a pass-run option,” started Roethlisberger. “If they [the Bengals defense] gave us a two-high safety [look], any kind of two-high safety, we’re supposed to run the ball and if they went to a single-high [safety look], I check to it and we go to a pass, to a deep play for him [Bryant]. In the huddle, I was pretty sure that they were going to stay in kind of a two-high, but a quarters-look, with the safeties about 10 to 12 yards and I told Tey [Martavis], I said, ‘Hey, be ready, I’m coming to you. If they stay in this quarters, I know we’re supposed to run it, but I’m taking a shot. Like it’s time that we go up top.’

“And so, we came out and they gave me the quarters look, which says I’m supposed to run it, but it’s still a decent look for a deep pass. We had a good protection and what happened on the play is, Martavis, he’s supposed to look back at about 10 to 12 yards and see me throw the ball. That’s the whole point of the play is if he can see the ball out of my hands, he can track it and get under it and make a play, adjust, do whatever needs to happen. And when we looked at the pictures on the sideline, he hadn’t looked until about 25 yards. So, at that point, he never saw the ball out my hand and I don’t think he ever saw the ball in the air.”

Roethlisberger continued.

“So, it ends up looking like a poor effort play, when really, it’s just that little detail of looking a little sooner because like I said, we got the protection, I put it out there for him, I knew he was going to run under it and he just didn’t see it out of my hand. And so, I don’t want to call him out for lack of effort, I think it’s just a lack of that little detail keeps us from having a touchdown, because that’s a touchdown. If he finds the ball out of my hand, there’s no doubt in my mind it’s a touchdown. I think that’s the look I had, it’s more like oh man, we just talked about this. Like I thought we had it, more like shock and awe than anything.”

So, there you go. Roethlisberger thinks that Bryant’s lack of attention to detail caused him to be unable to track the deep pass in the air and that’s why he seemed to be disgusted after the football fell incomplete.

In case you’re curious, Roethlisberger has thrown 15 deep passes to Bryant in the team’s first seven games of the season and the wide receiver has caught just three of them for 87 yards. It’s worth noting, however, that one of those incompleted passes drew a pass interference call that netted 49 yards and that play happened in Week 2 against the Minnesota Vikings.

Sunday night the Steelers will play the Detroit Lions on the road and their defense has only given up 15 deep pass completions in the team’s first six games of the season. Additionally, only six of those completed deep passes against the Lions defense were caught by wide receivers.

  • Dan

    Ben’s right: at the NFL level it can take extraordinary effort to get down the field. Though I don’t think that was a particularly well thrown ball, a QB does have to see great effort in practice and in games; herein lies the problem.
    Ben’s wrong: If you don’t want to call a guy out for lack of effort, then don’t.

  • Matthew

    Why don’t I believe This? Why do i feel like Ben is just covering for MB?

  • SwagDaddy330

    So, MB is whining about not being involved and when there is an effort to involve him he screws up.

    Got it.

  • SwagDaddy330

    I think it’s pretty clear that Ben said MB screwed up the play by not looking back to see the ball out of his hand.

  • EdJHJr

    Well he was well covered, hard to say ball was well to his left. He definitely didn’t have space. Maybe mb thought since he was covered, no throw.

    Blows my theory on always forcing ball to Brown.

    New theory , he just forces it to everyone too often

  • capehouse

    Would he have even beat WJ3 if he had tracked the ball? Bengals look set with him. He’s for real. Not sure how Bryant waits 25 yards to look back at the ball after being told to be ready.

  • David Henderson

    Trade him to Cleveland with Coates!!

  • Matthew

    Obviously. But Ben makes it out to be a miscommunication/error in the route rather than a lack of effort. I don’t fully believe that lack of effort had nothing to do with it.

  • Sam Clonch

    Could he explain his “O” face after Tomlin’s challenge too, lol?

  • Intense Camel

    That throw lmao

  • NYCSteelCurtain

    Eh, I don’t know Ben is being pretty clear here. It does look like Martavis didn’t see it.

  • NYCSteelCurtain

    It was a good look. Not a force, had the potential. MB had him beat. No qualms with it.

  • treeher

    Ball thrown to sideline, Bryant had position if he had tracked the ball.

  • Bill

    Marty eased off the gas running as well. Not on the details. that was a catch-able ball. He might have been able to hi-point.

  • Bill

    Kind of disagree. He needs the chide. How can he not look for the ball? He was lost on the route.

  • David LaVeck

    Thank you for writing about this, this was he one play that I didn’t understand. It makes some sense now.

