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2013 NFL Draft – Round One Discussion


The 2013 NFL draft is finally here and tonight the first round selections will be made. You can use this post to discuss round one of the draft throughout the evening. Feel free to post your first round mock drafts in this post and I will add mine to it later in the day as time permits.

I will have a separate post up following the first pick made by the Pittsburgh Steelers so that everyone can discuss the pick.

This post will be stuck to the top until Friday. If there is a good amount of comments posted, I will add a post for the Friday and Saturday action.

Please don\’t make me babysit the comments. Discuss and argue, but leave mothers out of this and keep it clean.

Merry Happy Draft Day to you all.

FIRST ROUND RESULTS

Pick    Team    Player    Position    School
1.    Kansas City Chiefs    Eric Fisher    OT    Central Michigan
2.    Jacksonville Jaguars    Luke Joeckel    OT    Texas A&M
3.    Miami Dolphins    Dion Jordan    OLB    Oregon
4.    Philadelphia Eagles    Lane Johnson    OT    Oklahoma
5.    Detroit Lions    Ezekiel Ansah    DE    BYU
6.    Cleveland Browns    Barkevious Mingo    OLB    LSU
7.    Arizona Cardinals    Jonathan Cooper    G    North Carolina
8.    St. Louis Rams    Tavon Austin    WR    West Virginia
9.    New York Jets    Dee Milliner    CB    Alabama
10.    Tennessee Titans    Chance Warmack    G    Alabama
11.    San Diego Chargers    D.J. Fluker    OT    Alabama
12.    Oakland Raiders    D.J. Hayden    CB    Houston
13.    New York Jets    Sheldon Richardson    DT    Missouri
14.    Carolina Panthers    Star Lotulelei    DT    Utah
15.    New Orleans Saints    Kenny Vaccaro    S    Texas
16.    Buffalo Bills    E.J. Manuel    QB    Florida St.
17.    Pittsburgh Steelers    Jarvis Jones    OLB    Georgia
18.    San Francisco 49ers    Eric Reid    S    LSU
19.    New York Giants    Justin Pugh    OT    Syracuse
20.    Chicago Bears    Kyle Long    G    Oregon
21.    Cincinnati Bengals    Tyler Eifert    TE    Notre Dame
22.    Atlanta Falcons    Desmond Trufant    CB    Washington
23.    Minnesota Vikings    Sharrif Floyd    DT    Florida
24.    Indianapolis Colts    Bjoern Werner    DE    Florida St.
25.    Minnesota Vikings    Xavier Rhodes    CB    Florida St.
26.    Green Bay Packers    Datone Jones    DE    UCLA
27.    Houston Texans    DeAndre Hopkins    WR    Clemson
28.    Denver Broncos    Sylvester Williams    DT    North Carolina
29.    Minnesota Vikings    Cordarrelle Patterson    WR    Tennessee
30.    St. Louis Rams    Alec Ogletree    MLB    Georgia
31.    Dallas Cowboys    Travis Frederick    C    Wisconsin
32.    Baltimore Ravens    Matt Elam    S    Florida

 

1 Kansas City Chiefs Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
2 Jacksonville Jaguars Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
3 Oakland Raider Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida
4 Philadelphia Eagles Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon
5 Detroit Lions Ziggy Ansah, DE, BYU
6 Cleveland Browns Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
7 Arizona Cardinals Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
8 Buffalo Bills Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
9 New York Jets Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU
10 Tennessee Titans Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama
11 San Diego Chargers D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama
12 Miami Dolphins Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
13 New York Jets D.J. Hayden, CB, Houston
14 Carolina Panthers Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
15 New Orleans Saints Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
16 St. Louis Rams Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
17 Pittsburgh Steelers Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina
18 Dallas Cowboys Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
19 New York Giants Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina
20 Chicago Bears Kyle Long,OG, Oregon
21 Cincinnati Bengals Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
22 St. Louis Rams DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
23 Minnesota Vikings Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
24 Indianapolis Colts Arthur Brown, ILB, Kansas State
25 Minnesota Vikings Manti Te\’o, ILB, Notre Dame
26 Green Bay Packers Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State
27 Houston Texans Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
28 Denver Broncos Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
29 New England Patriots Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
30 Atlanta Falcons Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
31 San Francisco 49ers Eric Reid,FS, LSU
32 Baltimore Ravens Matt Elam, FS, Florida

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  • SteelersDepot

    Ok, let’s start with this. Sharrif Floyd to the Raiders, right?

  • steeltown

    Merry Draft Day to YOU Bryan

    I’m so excited and restless and confused and unsure all while being completely burnt out of mock drafts that I dont know anymore, I just dont know… Jarvis Jones, Cooper, Warmack, Eifert, Vaccaro, Patterson, Trade back.. ahhh who knows!??

  • steeltown

    Ha! That seems to be the consensus pick.. what about Jacksonville though.. do they go Dion Jordan or one of the OT’s…. or Ansah?

