Steelers Vs Ravens Winners/Losers

Wild win. Baltimore, Pittsburgh. Ravens, Steelers. It doesn’t get a lot better than that.

Especially when you win.

WINNERS

Antonio Brown: I don’t think it needs to be said or written anymore. He just shows up each week. Literally, I’ve run out of things to write about him. No one creates space at the top of the route like him, no one has the catch radius he has, few are as good after the catch as him.

Give him the Gold Jacket right now.

Le’Veon Bell: Bell didn’t have gaudy numbers in the run game, partially because the Steelers just didn’t run it much. But Bell showed his power, played through a knee injury, and was a constant source of checkdown relief for Ben Roethlisberger. Three total touchdowns. Excellent.

Ben Roethlisberger: Big Ben may have been a hair shy of perfect but he was as good as ever in the clutch. Those deep balls to AB were gorgeous and Roethlisberger spread the love around. He finished with career highs in completions and attempts. Playing out of his mind.

Chris Boswell: Get all the Killer B’s in there. Boswell was tremendous as always, highlighted by the go-ahead 46 yarder. Another came from 52, giving him a pair from 50+ yards this season. And his kickoffs were great.

Jesse James: We’ve given James a hard time this year. But man, he had the game of his life. 10 receptions, 97 yards, each career highs by longshots. And some clutch catches over the middle, none bigger than what he did on third down early on the Steelers’ final drive. Put it simply – he was great. I bet Heath Miller is beaming.

Jordan Berry: Gotta give some love to the other specialist, too. Wasn’t as sexy as Boswell but he averaged 47 yards per punt and his directional kicking was excellent. Only one return, which went for zero yards. Kudos.

Roosevelt Nix: ROSIE! I love me some Rosie and tonight, he made the biggest play of his NFL career. His first catch of the season and first career touchdown, a grown man’s play to wrestle the ball away in the end zone. He kicked things off with a special teams tackle and I saw him pancake a dude on a kick return. He’s the man.

Chris Hubbard: Terrell Suggs did pick up a sack but I don’t know if all the the blame will come on Hubbard for it. Hubbard otherwise was excellent and his drive block on Tim Williams on Bell’s rushing TD was a thing of beauty. Hubbard continues to step up and honestly, make most of Steelers’ Nation forget about Marcus Gilbert.

I thought the whole line did a really good job to give Ben time. But Hubbard deserves extra praise for the difficult matchup and his Grade A performance.

T.J. Watt: No, the Steelers’ pass rush wasn’t as pretty as it could’ve/should’ve been. But Watt was consistently the guy closest to Joe Flacco and made the defensive play of the game in an outing where few of those existed. His effort and chase to the ball was on display, coming from across the field to run Flacco down and knock the ball out, ending the game.

LOSERS

Sean Davis: Yeah, we’re going to see a lot of the defense on here. Davis started things off with a boon, picking off Flacco on the opening possession. It was all downhill from there. Penalties, missed tackles, poor coverage, it was literally a game sponsored by Murphy’s Law. The Ravens’ first TD was squarely on his shoulders.

Bud Dupree: Check out Dupree’s stats from tonight.

1 tackle.

That’s it.

That tackle, by the way, came with 37 seconds left in the game on a 14 yard completion to Mike Wallace.

Dupree has to be better. He was invisible tonight.

Tackling: I specified Davis for the penalties and coverage but tackling was bad across the board tonight. Didn’t matter if you were Davis, Mike Mitchell, Sean Spence, whoever. Josh Carney’s missed tackles report is going to be…lengthy, to say the least. I don’t know where to begin with this mess.

Really, you can lump a large chunk of the front seven on this list. Spence, Arthur Moats, probably some on Vince Williams too. Alex Collins had his way with the Steelers.

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  • Michael Mosgrove

    burns was definitely a loser tonight. and it might be harsh but so was cam sutton. he whiffed on multiple blocks.

  • JohnB

    11-2!

  • Nunya

    Ben dominated this game. Unlike previous games, Brown didn’t have to make crazy catches. Ben was dropping those balls in his arms, in stride. One of the best games I have seen him play in years, especially since the rest of the wideouts just seemed to get in the way.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Winners: US.

    Losers: THEM.

    *Mic drop

  • Brian Tollini

    What. A. Win. Boswell has been phenomenal.

    I thought Mike Mitchel was particularly bad tonight.

  • JohnB

    BOOM!

  • Jaybird

    LOSER: RAVENS
    Ha ha ha . I hate you bastages!!!!

  • Phil Brenneman II

    I’ll add 2 of my own to the Losers List:

    1. Refs – I don’t normally like to make excuses for the Steelers but man it felt like the refs were really hurting us tonight. That one drive where they called the Davis personal foul and the Burns PI in the same drive just seemed ugly. Almost that entire drive was sponsored by the refs. I know there is some argument that both pentalties were deserved but in a game that close I don’t want any questions that the refs had too much to do with one side winning or losing.

    2. Clock Management – Once again it seemed less than perfect there at the end of the game. Not sure if it is on Haley, Ben, or Tomlin but no way the Ravens should have had that timeout going into their final drive.

  • dany

    It was a bad game for Davis, but he’s been showing up a lot lately. Dupree, it’s a pattern, even with his sack to give them a last chance last week

  • JohnB

    Brown didn’t have to make crazy catches…but he did!

  • Chad Weiss

    You nailed it. I’d add Bryant returning kicks as a loser.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Damn – Ben threw it 66 times times today. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that high of a number. Edit: Apparently a career high.

  • Kevin artis

    The entire defense except watt on the losers list.

  • The Tony

    I’m close to giving Haley the loser list too. Coming out of the half he tried to get cute on the short pass to AB. Then I’m not sure how much Ben was calling at the end but only running bell once and giving time to Baltimore was inexcusable

  • Jacob

    Steelers 19-2 in the last 21 regular season games. They weren’t all pretty but they are playing better than some realize. Finding a way to win is a sign of a championship team.

  • Doug Andrews

    That’s all that matters!

  • Chad Weiss

    Sutton was brutal trying to tackle. Thought burns played good tonight in coverage overall. He’s always been a terrible at tackling

  • Jaybird

    If they ran it twice The Ravens wouldn’t have had the timeout OR any time left after Boz’s FG.

  • Biophys

    Are we allowed to put the officiating crew on the Losers list? I’ve never been one to complain about the refs, but tonight was just terrible.

  • Patrick Donovan

    What does everyone think AB needs a little less than 500 yards to hit the 2000 yard mark will he do it

  • WeWantDaTruth

    What was that throw late in the game as Steelers were driving for game winning FG? Looks like he threw it up for grabs and was almost picked.

  • BlackAndGold97

    Bryant to the losers list…he has so much wasted talent. And please, put someone else back to return kickoffs!

  • Division champs! Bring on the Pats!

  • Jaybird

    All day today the refs were horrible. All day

  • Chris92021

    Losers: Coleman’s crew. My goodness, how AB got flagged for unnecessary roughness was plain idiotic. I am also betting Weddle won’t get suspended for that head shot on Jesse James. Also that PI call on Artie Burns was atrocious.

    Sean Davis was flat out bad tonight. He had the interception and then proceeded to hurt us with missed tackles, penalties, and missed assignments. He might be good coming forward but he’s not so good going backward in coverage.

    I actually hope given how weak we are on the edge that James Harrison gets the start over Dupree for the rest of the way. We found out tonight how valuable Shazier is (here is hoping he gets well and walks out of that hospital soon). Dupree is a freak athlete trying to play football.

    Big Ben has 3 500 yard games in his career. Think about that for a second. My goodness.

    This one is sweeter than most wins because I lost faith tonight. 26, 84, and 7 got it back for me. I am sorry. I am a loser tonight but I am happy to be one. Now we can focus on the Patriots.

  • The Tony

    How’s business?

  • Jason

    Clock management was a loser at the end of both halves

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Yup – poor decision, in my opinion. But, we won, so I’ve moved on.

  • DirtDawg1964

    The Burns penalty was ridiculous. He was the one who got hauled down. How they called that was beyond me. The refs were flat out terrible.

    And yeah, clock management is a mystery. The deep throw on second down was a mystery. Two runs there would have been fine (although I understand Tomlin’s desire to get closer). But if you’re going to pass, make it quick, short throws. Something with a much higher chance of completion.

    And throwing on third down, after the incompletion, was another head scratcher. Unfortunately they had Eli wide open. Just too much pressure.

  • Gizmosteel

    Sour on the D as a whole! Not championship caliber at this time.

  • Jaybird

    Where were you Punk?!!!! What a win . We’re like the 69 Mets- you gotta believe!!!!

  • DirtDawg1964

    Burns played pretty tight coverage and was on the wrong end of some bad calls. I thought he played decent enough. Needs to go to Tackling 101 school though.

  • Rocksolid20

    Agree , he really struggled tonight .

  • I.P. Freeley

    I honestly thought they were paid to effect the spread. The refs are making football unwatchable.

  • Matt Kline

    No, only because he won’t play against Cleveland.

  • Nathaniel Sullivan

    They’re better than the bengals though. lol

  • Rocksolid20

    This board wanted to run Javaris out of town
    for his play , I say the same for Bud . Back to the
    draft board .

  • Chad Weiss

    Clock mgt at end was terrible.Why wouldn’t they call run plays make ravens use time outs and kick fg as time expired? They were lucky Baltimore didn’t drive down for winning kick. Maclins flop killed them

  • Jacob

    Ben said it came from the sidelines

  • My computer took a crap this week, been checking in on the phone but this site has trouble loading with all the ads.

  • steelburg

    Burns is a bad tackler for sure. But they didn’t even really run at him. They run right at Sutton and Dupree all night and like you said Sutton couldn’t get off blocks and he couldn’t tackle. Only the last play of the game they had TJ in the left and Harrison in on the right. Harrison fell down on the play but that needs to be the rotation going forward beacuse Dupree is they guy times are running right at and he isn’t holding up. He isn’t providing pressure and he isn’t setting the edge.

  • GravityWon

    Between the juju suspension & calls tonight it does make you at least stop & think.

  • sixnine

    You do realise Ben audibles to what play he deems appropriate…. he was making good decisions all night so when he makes a bad one we gotta live with it

  • DirtDawg1964

    McDonald was a winner early on. The whole offence deserves a shout out other than MB. He keeps getting opportunities to shine and he keeps looking just so blah out there.

    Not much to love on D. Burns looked better and Davis had some good moments and then some brain numbing bad moments. Watt deserves the winner list. He was close a number of times tonight. Moats, Spence and VW definitely on the loser list. Tough spot for Spence though. Four days of practice after not being on a roster since October. That’s tough.

  • Biophys

    Probably not in the regular season, but possibly in the playoffs.

  • Chad Weiss

    He is what he is and that’s an avg number three wr at best.Terrible route runner,gives up on plays,terrible hands,can’t fight for ball to save his life.

  • APassingFancy

    I thought burns played his best game of the year tonight. He was flat out bullied by the officials. He didn’t look out of position like he has all season.

  • 6 ring circus

    Winner – me. I stayed off the game day thread today. I didn’t have to deal with all the “debbie downers” this week. Dropped too many F bombs last week, decided to chill. I think it was a great decision because this game was a nail biter. No doubt there were plenty of broken legs and ankles jumping off the ol’ wagon, lol

  • They really missed 50 out there. Fort should be out there ahead of Moats and Spence.