    He had to know that he looked bad on this play esp when calling for the ball and the ball was close.

    Truth: Ben had this look because of the detail missed not the effort, that is where the play was blown. To add, I also think Martavis assumed the ball wasn’t coming his way and gave up but then why was he right there? I think he found out to late the play was to him. It is on MB either way.

    Please don’t ask for the ball and then not be ready for it, you look like a fool.

  • lyke skywalker

    MB was better when playing high.

  • Delboka

    No effort made 🍼

  • Joe6606

    What I’d like to see, is an in depth article discussing whether or not Bryant has been open and Ben has not thrown it to him. Wish I had all 22 access

  • Big Joe

    But I believe the focused point he’s making is the one many of us gave been seeing and noting ourselves in that MB is trying out on the field but that his detail in route running is clear on film and may be a solid contributing factor in why he isn’t consistently getting open or creating space. AB and JJSS and even Rogers show that attention to detail. To be great, he must be great st all aspects of the WR position, not just on his physical talent and potential. I’m looking forward to him regaining that detail and lighting things up.

  • Intense Camel

    He wasn’t lost. He ran in a straight line and the ball came nowhere near him. First mistake is that Ben threw to the outside shoulder where the DB was when MB had clearly beaten the db inside. At that point he could only be thinking “this is a TD” and then the throw comes behind his back shoulder? Yea I know receivers have to adjust to the ball, but that catch wouldn’t have been easy at all. At some point the QB needs to help them. He had the db beat. As a receiver with a hof qb you expect your QB to hit you when you’re that open. Ben is seemingly just chucking it as far as he can and hoping for the best.

  • Intense Camel

    He’s been open. ALOT.

  • Intense Camel

    If he tracked the ball it would have been a pick or incommpletion

  • Big Joe

    The ball was over his outside shoulder about 2-3 yards away. He was too far inside because he didn’t locate the ball. He would have had to move closer to sideline to get into position for a high point try

  • Beaver Falls Hosiery

    That’s the whole point of looking back after 10-12 yards to see the release. You can track; the DB can’t.

  • Gloria Burke

    Trust, in MB’s case, must be earned not given freely, obviously. Effort is an intangible. One second of indecision on Ben’s part could change the whole play. But I do give MB cudo’s for his blocking on the LB run down the sideline.

  • Big Joe

    While I grant you that the ball was thrown over outside shoulder, let’s not infer that MB knew where it was. He clearly didn’t as he was shocked at the plays end that the ball was near him. I noted that each time I watched the play. Thankfully, the CB was watching MB instead of the ball.

  • Intense Camel

    He threw the ball where the DB was, not MB. That’s my point. MB was in front already, if he tracked the ball it would have only put the DB in better position to make a play since he was playing man to man. MB was late to locate yea but I’m sure in that scenario he expected the ball to be out in front since there was nobody there.

  • StolenUpVotes

    What about it? If Marty finds it as it comes out of Ben’s hands it’s a completion

  • StolenUpVotes

    No

  • francesco

    So in other words it was a poorly thrown ball or MB would have had to make a miracle catch. And then you have CWentz yesterday that throws it long in stride perfectly to his receiver for aTD. There is the difference.

  • Intense Camel

    Yes

  • francesco

    Why not tell MB that the throw would be near the sidelines?

  • Intense Camel

    No, it’s likely an incompletion or a pick.

  • francesco

    Go see how CWentz plays QB in yesterday’s game against the Redskins. Night and day compared to Ben. It takes two to tango.

  • WilliamSekinger

    Ah like the long ball that Martavis tracked right into his outstretch hands…then dropped earlier in the season?

  • WilliamSekinger

    Bryant is the tallest and supposedly most physical receiver they have. He’s paid to make these type of catches even if they are contested.

  • francesco

    Everyone agreed that the throw went a bit too far. Unless you feel they have to dive after it going 30 miles fast

  • WilliamSekinger

    Why not just go out and catch it for him?

  • francesco

    Why not tell Ben if you are not going to throw it right don’t bother throwing it at all.

  • WilliamSekinger

    Hit him in the hands and he dropped it. BTW, it wouldn’t have hurt for him to lay out if that would have helped him catch it. Is he afraid to lay out for the football now too?

  • francesco

    You are referring to Coates.

  • 太阳三联

    I’ve had my best games of backyard football/tournaments stoned cold like steve Austin. I feel like a lot peoples problems is they over think whereas when high you think about things like ahaha I cared about that that much it’s distracting me?!?! You kinda clear your mind but everyone is very different, I know people who go borderline retarded when they smoke.