    I feel like Cleveland, Buffalo and the Jets are the three Teams that will shake up the 1st Rd

  • Bob Francis

    I’ve been thinking a lot about Wexell’s choice of Eric Reid. I could definitely see a scenario where a lot of potentially desired guys are gone: Warmack, Cooper, Austin, Vaccaro, Jones. I’d be tempted by Eifert – value pick and offensive weapon. Less tempted by Lacy, but a little. But I think a lot of safeties go off the board before they pick in 2, so you could do worse than Reid, esp. if he’s high in their board. They’ll get value at WR, RB, etc. later. And then you’ll have Reid and Golden, (hopefully) your safeties of the future.

  • mokhkw

    Short arms leave me unconvinced tbh. I think it may be OT ( Fisher or Johnson). Did you see Top 10 Draft Day Moments on NFLN? Raiders are so unpredictable. It wouldn’t shock me to see them take Tavon Austin.

  • Lamarr56

    Been waiting since the Superbowl for this day. LETS GO!

  • steeltown

    Haha! They’ll probably draft Marquise Goodman 3rd overall

  • mokhkw

    lol that 2. fastest player in the draft, they would take a Cheetah if they could get one through the combine without eating someone.

  • SteelersDepot

    I added my quick and dirty mock draft above. Have at it.

  • SteelersDepot

    Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter

    Oregon LB Dion Jordan and Alabama CB Dee Milliner, who underwent off-season labrum surgery, are expected to open training camp on PUP list.

  • http://www.amazon.com/The-Sibyl-Reborn-ebook/dp/B009KNQHSM James P. Kelly

    A redheaded angel came to me in a vision last night!
    . She said, “James, Franco wants you to be His prophet to Steeler Nation concerning tonight’s round #1 pick lest the weak lose faith and the foolish despair.
    . Naturally, her reference to Franco caught my attention…that and the fact she was a stunning redhead (a traditional weakness of mine) with black wings edged in gold. According to Gloria (the angel), God’s real name is Franco. Since I’ve always suspected this, I went with it and knew the rest was true.
    . First the bad news:
    . The Steelers’ first round selection will be Nose Tackle Delbert “Slim” Chance from Walnut State A&A (agriculture and automotive) deep in Blue Ridge Mnts of Western Tennessee. He’s 5’10″ and 376lbs, runs a 6.85 forty (but has good footwork), and can change a tire on a rental SUV without using a jack. In fact, that’s how Colbert and Tomlin met him–while travelling through TN after visiting Knoxville they suffered a flat.
    . Colbert remarked that Slim might ‘pick up’ the whole defense (or at least Ta’amu after he falls off the wagon). After pondering Slim’s vast and impressive ‘upside’ girth, Tomlin noted (while Slim was changing the flat, which exposed a crack as deep and wide as the Royal Gorge in his otherwise fortress-like facade) that his backside was impressive, too.
    . Now the good news!
    . In the first scrimmage in camp, Slim will flatten Gilbert (literally! He’ll break his ribs and deflate his lungs–luckily a ball boy will be standing by with the motorized pump used to inflate footballs. With Gilbert on injured reserve, our other offensive linemen will all escape major injuries the whole year! We’ll lead the league in rushing, give up the fewest sacks, Ben won’t miss a game, and we’ll win the SB.
    . P.S. Slim will be cut after that practice when it’s discovered he can’t stand or rise to a sitting position unaided by a fork truck if knocked on his back. It won’t matter. He’ll have performed Franco’s work!
    …Happy draft, everyone!!!

  • RW

    Man would I hate to see Matt Elam in a Ratbirds uni. Hoping we trade back to 31 and grab him right before they can.

  • steeltown

    Really.. interesting, I figured Milliner would, but Jordan..

  • http://www.facebook.com/shannon.martin.50552 Shannon Martin

    Cordarelle Patterson WR Tenn. This. team lacks playmakers after losing Wallace and mendenhall. Can help immediately in the return game. Plus this a veteran team with players that should help him reach his potential

  • Dan

    I just assembled a sample of a dozen mock drafts from the web (and you know they can’t put anything on the internet that isn’t true). According to the “experts” the Steelers will pick:
    Jones (6x), Eifert (2x), Lacy(1), Vaccaro(1), Rhodes(1) or Patterson(1).
    I was leaning towards Eifert, until Dave reminded me about David Johnson. I remember what a great camp he had last year until he got hurt. Assuming he and Miller are on schedule to return I think our depth at TE is fine. And I think they may want to give Worilds a shot instead of drafting an OLB, so this may be pretty up in the air. Even though our interior O-line is pretty good as it, I’m hoping Dave is right and one of the stud Guards will fall to us. And it seems Milliner is dropping, so he may be an option as well.

  • RW

    Interesting. Don’t think Jordan will slip past 10 because of it, but Milliner might. Don’t think we should take him if he falls to us, though.

  • steeltown

    Ha!