  • Reggie Cunningham

    Ref-losers, Defense -losers and winners are Ben,AB and Boz.

  • Bill

    D-Line was shoved backwards most of the night. Old saying: you win & lose at the line of scrimmage. They belong on the loser’s list.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    dupree needs benched. chick immediately got pressure when he was put in. they even moved watt to left side for deebo. deebo wasnt great tonight but he had under 30 snaps at that point in the season. they ran away from deebo and watt most of the night. they ran directly at dupree.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Dude, the second we went down it was absurd how people came out of the woodwork. I seriously thing we need to create a “haters” thread so they can do their thing and leave the rest of us in peace. I had to block my second person in two weeks (never done it before).

  • Bill

    Defense showed up on the last series.

  • Chad Weiss

    OMG what was he thinking?

  • jconeoone C

    Omg this! It was obvious

  • 6 ring circus

    Lol, so true…

  • NimbusHex

    I wouldn’t say Mitchell stood out on an all around awful defensive performance, but you do expect at least his tackling to be better than it was.

  • Nathanael Dory

    Had to leave the tread bcuz of the negativity. After all that, I still had hope we could win the game. WOOW WOOW WOOWW WHAT A GAME!!!!!

  • NinjaMountie

    Have to agree with everything you wrote. I also want to agree.
    You get used to seeing Ben, AB and Bell doing great things so I’m going to give the loudest shout out to………………….
    JESSE JAMES! Wow…what a game!

  • Phil Brenneman II

    It is insane how quick fans get down. 1 completion for 15 or more yards and the world is burning down. Like man, how many times have we seen this same song and dance?

    I am all for fairly criticising plays as the game goes on but can we not have the apocalypse happening every Sunday?

  • steelburg

    I agree he was good in coverage. The Ravens didn’t get a chance to expose him in run support tonight they just ran right at Sutton and Dupree.

  • Bill

    Mac injured again?

  • Chad Weiss

    Not a pff fan but last I saw they had him ranked 83 out of 87 graded players at his position

  • Kevin Schwartz

    What happened to him? He was getting better, making plays, then the last 5 games or so he’s been doing nothing.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    no way. he was out of the play many times. i will go through tomorrow and pull out times and quarters. a bit exhausted tonight but burns was not good by any means tonight.

  • They won’t be able to rest guys against Cleveland this year. Seeding will be at stake the last week whether its NE for the #1 or Jax for the #2 or #3.

  • Chad Weiss

    They should have never even gotten ball back.Absolutely mind blowing

  • Gizmosteel

    Yup. Haden and Shaz being out have really hurt. Hope the next men up can tighten up.

  • ThePointe

    We can all choose to focus on the poor play of the defense, and yes they were bad tonight. But, let’s not forget what this offense just did against the number one defense in the league.

  • steelburg

    I was pissed when I saw he wasn’t coming back he is a huge difference maker when he is in there and it showed in that first half he played.

  • NinjaMountie

    Wait…..Bryant for the losers list. Dude can’t make a cut without his legs giving out.

  • tcirish53@gmail.com

    BB is warming up just in time. Had we had BB from earlier in the season or ‘Road Ben’ we woulda been SOL tonight.
    One of his best – over 500 yds? That’s just crazy

  • Chad Weiss

    Did u see him audible there?

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Yeah, having him and JuJu back next week would be big.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Ha – so, if Ben keeps playing at a high-level, maybe sneaks into the Pro Bowl… you think he maybe decides to come back for another year?

  • Canadiana

    Saw my second ever game at Heinz field tonight, winners : people of Pittsburgh who are always outstanding

  • Taylor Williams

    Great win, still have some problems.
    We need shazier out there. Everyone looked lost and not hitting their gaps correctly.

    Our best cover LB is freaking Watt, a rookie. Tj Watt looking like JJ Watt out there tonight.

    Dupree is useless. No violent hands(like Watt), no strength (like Harrison), can’t stop the run, has no pursuit, can’t cover well. We basically drafted a faster Jarvis. JJ at least made a splash play every now and then.

    Davis with his unnecessary roughness calls are back with a vengeance. This time it didn’t cost us a game.

  • NinjaMountie

    Probably not. He could get close again but I just don’t see it happening.

  • thechamp

    PUT JH92 IN

  • Nathanael Dory

    Coach gotta bench Dupree. They run at his side all game long and your telling me he only had one tackle? ONE FREAKING TACKLE? This is enough

  • Chad Weiss

    Hope he don’t make probably bowl.I want him feeling snubbed

  • Taylor Williams

    Bryant is a noodle.

  • Chad Weiss

    He always goes down first contact..

  • NinjaMountie

    Also…put me on the losers list. I finally broke and gave up on them before the game was over. Actually, I gave up on them early in the 2nd half.
    So, BOOOOOOO one me!

  • Kevin Schwartz

    For me it’s declaring the game over in the third quarter. People were saying we were gonna lose when we were down 4. It’s amazing. Have you ever watched or played sports ever? Things swing. You don’t get too high when you’re up, don’t get too low when you’re down.

    I said before, I’m glad the team has more mental toughness than some fans. “We’re never gonna beat the Patriots!” “This isn’t a Super Bowl caliber team!” Bla bla bla.

    And, yeah, its gotten worse the last couple weeks for some reason.

  • WeWantDaTruth

    KOs will be very important next week. Bill B rarely has Gostowski kick out of end zone.

  • Taylor Williams

    Shane Ray would’ve been a better pick.

    I was so hyped for Dupree before the season started. Hes still the same guy from college. I’ve seen no progression from him

  • Phil Brenneman II

    It is just bad all around Kevin.

    On top of it all, we have witnessed this countless times as fans of the Steelers and yet it doesn’t ever seem to sink in for people.

  • JohnB

    Watts last play was Deeboesque…I like it.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    That one drive where the Ravens went up 11 the officiating was the worst. I don’t care what anyone says that call on Sean Davis was back and the call on Burns was even worse.

  • BigBodyBeer

    He and Dupree are the most disappointing and frustrating players on the team.

  • Those of you saying the Ravens shouldn’t have got the ball back with a time out need to realize the the Steelers shouldn’t have gotten the ball back with 2:35 on the clock. The Raven threw 2 incompletions when they probably should have been running the ball. It shocked me that they decided to throw it and it is why we were able to won.

  • NinjaMountie

    Yeah, they were out of their mind making sure that things didn’t get too rough.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Looking at the list, there’s not that much there in the AFC. Brady’s in. Then it’s Alex Smith, Rivers, and Ben. Watson didn’t play long enough, Carr and Mariota haven’t been good enough, Taylor and Bortles aren’t good enough. He’s got a chance.

  • NinjaMountie

    He was always coming back. He isn’t leaving that money behind.

  • WreckIess

    You kind of touched on it with the missed tackles, but the ILBs were horrible today. Shazier’s absence was notable on pretty much every play. The team did an awful job at addressing the backups at that position last offseason.

    Happy with the win, but they have some work to do in that 2nd level.

  • Taylor Williams

    Great plays always happen when deebo is on the field

  • NinjaMountie

    Alex Smith is def getting a nod.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Nah, he’s got enough money. I don’t think it’s about that for him. It’s about being willing to put in the work and take the beating.

  • I.P. Freeley

    I understand the logic of a short pass to try for a closer FG and a 1st down. Some calculated risk is part of the equation. If the Ravens WR had stayed in bounds, it would have come back to bite us.

  • BRB4ever

    Can’t really argue. Davis was the most disappointing one on D IMO.

  • You are much better off staying away from the game threads.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Yeah, he’s still got a 23-4 TD-INT ratio. Unless he craters, he’s probably in. Rivers or Ben might be up for grabs over the rest of the season.

  • NinjaMountie

    IDK. I’m certain he has other considerations. If he had to sign another contract I’d think differently.
    I’d be willing to bet my years salary that, barring injury, he’ll be back next season.

  • heath miller

    let me shorten the above article…..
    WINNERS and LOSERS

    winners: O and Boz

    losers: D

    The End .. Good Night

  • victor hull

    Yeah two runs by Bell kick it. Game over.

  • victor hull

    Bud runs himself out of play after play.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Let em hate! Love to prove those clowns wrong. I know exactly who they are!

  • Sam Clonch

    So Steelers have #1 in receptions and receiving yards, #1 in rushing yards, and I believe that they now have the #1 QB in passing yards after that monster game! (Brady will take it back in the first 7 minutes of game time Monday no doubt, but whatever!)

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Damn, I’m not sure what kind of money you make, but that would be an exciting bet.

  • 6 ring circus

    Way to man up….boooo!

  • ryan72384

    Davis was bad but I don’t even know if there is a word to describe Buds play. Beyond bad. Got destroyed in the running game. Gets no pressure. I really believed Bud was going to have a big year. What a disappointment. I still to this day believe Bud should have stayed in the 270 range weight wise. He was bigger and stronger and still was fast. The extra speed he may have gained has done nothing for him. Our MLBs are a trainwreck too.

  • NinjaMountie

    Dang…Wentz really putting his Superman on to play with his knee like that.

  • Yinzers love to yinz…

  • Kevin Schwartz

    I’m watching Jerry Rice highlights to see if there’s any shot you can make a case for AB catching up to him.

  • 6 ring circus

    For sure. They have gotten toxic lately. Bring your gas mask!

  • victor hull

    Appalling

  • Dan

    It’s actually 18-2 in their last 20, or 18-3 in their last 21.

  • NinjaMountie

    LOL…heck yeah it would be. I have that money earmarked for food and bills….and that new Ford Ranger they’re releasing next year.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    AB is just different. No will ever admit, but AB is the most exciting player I’ve ever seen play.

  • Sam Clonch

    Man, there’s just no reason to worry about it yet, lol. Rice just played for SO LONG, it’s not even worth worrying about it yet. It’ll take well into another QBs tenure to put him even close. He just needs to keep doing what he’s doing, and if he’s lucky he’ll be around for another 10 years. That’s hard to even think about in todays game though.

  • snowseeker

    +1

    Bryant + Dupree = Losers

    Ben, Brown, Bell & Boz = Amazing

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Funny thing is I feel like they’re relatively similar. Neither are huge, or burners, but both make big plays and are deceptively quick. Both are masters of their craft and catch everything near them.

  • mezzetin1

    F Wentz. Buh-Bye Philly…

  • Sam Clonch

    Thought he went out as soon as he got hurt?

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Oh, I don’t – and, usually, I argue he has no chance of catching him stat-wise. I’m just so impressed by AB the last few weeks.

  • cencalsteeler

    Bryant showed tonight that he is very soft. No fight in him whatsoever. I know this wont be popular, but I’d rather see Ju Ju, Brown and Eli. I just dont have much confidence in MB when Ben throws his way.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    I can’t argue!

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Pretty sure he finished up the series with a TD pass.

  • Rusted Out

    I’ve been defending Dupree, but he was truly awful tonight, and this was not the first game thus season where he has been invisible. Completely unacceptable for a starting OLB in a 3-4 defense let alone a first round pick. Notice Silverback was on the field with Watt in Dupree’s spot to close out the game. I like that personnel going forward.

