Bills Starting Offense Includes Three Former Steelers

The Pittsburgh Steelers will host the Buffalo Bills this coming Sunday and their offense will include three players who will look mighty familiar.

Left guard Doug Legursky, who played in 55 games for the Steelers from 2009-2012, will presumably make his fifth straight start at left guard for the Bills Sunday at Heinz Field. An unrestricted free agent this past offseason, the Steelers decided to move on from him. In the 281 snaps that Legursky has played for the Bills so far this season, he hasn’t allowed a sack and has given up just one quarterback hit and six total hurries, according to Pro Football Focus.

At right guard for the Bills is Kraig Urbik, who the Steelers drafted in the third round of the 2009 NFL Draft. After being inactive for the entire 2009 season, the Steelers waived Urbik prior to the start of the 2010 season and the Wisconsin product would go on to sign with the Bills. Since 2010, Urbik has started 37 games in Buffalo and he’s allowed just three quarterback sacks in the 1,399 pass blocking snaps he has played.

Starting at fullback for the Bills this week will be Frank Summers, who the Steelers selected in the fifth-round of the 2009 NFL Draft. Summers rookie season in Pittsburgh was washed out by a back injury and after spending some time on the team’s practice squad in 2010, he was released for good. So far this season, Summers has played 120 snaps on offense for the Bills.

The Bills also currently have a few other former Steelers on their roster as well in defensive end Corbin Bryant and punter Brian Moorman. Moorman was in Pittsburgh during training camp and the preseason but released during the final round of cuts.

  • natty

    how has Kraig Urbik graded out since 2010 by pro football focus?

  • steeltown

    Never understood why Urbik wasn’t given more time to develop..

  • 20Stoney

    Urbik seemed like one of those guys that found his way into Tomlin’s doghouse and couldn’t get out.

  • Jollyrob68

    I still would of drafted Decastro even if Urbik pand out.

  • sean mcmartin

    Too bad our own coaches don’t see the talent.

  • He grades out similar to Ramon Foster no muss no fuss-Urbik. Lego was just going to make too much for a backup.

  • Eric

    Buffalo’s GM also said he was modeling his strategy to mimic the Steelers philosophy

  • cencalsteeler

    Your question just might be the answer to the Steelers problem. Alan Baxter, Wylie, Devin Smith, Isiah Green, Ta’amu, Hawthorne, etc. Never had time to develop and were replaced by players who were brought back after being cut, or replaced by other teams castaways.

  • cencalsteeler

    Oh, and how could I have forgot? They released some young prospect to bring in Gordon. Yes, Gordon, how could I have forgot about him?

  • HopalongCassidy

    I think Tomlin shows deep seeded racial prejudices in evaluating players. It may not be something he even realizes.Tomlin dumped Urbik and Legursky in favor of players with less ability. Further, he waived Brian Arnfelt to the Practice Squad when he clearly outperformed most of the D linemen he kept on the roster. The Steelers could have used both Urbik and Legursky and the O-line would have been better off for it. They have clearly proved they were better players than Tomlin gave them credit for being, so how do you explain this ? If Tomlin isn’t able to be purely objective in evaluating talent or is just a poor judge of talent to begin with, he should not be a head coach in my opinion.

  • steeltown

    Ta’amu, Baxter and Green, especially look like they can or could’ve contributed

  • SteelersDepot

    really? playing the race card? you people kill me.

  • Maybe but Ta’amu is not exactly lighting AZ on fire 2 tackles on the season one solo.

  • Yeah especially when the quarterback is w

  • steeltown

    That’s a little misguided… for example the original player that was to take Legurskys spot after his departure was Malecki who was ultimately released in favor of Cody Wallace (both caucasian)

    And Arnfelt has every chance to make the Team next year, when you have experienced players like Keisel, Heyward, Hood etc you don’t replace them with first year undrafted guys that played well against 2nd and 3rd stringers in preseason

  • If you want to complain about his performance, the win loss record, evaluation of players fine.

    But the race card^ most ignorant beetle headed post of the year. You should put your head down that is just stupid! You BOOB

  • A little you sir are far too kind.

  • steeltown

    Ha… indeed

  • CrazyTerry

    Yeah Max Starks white skin was definitely the reason why he got a raw deal by Tomlin.

  • CrazyTerry

    Legursky looked overpowered at guard when he was here. Is the coaching at Buffalo better? their OL improved after Kugler left.I dont know. Just speculating.

  • HopalongCassidy

    What does the QB have to do with it ?

  • you are far too low brow to converse with

  • SteelersDepot

    Consider this strike one. Oh, I only give two strikes. Come to think of it, I might just ban you to make an example out of you.