    “..and introducing Raiders rookie draft pick sensation.. from San Antonio, Texas #84 Chester Cheetaahhhhh!”

    Sorry, Im getting delusional

  • Nolrog

    Merry Happy Draft Day. Can’t wait until we have something that’s not speculation to talk about.

  • steeltown

    What are your thoughts on Tavon Austin?

    Personally, I do not want another undersized WR, but most have him going early

  • http://www.amazon.com/The-Sibyl-Reborn-ebook/dp/B009KNQHSM James P. Kelly

    Hi Bob! Good pick! I wondered why no one seemed to match Reid with the Steelers as his athleticism is equal to Vaccaro’s and his game tape indicate he’s a better tackler and at coverage. I like JJ Wilcox a lot for the same reasons, but Reid is a beast.

  • http://www.amazon.com/The-Sibyl-Reborn-ebook/dp/B009KNQHSM James P. Kelly

    LOL!!!

  • SteelersDepot

    I thought I swapped Tavon to the Patriots. That has been changed now.

  • SteelersDepot

    I will post a screenshot of this prior to draft starting, so God forbid I get a bunch of them right, people won’t say I edited after the fact. Only change that has been made is Austin to the Patriots.

  • dan

    would the steelers pass on vaccaro to take a guard?

  • SteelerDave

    I want some of what you are smoking, lol. One of the best responses I’ve read yet.

  • SteelerDave

    If Milliner is there, yes grab him. If Rhodes is there grab him. If Cooper is there grab him. If Lotulelei is there grab him. One of these four is sure to fall into our lap.

  • Kenneth Wilt

    First, if David “no hands” Johnson is someone who keeps us from drafting Eifert, we should be ashamed of ourselves.

    Second, if he is the #1 ranked player on their board, they should take him, no matter what else they have on their roster as no one other than Heath is a starter or even a one day starter at TE….this guy will be.

    Third, David Johnson and Eifert are so different in playing style and skill, they shouldn’t even be in the same discussion. Eifert is basically the same height and 8 pounds lighter than Gronk from NE. Anyone want to pass over him at #17? Look at their measurables from pro days and combine, and you see 2 very similar players. I don’t want to miss out just because Heath will be back eventually (at least we hope he will be the same), Spaeth was resigned, we took a guy in Paulson last year in the 7th, and another former 7th rounder was signed back as a UFA. It just doesn’t make sense to me to pass if he is there and our #1 target.

    Fourth, I have been on record that I think the following should happen:

    1. Trade out of the 17 hole if you can.
    2. Draft Eifert or one of the Olineman who falls for O, or take Jarvis Jones or an ILB.

  • SteelerDave

    MY ideal after much thought ….. Rnd 1: CB Rhodes, Rnd 2: RB Lattimore, Rnd 3: WR Rogers

  • http://twitter.com/softdrums Shea Fahr

    I am with you. I have not felt like this since..well…last year at this time just before the Draft.

  • Jason

    As much as Troy stays hurt…Vaccaro shouldn’t get past them….especially if Lacy goes at 16….draft for starters not backups

  • TheBlitz

    If they have the choice between the two, I hope they pick Vaccaro instead. He makes more sense in my opinion.

  • JohnnyV1

    I like the Steelers’ pick! As for the rest, I think one too many safeties, one too many guards and I think at least one more QB.

  • TheBlitz

    Bearing no trades or late (bad) report on prospects, here are my predictions for pick 1 through 17:

    1- Kansas (Joeckel)
    2- Jacksonville (Fisher)
    3- Oakland (Sharrif Floyd)
    4- Eagles (Milliner)
    5- Detroit (Ansah)
    6- Cleveland (Dion Jordan)
    7- Arizona (Lane Johnson)
    8- Buffalo (Geno Smith)
    9- Jets (Mingo)
    10- Tennessee (Cooper)
    11- San Diego (Warmack)
    12- Miami (DJ Fluker)
    13- Jets (Tavon Austin)
    14- Carolina (Richardson)
    15- New Orleans (Jarvis Jones)
    16 – Saint Louis (Vaccaro)
    17 – Pittsburgh (Lotulelei)

  • hergieburbur

    I think it is going to be Jarvis Vacarro. Or maybe Corderelle Cooper.

  • http://www.amazon.com/The-Sibyl-Reborn-ebook/dp/B009KNQHSM James P. Kelly

    LOL! Try oregano with a sprinkle of basil, thyme, and dried mustard seed! I hope they hit the jackpot tonight.

  • David Edward

    Austin is a virtual lock to go top 10 so falling to the Pats actually gave me a good laugh

  • Jonathon Bert Schade

    There is something wrong with this stroy…….the Blue Ridge Mountains are in EASTERN Tennessee!

  • Nolrog

    I think round 2 is too high for Lattimore. Great talent, but major injury (and very well could miss the season.) I’d consider him later on though (no earlier than 4th.)