  • 6 ring circus

    Great synopsis, Ben. On point.

  • hdogg48

    Ben seems like he’s lost a LOT on his deep ball accuracy
    over the years.

    I remember him beating the Pats as rookie with an early deep
    ball to Burress.

    In his first SB winning season he was money with the duo
    of Sanders and Wallace.

    In our last SB winning season he made everyone pay by
    hitting Holmes on big play after big play.

    I think the reason that he and MB haven’t clicked is
    a combination of Ben’s accuracy and Bryant’s dimenishment of speed.

  • Big Joe

    Im not sure what game footage you have beyond game coverage. If you do, great! From the game footage I’ve watched several times now, both this week and last week, he hasn’t been. On a few plays where he was, Ben was looking to another part of the field via his progressions. Same happened to AB whether by pressure or play design. However, he has not been open A LOT from what I can see but game coverage and replays are limiting. The all 22 footage will show what we’d like to see

  • Big Joe

    Absolutely. He’s doing great in several facets of his game.

  • Kevin Reich

    Dont see how someone could call it a lack of effort. Couldn’t find it. Not a great throw.

  • Dan

    It’s really something that needs coordinated beforehand, but the receiver is responsible to track the ball. If the sun was in his eyes or if Ben was off target, may not have been all one person’s fault. As a generalization it seems Ben’s accuracy is not at it’s peak these days. Could be AB is covering a bit of the QB shortcomings, hence all his targets.

  • PA2AK_

    Yeah no way you can rely on a little WR like Bryant to come down with that ball. Especially when he looks for it at the 20…most likely because of the ‘ball’ calls from everyone else around him that knew it was in the air. CB is players by catch up. WR looks for the ball two steps before it hits the ground. Why stop the blame with Ben…really this prob goes back to Cowher…he drafted him.

  • Bob Loblaw

    Holmes and Burress were both better at going up and getting the ball than Bryant is. Bryant can get open easier, but if it’s getting contested much he doesn’t have that innate skill of focusing on the catch amid distraction that the other two had. And obviously nothing campared to Brown’s nack for it, who is probably the best I’ve seen in that regard.

  • pcantidote

    Neither Sanders or Wallace were on the first SB team.

  • paltel

    DWTS gives MB & Ben poor scores on their Tango.

  • George Hareras

    Or you know MB can do that turn and jump thing receivers tend to do. High point it

  • George Hareras

    You kinda suck

  • George Hareras

    I don’t agree. MB did slow down a bit on the route or he could have dove for it

  • George Hareras

    Man has Coates done anything this year?

  • SwagDaddy330

    Apples & oranges my man

    But since you brought it up…. their rating was about the same and considering that fact…. I’d say Ben had a better game vs Cincy than Wentz did vs Washington.

    Cincy is the NFL’s #2 defense vs the pass and Washington is #14.

  • Zombie Nixon

    They should have run it…

  • Intense Camel

    Or you know Ben can do that throw an accurate pass thing Qbs tend to do. Hit him in stride.

  • Intense Camel

    I’m not placing blame, I’m being objective. That wasn’t all on MB.

  • Big Joe

    So, in other words MB should have done his job as a WR and looked for the ball like he was supposed to then adjusted to the throw like a WR is supposed to. If you or he believe that every ball is going o be thrown perfectly, especially to one who isn’t looking for it to begin with, then I would recommend you find another job as it would be clear to everyone, including your coaches and teammates, that you want everything to come to you without having to do anything along the way but run in a straight line.

  • Romel Roze

    Who tf starts looking back on a fly route after 10 to 12 yards to “track” the ball when you are throwing it about 50 yards downfield. Really Ben…LMAO.

    Although the pass was off target MB needed to do a better job tracking the ball. He made little effort to track it…however and there is a however!!

    Maybe MB was shocked the pass was actually thrown….because based on Ben’s explanation, he should have ran the damn ball based on the defense he saw.

  • NinjaMountie

    If the explanation is how Ben described, and there is no reason to believe it isn’t, then it’s not on Ben.

  • NinjaMountie

    “Who tf starts looking back on a fly route after 10 to 12 yards to “track” the ball when you are throwing it about 50 yards downfield.”
    Are you even serious? I guess WRs just use telepathy to figure out where the ball is going.
    C’mon man

  • NinjaMountie

    I love it! Ben gives a perfect explanation about a certain play and why it didn’t work and everyone is talking about how Ben sucks. It’s always the same people complaining, too. They just need to form their own I Hate Ben chat room.