  • Alan Felicia

    Last checked, Baxter, Wylie, Smith, and Hawthorne are all sitting at home as free agents. Thinking coaching staff made the right move.

  • HopalongCassidy

    Nobody is playing the “race card” . Every racial group has a greater affinity to their own race. That is human nature. When evaluating players, it is possible to unknowingly give a greater benefit of the doubt to your own race when making a close judgment call. Frankly, I suspect that I have hired more minorities in my lifetime than you ever dreamed about so don’t mistake me for something I am not. Finally, I don’t play the liberal PC game where you can’t openly discuss the reality of things without be labeled. I didn’t say Tomlin was a blatant racist who doesn’t like white players nor do I believe that. However, I firmly believe that the performance of both Urbik and Legursky tell me that Tomlin erred in his judgment of them. If my opinion is that he may be slightly more partial to one group over another because of his own human experiences, then I see nothing that makes that an invalid argument. perhaps I did not express this in the most artful way.

  • You want a shovel to go with that hole

  • very poorly graded that year

  • T R

    you are making no sense… Dave.. can he get most ignorant comment of the day?

  • If there is an award for worst online comment of the week he’s got my vote

  • 20Stoney

    I don’t agree with what he said, but I don’t think it was “ban worthy.” He’s entitled to his opinion.

  • What is that young prospect doing? Probably one of the people on here

  • when its your show you do whatever you want

  • Lucus Rodriguez

    Hes the starting nose tackle on a top 5 rushing defense. Tackles are not how you grade a NT. I live in Az and watch the games. He plugs up the middle like a man.

  • Virdin Barzey

    By time you throw in Mendy, Limas Sweed, Tony Hills, Ryan Bundy, Ziggy Hood, Craig Urbik to your list, its beyond clear we are in the mess we are in this year and going forward.

    You can’t miss on some many players with getting top free agents to replace them. Colbert as good as he has been, seems to be coming up short on a number of picks.

  • Lucus Rodriguez

    Don’t really agree with the comment. But isn’t the point of this website to be a forum/blog to discuss our OPINIONS. His comment is dumb, but that is how he feels. I think proving him wrong and making him/this comment look as dumb as it really is, would be the better route to go. Not banning him. Dumb.

  • SteelersDepot

    When you leave race out of it, yes.

  • Dutchess Hershberger

    he actually is lighting it up, hes doing exactly what a 3-4 tackle should do occupy blockers, I just cant understand why they let him go he looked really good in preseason and he has the body the steelers need

  • Dutchess Hershberger

    moron, hes drafted white guys black guys samoan guys and failed at all of them don’t think that is racist when you fail at all of them

  • Dutchess Hershberger

    Tomlins inablilty to evaluate talent is the number one reason this team stinks, will stink for quite some time, and has no chance of getting better as long as he has say in drafting players, players drafted in the first four rounds form the foundation of every good team and hispicks have stunk mendenhall sweed davis, hills, urbik, hood, worilds, Gibson, gilbert, brown, alllen, adams, ta;amu and spence whose done, spaeth, sepulvada, all busts or below average starters that’s 16 out of 24 players that were flat out busts 67 percent!!!!!!! the sad part for steelers fans,myself included, are the rooneys are loyal to a fault, so we are stuck with coach cliché and his talent evaluation skills

  • I think that was part of, along with a complete mis-evaluation of Tony Hills.

  • Shannon Stephenson

    I am still upset at the Urbik release.

  • SumnerYoung

    Exactly. The issue here is not race. The issue is poor talent evaluation, period. I blame Tomlin and I blame Colbert equally. They need get it together quickly, or they will be facing a rebuild similar to what Jacksonville is currently going through.

  • SumnerYoung

    Probably right. But if it was determined Urbik was the RG and the Steelers had kept him, they may have drafted Dont’a Hightower with the Decastro pick. They were very high on him. You would thus be seeing Timmons and Hightower as the men in the middle of our defense. Nevertheless, I am very excited about Decastro. I just hope they find or somehow develop some of these other O-lineman.

  • treeher

    Race comments aside, it’s a dumb comment. What I see is trying to compare one so-so player with another. I wish we had the stand-out talent there, and then there wouldn’t be an issue.

  • Bell Cow

    Can’t look at the stats for a NT. Hampton never put up big number.

  • Bell Cow

    Apparently there were some maturity issues with Urbik when he first was drafted. I have a friend who interned on the training staff for the Steelers and he recalls Urbik being kicked out of practice a few times for being late and apparently looked hungover. I don’t know if that’s entirely the reason but it does come from a first hand source.