  • Nolrog

    I’ll post my complete first round precition tomorrow, after I have more time to think about it. I tend to have amazing accuracy though. ;-)

  • Dominic Johns

    Xavier roads doesn’t drop to 30 though. My god. I would trade a 3rd and a 4th next year to get him almost. Thats a top talent.

  • Brendon Glad

    This year is a nightmare for “mock drafts”…in this year the word “mock” becomes quite aprapo…lol. Here’s what I think could be pretty likely and acceptable for me as a Steelers fan.

    1) Vaccaro FS Texas

    2) Woods WR USC

    3) Escobar TE SDSU

    Reason being, I think the Steelers had hopes for Austin then saw that it wasn’t gonna happen…thus the Sanders match. I think both Cooper and Warmack will be gone. I think the Steelers will have gut-wrenching decision between Eiffert and Vaccaro. They will choose Vaccaro, but be back in the TE mix soon after .

  • Brendon Glad

    Is Corderelle Cooper an over-weight WR, or an extremely athletic OG? lol.

  • Brendon Glad

    We will know how fast Max Stark’s agent’s cell-phone is ringing by where the Steelers pick an OT. Because they have to be worried about Gilbert. Very lucky Starks is still available once again. Provides far less pressure to reach for an OT early.

  • steeltown

    Ha!

  • Brendon Glad

    My personal hopes at this point involve: no RB’s, OLB’s, QB’s, DL, or CB’s taken until Rd. 4 or later, unless someone falls into the Steelers’ laps.
    I have way more confidence in those positions on the Steelers’ roster than most experts. I like the first 2 on the depth chart at RB. I think the OLB position will surprise people (as long as Woodley gets his health back on track), I think DL will be quite solid, and I love the upside of Allen, love Taylor more than 99% of the world, and think Gay will suffice as the 3rd corner.

  • Brendon Glad

    I think Steelers RB’s are underrated. I also think that the scouting process for RB’s is the weakest of all positions. Personally I would be content if the Steelers NEVER drafted a RB until after round 3 from here forward. No one can say that Rashard Mendenhall is better than Willie Parker, and most would argue that he’s not even better than Redman or Dwyer. So if the Steelers have found a “shanahan-esque” knack for securing quality RB’s late in the draft or as undrafted FA’s…then I say they should roll with that.

  • Dan

    I think Johnson looked strong last preseason, but agreed Eifert and Johnson would not fill the same role. I’ll be happy if we get Eifert, but if he and Cooper are both on the board that will be a tough one. I think there’s a very good chance both will be gone at 17.

  • Brendon Glad

    I agree. Drafting an OG early would actually worry me. It would state that 1 of the 2 starting OG’s that they have secured for several years are deals done that they are highly “blah” about.

  • Brendon Glad

    If Tavon Austin falls to the Patriots you will get extreme props from me…and I also will vomit…cuz he’s gonna be a darn good one.

  • hergieburbur

    If it’s both, does that make him Lane Johnson? Hasn’t he played like 5 positions?

  • SteelersDepot

    1. Kansas City Chiefs – Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan – Great kid, nasty streak, good feet & base

  • hergieburbur

    Not a bad pick, but I would have gone Joeckel.

  • SteelersDepot

    2. Jacksonville Jaguars – Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M – Surprised they didn’t trade?

  • hergieburbur

    Slightly surprised they didn’t go defensive pass rush, but they needed the tackle too.

  • hergieburbur

    Miami making a move to jump Philly? Strange trade.

  • SteelersDepot

    3. Miami Dolphins (from Oakland) – Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon – WOW. thought they traded for Johnson for sure

  • SteelersDepot

    Fat boy run back on track: 4. Philadelphia Eagles – Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma

  • hergieburbur

    Well, they need a prospect at QB too…

  • hergieburbur

    I think this makes it more likely that the OGs go early too. Teams aren’t impressed with the top end skills guys.

  • SteelersDepot

    5. Detroit Lions – Ziggy Ansah, DE, BYU

  • SteelersDepot

    fat boys winning

  • SteelersDepot

    whomp, whomp. Fat boys 7. Arizona Cardinals – Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina

    My bracket is busted

  • hergieburbur

    I think everyone’s is now. Austin going now.

  • David Edward

    Cooper and Austin gone who’s next Dave?

  • hergieburbur

    Warmack will be gone soon.

  • Brendon Glad

    I know you weren’t asking me…but I’m guessing Sharif Floyd. Seems like he’d fit well in Tenn.

  • hergieburbur

    So much for that no two OGs theory. Both in the top 10.

  • Intropy

    Come on everyone, start picking some QBs.

  • David Edward

    It was bound to happen

  • SteelersDepot

    Fat Boys 2013 – 30 year run is no more

  • hergieburbur

    GMs are mostly being smart and not reaching for a poor QB/RB/WR class.

  • hergieburbur

    I thought so too.