  • Crashcrash777

    If you like CWentz so much then why don’t you just become an Eagles fan geez

  • Bradshaw

    A couple things we learned…
    1) Ben went out of his way to get MB the ball when it should have gone to Bell.
    2) The Steelers execute the plays that the D gives them. If MB doesn’t like how often he is getting the ball, he should be asking the DC on the opposing team to run a defensive front that will result in more passing.
    3) MB is still rusty and needs to accept it might be a few more games before he is back to his usual form.

  • Romel Roze

    Are you serious!! You look back that quickly when going against press man to man and you beat your man of the LOS quickly.

    Most WRs do not LOOK back to track the ball that quickly on deep fly routes. The coverage will dictate everyting. If a CB is playing 5 to 10 yards of and starts his back peddal as the Wr approaches, the WR may not even get up on the CB until they are 15 yards downfiend.
    The Wr might not start to look back until he is 20 yards downfield. Those are fly routes and on deep post routes he may not hit the post until he is 25 yards downfield then he starts trying to track the ball. Dude the fact that you even responded with that nonsense tells me you and Ben suffered too many concussions.

  • Intense Camel

    He threw the ball

  • NinjaMountie

    Did you read the whole thing?
    We aren’t talking about your go route. We aren’t talking about your post. We aren’t talking about YOUR anything. We ARE talking about a SPECIFIC play that is run by the Pittsburgh Steelers and on this play the QB said, “That’s the whole point of the play is if he can see the ball out of my hands…”
    So, why are you having a hard time believing Ben and his explanation? Is it because you don’t like him or because you think you know better?

  • NinjaMountie

    Ben threw the int a couple games ago when AB admittedly stopped early on a route. That wasn’t on Ben either.

  • Steeler Nation!

    He doesn’t like him…but he knows NOTHING!

  • Zarbor

    Clearly as Ben stated, MB didn’t get the details and botched the play. I believe if MB did get the details he could have made a play on the ball. However, that was not a TD because it wasn’t a great throw.

    Even more ridiculous is Ben calling a guy out….again. He’s a poor leader and just doesn’t get it. Tomlin is saying one thing on how you keep those convo in house and between men. Ben is doing the opposite.

  • Kyle MacDougall

    I get Ben is no where near what he was but he still has no problem finding AB who by the way is 200 yards ahead of the next receiver league wide. Martavis is clearly a problem and a me first player… if I was Ken Colbert I’d trade him to the Brown’s for Coates. MB deserves nothing more than that, he’ll be lucky to get table scraps come resign time. Serves the guy right for bad mouthing a 20 year old kid publicly after a game JuJu should be proud of.

  • mrallnite111 .

    1st of all it’s Kevin Colbert, secondly you would be fired shortly after… Now the real culprit is Benny.

  • mrallnite111 .

    He has 8 of them so far. ( in 7 games )

  • kakello34

    MB could have had “mines” on that play.

  • will

    Exactly

  • capehouse

    Ummm professional WRs do?

  • walter

    ‘Hey, be ready, I’m coming to you. If they stay in this quarters, I know we’re supposed to run it, but I’m taking a shot. Like it’s time that we go up top.’ Wow what is wrong with MB? I dont think Ben could have been any clearer that the ball was coming to him.

  • walter

    ‘Hey, be ready, I’m coming to you. If they stay in this quarters, I know we’re supposed to run it, but I’m taking a shot. Like it’s time that we go up top.’ How could MB be shocked the pass was actually thrown?

  • Carl Mendelius

    The Steelers are so pathetic in the red zone that excluding MB from the play book is just plain stupid. MB has enormous talent and only needs coaching but Haley is like Carnell Lake with the secondary: not good enough. Haley and Lake should have been fired long time ago. The talent of MB is unquestionable.

  • Michael James

    No, he hasn’t been open a lot. He isn’t any magician that gets open more so than other WRs on the team. Actually he gets thrown to most of the time when he’s open, he just fails to seize those opportunities by not tracking the ball (e.g. against Cincy) or having a bad drop (e.g. against Chicago).

  • NinjaMountie

    Yuuup! Is that supposed to be a point? It’s completely irrelevant to the subject at hand. It really wouldn’t matter if he had 15 in two games, it still doesn’t make this his fault.

