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Red Zone Abilities Of FSU WR Kelvin Benjamin Can’t Be Ignored By Steelers


Florida State wide receiver Kelvin Benjamin is too slow. He’s too old. He drops too many passes. He’s not a great route runner. He’s overweight. Did I miss anything? Now that I have acknowledged all of his warts, it’s only fair to also talk about his positives.

Kelvin Benjamin makes plays and he makes plays inside the red zone.

During his recent Pro Day, the Pittsburgh Steelers seemed to be very interested in Benjamin as not only were they spotted talking to him throughout the day, they also had dinner with him Tuesday night.

Many feel that drafting Benjamin with the 15th overall selection is a reach and those same people also believe there is no way he last until the second round. In other words, the Steelers will need to move down in round one or possibly up in round two to draft him.

We’ll see how it plays out, but for several weeks now we’ve been hearing how the Steelers “intend” on drafting quarterback Ben Roethlisberger a “tall” wide receiver. Benjamin is “tall” and he uses that to his advantage. He’s a mismatch inside the red zone.

Last season, Roethlisberger had 18 red zone touchdown passes and 8 of those went to veteran wide receiver Jerricho Cotchery, who was one of the tallest wide receivers on the roster last season outside of Derek Moye, who also caught one of those 18.

Five of the remaining nine red zone touchdown catches from last year went to Emmanuel Sanders and he’s now a member of the Denver Broncos.

Antonio Brown caught 110 passes for a franchise record 1,499 yards last season. He also had eight touchdown receptions of which only one came inside the red zone.

Last year, Benjamin was thrown to 12 times inside the red zone and of the seven balls that he caught, all seven were touchdowns. Unless you think that Cotchery, who currently remains unsigned, can duplicate his output from last season, the Steelers are going to have to draft a player that can score inside the red zone. Benjamin might very well end up being that player.

Below are animated gifs of all of Benjamin’s touchdown catches from last season to spice up the conversation.

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  • http://thereactionblog.com Michael Stickings

    Um… wow. I’d seen a couple of clips, but this is pretty awesome. I agree he’d be a reach at 1-15, but it’s been a long time since we had a guy who could go up and do that (that second one reminds me of Torrey Smith). Imagine how good he’d look on the receiving of some red zone tosses from Ben, and how just his presence on the field would free up Le’Veon and Miller. And with Brown so good as to demand double-teams, perhaps his limitations wouldn’t be as easily exploited by defences.

  • RW

    Like him. Would like him best if he could be had in the second round, and a top flight corner could be had in the first, but that’s a pipe dream.

  • steeltown

    He is fun to watch, to say the least

  • Kenneth Wilt

    If we come out of this draft with 2 CBs and a WR in the first 4 rounds I would be happy. Benjamin is slightly overdrafted at 15, but I do think he may still have more untapped potential. Benjamin, Purifoy, and Desir I think would be a good draft…and we would still have 5 other picks.

  • dkoy85

    I’d be happy if they drafted him at 1.15- Even if one of the top CB’s are on the board. That tells me they are trying to have a top offense for next year and will build the D thru 2015- You only have so many Benjamins enter the draft every decade, I’m not sure they’ll choose him over Gilbert or Dennard but you never know.

    With his good pro day showing that Mayock talked highly about I would’t be surprised if he’s off the board in the teens. Outside of Watkins and Evans the next 3 or 4 WR’s are in the same class, but nobody has the size and potential Benjamin does. Teams covet that. I think they’ll have to grab him at 1.15 or they won’t get him.

  • http://www.nyob.com/ Dr. Doom

    No to Robinson from PSU? I think if a potential shutdown corner is sitting there, they should send that intern running to the podium. But and its possible if a QB falls, take the trade and drop back and get him later, Cardinals & Browns may both want to trade up and they could get that 3rd round pick back.

  • harding36

    I’ve been on the Benjamin bandwagon for a while now, but there’s no way you can justify taking him at 1.15, especially with the receivers that will be available in the second. I think we should take Dennard in the first and Donte Moncrief or Jordan Mathews in the second.

  • srdan

    At first I was strongly opposed to him due to his age. But I am warming up to the idea. I think he could add 6 TDs to the offense this year. We need a boost in the Green Zone in the worst way.

    AB would benefit from having him.

    Who would see the top corner if this guy is on the field. Most top corners have size, but AB’s change of direction makes them look silly due to their size. AB is also very hard to jam.

  • dkoy85

    Agreed. Picture this- AB taking top CB, Benjamin opposite him, Wheaton and Cotchery, Miller, and Bell. That is one hell of a passing threat if you ask me. Offensive weapons masters in their own way.

    It would be very hard for any defense to defend- and guess what… we have a mobile QB who sheds tackles like an elephant running from hyenas- He would match up much better to Seattle’s D than ol’ bones Manning.

  • Biggie

    You don’t take a WR in the 1st round because he is a redzone threat alone. If Evans is there then yes though highly unlikely but he is a complete package. This draft is to deep at WR and a number of big redzone threat types to go with Benjamin in Rd 1. He will not be BPA at 15. If he somehow falls into 2nd rd, then fine I could see it. There are two top cbs, one of which should be there, prefer GIlbert but ok with Dennard. Can go Rd 2 at WR, then back to defense in Rd 3.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    Great article Dave,

    It seems like every time someone brings up the name Kelvin Benjamin all you hear is how bad he sucks and how there’s no way he’s worth the 1.15 pick. I disagree. Just hear me out…

    What if you knew Benjamin would score 20 TDs his first season in the NFL? Would you draft him at 1.15 then? Would the points he produces outweigh the weaknesses? Would it matter to you how many routes he could run? Or that his drop rate was double the normal?

    Take baseball. What if the Pirates drafted a 1st baseman at #1 overall who hit 50 HRs his first season? Would you care that he only hit .270 and couldn’t run?