  • Brendon Glad

    Thought both guards would be gone…but not this early. Not upset about it at all. If the Steelers drafted a guard in the first rd. they would already be saying they don’t believe one of the 2 young guys (Foster and DeCastro) can be quality starter. So my guess remains Steelers will select Vaccaro in a gut-wrenching call over Eiffert.

  • Brendon Glad

    If both are gone, I’d expect a trade. I do not see them drafting Jones or Lacy.

  • Brendon Glad

    For this Raiders pick just check the 40 times. Usain Bolt is a possibility

  • Lamarr56

    Star still on the board, chance we take him if he’s at 17?

  • Intropy

    80%? I think he’s the best player on the board and the Steelers could use him.

  • hergieburbur

    Yeah

  • SteelersDepot

    Raiders move down & still get their guy

  • Intropy

    That pick makes no sense. Marquise Goodwin was much faster in the 40. Maybe Hayden can jump really high on one leg while holding his nose?

  • Brendon Glad

    With Hayden, I think the Raiders may have gotten one right. I credit them for avoiding their instinct and taking Usain Bolt. (He should be available in the 2nd rd. lol)

  • dgh57

    They traded to get Jordan because they were afraid he would land in Philly because of his ex-coach from Oregon Chip Kelly would be my guess as to why they made that trade! I too was expecting Lane Johnson before the name was announced.

  • Intropy

    Aww crap. So close.

  • David Edward

    But he’s gone

  • David Edward

    No more Vaccaro…Eifert or Jones?

  • hergieburbur

    Eifert, no question for me. It addresses a lot of our needs.

  • walter mason

    We lost Vaccaro. I wonder if we hadnt won that last meaningless game would we have drafted Vaccaro?

  • John Dewald

    I don’t care who is there. Trade Down!

  • hergieburbur

    Best option

  • hergieburbur

    I don’t think so. This is a deep safety draft. We don’t usually pick the top guy at deep positions.

  • SteelSpine

    It doesn’t help Steelers that all teams knew Steelers could use Cooper or Warmack or Vacarro, all those 3 were gone before end of 15th pick.

  • John Dewald

    NOOOOOOOO! Colbert’s an idiot.

  • Jefferson_St_Joe

    Worilds and Woodley are playing 2013 for 1 stack of money in 2014.

  • hergieburbur

    y?

  • David Edward

    Yeah unfortunately Jones is a C grade pick..oh well there’s still 6 more rounds to recover

  • John Dewald

    No one at 17 was worth someone else in the 20′s plus a 3rd rounder.

  • hergieburbur

    Big upside, but big risk. And it means they gave up on yet another 2nd round pick.

  • John Dewald

    This could be 2008 all over again

  • hergieburbur

    Reed was at 18 apparently. Granted Oakland boned the whole trade market.

  • scott

    Jones works well here. We’ll have the slowest LB corps in the league. I’m not happy with this pick at all. Too.many.questions.

  • Intropy

    First, Timmons and Spence (if he ever plays) are both fairly fast linebackers. Second, 40 times barely matter for any position, and less for a linebacker than, say, a receiver or corner.

  • hergieburbur

    Yeah, Speed is not why this is a meh pick for me

  • george

    I guess its the best of what’s left since warmack, cooper and vaccaro are gone. Let’s pray he’s as good as he says he is.

  • Intropy

    Don’t blame this selection on the give up. If Worilds is a bust then he’s a bust. It does you no good to bury your head now.

  • John Dewald

    Problem is, we don’t know if he’s a bust yet – but you’re not going to a 1st round pick on the bench.

  • walter mason

    Maybe they are afraid of Woodley

  • Intropy

    It’s true. We don’t know he’s a bust, but he hasn’t shown a whole let yet, and the FO clearly sees more than we do. He’s also on his last year of his rookie contract.

  • LouPGH

    Yeah, you guys should definitely hate on a guy who hasn’t played a snap for the Steelers and absolutely tore it up in the toughest conference in college football. He’s a bust! Grumble grumble grumble.

  • Intropy

    Now, to piss of the 40 times guys a bit more. I’m hoping for Teo in the second.

  • JT

    Considering they have nobody else at OLB, it wouldn’t hurt to have a great backup even if Worlids can play. It’s crucial to their defense. They need more than 2. (Not saying Jones would be the backup, Worlids hopefully would be)

  • JT

    Whether or not he’s slow, I just don’t want the headache on this team. And if anything, it’ll be magnified in a place like Pittsburgh.

  • Intropy

    It’s not like he’s a headcase or a thug getting in trouble with the law. He fell for an online scam and it got magnified by the Notre Dame spotlight (that particular mixed metaphor could roast ants). Ho-hum. It’s over.

  • JT

    Oh it’s not him. It’s the yinzers that would piss me off lol

    Plus, I like guys later.

  • Intropy

    Oh. I can kind of see that. Something like how Tebow seems like a decent human being, but his fame can be an issue. I think all that stuff would get lost in Pittsburgh once football games actually started, but I understand your opinion.