  • Bell Cow

    I should also note that he missed time due to injury so that probably played a big factor.

  • malsor

    how about alan baxter the only other olb on the roster in preseason that showed he at least could rush the passer. granted he has know clue the other parts of a 3-4 olb but isnt that what coaching is for? jjones has no pass rush moves, the slowest 40 time ever for an OLB drafted anywhere near that high and one of the weakest upper bodies as evidenced by his awful bench press drill. lets see suggs ran a 4.9 v 4.93 for jones but he weighs 265 v 245 and is as strong as an ox. and guys that are not as strong usually are very quick off the edge. or they have perfected at least one pass rush move. i think jjones could be a mlb but not what we need across from woodley. how come we have gervin, carter, sylvester, wilson, even worilds on the team but not baxter even on the PS? heck maybe jones will be a good olb but why have gervin, carter, wilson, sylvester tying up the roster during a 4 win season is mind blowing.

  • malsor

    yeah same with keenan lewis: the only guy that they had to sign in the offseason IMO. they finally developed a guy that was going into his second deal (which is how u build a good team) and they had clark, tp,and taylor all IMO likely to at least lose a step (in clarks and taylors case more) and the collective whole of the unit could suffer alot more than just losing one player. they could have signed gay as well. but when u sign crap like burress, gradkowski (then draft a qb in the 4th round!), foote, whimper, speath, f. jones, 50 tes, etc. just secure your one good young affordable player. c. allen is much better in the slot where he can match up against big tes and fast slot wrs. now he has to play on the outside. taylor could have been a number 2 with lewis the one. and it wasnt even about this year but next year with so many holes needed now we need a cb also. taylor might have even made a good FS at least it would have bought them time to not NEED another position right away next year. never made him an offer and he signed for a very reasonable 4 year 10 million guaranteed. 2.7 million cap charge this year. as far as the race thing please coaches dont care if a guy is purple if he thinks it will help his team win..

  • Brendon Glad

    I took a full-whiff on Urbik. Man, he looked so top-heavy, clumsy, and slow as a Steeler, that I was fully on board with that cut. I’m eating that one.
    Frank Summers, well, he was a FB…so I just have to give him credit for sticking with it. I can’t even pretend to act like I knew one way or the other with him, but I must admit, his cut didn’t bother me either when it happened.
    On Legursky: I would have liked to see a better attempt to keep…but wasn’t crushed when he left. Bottom line: If I was the GM and had to pick Foster or Legursky, I would have gone with Foster then, and actually still would now. That one still has some games to be played before I swallow that one.

  • AndyR34

    Don’t worry…Legs will be back…in a year or two, Buffalo will upgrade at LG and Legs will get cut…we’ll sign him back at vet minimum “for depth” and because he knows the system!

  • joed32

    None of those players are on an NFL roster except for Ta’Amu who is with the Cards (4 tackles) and neither is Baxter.

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  • srdan

    hahaha. Hobalong, I am surprised that Dennis Dixon is not starting at QB.

    One of the reasons tomlin was brought in is because he doesn’t rule with an iron fist. Haley and Arieans and their position coaches were there to evaluate as well.

    Legursky is a casualty of a team trying to move in a different direction. Yes, you could have eeked out another season out of him, but then what,? This way Ramon is not much better or worse, but can be around for 7-8 years.

  • srdan

    I understand what you are trying to do Dave and I appreciate you trying to keep the forum clean. I post on a bunch of forums where racial comments ruin them.

    However I believe this is different. I think he stated an opinion that is not offensive but is based on race. And that would be OK if I was the moderator.

  • Can’t really tell tho he is playing next to Dockett who is awesome

  • They could not afford both Lewis and Taylor it was one or the other. And there is a lot of discussion that happens between a team and an agent before a formal contract is offered.

    We simply did not have the cap room, and it was not like he was intercepting a ton of passes. The steelers pass defense as a whole is not the problem. Being ranked 31st in run defense is.

  • Your ignoring

    And Gilbert has graded out very nice as a tackle not great but ok

    So if you are going to point out negatives you have to also point to the positive

  • DeCastro #5 rated guard point defeated

  • malsor

    of course they had the cap room; lewis cost 2.7 mill this year. u know the equivalent of that : gay, speath and whimper =2.7 mil. that is a myth and they signed a ton more of crap retreads (gay was the only decent signing) like burress, gradkowski (and then drafted a qb in the 4th), 5 tes, f. jones, etc. plus taylor was coming off the books until they extended him. i still cant believe that people think we couldnt afford k. lewis.. the steelers may have thought that and hence they made gay the first cb to sign as free agent in the ENTIRE MARKET. but never even tried to sign lewis. and gay has probably been their best db this year but again he’s in his 8th year. u build winners by signing as many good guys going into their second contracts that u can afford. now we need a cb as well as all the other positions we need instead of having that tied down for a couple of years..