  • francesco

    +1000

  • francesco

    How about being more specific? Like telling him i will throw towards the sidelines or the middle of the field? How about throwing it so it bounces off his head and not 10 ft somewhere else?

  • francesco

    Ben finds AB because that’s his first read. And what exactly did MB say that was so offensive? All he said is that with my body of work and JuJu still being a rookie that I am a better player.
    You should have stopped at..Ben is nowhere near what he was and we can both agree.

  • Bill

    That’s a bit absurd. Football isn’t running a straight line. Ben
    gave him a chance to make a play. Trusted him. The guy never found the
    ball.

    He never adjusted to it. If he looks at Ben like he said he takes a better route to the ball.

  • Intense Camel

    Nonsense, I guarantee he’s been open more than any receiver not named AB. The majority of the time the ball has been thrown to him the passes were off. Show me one drop of his that came after a perfect throw.

  • Intense Camel

    MB didn’t stop.

  • francesco

    CWentz is just one example. I could have named 10 others. The fact of the matter is that Ben does not have it any more. I try not to be blinded by my black and gold glasses.

  • Intense Camel

    How about the QB throw the ball where the open receiver is running? There was no reason to throw to his back shoulder when there was no defender in front of him. That’s a layup for a hof QB, should have been an easy TD. There was no pressure in Ben’s face either so there’s no excuse for a poor throw. Yea MB has work to do, but Ben simply needs to be more accurate or it’ll be Jacksonville all over again.

  • Romel Roze

    Ok, first of all Ben has a history of making stuff up. He is not the most credible person. The pass play was a deep fly route, that is the play we are talking about. I have to go back and watch the play again, because Ben explanation makes it seem as if the safeties were playing shallow to the LOS, about 12 yards. If The safeties are 12 yards off the LOS why would MB start looking back that quickly when at 12 yards he is just even with the safety and that’s if the Safety did not start to drift back in to coverage. If he wants MB to look back that early, that means the CB is playing press man and Ben wants MB to get off the LOS quick beating the CB so he can hit him quickly before the safety comes over. You don’t track a bomb within the first 10-12 yards. He is FOS!

  • Conserv_58

    I see Dave singled out what I eluded to yesterday about the look on Ben’s face after that play. Ben’s giving us the low down on how he and Martavis talked about the play and then seeing how Martavis went about executing his responsibility only confirms what has been said in here several times. That being, Martavis is not giving 100% on every play. As it relates to the play thay Ben referred to, it seems that the tight coverage on Martavis caused him to prematurely give up on the play even though he had a step on the defender. The video clearly shows he never looked back toward the ball nor made any attempt to go up after it. If anything, his effort could at least have resulted in the defender getting an interference penalty.

  • Romel Roze

    Lmao…ok

    Your assignment is to watch a game and when a WR goes deep, tell us the coverage being played and when the WR starts tracking the ball. Tell me how many professional WRs start tracking the football on a deep fly route within 10-12 yards.

  • Conserv_58

    How about Martavis show some effort to make the play instead of giving up on it? How about he turn his stupid head to look back toward the ball? By doing so he would have been able to run to where the ball was.

  • Romel Roze

    Because Ben is FOS. He makes up stuff. I WOULD like anyone in the huddle to confirm Ben said this shiiii. I am pretty sure he broke it down to MB just like that in the huddle. He explained the coverage and what was suppose to happen, and this and that to MB etc etc., in the huddle. Yeah right.

    Why don’t we hear Brady say stuff like this about his teammates….oh yeah, because only Ben says stuff like this. This guy has diarrhea of the mouth. He will join Toney Romo in the booth because he loves to talk.

  • Steven Vincent

    Looking back at the QB for the ball at 10-12 yards is Go route 101. So basic. If he’s not doing it he needs to be benched for someone who will. Not doing so says that he does not expect the ball and he’s not really running the route, just going through the motions.

  • Conserv_58

    Meh. Watch his blocking previous to that play and you will see Martavis giving little effort.

  • NinjaMountie

    I didn’t say he did. Are you going to start making any kind of sense any time soon or is this just how you are?

  • NinjaMountie

    And now we know, you’re just a hater. Any minuscule amount of credibility you may have possessed has now been permanently lost. Congrats!
    Just go play with your little friends in your I Hate Ben club.

  • Intense Camel

    You’re not making any sense because you don’t even comprehend what I’m saying. It’s not all on MB or Ben. They both share blame.

  • Conserv_58

    Since Ben said that he talked with Martavis about that play before they took the field there is no excuse for Martavis to think that he would not get the ball.