  • JT

    Football has just became so hyper analyzed in Pittsburgh. It’s gotten kind of disgusting. The second he slips, he’d be buried in dirt.

  • demented

    Thank you Mike Tomlin and Kevin Colbert for picking an over-rated LB with a degenerative spine disorder! Much better than Eifert or Rhodes or just trading out of the round and getting real talent! Just another bust draft pick since Tomlin took over!!

  • JT

    Because Rhodes went flying off the board after 17….

  • Pete

    Not happy with this pick. It’s too risky for me. Would’ve taken Eifert. Surprised Floyd has fallen so far but I think Eifert is much less risky and Cinnci takes him 4 picks later. I hope the next set of rounds are better.

  • Brendon Glad

    I’m going to stick with what works for me…which is to trust the Steelers first round selection. But I can’t say I’m excited about it. What it suggests is that the Steelers have limited belief in the OLB group. Personally, I actually HAD belief in that group, so it’s a bit disappointing to either be wrong, or not on the same page.
    I’m guessing that about 4 things went against the Steelers hopes (Both guards, Austin, and Vaccaro being gone)…and then they picked the best man available in their opinion.
    Now there IS the possibility that they project one of the young guys at ILB in a similar way as the Timmons/Woodley draft seemed to be a head-scratcher at the time.
    So once again, I’m going to stick with the history and give the Jones pick my full support once this comment with my initial concerns is finished and posted. I hope and believe that it will turn out well in the end.

  • dgh57

    Geez!!!, giving up hope already?!! I didn’t care for the pick either but there’s plenty of good talent left on the board.

  • JT

    With the team’s injury history, I want at least 3 startable OLBs.

  • Brendon Glad

    It’s a bit discouraging. But then again, recent history has shown that the Steelers need to be about 9 deep at OLB to play a 16 game season, so in a way it makes complete sense.

  • demented

    you’re right, we need a bust LB more than we need a top CB. He went at 24 right? Wait, does he have a degenerative spine that will only allow him to maybe play for 4 years? No, I don’t think he does! Biggest charity draft I have ever seen!

  • JT

    It’s still draft day. He could never play a snap in his life, and he STILL wouldn’t be a bust yet. Jesus.

    Obviously teams didn’t see Rhodes as spectacular as you are, otherwise he wouldn’t have fell to 24 or had that many CBs ahead of him.

    I appreciate your expert medical opinion.

  • demented

    SOCIAL JUSTICE!!!

  • John Dewald

    The problem is that this pick, more than any other, impacts the rest of the draft. They could possibly trade down in the second for a 4th or late 3rd rounder. But there is a wealth of talent available in the 3-4th rounds and we only have 1-pick per round. By not trading down in the 1st, we are essentially left with hoping that players fall to us.

  • LouPGH

    Rhodes doesn’t play well when lined up off his man and he missed some time in college with a knee injury. So, uh, yeah…

  • Dominic Johns

    Call me crazy but… You could play Woodley at de on passing downs. It would be interesting.

  • Jollyrob68

    Jones was the perfect fall down pick for The Steelers

  • blackandgoldBullion

    I figured with 2 picks in the 1st, Minny would have been ideal for Pitt to trade with. They just gave the Pats 4 picks for what? Number 29? Holy crap!!! should have sought out Minny and they could have gotten a couple of extra picks, maybe their 25 and grabbed DeAndre Hopkins right before Texans did. Like this move for the Texans! Oh well. Lots of depth at WR, RB, Safety, etc to help later. Could work out. Pray for Jones health. I have the same thing, and I can’t even play much lesser sports than football.

  • TheBlitz

    I see the steelers getting Keenan Allen in the 2nd and that will be a great pick to complement an already great 1st round pick!

  • Kevin Gobleck

    I have a feeling is Jones for some odd reason..

  • Russian Steel

    I predicted this pick. Jones is a GREAT PLAYER. F the 40 time…he has about 5 yards to run to get to the QB…SHEDDING BLOCKS IS MOST IMPORTANT, and he does that incredibly well using a lot of moves. He is extremely instinctive. For all you workout geeks, he’s working out with Ike Taylor already, so I assume his 40 time, etc will improve. He didn’t like working out in college ’cause he dominated without working out. It was one of the few dumb things he did, but it worked out beautifully for the Steelers. Now he will raise his game physically and mentally for the next level and dominate as a Steeler for many years. He may not contribute much his first year, but even if Worilds does awesome and starts they could always trade Worilds or let him walk eventually and get a high compensatory pick, so it will all work out great regardless if he starts this year or not. Sure he could get hurt…it’s football so injuries happen. Refer to his stats over the last two years. Obviously injuries didn’t slow him down much since he DOMINATED. Worst game was against Alabama when they had a few big runs to his side. Even so, he was double teamed most of the game and the runs were mostly the ILBs’ and D linemens’ faults since they were mostly single-blocked. Plus he still managed two sacks, a forced fumble AND one or two tackles for loss. Remember just 3 MONTHS AGO he was a consensus projected TOP 5 PICK.