  • Sam Clonch

    MVP if the media would ever get off of QBs jock an give it to who actually deserves it.

  • NinjaMountie

    This ^^^^
    That knee was wobbling around bad….he’s probably out.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    He’s just a beast. Funny thing is, except for the sideline catches, most of them look easy. They don’t look like circus catches, he doesn’t usually catch it at the high point over people. He just makes plays.

  • Ken Krampert

    Coty Sensabaugh is a train wreck. And the entire Dline needs to take some slack for getting blown off the ball. Throwing twice at the end was also very stupid…….but we won, so who f-n cares.

  • Sdale

    He got called for 2 PI that were both Offensive PI. I thought he did well today. I do agree with most others that say he wasn’t exposed against the run because they always went the other way.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Yeah, I think the reality is QBs are so much more valuable in football than anyone else that it’s hard not to give it to one. Realistically, do you think we’d be better off missing Ben or missing AB? I’d say AB in a second.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    No! He high points it also! He’s underrated in that aspect!

  • Sam Clonch

    Oh. I was fueling up, getting ready for our game so I didn’t actually see much of that one!

  • 20Stoney

    Bryant is a guy who should be thanking God that he is still in the league. He looks more like a guy who doesn’t really care when things don’t go his way.

  • blcartwright

    Clock management was bad. Going into 2nd down & 57 seconds left, Ravens had one time out remaining for two Steelers’ plays. The pass was acceptable on 2nd down but not on 3rd. With 52 seconds, run the ball 5 seconds, let Baltimore call their last time out with 47, then for the field goal let the clock go down to :08, call a Steelers’ timeout, come back and kick, leaving the Ravens with maybe 5 seconds. Squib the kick and all they have left is the run back.

  • Mark

    1. Keith Butler, we are getting gouged in the run game and you don’t dial up a couple of run blitzes? Keith get them aggressive early so that they can play better late. Also, installing Moats at ILB was the dumbest decision of this year.
    2. Todd’s insistence on running WR bubble screes. PLEASE STOP!!
    3. Cam, Tuitt, and Hargrave along with Bud were straight Houdini in the run and pass game
    4. Martavis Bryant is playing not to get hurt and isn’t putting in much effort. He’s like Franco, out bounds or laying down is his friend.

  • Chad Sanborn

    i agree. i saw a lot of calls that shouldnt have been made and a lot that were missed. i know Dupree didnt play great but a few of those runs he was held on which is why he couldnt get there to make the tackle.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    What! Show me. I’m sure he does, I just notice that a lot of the times he catches it to his body, even on big plays. It’s a compliment, not a negative.

  • NinjaMountie

    I’m just going around to Ravens articles and trolling if they have comment sections. lol

  • blcartwright

    Boomin’

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Just checked the Ravens Subreddit. They were actually reasonably chill about it. Mostly blaming their D coordinator and wishing they had a #1 WR like AB they could trust in big situations.

  • Sam Clonch

    Seen a number of them there (and even a few at 3 Rivers), but never one THAT good. If you tell me that the other one you saw was the Christmas day game last year I’d be soooo jealous!

  • mezzetin1

    C’mon Haden! Need ya!

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Browns game he had one! He’s been on You Got Moss’d a few times!

  • snowseeker

    He appears like a guy just going through the motions to make it to the end of the season with the hope (delusional) of having some sort of value to another team. He shows no passion or drive

  • Sam Clonch

    I’m pretty sure that for the moment (until Brady plays tomorrow), Ben is actually leading the league in yards after that game. So I’d say his chance for a pro-bowl might be better than you think!

  • NinjaMountie

    They might want to wish for a QB more

  • Kevin Schwartz

    All right – I’ll look it up.

  • mezzetin1

    Straight up!

  • mezzetin1

    Apparently the only quarterback to hit 500 three times. Brees only twice.

  • mezzetin1

    Its that simple.

  • mhurk

    Booming!

  • Brenton deed

    Great game alround … if you’re playing professionals you can’t dominate all the time and we should give the Ravens credit … they always show up.

  • mezzetin1

    Bungholes!

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Ha, AB probably clinched my first-round playoff win in Fantasy as well. Dude’s been a PPR monster the last four weeks.

  • mezzetin1

    This week and last week. Worst zebras in a VERY long time…

  • tarquin

    Alex, did you catch that they lined Deebo on the LOLB and Watt opposite on ROLB on the strip sack? What do you think of seeing more of that in the next few games?

    If you noticed, Deebo got double-teamed with some RB support, opening up Watt in a one-on-one with Ravens RT. (Howard I think)

  • mezzetin1

    THAT I cannot comprehend, and I demand to know which coach allowed that to happen. INCOMPREHENSIBLE…………..

  • mezzetin1

    No. Ben knows better than that. Much better.

  • mezzetin1

    Yes.

  • Reader783

    1. Totally agree, we can sit here all night and list their mistakes. I think we just had this same crew for another game and I remember the announcer saying their crew calls more penalties than all others. They were really bad tonight. That last Ravens drive to say the least was, well, disgraceful.

    2. I think you can call out the end to BOTH halves. We didn’t even USE the timeout we had to end the first half, opting to spike the ball (and lose 35 seconds) 2 times instead of using the timeout, then not having enough time to take a shot to the endzone twice.

    End of the game, ya, I mean I know we love the idea of going for the win, but at some point you’re playing for a FG attempt, not a TD. Run-run to demand the last play is a FG. We were lucky that Fort laid the lumber on Maclin to require them to burn that timeout.

  • Reader783

    To be fair, he broke possibly the most important tackle of his entire career in the end-zone to avoid a safety tonight! Staying positive!

  • colingrant

    Haven’t seen a Steelers safety look like Davis did today in a while. Lethon Flowers maybe? Worse game of Davis’ career. Trifecta, Assignment gaffs, missed tackling, penalties. Multiple infractions with each major category. May have been responsible for 150 yards.

  • mezzetin1

    Um.. Jarvis?

  • mezzetin1

    Inexcusable.

  • mezzetin1

    I’ve been saying that.

  • mezzetin1

    Nah.

  • mezzetin1

    AB got visibly upset at him for lack of effort on a block.

  • Canadiana

    I wish! First game was two years ago against the browns with browns front flip

  • pittfan

    You get a Mulligan!!

  • Reader783

    Yup, he needs to hit the film hard this week. Hope he got it all out of his system.

  • Jason Vancil

    I just don’t know about Bud Dupree. He is healthy and he looks like the same raw athlete he did 3 years ago.

  • Joey

    HORRIBLE calls….

  • Phil Brenneman II

    I seem to have some bad memories of Ryan Mundy.

  • FreeJuju2017

    Clearly the lack of tackles is an issue, but could any of this be attributed to coaching as well? It seems that Dupree’s first move off the ball is to run 4 yards upfield before even considering cutting in towards the pocket. On passing plays, this effectively eliminates his chances of getting a sack, and it allows an opening for the quarterback to scramble. On run plays (like tonight), it often opens up a huge running lane between the left guard and left tackle.

    Dupree definitely has his moments (has 5 sacks on the year), but he honestly seems like a liability. His major goal as a linebacker seems to just be “take the left tackle out of the play.” Like I said, I don’t know how much is attributable to just bad instincts or coaching, but man I would consider rotating in Chickillo or Harrison much more frequently.

  • mezzetin1

    He should realize the kid is back next week.

  • mezzetin1

    Can we? What if we fall behind next week too? Jeez…

  • FreeJuju2017

    Worst game by a Steelers safety I have seen in a while. Had Wilcox not been listed inactive, I don’t think #28 would have finished the game. First touchdown was 100% his fault. Missed at least 4 tackles that I could see, especially that terrible one on the sideline where he just watched. Stupid penalties (I can understand the “late hit” on Watson if Davis thought he had caught the ball). Going to be a rough week for him in film.

    We need him better by 12/17 or Brady is going to have a day.

  • mezzetin1

    Terrible..

  • mezzetin1

    I’m starting to hate Eli.

  • mezzetin1

    Um.. Bell?

  • Hard Row

    Maybe this is an opportunity to transition Dupree to ILB. He’s a great athlete but just doesn’t seem to have that pass rush killer instinct. Watt has it. It’s obvious, but Bud just lacks that aggression.

    I don’t see much dropoff from Dupree to Chickillo.

  • Ni mo

    Burns played good those was 2 BS calls on him

  • mezzetin1

    Better than Eli, sorry.

  • Mister Wirez

    Take away the refs and the DBs weren’t nearly as bad as they looked, now the ILBs… Were just horrific.

  • Max

    The tight ends accounted for 30% of the (506!) receiving yards. Jesse was great and so was Vance. Nice to see after all the struggles.

    Martavis Bryant looked like he was playing at half speed.

  • Hard Row

    This thing with Davis is he does make plays. He makes mistakes too, but you can see the upside. You can see that he has potential to be a great player.

    His problem is that at Maryland they moved him back and forth between safety and CB so he didn’t get to master either.

    To make things worse, the Steelers did the same thing last year when Burns was injured so Davis was playing CB half the year.

    That explains his tackling problems too because the angles are all different. I think he just needs time and will be a difference maker

  • 2winz

    I like their team better than Bengals, but as far as the coaches go, I equally don’t like either. Harbaugh still whines and complains too much so I’m glad he lost.

  • Mister Wirez

    Glass McDonald loser in the health department.

    Bryant (aka rubber legs) should be removed from all ST kicking aspects . I have never seen a guy that ripped trip over 1 blade of grass as easily as he does.

  • Reader783

    Well, I can only give the DBs a tiny pass with the refs tonight…Burns PI calls were both some of the worst I’ve ever seen, up there with an Ike Taylor PI against the Jets a few years back that stands out to me.

    But Davis I think played his worst game as a professional and probably in his entire football career tonight; got beat deep a few times, a few BAD missed tackles and some very unacceptable penalties. Tackling on the edges on runs was also bad…they torched us on runs off tackle that got bounced to the outside, that can’t all be on the ILBs.

  • 2winz

    That ball was not even catch-able.. Wallace himself quit on his route and at that the refs should know better. I don’t understand why refs don’t really take that into consideration when throwing for pass interference.. I have seen them throw that flag on several non-catchable balls this season.

  • 2winz

    And now brace yourself for when we go against Brady the golden boy lol

  • mezzetin1

    That guilt you feel means you have no real faith…

  • Canadiana

    It’s about giving Bradshaw a big middle finger

  • mezzetin1

    No.

  • Reader783

    Good point…they definitely were playing that line between safety and slot corner last year.

  • mezzetin1

    Those of us who want to continue winning, that’s who.

  • NCSteel

    Loser- Martavis Bryant, don’t give me the how hard it is to take a year off kind of junk.
    It’s mid December.
    Also, Look at Gordon over in Cleveland, he’s playing at a pro level right away after almost, what…3 years off or something like that ?
    Martavis needs to go to a mountaintop and do some chanting or yoga or something and try and find himself cause he ain’t cutting it man.
    Seriously, he looks like a flat tire on a Mercedes.