  • NinjaMountie

    I’m talking about a particular play. On this particular play, no Ben does not share any blame. If his explanation is factual, and there is no reason to believe it isn’t, this is obvious.

  • Crashcrash777

    Ben does still have it. His passes the last few games have been very accurate. I can’t stand fans like you. You only focus on the negative and not the positive. You always think what you have isn’t good enough and you won’t truly appreciate Ben until he’s gone. Then you’ll know what a quarterback who doesn’t have it plays like.

  • Intense Camel

    He does, not only on this play, but the entire season. It was a poor throw. MB didn’t locate the ball. End of story.

  • Romel Roze

    You are the one that says Ben is working to get better like you know him. That is you speculating. I know for a fact that he takes off practice all the time and runs his .out on his radio shiw….that is all factual. What you said is not.

    I am not in Ben’s azz like you, so it has zero to do with me liking him or not liking him. It has everything with him talking shii and calling out other players performance when he needs to STFU and worry about his own game. How about he go to the eye doctor to correct his vision because he cannot see the entire field.

    How about he use all of the weapons he has on the team and stop having tunnel vision. We can be on the opponents 5 yard like with MB one on one with a 5-9 CB and instead if throwing a fade/jump ball to MB he will force a pass to AB in double coverage. This guy lives in a glass house but loves to throw stones.

  • NinjaMountie

    Here is the thing, Romel. I played Safety in college. I still am not going to say that I know what the intricacies of their play are. I’m not going to say, as you are, that just because it doesn’t happen a lot doesn’t mean it wasn’t supposed to happen there.
    IT’S THEIR PLAY! YOU don’t know it. Get it???
    Your whole philosophy is based on your dislike for Ben and your belief that he’s always making stuff up! Great call! Wow.

  • NinjaMountie

    I’m not talking about the whole season. I’m talking about one play. You seem to be unable to separate the two. That’s your problem. End of story.

  • Conserv_58

    Since you guarantee he’s been open? Where is your proof? Of the games I’ve been able to see I’ve seen Martavis round off routes, especially if he knew the ball wasn’t coming his way. I watched him put in half baked effort in blocking, not getting good enough separation that would cause Ben to go to him and he has shown that he doesn’t track the ball well in tight coverage. Martavis’ laid back and soft spoken personality a the key reason why he doesn’t fight for contested balls either.

  • Intense Camel

    I’m not talking about the whole season either…obviously. I’m just informing you that bad throws like that have not been an outlier for Ben this year.

  • NinjaMountie

    Wow, the hate runs deep. You claiming you don’t only makes it more obvious. Credibility getting even more shot if that’s at all possible.
    hahahaaha….wow!

  • Conserv_58

    Comparing Wentz in his second season to 35 year old Ben is patently unfair. Ben certainly showed that he’s still got it during the bengals’ game.

  • NinjaMountie

    I’m not saying they haven’t, either. I’m saying on this play that wasn’t the problem. Again….why bring up the whole season? Every pass he has thrown up until that point could have been ints and it’s still not relevant to that throw.

  • popsiclesticks

    I usually agree on the critiques coming from Ben but with everybody crushing Bryant for the effort, I don’t think this is that bad a thing for him to say in this case.

  • popsiclesticks

    They won’t be #2 after a few more weeks. They had played pretty bad offenses and a sputtering Houston team before last week.

  • Intense Camel

    The proof is in what I’ve seen. And what I’ve seen is a WR consistently beat his man and a QB consistently throw wildly inaccurate passes his way or no passes at all.

  • francesco

    Ben is good at avoiding sacks. There I said something positive. I appreciated Ben up until when we lost to Green Bay in the Superbowl.

  • Conserv_58

    Of course it was too far, but the video proves, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that Martavis also slowed down as the ball was approaching him. Furthermore, he never looked back toward the ball. Had he done so before he slowed down he had a much greater chance to adjust his route. In addidtion, even if he didn’t make the catch there was a high probability that the defender would have been called for interference. The intereference call would have been just as good as making the catch at moving the chains.

  • Conserv_58

    That’s just lame.

  • Conserv_58

    There is also the high probability that a defensive pass interference would have been called, thus accomplishing the same result as if the catch was made.

  • francesco

    I believe MB lost track of the ball once in the air. Not sure if the lights had some effect on this.

  • Conserv_58

    and Martavis never looked back for the ball as he was slowing down because he gave up on the route.

  • Conserv_58

    Now you’re talking out both sides of your mouth.