  • Kevin Gobleck

    Yeah right man Jarvis was a great pick.

  • Kevin Gobleck

    I would love Teo, but call me crazy i’d love to see us grab Margus Hunt in the second.

  • PoKey21

    Looking at you mock is it safe to assume that you think Sharrif Floyd was the bigest steal of the draft? And if he really was top 5 talent do you think the Steelers should have pulled the trigger even though it wasnt a need? Top 5 talent is hard to come by halfway through the draft. What was the knock on this kid?

  • nbaballer1

    maybe because you posted after the draft. just a guess though

  • Russian Steel

    I never even watched tape of Floyd before he was picked during the draft, so I really can’t say much other than he has Ziggy Hood’s short arms which of course is not good. I’ve seen about 2 hours worth of Jones’ tape. I’ve heard about a dozen people say both good and bad about Jones…those that said bad I usually disagree with anyway so it would actually enhance my positive opinion of Jones. I was actually skeptical at first but quickly realized Jones is great. I think when Kevin Colbert says Jones was one of the 8 special players in this draft it means something. Plus OLB is a need in my opinion. Worilds and Woodley have been injured off and on the past two years. Also as mentioned in my previous post, Worilds is a free agent next year and will most likely walk, giving us an eventual high compensatory pick (just like with Wallace for the next draft). Keep in mind OLB is the most important position in a 3-4 defense. As for why Jones dropped, basically they were scared by his medical condition and 40 time. Steelers cleared him medically, etc. He is not another Ziggy Hood. By the way, I did not like the Ziggy Hood pick or the Heyward pick much for that matter. DeCastro and now Jones is much better!

  • PoKey21

    Thank you for your prompt and knowledgeable response. I know it wasnt a need, but it just seemed like a huge talent and a steal at 17. Thanks for your response I guess the injuries were a bigger worry to most than what was let out. I do understand an OLB was a major need.

  • PoKey21

    This could be the perfect year for the Steelers to add an understudy to the roster for Big Ben.We have needed 1 for a couple years now, and the need only grows more and more. Instead of dropping a high pick on a QB and adding pressure to him to perform, they can snag someone like Dysart or Bray in the 6th round. And unless their is a run on QBs in the 2nd,3rd, and 4th it looks like Glennon, Jones, or WIlson could all be left around the 4th or 5th which would be good value. If Ben goes down for a game or 2 this season like he usually does it would be great to have a rookie getting the starts and the invaluable experience learned from those starts rather than wasting it on veterans who cant get any better like the last few years with Leftwich and Batch.

  • John Dewald

    Jamarcus Russel was a consensus top 5 pick. Jamarcus Russel dominated the SEC. So what. Jamarcus Russel also had a poor work ethic.

    Jones played on a defense where over half the team is going to be picked in the top half of the draft. That’s wasn’t the case for any of the offenses he went against except maybe Alabama – and that disparity of talent won’t be the case in the NFL.

    Jones had a medical red flag, poor measurables, AND a questionable work ethic. The work ethic troubles me the most. All of that together makes this a risky pick.

    I hope it works out but given the trades that happened near 17 you will have to grade this selection against the players available at 54, 74, 83, and 102.

  • chris dimarino

    I’ve got to say that it’s hard not to be happy right now. The Steelers addressed a key need and round 1 which puts them in position to attack other key needs in the next few rounds (WR, S, RB). Particularly the second round pick already looks good. Only 16 picks before us and Woods, Hunter, Cyprien, Allen and Ertz are still there. If those guys are gone I worry a little, but if not, then the 2nd round pick should be a good fit too!

  • JC

    Tyler Eiffert being drafted by Cincinnati makes me nervous. That offense has a lot of weapons now.

  • SteelSpine

    LOL nice. Yeah look at the time of his post after the draft LOL.

  • Clint Martin

    Did this REDHEADED Angel call herself Sally? And Have abnormally large Breast’s?

  • Chris Ranieri

    Worilds URFA after this season.

  • James

    The Steelers sit 1st round picks all the time. Since 2003 they’ve done it 4 times on defense. Polamalu, Timmons, Hood, Heyward.

    This is Worilds’ year to prove himself. Jones will take a little time to learn the scheme. I hope Worilds has an amazing season (Jones too).

  • http://www.amazon.com/The-Sibyl-Reborn-ebook/dp/B009KNQHSM James P. Kelly

    Hey Jonathon! Good point! That’s what happens when a man takes everything an angel says as the gospel truth! Not only was her geography wrong, she lied about Slim!

  • http://www.amazon.com/The-Sibyl-Reborn-ebook/dp/B009KNQHSM James P. Kelly

    Yo Clint! Do you mean abnormally large with a capital “B”? I’m afraid not. Gloria was svelte and built for flight. LOL!