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  • malsor

    lewis led the league in pass defense and yes he’s just like taylor in that he wasnt great at intercepting which is the reason we could afford such a great corner like ike all these years. they have absolutely no pass rush and still preformed as the best secondary last year in terms of coverage. lewis could have taken over the number one corner as taylor is clearly not anymore. u stockpile as many good young players as possible. we had one guy that fit that criteria and was affordable. instead we brought in so many retreads we could have afforded lewis 3 times over.

  • Steeler Wheeler

    The guy stated a fact (released white players starting elsewhere), adding an opinion (other players at those spots not performing well) and proposed a hypothesis. Just because it’s a sensitive area we shouldn’t call him names and shut him down. Refute the opinions, add some facts and discuss, agree/disagree, whatever…when a person of unknown race opines that Mike Tomlin may have a slight racial prejudice I would hope we could discuss it like adults. I might offer that those folks that jump out of their chairs to shut it down may have some unresolved racial issues of their own (not saying they are racists…maybe they were victims of racism, maybe they are just too freakin sensitive).

  • cencalsteeler

    True. But, at this stage of the season, released players are at a disadvantage. Teams are pretty much set for the year. The only shuffling that goes on for the most part, are due to injuries.

  • His cap charge this year $3.5 million

    We began the season with 1.7 million in cap room and there fore would have had to create an additional 1.8 million to be able to sign him to the same contract. Plus what does his contract due to future years ala 2014?

    Therefore they could not afford him. And they needed a capable backup QB whether he played or not. Whimper has been exactly what they payed for spot starter.

  • If they cut Ike this year 2.54 million dead money charged would have put them over by about 1.46 million. Obviously not three times over. point defeated thanks for playing

  • Chad H

    I defend your right to freedom of speech. I disagree with your statement but I agree that Tomlin can’t evaluate talent. Too many head scratchers.
    What I believe is MT is a defensive 4-3 Tampa defense guy. I believe some of his poor evaluation is to remove Dick and bring in his defense. Yes I believe it has been done intentional. As far offense evaluation he just has no clue.

  • Alan Felicia

    I think Colbert got too cozy after winning 2nd SB in 08 and getting to big game for a 3rd time in 2010.

  • Virdin Barzey

    I think he got greedy. He was playing poker. We were winning and then he decided to go all in.

    We never go all in but he did it anyways and we loss the Superbowl to Greenbay. Folks need to start putting the bulk of the blame where it rightfully belong….Kevin we’re looking at you.

  • Alan Felicia

    Totally agree. Case in point, right after the Super Bowl win in Feb 2009. During the April 2009 draft, Steelers picking 32. The front seven was starting to get long in the tooth with Farrior at 33, Harrison 30, Smith 32, Hampton 31. Their were 2 LBs available (Matthews, Laurenitis). They decide to stand pat and draft an unknown (Hood) over 2 highly touted college players. Colbert could’ve traded up for Matthews since he did trade his 2nd rd pick the same draft.
    I know I’m talking after the fact, but, I’m a frustrated fan! Absolutely sick to my stomach that this defense have been less than avg in sacks the past 3 season and near the bottom in Turnovers as well!

  • WTH was that?

    So I guess the Antonio Brown plays somewhere else

  • Not even close the Jaguars did that to themselves by constant change, three head coaches with three different systems in five years?

  • Neither did Cowher rule with an iron fist lol

  • Virdin Barzey

    Yup. I really don’t know how most people can’t see that even though Colbert has done well over the years, he really struck out the past several years on picks as well.

    I agree that we could have gotten better players and yes 20/20 hindsight as well. Nevertheless, I just can’t believe the number of duds we have acquired in the last couple of years.

    That tells me that the scouting must have been horrible as well. Even worse is we have nothing to show for guys like Wallace and soon to be Sanders. At some point you have got to figure out that this guy is worth keeping or trading before he gets to the door.

  • You don’t go there ever period. It was a stupid way to make a point.

  • HA If you think you can do better apply for his job.

  • So the other team had nothing to do with winning right. Gotcha

  • 3rd round comp for Wallace and a 3rd round comp for Sanders 2015

  • Where is Baxter right now? Down at Walmart bagging grocerries

  • Don’t the Rams play a 4-3?