  • Intense Camel

    It was part of the problem. The throw was nowhere near where he was headed, there was no coverage over the top, should have been an easy pitch and catch TD. Even if MB manage to catch that ball it wouldn’t have been a TD. That’s on the QB. Take off your homer’s. If you fail to see how bad of a throw that was then you probably still believe Ben is playing at an elite level lol.

  • Intense Camel

    Except it should have been an easy TD…

  • Conserv_58

    No. It’s not the end of the story because you’re dead wrong. What about, MB never looked back toward the ball and slowed down on that play don’t you understand?

  • Intense Camel

    What part of the 15 year Hof QB needs to make an accurate throw don’t you understand?

  • Conserv_58

    Could you be any more lame?

  • Intense Camel

    Truth hurts

  • Conserv_58

    What about the fact that you’re being absolutely unrealistic and overly critical don’t you understand?!

  • Conserv_58

    For you.

  • Conserv_58

    LMAO!

  • Intense Camel

    He did look back for the ball, unfortunately it was thrown so far off his route that he couldn’t locate it.

  • Intense Camel

    LMAO!!!

  • Intense Camel

    A hof QB making an accurate throw to a wide open receiver downfield is unrealistic??

    Boy the standard for Ben sure isn’t very high anymore.

  • Intense Camel

    Yup, people here want to ignore that reality.

  • Grimm Reaper

    So I’d have to lay blame at both Ben and MB. Ben’s accuracy this season, especially with the deep ball, has been off. And it’s obvious that Martavis is making excuses for his lack of production. I’ve watched Martavis this whole season not run his routes 100% at times. When he knows he’s being used as a decoy, his effort in his route running lacks. He is not a team player. He’s immature and is only worried about his stats. As for Ben, it’s Ben being Ben. Drama, drama, drama.

  • Intense Camel

    Stop making sense please

  • Romel Roze

    I don’t need to know the intricacies of “their play”. I know the principles concepts and timing involved with pass plays/ WR routes.

    We know it was a deep pass, not a quick pass, so Ben has to take, more than likely, a 7 step drop. By the time he takes his drop and is set to throw the ball, MB is way past the 12 yard mark. So, what Ben is saying goes against logic.

    MB will start to look for the ball based on the rhythm of the route design and QB drop. I have to go back and watch the play again, but I can say eith a level of confidences, that Ben did not release the ball when MB was 10-12 yards down field. It defies logic and football 101. If you played ball I SHOULD NOT have to explain this to YOU of all people. Ben is FOS.

  • Bill

    Ben threw it when he was 15 yards off the line…that’s on MB. The safety is coming from the middle..you throw to the sideline. Get off you agenda. Open your eyes.

  • Intense Camel

    Throw to sideline when it’s an easy TD? The safety was nowhere near him, sorry.

  • Michael James

    The dropped TD in Chicago is a catch that every respectable WR has to make.

  • Intense Camel

    Lol that’s what you call a perfect throw?

  • SwagDaddy330

    Spin it how you wish.

  • NinjaMountie

    LMAO, the only person FOS here is you. You’re one of those “know everything” people. If you had played ball at any level above middle school you’d know that timing is play dependent. Wait….I know…you’re right! There is absolutely know way a professional football team would dare change the standard way things are done. Nope….never happen. I hope you understand sarcasm.
    I’m done with you. You’re just another one of those armchair QBs that think they know everything. Worse, you’re one with an agenda. Go away. You aren’t fooling anyone. Bye.

  • Bill

    All 50 yard throws are easy TD’s. I forgot. Your agenda reeks Camel. Your football knowledge is very circumspect. Your beating a dead camel and flip-flopping at the same time. Impressive.

  • popsiclesticks

    I do often depend too much on “things that actually happened”. If their defense is still ranked #2 or #3 or whatever in a month, I’m wrong. But when it’s not, you’ll probably forget.

  • Intense Camel

    For a professional 15 year hof QB with no pressure and an open receiver yes it’s easy. This isn’t high school. His deep ball is severely lacking this year. If you’ve been watching and you deny this then you have no football knowledge.

  • Michael James

    It’s a ball that sombody like Bryant has to catch. Simple as that. Was it picture perfect? No, but it was easily good enough. WRs are paid to make those catches (very catchable, but not picture-perfect throws) and not just haul in perfectly thrown balls (which are rare anyway).

  • Intense Camel

    That’s not what I asked. I said show me a perfect throw in which he dropped. It was not good enough or else there would be no need to fully extend just to touch it. Not perfect by any stretch of the imagination.