  • Ichabod

    Bud is going to be a fine backup for somebody
    He certainly is not a quality starter

  • Mike Lloyd

    Bud Dupree had a lot of Jarvis Jones in him tonight…

  • razaard2

    They should have trusted bell and Boswell to close the game. But Ben was on fire and they gave him the ball, in the end it almost cost us the game. Gotta be smarter than that

  • razaard2

    Dupree can’t set an edge to save his life. We want Deebo and Watt!
    Beat the cheaters!

  • Michael James

    Wow, where should I start? First of all: What a great win!

    Now to the actual winners/losers. I think you nailed it. Maybe add Bryant as a loser, but that’s it.

    It’s obvious that this defense has to get used to playing without Shazier. Dupree was a complete no-show once again. The sad thing is that he has five sacks this season, but only one of them (vs Minnesota) was an actual “quality sack” where he beat an OT. It was the same with his sacks the last two years. He simply can’t beat NFL OTs and it’s time to accept it.
    Davis played absolutely horrible tonight. It was one game though (he was ok to good the last few games), so I won’t pull out the pitchfork. He has to play better from now on though. Mitchell was poor, too. Our safeties are simply no gamechangers. Safety should be one of the top priorities in the upcoming draft.

  • Michael James

    Those five sacks look great, but only one of them can be attributed to him actually beating an OT (vs Minnesota) and even there you have to be generous.
    The others are all hustly sacks or come via scheme (stunts etc.).

  • Richard Edlin

    If they win against NE they can lose vs the Browns and stay #1.

  • Michael James

    You know, I used to really hate them, but after seeing how the constant b*tching from Bengals fans and how the games against them turn into ugly street fights, I actually came to respect the Ravens.

  • Michael James

    Reserve that for the Bengals, Ravens fans are a bless compared to them.

  • MC

    Hubbard driving the guy many thought we would draft into the stands was beautiful.

    Been saying this all year, Bud is a MAJOR weak link of this defense. Everyone points at Burns, at times Davis and Mitchell but you gotta put Bud in there. Everytime i watch a big run play his side (which is where most of them came from) he was consistently getting washed out of the play.

    Vance always gets me excited when he gets a few catches under his belt but the man is glass.

    Entertaining win but Brady against this D is going to be scary.

  • Paul Barracliffe

    Hey Super warn’tvinvidible

  • Kevin artis

    I’ve been trying to defend Bud but you might be right.
    We need a safety in the draft and now an ILB but our first three picks might be ILB, OLB and Safety.
    I would of benched him and put Harrison on that side.

  • Carl Mendelius

    The good news:

    1. Ben is back!

    2. RT Hubbard is playing incredibly well.

    3. Boswell is winning many games and could be key in the playoffs.

    The bad news:

    1. I was wrong, Sean Davis still is unreliable. What a GARBAGE game he had. What is Carnell Lake doing?

    2. Poor job from the coaches responsible for adjusting the system to account for Shazier absence.

    3. Belichick was watching the game, he is going to exploit every weakness.

  • will

    Agree with that……and keeps reloading.

  • Mutatedgenome

    Bud is a fing bust. Jarvis Jones 2..0.

  • Iulo

    give Spence some credit, he was only 4 days there… but agree… he showed nothing to be starter, so to say, his performance is not enough to sit Dirtyred. So once Matakevich is ready, I better go with him.
    Moats was also disappointing.
    We have a problem at ILB.

  • John Pennington

    Steelers will need to draft a ILB with speed who can cover sideline to sideline because the players they have now cant play that way.Dont know if Kelsey can do it havent seen him since training camp.If a player is there in 1st or 2nd round they need to jump on him right away if he is smart and can tackle.

  • Jaybird

    Oh yeah no doubt. I respect the Patriots also. And I hate them too!
    The Bengals- I hate them and have no respect for them . Hating and respecting are two different things.

  • Japgolf

    As I said before Dupree is worse than Jones put him on the ps go with Deebo in the playoffs. But he is a #1 pick we can’t waive him? Answer; Put on the tape of the last 10 games and tell me why he gets a hat and is a starter!

  • Jaybird

    Oh my god , I thought we had lost when that guy almost caught that bomb from Flacco. That would have been an easy FG for their Robo kicker. My heart dropped when I saw him catch that. Thank god he doesn’t have Tonio Toes.

  • Jaybird

    Doesn’t matter who called it – Ben or Haley. Two runs and that game was over. And yes Ben was outstanding last night. Outstanding.

  • Conserv_58

    Excellent break down Alex and I agree with everything you pointed out.

    Losers: Bud Dupree is terrible as a pass rusher. I was livid watching Dupree be a non factor, again. There is no excuse for him to consistently get man handled by RT’s and taken out of plays. He gets zero penetration. Alex repeated what I said after the bengals game. Dupree was invisible. There were a couple of plays when they put Chickillo in for him and Deebo in for T.J. and there was a noticeable improvement. That’s not a knock on T.J. either. With no legitimate pass rush, Flacco was shredding the secondary.

  • will

    The loss of Shazier was glaring!

  • Stairway7

    Why not start Harrison and move Watt to Dupree’s side? Maybe if he was made inactive for a game a light would come in inside his brain. He looked like a freshman playing with seniors last night.

  • Stairway7

    Zero tackles for Spence, two for Moats. Clearly this plan won’t work.

  • ‘Cuse

    Oh my, Brady & Gronk will control the middle next week and it might not be out of the question to see Brady throw for 500+ yards. Belichick and Brady had to be licking their chops last nite seeing that defense.

  • Chad Weiss

    He showed he’s not even a backup alone starter.

  • Chad Weiss

    He’s shown that all year

  • Chad Weiss

    True .

  • Rocksolid20

    Ha , JuJu will play but McyD will need his three game rest .

  • Rocksolid20

    If we win the Super Bowl , he will retire . Lose and i’d say he comes back
    one last time .

  • Chad Weiss

    Davis Mitchell,Bryant,Rogers,fort dupree all need upgraded. Spence,sensabaugh, are hot garbage.
    Sutton showed a little promise coverage but couldn’t tackle to save his life.
    Watt is so close on so many plays.Thst dudes gonna be best player on this defense if he isn’t already.

  • Conserv_58

    I would start Chickillo over Deebo because he can cover and Deebo can’t. Deebo admitted that he has been too inactive to be able to play at a high level. I’m not saying he couldn’t be affective, but he’s right.

  • Conserv_58

    Bryant is too soft in the head and it showed last night. He’s afraid of contact.

  • Conserv_58

    That still doesn’t excuse his hitting a player out of bounds and then getting another personal foul penalty. He was out of position, took bad angles and made too many stupid and inexcusable penalties. Carnell had better get him to clean up his dumb mistakes before Sunday.

  • Conserv_58

    The refs were pretty bad.

  • Bill Thompson

    How about clock management at the end of the game? The fact that we had to defend at all after the field goal was insane. I can’t imagine if we had lost the game because of that. Really poor decisions.

  • Conserv_58

    I was thinking the very same thing last night. He just might make for a much better ILB than an edge rusher.

    There is no drop off between him and Chickillo. Chickillo may not be as atheltic, but he is actually better at shedding blockers and setting the edge.

  • Conserv_58

    Carnell needs to ride his butt to get his head on right.

  • BDCBDC7

    very disappointed in Davis – horrible game. Dupree- has been content to just stand up with his man and do nothing. I was really watching Dupree last night and he had no sense of urgency AT ALL. Not really sure what to do with him.

  • Conserv_58

    He seems to be as a pass rusher, but I’d like to see if he can make a smooth transition to ILB. With his atheleticism and speed he just might be a stud ILB.

  • NinjaMountie

    Good Lord!!! Each game is different! They may or may not do that. Stop saying things like this. I’m sure when you watched the Bears game you thought, “Gee, everyone is going to run all over us!” But they didn’t.
    You can say the same thing after this game.
    Lets give them a chance before we sell them out.

  • Conserv_58

    Last night proved they have a huge problem at ILB. Watching the ravens shredd them on outside runs proved that not one of them is even close to being able to replace Ryan’s speed.

  • Thomas

    I don’t know how you could not include the linebackers, that was embarrassing. Just total inability to get to the edge on outside zone.

  • Conserv_58

    I agree. A.B. is the most complete receiver in the game. Period. He has no equal. There are some really good receivers, but none of them have the diversity of elite talent that A.B. does. His eye-hand coordination is other worldly.

  • Rob

    MB looked horrible on kick returns. He was in slow motion all night.
    He knows something I’m afraid.

  • Rob

    Burns is apparently afraid to tackle. I expect we will eventually hear he has a shoulder. He avoids the plays and does not even try to come off a block.

  • Conserv_58

    The lack of a pass rush is why they can’t put teams away early and keep games from going down to the final seconds. No pass rush means the weak secondary gets exposed. Bud Dupree should not be starting. He has never learned how to set the edge. He gets walked up the arch and owned by RT’s consistently. He can not shed blockers. He lacks a powerful punch and allows himself to get caught up in hand fighting.

  • Conserv_58

    He’s timid and a pussified whimp. He’s afraid of contact as a receiver and especially as a kick returner.

  • walter

    It looks as if Moats is not the answer at ILB

  • Denny

    it seems that Bryant is trying to avoid contact. Never gets up to speed on KR unless he see a big hole and then stops before getting tackled. He is also quick to find the sideline after a reception even when near the first down marker. Certainly have to think JuJu and Fitz with be the KRs next week.

  • Conserv_58

    Keep in mind that they just may have a sleeper pass rusher on injured reserve. That player being Keion Adams.

  • L Garou

    Cringe worthy seeing Collins AND the kickoff and punt returners beat the defense to the edge all night long. Kick coverage is among the league’s worst, if not the worst.

  • Nathanael Dory

    I doubt that the scheme is design to make a player invisible. Seriously, he is the only player who didnt have a positive impact on the game. Even Mike Mitchell played 2 good series at the end.

  • Conserv_58

    They missed Tyler Matakevich last night.

  • walter

    Im glad i dont have to read any garbage from the Ben haters anymore.

  • Conserv_58

    Dupree had better be worried because the Steelers might just have themselves a sleeper OLB in Keion Adams.

  • Conserv_58

    Give it time.

  • FanInExile

    Here’s the factual narrative, which of course hinges on that very biggest of “ifs”:

    If the Steelers win the Super Bowl this year, the Roethlisberger Steelers will have won more Super Bowls than the Brady Patriots over the last 12 years – supposedly Brady’s prime years.

    That should, but it won’t, shut ‘em all up. It’s also just one measure of how high the legacy stakes are this year.

  • hdogg48

    I don’t know…putting up 39 points on the Ratbirds
    Elite defense, especially after they became one dimensional
    when they fell behind by 11 is an enormous win.

    I saw a graphic that said the Ravens were the #1 team in the
    NFL in out scoring their opponents in the 4th quarter,
    and we came back from 11 down and then 9 points.

    Sure Brady, McDaniel, and Bellichek are drooling at how
    to attack our sieve-like D, but Patricia is going to
    be peeing in his pants at the prospect of facing
    the Killer Bs plus JuJu at the big ketchup bottle.

    First team to 45 is going to win it. The Pats D is really
    pretty average, and certainly not in the class of the Ravens,
    Jaguars, and Minnesota…ALL of whom we’ve faced.
    They have yet to see anything as high octaned and as
    balanced as our offense, who are peaking at the right
    time, and are capable of coming back against ANYBODY.