  • http://www.amazon.com/The-Sibyl-Reborn-ebook/dp/B009KNQHSM James P. Kelly

    I agree completely! If you watch his highlight tape (which shows his very best), most of his sacks were coverage sacks or resulted from the QB being forced to scramble. This is not an attack on Jones but rather the questioning of a lifelong fan who hates to see valuable picks wasted. Here’s the thing…for anyone who thinks a 4.9 forty doesn’t matter, the Bengals just drafted Eiffert who runs a 4.65…and our season ended last year because Cinci’s tight end dusted our OLB (James Harrison) on a crossing pattern with under a minute to go on third and long. First down, run off the clock, kick an easy field goal, season over. Meanwhile, beside the Bengals and Effiert, the Ravens grabbed Elam and the Brown got Mingo…in other words, all three of our divisional foes drafted elite players who will start immediately and whose impact will improve their performance for years. We drafted depth who might replace Woilds when he’s a RFA next year. Sigh.

  • Russian Steel

    The host of this website added some fine analysis of Jarvis Jones after the pick. I suggest reading some of it as it addresses much of your concerns. But of course in the end, it is somewhat of a crapshoot let’s face it. As for comparing him to Russell, I for one laughed when the Raiders picked him for various reasons. It’s really kind of funny that you compare Jones to Russell…I mean give Jones a little more credit than that. The Steelers in general deserve more credit than that to be compared to the Raiders I think. But I guess your style is to be negative…that’s cool I guess. If Jones sucks you can gloat you were right, if he’s mediocre you can gloat somewhat, and if he is great you can just be pleasantly surprised. I use the same ‘Negative Ned’ strategy with the Pirates, so I understand. For now though I trust in Kevin Colbert & Company.

  • Russian Steel

    I may be wrong, but I think Steelers eventually get some sort of compensation if he leaves. Wallace was UFA also when he left, and we are supposed to get a late 3rd rd pick for him next year (so the draft following the year the player leaves in free agency).

  • Kevin Gobleck

    that could be a possibility

  • John Dewald

    You seem to be saying Jones is good because Russel was really bad. That’s not much of a defense.

    Russel was just an example. I could chose plenty of others. The main point was that college production does not guarantee NFL success.

    I didn’t mention all of my concerns with Jones in the previous post because I didn’t want to repeat myself form other posts. I was just responding to your contention that Jones was a great pick because he excelled in the SEC. Hence, I pointed out that excelling in the SEC did not guarantee success.

    So I’ll summarize my point.

    Jones has a medical issue, some poor measurables, he played on a defense stocked with other NFL calibur players, and his work ethic was questioned by Dave-Te Thomas.
    That doesn’t mean I think he’s an automatic bust. That means I think he’s not a slam dunk.

    As such, it would have been (In my opinion) far better for the Steelers to trade down than select Jones at 17. That’s not being negative – that’s disagreeing.

    As for whether I’m right or Colbert et al are right, that doesn’t depend only on Jones but how the players available at 52, 74, 83, and 102 work out. Picks don’t exist in a vacuum. By choosing Jones, they choose not to selct other players. You have to evaluate the choice in that way.

  • Russian Steel

    No idea who Dave-te Thomas is. I thought Russel sucked before he played a snap at Oakland because it’s Oakland…everything Oakland does is asinine. I think Jones has a ton of real confidence that is hard to come by. He also has personal motivation that you can’t buy. His brother dying will make him do what it takes to be great. Much like Ray Rice who often cites similar motivation. He hates working out…few actually like working out. He’s a pro now…to reiterate he will do what it takes. He’s a good, smart guy who simply made a mistake by not working out. He still dominated, but it cost him a lot of money. He basically didn’t think ahead cause everything was roses for him in college (again he dominated). By the way, EVERY sack artist gets some easy sacks. Hustle sacks, beastmode sacks, easy sacks all count. He’s already training with Ike Taylor who is a great role model. Just think how much of a beast he will be when he is able to bench 450. You watch…Harrison will get fat after he leaves the league. I bet he doesn’t like working out either but does cause he has to in the NFL to be great. I don’t agree that they should have tried trading down unless they were almost certain to still get Jones. A team could have traded up for him. I did hate the 2nd rd pick Bell. I don’t get that one at all. Maybe we can agree on that one.

  • John Dewald

    Dave-Te’s the scout Dave talks to on the podcast before the draft. Anyway, I’m not arguing that Jones is bad. My point was that he’s not perfect and, in my opinion, the players at 52, 74, 83, and 102 together were much more valuable than Jones alone.

    Those picks could have been A.Brown (ILB), J.J Wilcox (S), S.Bailey (WR) or the like – and we would still have pick 102. Al those players together would be better than Jones alone.

    Yes, we agree on Bell. I have nothing against Bell either. I think he’s a good player but he’s very similar to our existing backs and the 2nd round was way too early for him.

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