  • Alan Felicia

    I wish, but, since I’m not a Rooney (Dan Rooney is the Player Personnel Coordinator) I’ve got a better shot of winning Mega Millions. You either gotta be family or have a close relationship with Colbert. Their College Scouting Coordinator is Ron Hughes who used to be the Director of Scouting with Detroit from 1982-2001 and the person who hired Colbert as a pro scout in 1990.

  • Alan Felicia

    Yes, but, what’s that got to do with Laurenitis? He’s a middle LB and the Steelers had an aging Farrior at the time. Four years later, they’re still having a hard time to find a young successor to play along side Timmons.

  • Completely different responsibility in a 3-4 only LB in the NFL to me that can play in any defense is Pat Willis. Did they make a mistake there in hindsight yes. But at the time Aaron Smith could not stay healthy.

  • Smith at the time could not stay healthy and was breaking down. So the probable thought process was draft his understudy and he can learn until taking over. And make it through one more season with potsy.

  • second rounders are an issue.

  • Virdin Barzey

    second rounders or not we sure seem to be lacking talent at some crucial spots

  • Virdin Barzey

    Did anybody said the other team had nothing to do with it?

    Gotcha you just missed it.

  • Alan Felicia

    Well, Timmons was a OLB at Florida State yet LeBeau and Tomlin converted him into a MLB. You think a highly touted, All American player like Larinaitis would’ve failed under LeBeau?

  • Alan Felicia

    Yet, here they are with Hood a bust and they’re still looking for someone to play along side Timmons. Defend Colbert all you want cause he failed to replenish aging veterans.

  • Chad H

    Uh yeah and AB plays defense? Intentionally done in the fact he looks at players that would fit his Tampa defense not Dicks who will be gone after this season.

  • CrazyTerry

    I highly doubt Sanders will get a big free agency contract.

  • CrazyTerry

    If Tomlin wanted to sabotage LeBeau, that would be the dumbest way to go about it because he will be more likely to be fired before lebeau. it was Tomlin who made them practice converting INTs into pick 6s before SB 43 and it paid off with the blocking on Harrison’s return. It was Tomlin who made the D practice for stopping the kind of Rodgers pass that eluded Ike on the crucial 3rd down on their final drive in SB 45, but alas, Rodgers threw the PERFECT pass in that situation.
    Tomlin had made mistakes and I don’t care at this point if he stays or if he is fired because there is a case for both sides. But let’s not inject race stupidly here. Let’s be honest. I find it curious how race keeps being brought when talking about Tomlin. It’s almost as stupid as Bettis writing in his book that Cowher gave Kordell a raw deal.

  • CrazyTerry

    He overreached by saying not one. But the way they mismanaged the LT position was comical, You had a fracnhise LT in Starks somehow by pure luck keep coming bakc to the Steelers despite Tomlin, so called genius Arians and now Haley jettisoning or demoting him every single year. He has been twice as good as any other LT they tried out in that spot. Yet, they just get rid of him this year just because they thought he wouldnt adjust to the zone blocking scheme which they havent even triedf more than a few times. It’s a different matter that Starks has shown up out of shape and played horrible for other teams. But one thing he has always done was somehow get the job done for us. THey should have given him the starting job with the condition he spent the offseason at the same trainin facility he used after he gained a lot of weight at Ben’s wedding.

  • Chad H

    Where in what I wrote was racist. You liberal pot smoking douche. Wake the fu@$ up.

  • malsor

    no but he has the same sacks as jjones. what about JH getting cut 3 times. do u think he had to bad some groceries. real comedian

  • malsor

    and the same amount of impact as cris carter, kion wilson, sylvester and gervin on the lb position. yeah god forbid one of those guys gets let go. we know their ceiling and its in the basement so why not try something different during a 2 win season to see if u do have somebody that can make a difference or has a foundation (the ability to russ the passer) to coach him up..

  • malsor

    lewis cap charge this year is 2.7 million. i wasnt saying to release taylor. that equals william gay (1.16), speath (how many tes do u need that have about the same talent–1 mill) and whimper or ok say u want whimper how about bruce gradkowski to a 3 year deal (batch would have been fine one more year and they drafted a qb in the 4th round, larry foote to a 3 year deal, how about a 36 year old burress? how about LSH?, how about dj johsnon any one of those combined with gay and speath gives us enough room. next year his number goes up to 4.7 how many expiring contracts do we have? the best way to build a roster is to stockpile as many good young players in their second contracts as long as they are affordable. i believe that between all the underwhelming guys that they signed that they should have signed lewis instead. i dont even see how that “talent” that i listed should make too much more than the vet, minimum and maybe include incentives (i.e. burress gets 100k for being on the roster)