  • walter

    Yea i couldnt believe the pass to Grimble.

  • Eric C. Brown

    I was surprised to see Pro Football Focus has him ranked as the 4th-best quarterback in the league this year.

  • TsarPepe

    No, that’s not all that matters. This is a team with huge problems on defense, which Brady will enjoy tearing apart.

  • TsarPepe

    I can’t believe that the major topic on this forum not so long ago was Ben’s “decline.” Some people on here called him a “game manager”. The only person in history to throw TWICE for over 500 yards?!!!

  • Conserv_58

    On the bright side: According to Bob Labriola: The Steelers clinched their seventh divisional title under Tomlin and with it a berth in the playoffs and a home game to open the playoffs. Their clinching the divisonal title is their twenty-third since the 1970 AFC-NFC merger. Their playoff berth is their 30th and no other franchise has as many in the past 48 seasons, in both categories.

  • TsarPepe

    Losers: all those who think this team is ready to beat the Pats. Our defense is collapsing at the moment, and if this isn’t fixed fast, the playoffs will be short ride. If the offense-deficient Baltimore is running all over you, imagine what Brady and Co. will do.

  • Marcel Chris Chauvet

    I’m half tempted to mention artie burns with the winners if, for no other reason, he avoided the losers list. It’s been a good month or more straight that he’s been on there. That’s progress Artie. Keep it up next week.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    theres no way. later today im going to rewatch the game and point out where he got roasted, was missing tackles and was just out of his game.

  • Crashcrash777

    Buzzkill

  • Michael Mosgrove

    id say dupree needs to be more worried about chickillo. chickillo was a 6th rounder, that now looks like a second. dupree was a first that now looks like a third.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    all that talk of adding 20 lbs of muscle and he shies away from contact as much as artie.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    i wouldnt. put chick in for dupree or move watt to that side like they did last night and keep deebo on the right. if deebo plays the rest of the year then he will get up to speed for playoffs.

  • Junaid

    Second straight week we benched coty for Sutton. Let Sutton get them reps. If haden does not play, Im with sutton all the way

  • Michael Mosgrove

    ben held the record for having 2 500 games. now he owns it for 3 500 games.

  • westcoasteeler

    Martavis was every bit visible as he’s lost his speed and more importantly his nerve.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    thats ridiculous. weve gotten 5 sacks out of jones. we got 13.5 from dupree. thats almost triple the production. jones as much as he couldnt rush was decent in run USUALLY.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    to expect spence to be up with shazier’s speed is insane. that being said, once spence gets back to playing, he will be fine. spence always had good form just little speed. shazier had speed but no form.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    nahhh. i’m not blaming mcdonald. injuries happen. he was starting to go off prior to his injury.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    or the body slam after the whistle blew.

  • Junaid

    My draft board:

    safety
    ilb
    olb
    cb
    de
    wr

  • Stephen

    Loser was the last two offensive play calls of passing instead of running the clock down and forcing the Ravens to use their final timeout

  • westcoasteeler

    Fargin bastages! Lol!!!

  • NinjaMountie

    Why is Chick not starting in place of Dupree? He must look bad in practice. He looks okay when he comes in the game. I think at this point you have to give him a legitimate look.

  • Intense Camel

    He’s nowhere near the same guy. It has to be the weight.

  • Intense Camel

    To be fair Gordon was always better.

  • Intense Camel

    Ben being Ben

  • Intense Camel

    He still has speed but zero lateral quickness.

  • Conserv_58

    He’s afraid of contact.

  • NinjaMountie

    I was actually laughing at him trying to make cuts. His legs looked like the were literally too weak to support him.

  • BlackAndGold97

    Agreed..I’ve also never seen a guy of his size go down so easily

  • Conserv_58

    Oh, I couldn’t agree more and I said as much already in this thread. However, Keion Adams was having a pretty good camp before his injury.

  • Conserv_58

    I think it has more to do with his being a long strider. He doesn’t have short area quickness or the quick-twitch ability to change direction on a dime.

  • NinjaMountie

    I agree with you about that but that still doesn’t explain why he literally stumbles and falls almost every time he makes a cut.

  • Conserv_58

    He forgot to work on that muscle between his ears. His girlfriend is more aggressive than he is.

  • Conserv_58

    True. However, I’ve noticed that he squats as he’s attempting to make a cut, thus causing himself to be too low to get his long striding feet under him.

  • Conserv_58

    We are of like minds.

  • NinjaMountie

    LOL…we both agree…he has no coordination with his feet. 🙂

  • Intense Camel

    He was never prone to contact. How many receivers are? I just think he can’t move like he wants to.

  • Intense Camel

    He should have stayed skinny.

  • Conserv_58

    Replacing Dupree with Chickillo was essentially what I was eluding to and have said already. I could live with the scenario you presented.

  • Lambert58

    Absolutely inexcusable to run those two pass plays in that situation. Looked like the Falcons in last year’s SB.

  • Conserv_58

    I know. I said so above.

  • Conserv_58

    Martavis is especially timid and fearful of contact.

  • John A Stewart

    Loses should also be coach Lake and Butler these miss tackles are killing us.

  • Intense Camel

    Along with 75% of the leagues receivers.

  • Conserv_58

    You’re right. The fact that coach Tomlin felt the need to pull the defense aside and address their pathetic tackling should have never happened. Keith Butler, Porter, Olsavsky and Lake should be embarrassed for that to happen.

  • Intense Camel

    Look at his film. He was always running away or around people. Now he’s just getting caught.

  • KiJana Haney

    ilb
    qb
    olb
    s

  • Conserv_58

    So what. I don’t care about the other receivers because Bryant plays for the Steelers and if he had his girlfriend’s aggressiveness and moxie he’d be a pro bowl player.

  • Conserv_58

    QB is paramount since I think Ben is done after this season.

  • Conserv_58

    IMO, Spence has never fully recovered from his devastating knee injury.

  • Intense Camel

    He’s not the same guy physically and that’s obvious. His game was never driven by aggressiveness or moxie.

  • steelereign

    I agree, but this tackling issue has been around for years now, even back to the LeBeau days. There is a systemic issue on the defensive side of the ball, which tells me that it’s time for Butler to go and a new philosophy to be instilled.

  • Junaid

    Let’s not write off Dobbs. I see good potential in him honestly

  • Conserv_58

    IMO, for those reasons he makes for good trade bait. The Steelers could use the picks.

  • Junaid

    no way we should take qb in second round

  • Junaid

    Am I the only Steelers fan, that wants Dobbs to be Ben’s replacement?

  • Junaid

    Nah I like Butler, He stays

  • Conserv_58

    I didn’t write him off, but it would be prudent to have another young and promising QB to groom because going into next season with Landry Jones is deflating.

  • Junaid

    We know what we have in Landry. Hopefully Dobbs start vs browns.

  • Conserv_58

    There is a long standing axiom that players tend to take on their coach’s persona. Keith Butler is a smart coach, but he does have a very laid back personality.

  • steelereign

    This isn’t about whether you “like” someone or not. Something or someone needs to change, and it’s a lot harder and more expensive to change all the players.

    The Steelers defense continues to struggle with the same issues year in and year out. So, either the FO and coaches are making poor decisions in the draft OR they aren’t getting enough out of these guys in game prep.

  • Conserv_58

    No, but he does have to prove he’s worthy of being so.

  • Junaid

    Nah, Burns played pretty good, They were picking apart coty,

  • Junaid

    Tackling is not on the coaches, that comes down to the players

  • tcirish53@gmail.com

    One of the best life lessons I have learned is that things are never as good nor as bad as they seem.
    BB is slowing down, that’s inevitable. Our bodies only hold out so long even if one is a professional athlete.
    But u r correct – all the ‘media experts’ were stupid enough (or click bait opportunistic enough!) to run with his ‘maybe I don’t have it anymore’ line like he was serious.
    He has several years left so Here We Go!!!!!!

  • steelereign

    Completely agree. And, while I like Mike Tomlin, this team is beginning to take on a “all flash, little substance” persona. To me, that is Tomlin.

    And, please don’t get me wrong, I’m not suggesting that Tomlin lacks substance as a person, but more so as a motivator. He hollers and claps his hands and makes motivating speeches, but the players don’t have the ability to rise to the occasion quite often.

  • KiJana Haney

    Dobbs is really the wild card. I don’t know how high they are on him. After last night ilb would be my first pick. If they could get raquon smith from Georgia it would be best for the team.

  • steelereign

    Not sure how to answer that…

    Yes, I’d love to think that Dobbs will be a more than capable replacement for Ben.
    No, I don’t want that to happen next year.
    I have NO idea if Dobbs has what it takes.

  • Conserv_58

    IMO, this defense lacks the swagger and confidence that coach Noll’s and Cowher’s defenses had. Listening to how the defensive players talk during interviews is very telling.

  • Junaid

    Damn, its been so long since we’ve been 11-2. I really wish I could play for Pittsburgh. Regret not playing high school football cause I’m small. Only 5’5, but I play bigger than my size, like Mike Hilton. I could play man zone anything, Me and Artie would lock it down. Maybe i’ll apply for a coaching position for Steelers one day, 10 years+ experience on Madden.

  • Game_Time

    Although the Steelers came out on top in this game, it could have been a different outcome do to dumb play calling in the final minute of the game. The choice to throw the ball Instead of running the ball and forcing the Ravens to use their last timeout then running the ball once more to burn the clock, kick the field goal, kill the drama I have to include Tomlin and Haley on the losers list

  • 570toHero

    Call me greedy. AB deserves a ring, Ben deserves more. A fire has been lit inside the heart of Big Ben. He played out of his mind last night. Those throws were a thing of beauty and those catches were clutch. These guys believe in him and we are never out of any game. The Ben of old is back and whether we win or lose is on his back. This is a true band of brothers. There is a sense in the air of something special going on. You feel it?

    Some other thoughts…Loved seeing my man Rosie get a TD. He blows people up from start to finish, every single game. A true warhorse. We need our secondary to grow up fast. Mitchell included. Ike and Deshea need to have a talk with them. Jimmy Harrison needs to be in for more snaps. Watt can play LOLB just fine for a few snaps, and with James on the right we can get even more pressure. Let’s mix it up a few times. We’ll need it this coming Sunday. Bud unfortunately just isn’t doing it for me. Not saying to take him out or sit him, but I would take some snaps away from him. This isn’t about giving him a chance. This is about winning.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    we need a tight end too

  • pcantidote

    Serious question here — does Dupree have the speed to play ILB? I thought when we drafted him he had that kind of speed. He LOOKS more like a Steelers ILB. Perhaps he doesn’t have the strength to combat NFL Tackles. We have the depth at OLB to replace him, and as stated, he isn’t really producing there anyway.

  • Conserv_58

    Do we have an idea of how many compensatory picks the Steelers will receive this coming off season? I know we get one for Timmons, but I’m not sure after that.