  • walter

    Its hard to believe he is lying because if he is making things up, he would lose the trust of his teammates and he couldnt possibly function as a QB or a team leader. Hey btw your boy Golson should be healthy by now but nobody wants him. What happened?

  • Crashcrash777

    SMH you’ll learn one day

  • capehouse

    No offense, Romel, but if Ben says he should’ve looked back at 10-12 yards I’m gonna believe him over whoever you think you are, ok?

  • Romel Roze

    Dude, you’re an idiot. I wasn’t even going to respond to you again because it’s clear your lack of knowledge for the game is not even worth my time. The standard way of doing things is basic speed vs distance calculatios and where a player would be in a given time i.e. QB drop back. But your little mind can’t comprehend physics. I don’t care how they changed a play, the fact is MB is running at a certain speed in a straight line dumb dumb and he will be at a certain distance in a specific amount of time. You just are to dumb to understand this.

    As far as me trying to fool people or needing some type of approval from you or anyone else here is a joke and it lets me know that you are nothing but a poor sheep seeking the approval of people you don’t know. Pathetic. Now you can go because you are dismissed.

  • Sam Clonch

    There once was a QB from Nantucket…..

  • francesco

    There are people on this site where Ben can do no wrong. He can throw 6 interceptions and they will blame the ball.

  • Romel Roze

    You can believe whatever you want to believe. I don’t care if you believe the planet is flat or if you do not believe in gravity.

  • StolenUpVotes

    Nope

  • Obi Ryn Denobi

    He’s throwing the ball to a spot on the field he hopes Martavis can get to in the 3-4 complete seconds it’s going to take the ball to get that far down field, IF Martavis sees it, adjusts and tracks it right to the spot only he has the athleticism to reach. AB just makes it look easy and QB looks good.

    It’s why he gets so goddamn many balls thrown his way, even when he’s doubled. And sideline balls thrown to outside shoulder DON’T get picked off, inside shoulder — DO! NFL wide receivers are paid to make that catch only he can reach. AB makes it look easy and QB looks good.

    It’s what makes AB, AB — all the little sh*t that makes it look easy! And what Bryant still needs to learn.

  • Intense Camel

    The corner was on the outside. There wasn’t a soul inside. Throw was bad, should have been toward the endzone, not the sidelines.

  • NinjaMountie

    I wish you hadn’t responded. I wouldn’t have had to be exposed to your ignorance again.
    Physics! Lol, you better work on reading comprehension before you try your luck with that.
    I don’t claim to know everything about the game. I do know enough to know that a play can be drawn up any way a person wants. Shoot, I’ve seen it done. The fact that you think you know more than an NFL QB tells everyone all they need to know about you and that is that you’re a delusional fool.
    Dismiss me all you like because you’ve already been dismissed by everyone else.
    Feel free to tell me again how you know better than everyone else. Or feel free to say nothing. My money is on you’ll run your mouth some more.
    I’m out either way, so the pulpit is yours. Have a good life.

  • Work Toward

    Ben is full of shift… And Steeler Depot can’t afford to examine or endorse it.

  • Work Toward

    Yeah Yeah Yeah… Ben escapism.

  • PA2AK_

    I can agree with that, but I can’t complain about the throw really. Not when the wr doesn’t turn to look for the ball until two steps before it hits the ground. No reason to think he couldn’t have run under that if he wasn’t thinking about his next twitter complaint.

  • Romel Roze

    Lmao….the village idiot speaks for everyone again. The sheep without his Shepard wondering in the desert is a terrible thing. I dismissed you, but yet here you are again. No, you said bye, but couldn’t resist the urge to come back to talk more BS. FYI I know enough to question a DOCTOR when they tell me something that doesn’t make sense and they correct their mistake and I certainly know enough to correct a QB that says MB SHOULD look back for the ball after 10 yards on a fly ROUTE that he has thrown 50 yards downfield. MB speed will probably have him 20 yards down field by the time Ben has released the ball to get it at that distance. If MB wants to lose speed and look back too damn early, and not separate from the DB then the QB shouldn’t throw the damn ball when he is covered. We know he ain’t throwing MB jump balls or you WOULD see it in the redzone….lol. That is why they practice to get the timming down. MB knows he has to get open and look back for the ball at a certain distance based on his route. Idiots like you are who politicians look for, a moron that believes anything because they are too stulid to know any better. Just STFU because you are an idiot that ain’t saying shiii. Now run away little boy and go play with your GI Joe.