  • NinjaMountie

    No, there are plenty of other silly Steelers fans out there. 😉

  • pcantidote

    You are probably the only fan that is even thinking about Ben’s replacement right now.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    what wrent wrong first half:
    first quarter

    first balt drive

    first play dupree stoned, cant get off block. balt +3 yards.

    third play 3rd and 8. dupree pushed way out of play. (about 10 feet). pass to woodhead gay in coverage. gay way out of the picture, gravewobble nearest. easy first down. balt + 20 yards

    fourth play dupree cant decide to attack or drop ball over his head balt + 9 yards.

    fifth play no one covering right flat. sensabaugh covering right out route. easy first down sensabaugh missed tackle. alulalu takes him down. balt + 14 yards ish.

    sixth play. heyward misses block watt cleans up.

    davis interception…. didnt see the alualu hold. but camera shot not great.

    first pitt drive.

    first play big al gets blown by on a speed bull. bell dropped. pitt +1 yard

    second balt drive.

    6:59 first play: dupree pushed out.

    second play. sensa 4 yards off balt + 11 yards

    third play tuitt cant get off block. dupree is inside on a stunt. misses runner. balt +7 yards

    fifth play 3rd and 3. dupree washed out. davis gives up first down. balt + 8 yards.
    side note espn play by play says burns but burns was about 5 yards back. was davis who pushed him out.

    6th play burns gives up play. left side. balt + 6 ish.

    7th play deebo and alualu get stop. sensabaugh looks lost.

    second pitt drive.

    third play
    3:08 connor in for bell. nix misses a block, foster cant get off his. dropped for no gain.

    6th play brown falls +2 yards.
    also. pringle pringle turbo turbo.

  • Conserv_58

    I think he has the speed. He’s definitely faster than any other ILB they have not named Shazier. A couple of us have already said that it might be better for Bud and the team for him to convert to ILB.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    as far as i know thats the only one at the moment.

  • pcantidote

    Glad I’m not the only one. I suppose it would be too hard to make that change mid-season? He has to better than Moats and Spence right now.

  • Conserv_58

    You were not alone. When Ben walked on the field with little over two minutes left on the clock I just knew he was going to rise to the occasion because that’s just how Ben rolls. The man is money in that scenario.

  • BigBodyBeer

    Word. +1

  • pcantidote

    Losers – The officials. The two PI’s on Burns were a travesty, especially the second one which had me starting to think the game was fixed it was so bad. The no call on the blow to the head by Weddle. What else am I forgetting because I know there was more.

  • Conserv_58

    I agree on all points. It’s definitely worth the effort in the off season to see if he can make the transition, or not.

  • I think you got the winners right, Alex. I might add Eli to the mix. Not a great game, and certainly his days are numbered given the rise of JuJu, but he made a couple of clutch catches. Maybe he wasn’t a “winner,” but he deserves a bit of praise.

    Pretty much the whole D was lousy, though Watt was the main exception. You note the missed tackles, which was the truly glaring problem, but the coverage looked bad too. Ravens’ receivers looked wide open much of the time. Any sense of how Burns did? He didn’t look great when I was focusing on him (hard to do with a CB on TV, to be fair), nor did Sensabaugh and Sutton (though I have more patience for Sutton given how raw he still is).

    But on the O I’d add Bryant to the losers list. David Todd tweeted that he just looked lethargic, and that was right on. He made some catches, sure, but of course he’s going to when Ben throws so much. But for all his speed, he just seems to lack quickness and strength. He doesn’t have any moves, and he can’t shake off contact. If he doesn’t get the ball in space, that’s it, he’s done. We’re all hoping for that one breakout game, but more and more it looks like his best times are well behind him.

    And how about this for an easy “winner”: Ryan Shazier. That video after the game was wonderful. It’s great to see him in good spirits, and great to see what it means to be a Pittsburgh Steeler, with the whole team showing such glowing comradeship in the face of adversity.

  • pcantidote

    Eli looks more comfortable fielding punts too, which is nice to not have to worry about having to force AB back there.

  • Conserv_58

    Eli should replace Martavis on kick-offs too. At least he runs forward.

  • NCSteel

    LeVeon almost won us a fantasy playoff game singlehandedly.
    Dang it man he’s great.

  • pcantidote

    The Ravens knew they could make Bryant look stupid with those kicks. You KNOW New England will do the same. I expect Bryant’s KO return days are over.

  • Conserv_58

    BINGO.

    Martavis needs to take his gonads out of his girlfriend’s purse first.

  • Conserv_58

    Let’s hope.

  • BigBodyBeer

    Doubtful. Bud’s problem is getting caught up in hand fights and he cannot shed a block to save his life. Two qualities an ILB needs..

  • Junaid

    silly?

  • Junaid

    I get scared when Eli is back there in punt duty.

  • Junaid

    The pass rush was not there yesterday. We can’t bring only 3 guys vs Brady. I think it had to do with the ILB. Figured they were already weak at the position and didnt want to risk it. Want to see LJ get them reps, spence was out of it as well as Moats. Both missed couple of tackles.

  • Conserv_58

    I know and I’ve already said that in my intial break down. On the other hand, Bud “might” benefit from being in the middle. His not being able to shed a block and getting caught up in hands fighting can be addressed, He did attempt to address his hands when he chose to work with a boxing coach in the off season. I suggest that he seek out Tunch Ilkin and any other coach that can do a better job than Joey is with getting his hands right and for him to play with more power. Heck, coach Munchak could teach him how to use his hands and to develop a power punch.

    Did you see T.J. when he used both of his hands to swat down the hands of the ravens’ tackle to get by him?

  • Conserv_58

    Did you watch Dupree, the invisible man? He was a key reason why the pass rush was a non factor.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    its way past mid season but if chick or watt are starting left side with deebo on the right id be okay.

  • NCSteel

    Probably true but you get the idea.

  • NCSteel

    Dupree was invisible.
    A priority add in the draft.
    Again.

  • ThatGuy

    The ridiculous unnecessary roughness on AB.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    what wrent wrong first half:
    second quarter

    carr doesnt get flag on ab in end zone. bad call.
    decastro false start….didnt see anything. bad call.
    flag against canaday in end zone. i see holding BEFORE the end zone. nothing in end zone. bad call. both tripped.

    third baltimore drive. where nonsense begins.

    first play. dupree washed out. gravewobble cant get off block. balt +5

    second play. gravewobble cant get off block. dupree washed out. davis finishes it.

    third play. so much bad.
    sutton whiffs on tackle. dupree whiffs on tackle. tuitt whiffs on tackle spence and mitchell finishes.

    fourth play. dupree pushed out of play watt with pressure. vince williams doesnt block out the edge. first down

    fifth play. first deebo play. chickillo on left side. so much bad.
    chickillo, walton, mitchell and williams all whiff on tackles. walton finally gets him down.

    sixth play. davis & spence whiff on tackles. balt + 4 ish.

    seventh play. davis gives up touchdown.

    third pitt drive
    bryant return attempt instead of fair catch/letting it bounce for toucback. 9 yards. smh

    first play.
    pouncey doesnt get a good block. +2 yards

    second play
    nix cant get to outside. +4 yards

    sixth play. ben sacked. hubbard and jesse and later al whiff on blocks. ben should have thrown it away.

    seventh. short pass to bryant. bad. -1 yard.

    eighth play. weddle knifes right through foster and al. ben makes an idiotic attempt to throw. almost intercepted.

  • Michael James

    Well said.

  • pcantidote

    There it is. I knew there was another WTF moment that I was forgetting. Very bizarre calls.

  • srdan

    Yeah my iphone gets so hot now when i use the site. I only use it on the comptuer anymore.

  • NinjaMountie

    Yup, silly.
    I hope the QB we do get to replace Ben has a lot more talent and pedigree than Dobbs.

  • Dan

    Winners = Tomlin/Butler for masterfully feigning so many weaknesses on defense in their deception plan against Belichik. Ole Bill and Josh will have so much Steeler film to sift through they won’t be able to game plan their own defense.

  • Dan

    Gotta admit Sean Payton is right, the officiating is especially bad this year. Maybe the officials all liked Blandino so much they’re blowing this season to get him back.

  • srdan

    0% chance he retires. Ben is a pro bowl QB this year. Brady….and who?

  • srdan

    I really liked his slap at stanley in the second quarter. Watt just gets it. That was a great move.

  • srdan

    I don’t get your argument. Both were wrong.

  • srdan

    To your point, my Indian coworker is here and we watched highlights over bagles this morning on ESPN. He knows about football as much as you and I know about cricket. Anyway- he saw AB with the YAC and turned to me and said, that is the best athlete I’ve ever seen. Not teh biggest endorsement, but AB jumps off the screen when you watch him.

  • PittShawnC

    Winner: LB’s left cleat. Had it been planted on the hit he got banged up on, not sure he’d be playing again for a while.

    Loser: MB. Add getting fired from KO return duty to his resume of contributions this season.

  • srdan

    1 Run blitzes vs a zone scheme, sheeeesh man. That is Russian roulette.
    2 Games aren’t won or lost on bubble screens. And to our novice eye, how do you know he isn’t setting up plays by making corners honor the screens.
    3 Yeah, they disappear until it really matters. It’s a head scratcher.
    4 I disagree. He blocks his behind off. he just doesn’t look as explosive as the guy we are used to seeing.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    what wrent wrong first half:
    first quarter

    first balt drive

    first play dupree stoned, cant get off block. balt +3 yards.

    third play 3rd and 8. SO MUCH BAD. dupree pushed way out of play. (about 10 feet). pass to woodhead gay in coverage. gay way out of the picture, gravewobble nearest. easy first down. balt + 20 yards

    fourth play dupree cant decide to attack or drop ball over his head balt + 9 yards.

    fifth play no one covering right flat. sensabaugh covering right out route. easy first down sensabaugh missed tackle. alulalu takes him down. balt + 14 yards ish.

    sixth play. heyward misses block watt cleans up.

    davis interception…. didnt see the alualu hold. but camera shot not great.

    first pitt drive.

    first play big al gets blown by on a speed bull. bell dropped. pitt +1 yard

    second balt drive.

    6:59 first play: dupree pushed out.

    second play. sensa 4 yards off balt + 11 yards

    third play tuitt cant get off block. dupree is inside on a stunt. misses runner. balt +7 yards

    fifth play 3rd and 3. dupree washed out. davis gives up first down. balt + 8 yards.
    side note espn play by play says burns but burns was about 5 yards back. was davis who pushed him out.

    6th play burns gives up play. left side. balt + 6 ish.

    7th play deebo and alualu get stop. sensabaugh looks lost.

    second pitt drive.

    third play
    3:08 connor in for bell. nix misses a block, foster cant get off his. dropped for no gain.

    6th play brown falls +2 yards.
    also. pringle pringle turbo turbo.

    what wrent wrong first half:
    second quarter

    carr doesnt get flag on ab in end zone. bad call.
    decastro false start….didnt see anything. bad call.
    flag against canaday in end zone. i see holding BEFORE the end zone. nothing in end zone. bad call. both tripped.

    third baltimore drive. where nonsense begins.

    first play. dupree washed out. gravewobble cant get off block. balt +5

    second play. gravewobble cant get off block. dupree washed out. davis finishes it.

    third play. SO MUCH BAD.
    sutton whiffs on tackle. dupree whiffs on tackle. tuitt whiffs on tackle spence and mitchell finishes.

    fourth play. dupree pushed out of play watt with pressure. vince williams doesnt block out the edge. first down

    fifth play. first deebo play. chickillo on left side. SO MUCH BAD.
    chickillo, walton, mitchell and williams all whiff on tackles. walton finally gets him down.

    sixth play. davis & spence whiff on tackles. balt + 4 ish.

    seventh play. davis gives up touchdown.

    third pitt drive
    bryant return attempt instead of fair catch/letting it bounce for toucback. 9 yards. smh

    first play.
    pouncey doesnt get a good block. +2 yards

    second play
    nix cant get to outside. +4 yards

    sixth play. ben sacked. hubbard and jesse and later al whiff on blocks. ben should have thrown it away.

    seventh. short pass to bryant. bad. -1 yard.

    eighth play. weddle knifes right through foster and al. ben makes an idiotic attempt to throw. almost intercepted.

    4th balt drive.
    first play. sutton about 5 yards off. balt +18 yards

    second play. SO MUCH BAD. POSSIBLY WORST PLAY IN GAME.
    moats cant get him down. davis whiffs.heyward cant get to the edge. vince is at edge just watches.
    balt +37 yards.

    third play. balt +9 yards. sutton misses big time on blitz. dupree pushed out for the 500th time. mitchell kind of weak tackle. allen gets another 3 yards after contact.

    fourth play. gravewobble and spence give up first down.

    fifth play. SO MUCH BAD
    dupree, davis, williams all miss on blocks, sutton taken down.

    4th pitt drive.

    fourth play. ben sacked but the entire line got blown up and so did all the targets so. good playmaking by baltimore.

    fifth play. brown throws into double coverage for ab. dumb. rogers WIDE open right flat.

    “legal snap” they were going to review play but they had already snapped ball.

    seventh play. ben goes way deep for bryant. rogers, mcdonald open up underneath. YOU HAVE A TIME OUT. GO FOR OPEN GUYS and then run another play or kick it. dont go for broke.

  • srdan

    hahaha bud at ILB. the guy can’t read a tackle, let alone Oline, Dline and full back in front of him. Cmon man!

  • Michael Mosgrove

    by my review of first half. dupree was shut out on 9 different plays.

  • srdan

    Great point man. This defense was build on Shaziers speed. You take that out, we have to adjust the whole scheme. It will take a few weeks. It’s gonna be ugly until at least the browns game.

  • srdan

    I despise posts like this. Take another look at your glass, look for the water.

  • Chris92021

    Bud is a 1st round athlete, 7th round football player. If he was taken in the 3rd round, we would all love that guy. Given he went in the 1st with all the expectations that come with it, he’s a disappointment. Not a bust but a disappointment.

  • Jack Hambert

    I’m curious what prompted you to suggest that? He didn’t show much in pre-season. There will be a handful of high pedigree QBs coming on the market should Ben retire. Eli Manning, Kirk Cousins, Drew Brees, Alex Smith. With the talent on offense, i’d think they would go for a proven commodity should Ben retire.

  • Jack Hambert

    Where is Jarvis Jones nowadays? Joking….

  • Nick Sabatella

    Been saying for a bit now it would be nice to have a rotation at OLB where bud is the one losing snaps to Deebo. TJ can rush more effectively from Bud’s LOLB spot than bud can.

  • rodeysl

    Gotta add coaching to this list as a loser. In the 3rd quarter when the Ravens took control of the game, why were Watt and Dupree on the sideline while James Harrison and Chickillo on the field until the Ravens got inside the red zone? If it was to stop the run, it didn’t seem to work. Why did Tomlin not accept the 5 yard illegal shift penalty when the Ravens were driving for a late field goal? How does a team whose head coach was a DB coach and preaches discipline have a secondary that’s is on a record setting pace for big pass plays against and continues to take dumb penalties?

  • Daryl Bennett

    Some how your point was lost in the recap.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    i was pointing out who made the most mistakes. this was only the first half of last night’s game. i need a beer before i watch the second half.

    dupree by a large margin was the worst player on the field.

    davis was the next worst player.

    bryant after that.

    in the first half
    dupree got wiped out of 9 plays.
    burns got wiped out of 2. gravewobble had a couple.
    sutton had a few.
    sensabaugh had a few.
    moats had a few.

  • Daryl Bennett

    I don’t think that anyone is interested in reading your negative column. We all watched the game.

  • Steve

    Ravens ran right at Tuitt, who was blown out all night. Please add Stephon to the looser list.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    I’ll put it like this and anyone may disagree: AB is the most electrifying player I’ve ever seen play. Puts you in the mind of Reggie Bush in college. When he gets the ball something is going to happen! It’s gotten to the point where teams can’t stop him.

  • walter

    Why are you surprised?

  • Jaybird

    Lol. I still say a few Johnny Dangerously quotes now and then : my mother hit me once. ONCE!

  • Balok’s Plight

    Spence is not the answer

  • Balok’s Plight

    He is too small and too slow

  • Balok’s Plight

    He is too small and too slow. I miss Timmons

  • Michael Mosgrove

    he’s not small. but he is a bit slow.

  • Eric C. Brown

    It doesn’t seem like he’s had his best season and there has been some great quarterback play this year. Wentz, Brady, Brees, Russell Wilson, Rivers, Goff, Deshaun Watson . . . PFF thinks he’s been better than all but three of them?

    He’s only had one season in the past decade (2011) with a lower passer rating. He’s on pace to throw more picks in a season than he has since 2006. Lowest completion percentage since 2012. I’ve seen Ben play better. Love the dude and it will be a sad, dark day when he hangs it up but #4 seems a bit high based on this season’s production. That’s all.

    Might also have something to do with the fact I was at both the Jacksonville and Chicago games. I got to see our worst two games of the year live.

  • Balok’s Plight

    Enjoy the ride man

  • Ok, I still don’t want them to take that final week off because they’ll have a bye. Someone will becoming to Pit and I don’t want to be rusty against either of those teams. 2 weeks off may be too long.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    what wrent wrong first half:
    first quarter
    first balt drive
    first play dupree stoned, cant get off block. balt +3 yards.
    third play 3rd and 8. SO MUCH BAD. dupree pushed way out of play. (about 10 feet). pass to woodhead gay in coverage. gay way out of the picture, gravewobble nearest. easy first down. balt + 20 yards
    fourth play dupree cant decide to attack or drop ball over his head balt + 9 yards.
    fifth play no one covering right flat. sensabaugh covering right out route. easy first down sensabaugh missed tackle. alulalu takes him down. balt + 14 yards ish.
    sixth play. heyward misses block watt cleans up.
    davis interception…. didnt see the alualu hold. but camera shot not great.

    first pitt drive.
    first play big al gets blown by on a speed bull. bell dropped. pitt +1 yard

    second balt drive.
    6:59 first play: dupree pushed out.
    second play. sensa 4 yards off balt + 11 yards
    third play tuitt cant get off block. dupree is inside on a stunt. misses runner. balt +7 yards
    fifth play 3rd and 3. dupree washed out. davis gives up first down. balt + 8 yards.
    side note espn play by play says burns but burns was about 5 yards back. was davis who pushed him out.
    6th play burns gives up play. left side. balt + 6 ish.
    7th play deebo and alualu get stop. sensabaugh looks lost.

    second pitt drive.
    third play
    3:08 connor in for bell. nix misses a block, foster cant get off his. dropped for no gain.
    6th play brown falls +2 yards.
    also. pringle pringle turbo turbo.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    what wrent wrong first half:
    second quarter
    carr doesnt get flag on ab in end zone. bad call.
    decastro false start….didnt see anything. bad call.
    flag against canaday in end zone. i see holding BEFORE the end zone. nothing in end zone. bad call. both tripped.

    third baltimore drive. where nonsense begins.
    first play. dupree washed out. gravewobble cant get off block. balt +5
    second play. gravewobble cant get off block. dupree washed out. davis finishes it.
    third play. SO MUCH BAD.
    sutton whiffs on tackle. dupree whiffs on tackle. tuitt whiffs on tackle spence and mitchell finishes.
    fourth play. dupree pushed out of play watt with pressure. vince williams doesnt block out the edge. first down
    fifth play. first deebo play. chickillo on left side. SO MUCH BAD.
    chickillo, walton, mitchell and williams all whiff on tackles. walton finally gets him down.
    sixth play. davis & spence whiff on tackles. balt + 4 ish.
    seventh play. davis gives up touchdown.

    third pitt drive
    bryant return attempt instead of fair catch/letting it bounce for toucback. 9 yards. smh
    first play.
    pouncey doesnt get a good block. +2 yards
    second play
    nix cant get to outside. +4 yards
    sixth play. ben sacked. hubbard and jesse and later al whiff on blocks. ben should have thrown it away.
    seventh. short pass to bryant. bad. -1 yard.
    eighth play. weddle knifes right through foster and al. ben makes an idiotic attempt to throw. almost intercepted.

    4th balt drive.
    first play. sutton about 5 yards off. balt +18 yards
    second play. SO MUCH BAD. POSSIBLY WORST PLAY IN GAME.
    moats cant get him down. davis whiffs.heyward cant get to the edge. vince is at edge just watches.
    balt +37 yards.
    third play. balt +9 yards. sutton misses big time on blitz. dupree pushed out for the 500th time. mitchell kind of weak tackle. allen gets another 3 yards after contact.
    fourth play. gravewobble and spence give up first down.
    fifth play. SO MUCH BAD
    dupree, davis, williams all miss on blocks, sutton taken down.

    4th pitt drive.
    fourth play. ben sacked but the entire line got blown up and so did all the targets so. good playmaking by baltimore.
    fifth play. brown throws into double coverage for ab. dumb. rogers WIDE open right flat.
    “legal snap” they were going to review play but they had already snapped ball.
    seventh play. ben goes way deep for bryant. rogers, mcdonald open up underneath. YOU HAVE A TIME OUT. GO FOR OPEN GUYS and then run another play or kick it. dont go for broke.

  • Balok’s Plight

    Team looks focused, less showboating on first downs and other nonsense

  • Conserv_58

    Loser(s): Us viewers for having to sit through having to listen to Chris Collinsworth call the game. Solution, put your remote on mute and listen to the game on SNR.

  • Conserv_58

    I was refering to his ST’s play.

  • TsarPepe

    Isn’t “despise” a little too strong in this context? What exactly do you “despise”? The fact that someone refuses to jump for joy because we beat the Ravens, 38-39? Anyone with an ounce of brain knows that this team will be measured by whether they can overcome the hurdle called New England Patriots. A defense that generated no QB pressure whatsoever, and gave up 38 points (at home) to one of the most pathetic offenses in the league will have to stop Brady. Think about that.

  • Conserv_58

    Yup. It was all predicated on the preconceived notion that the Steelers/ravens games are always very physical. The refs were on hyper sensitivity mode, to a fault.

  • Conserv_58

    Marginally.

  • Conserv_58

    You’re spot on. They also went after Sensabaugh in the passing game. Then again, Sean Davis was running around like a chicken with its head cut off. I began to wonder if he was in over his head.

  • LucasY59

    loss of down was more important than 5 yds on that last drive

  • Conserv_58

    Suggs had a couple of sacks last night, but what impressed me was he never attempted to knock Ben out with a kill shot. He earned alot of respect from me for that.

  • Conserv_58

    Mike was playing on a bad ankle and has been for most of the season. He still can’t plant and put pressure on it.

  • Ehrren Lee Phyzeque

    I have no choice but to place Todd Haley on the losers list. There were 3 straight three-and-outs 3 straight drives after halftime wasted. You cannot waste anything in big games like that. Offenses have to capitalize be aggressive & get up on the opponent ASAP. Once the clear advantage is established then you coast & bring in the closer. This notion of running Bell directly into or diving into the Oline then falling down on 1st & 2nd Downs has to stop. It’s a noworking drive killer. Why do they always seem to get a sense of urgency and more aggression only when they’re losing. Gotta jump on teams early especially with how the defense is playing.

  • Conserv_58

    Apparently you didn’t notice Ben was audibling a lot last night. Not every bad offensive series is Haley’s fault.

  • Joseph Nerges

    Dupree should be on the sidelines all the time.

  • Joseph Nerges

    You can’t get any more scared then when your watching MB let the kickoffs hit the ground first.

  • Joseph Nerges

    He certainly has the speed but does he have the brains to play the ILB position. I’d like to trade him right now for a 7th draft pick.

  • Ehrren Lee Phyzeque

    Whatever happened last night whether audible or not they have no business diving Le’Veon Bell directly into the Oline, wasting series, and allowing Baltimore back into the game. They need to capitalize when they need to capitalize and not only when they’re behind or losing

  • Ehrren Lee Phyzeque

    Yeah, I do know that Roethlisberger does audible a lot. But I have to believe when he audibles he would tend toward passes. It’s hard to believe Roethlisberger with audible repeatedly toward Bell dive runs especially repeatedly. And Haley has a way of trying to set up later plays.

  • steelburg

    Your right. That whole left side got abused.

  • SouthernSteel

    MB made some plays…. short KO was a tuff play..saved a safety and has ability to “take it to the House” …..please keep MB on kickoffs

  • SouthernSteel

    Sure glad the people on here leaving comments don’t run the Steelers ….or we be more like the Browns..wtf 39 points on offense…lost our best DB LB OL and have #1 seed for playoffs …fire everyone then trade all our players….hmm sounds just like what the Browns do every year…..

  • pittfan

    +100

  • pittfan

    Lol

  • Don

    39 points, 545 yards, and 31 first downs–against the Ravens, no less. Fire the OC! LOL! Do I support every call or decision made? Of course not. I get especially frustrated sometimes with the overuse and lack of execution on WR screens. But let’s be serious here, the offense is not a problem. If you’re expecting to score a TD on every possession, you’re going to have trouble enjoying yourself as a fan of any team.

  • pittfan

    Feast or famine with MB.

  • John Pennington

    Biggest losers was the Linebackers and secondary all of them in tackling.No one wants to wrap up when tackling plus the secondary still can’t figure out who to cover or where to be in coverage.They all have a week to figure it out or they will get their ass handed to them.They get paid to do a job then they all need to do the the job.If anyone feels they don’t want to tackle or know their assignments then its time to bench them until they figure it out.Sunday will tell the tale..Who willing to change their bad habits or who is going thru the motions.We all know who those players are and so do they.

  • Don

    I thought something looked wrong with Martavis, too. Effort has not been an issue so far this season, even when he hasn’t produced a lot of numbers. Was he perhaps sick or is he hampered by some sort of nagging injury?

  • Don

    All in on this…..but, “Jimmy”? lol

  • steelmann58

    Give major props to the pair of Tackles. Hubbard and Villy. What job by them both. I also think maybe start watt in bud spot and james back in his old spot and bring bud for coverage

  • steelmann58

    They should spend all their practices tackling I thought this online and Hayward were going to explode

  • DirtDawg1964

    They rose to the occasional last night. And several other games this year. You don’t have the record Tomlin has by being “all flash”.

  • DirtDawg1964

    Well, they remain a top five defence by most measures. And they were missing Haden and Shazier. I don’t think people understand how good Shazier is. He’s a legit DPOY candidate. We had Spence in there on four days of practice after being off of a roster for the better part of two months.

    Yes, they’ve struggled with some of the same issues. However, they have put more pressure on teams and when Haden was in there they were limiting the splash plays.

    I’m not saying we don’t have reason to worry. We do. But on the whole, this team is 11-2 and putting itself in a position to make a legit SB run. I don’t see many teams, outside of NE, that are a significant threat to that, especially with Wentz down for the year.

  • Don

    Hear, hear! Well said. In a world where millions of people purposely follow and root for the Browns, Jets, etc., it’s really strange to see all the negativity around this team with its particular history, both recent and historical. I’m all for clear-eyed assessments and am well aware of the team’s flaws, but if you can’t muster an ounce of optimism for a team that’s 11-2, then why exactly do you follow the sport anyway? Thanks for reminding some of us that the Steelers roster can present problems for the other side, too.

  • steelereign

    Sure, they are a Top 5 defense, but have gotten extremely lucky with the schedule this year. I’m happy with their determination to fight back and win games they could have lost, but they shouldn’t be consistently putting themselves in those positions in the first place.

    We lost to Mike Glennon and the Bears, we lost to Bortles, and very easily could have lost to Jacoby Brissett and Brett Hundley. The Steelers have made it a far too common occurrence to allow young & inexperienced or career back-up type QBs to beat them or put the fear of God in them.

    Haden & Shazier being out doesn’t help, but these issues existed with then ON the field. To me, IMHO, there has to be a coaching change or two to shake up this defense. I’m not talking about Tomlin, he’s fine. But Porter, Lake, and Butler should all be picking up empty boxes at Wal-Mart.

  • Ni mo

    Bryant for being lazy and stopping on routes , and couldn’t handle kick offs

  • Ni mo

    He got in Mike Wallace azz twice and they called PI which was BS

  • ThePointe

    If you have a few minutes, and want a quick pick-me-up head over to Balt Beatdown and read some comments. Always fun to hear other fans anguish over their team losing.

  • The Tony

    Too many B’s

  • The Tony

    I’d honestly like to see Dupree in the middle

  • The Tony

    We had timeouts to use when baltimore decided to pass twice

  • Charles Haines

    I agree, If Flacco can put up 38 pts………wow, don’t even want to think about it.

  • BigBodyBeer

    I’m in total agreement with you. Sure, they had a huge offensive game against a great Baltimore D, however, that was some poor situational football to begin the second half. With the defensive woes, the offense needs to not let up on the throttle. It’s sooo predictable too. Two dives and a pass.. you can never set up PA if the defense knows your MO which has been displayed week in and week out.

  • The Tony

    Reggie Bush at USC was just unfair to watch. 8.7 YPC his junior year.

  • Don

    Right, as opposed to here where some people anguish over a win. 🙂

  • The Tony

    That was a beautiful move to swat Stanley’s hands down and disrupt the play

  • The Tony

    Linebacker Malik Jefferson from Texas or Safety Ronnie Harrison from Bama are my two picks in the first

  • The Tony

    You’re forgetting even after a win, the yinzers think the sky is falling

  • The Tony

    Davis had a rough game, but has shown when he is playing the way he is capable that he is going to be tough for an offensive coordinator to stop. Mitchell is playing on one ankle and aside from one missed tackle actually played pretty well. Bryant… agreed. Rogers was actually clutch today, so I don’t see your point there. Fort is a 4th string LB, Dupree needs to start getting some penetration or I can’t see him starting another year

  • The Tony

    We are second in the league in sacks

  • The Tony

    Watt had pressure at the end

  • Michael James

    Yep. He also seemed to be a pretty good sportsman after the game. Just compare that to Burfict, who refused to shake hands before (!) the actual game started…

  • The Tony

    I’d rather get a veteran than draft a QB. This team is built to win now and in the near future, Developing a QB will prove to be a wasted opportunity

  • The Tony

    I’d also say the D-line was putrid for most of the game which didn’t help the pass rush

  • The Tony

    The penalty would have stopped the clock if accepted. The Ravens were forced to use an injury timeout on that play

  • The Tony

    It’s hard to decide who is worse. Collinsworth or Gruden.

  • The Tony

    Also 66 drop back 0 holding calls

  • Thats is not the point, if they run the ball it likely doesn’t matter, we use our time outs to stop the clock but they get first downs by running, they were runing ar 6 or 7 yards per clip. Once we are out of time outs with 3 minutes left they only need 1 maybe 2 first downs to secure a victory. At the very least we get the ball with no time outs probably inside the 2 minute warning.

  • 太阳三联

    Ben been balling. He’s gonna do the same thing to they’re defense. As long as we have one more point IDGAF

  • JohnB

    I’ve been closely watching him a lot this year. He does a lot of non highlight plays and he’s always around the ball. He’d also have more sacks if other guys didn’t get there a split second sooner

  • Iulo

    here is where PIT misses Timmons… best ability is availability.. don’t get me wrong, just saying that man was really of steel
    saw again the game… I have even no idea wha spence playeed instead of Fort… Forst must have been awful during the week.. can’t explain it

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Exactly!

  • Steve

    Dupree was already on the looser list. This is two games that Tuitt sucked.
    Heyward should have a nice game vrs the Pats.- #62 Thuney, is the weak link on the Oline. He was abused all night vrs Miami.

  • Japgolf

    Hey Mike hows Dupree against the run? The tape does not lie he is worse than Jones! Watch were the Ravens ran and the last 10 games then tell me how good he is!

  • Chad Weiss

    Yeah I actually agree with you now after watching the game a CPL more times I agree with every one of your statements.

  • Ehrren Lee Phyzeque

    Exactly. No better way to give a team hope then to do nothing when you have the advantage. They can let Bell dive into the ground as much as they want so long as they have a comfortable lead

  • Ehrren Lee Phyzeque

    It’s not about scoring a TD on every possession it’s about building a big comfortable lead early. Every game does not have to be a struggle and it’s actually not against the rules to beat Baltimore by more than 3 points every now and then. This offense has been a problem. We shouldn’t have to revisit the conversation about the lack of Red Zone scoring. When I See This offense dominate routinely especially on the road in the postseason then I’ll be satisfied. Playing at Heinz Field is one thing but on the road is another.

  • rodeysl

    Wrong. The clock was already stopped because of an incomplete pass.

  • rodeysl

    Absolutely wrong. When your defense is willing to concede the first down in exchange for keeping the clock running, you take the yards. Besides, 2nd and 10 means you have to average 3.3 yards a play to convert. 1st and 15 in four down territory means you have to average almost 4. Your defense is willing to concede the first down in exchange for the clock running and not giving up the big play. Taking the penalty would have made them go 5 more yards to get to Tucker’s range regardless of the down. And what happened on the next play . . . they completed a 10 yard pass which made it 1st and 10 instead of 2nd and 5 and we 5 yards closer to field goal range.

  • LucasY59

    absolutely wrong, but yet the Head Coach decided to chose the loss of down…

  • rodeysl

    And Mike Tomlin is never wrong. If you take the yardage, the Ravens are spiking it on 2nd and 5 to stop the clock instead of on 1st and 10. Playing soft zones to concede small gains to keep the clock moving means you push them 5 yards further from Tucker’s range.

  • TsarPepe

    How does the glass look now, after a pathetic Jags offense rang up 45 points on us?