    Kelvin Benjamin has the ability to the most important thing in all of football. Win the game. Go up and get the ball, in traffic, with the game on the line. What is that worth? We’ll find out what the Steelers brass/coaches think very shortly…

  • Andrew Alberico

    Old? He was 23 in February. What is the difference between a 23-year-old starting his first season, and a player a year or two younger sitting (you know, the “Steeler” way!) for two seasons? And what the hell is the difference if he is picked 15th or 20th or whatever in the first round, or somewhere in the second round, if he plays well for 6, 7, 8 years? Where does it matter where he is picked? Where was Tom Brady drafted? What round was Richard Sherman picked? Wasn’t Ben down in the teens somewhere? John Stallworth was a 4th round draft pick. Stop the nitpicking over #15 or #19 or whatever.

  • SFIC

    This is the deepest WR class in many years. Unless Watkins falls (which he won’t) the Steelers should wait until later…rd 2 to 4 will still produce solids picks. IMO Evans & Benjamin both have concerns that do not warrant a #15 overall pick. It sounds like Gilbert or Dennard appear to be the pick of choice. I’m still on the TE bandwagon …Amaro and Ebron are two TE’s who are receiving weapons that rarely come along. To me either is still my preference. The rest of the TE’s in this draft are more of the prototypical TE which are a dime a dozen. I want to give Ben a weapon that teams like the Saints and Patriots wreaked havoc with…jmo.

  • SFIC

    Then I guess by your theory, if you saw these 2013 stats by a receiver:
    106 rec – 1352 yds – 7 TD’s
    That would warrant a #15 pick because they are superior to Benjamin.
    Except these are the 2013 stats of TESlot Rec Jace Amaro.

  • StrengthOfVictory

    Robinson’s abundant body catching bothers me more than a little.

  • RMSteeler

    I agree. Take the TE designation off Ebron and list him as a WR. Faster and better hands than Benjamin. Just as good or better RZ threat as Benjamin. Then if Heath gets hurt or can’t get open anymore, switch him back to TE. Position flexability just as important as the OL and DL, IMO. If Ebron and Benjamin are there at 15 and no better DEF option there and no trade back option, I’d take Ebron in a heartbeat.

  • Paddy

    Well Ben1 would love it, he had to find Cotchery this season because Heath was mending his knee. Ben2 and Heath in the end zone would be sensational.

  • SFIC

    The Steelers like many teams have been more inclined to drafting younger, underclassmen like Timmons because it gives them more time to develop them before showing their age.

  • SFIC

    I would rarely play Ebron or Amaro inline. If Heath gets injured I would use another TE to fill in for him. LB’s and SS’s are used to covering TE’s inline, not too many are comfortable covering TE’s in the slot.

  • Alexander Sebastian Heath

    If we are talking about taking a project at our 1.15 pick- might as well draft AaronDnald.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    You make some good points. But consider this. Every year we make a big board saying who is “worth” the 1.15 pick, etc. Then three years later we go back and re-grade the draft and say (this guy) should’ve been graded higher. If we could go back we should’ve drafted (this guy) instead.

    In other words, somebody’s scouting was off. Somebody’s assessment of whether or not a guy was “worth” the 1.15 pick was off. Usually because the scout looked at the guy’s physical traits instead of his production.

    I’m not guaranteeing Benjamin’s production. I’m just saying if he makes plays on the field, I don’t care how much of a complete package his skill set is. And I think he can make plays that no other receiver (except Mike Evans) can make.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    If Jace had 15 TD’s then absolutely yes.

  • Alexander Sebastian Heath

    He’s a Tyler Hansbrough, no thanks.

  • Derick L Young

    I’ve liked him from day 1. He tweeted a pic of him wearing a Carolina Panthers skull cap. weird.

  • Jason White

    Great comment. I have made the same argument about Eric Ebron because people said he shouldn’t be considerd at 15. I say look at Vernon Davis, Jimmy Graham or a healthy Rob Gronkowski. The production and matchup nightmares they produce warrant such a high pick. If they were redrafted today teams would be tripping over themselves to call to make a trade up to get them. If you believe a certain guy is “that guy” then he is worth it. Benjamin has one thing those 6ft guys don’t have and can’t be taught. Superior size and physical dominance. Benjamin as proven despite his downsides that he can make some crazy catches and with coaching and a certain guy named Ben Roethlisberger throwing him the ball his full potential can be unleashed.

  • SFIC

    If we played a 43 front and either Donald or Jernigan were on the board at 15, I’d be running to the draft table with my pick.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    Thank you. I agree 100% with this statement. And I would have Ebron drop down to 240 pounds to be even faster.

  • StrengthOfVictory

    His advantages cannot be denied. He isn’t just tall, he’s big and physical. I feel almost bad for the corners covering him, because there is NOTHING they can do to stop him. He jumps, high-points the ball, and catches with his HANDS. What can a smaller defender do?

    Also, looking at a handful of these clips, you’d think it was Big Ben throwing the ball. Clips #1 (scramble, broken play); 3 (play action bomb); 5, 12, 14 (quick red zone fades); 7 (big throw with pocket collapsing); 8 (play action throw to the middle in the red zone); and 15 (throw while getting hit) all look like vintage Ben plays.

  • James Kling

    I’d rather go Gilbert/Dennard R1, Moncrief R2.

  • StrengthOfVictory

    I’m much higher on Jordan Matthews than Moncrief.

  • blackandgoldBullion

    Absolutely!!!

  • James Kling

    I like Matthews. IMO, Moncrief has more upside.

  • StrengthOfVictory

    Watching this guy (and imagining him wearing black and gold), you can almost hear the sobbing Ravens and Bengals fans as their team loses by a TD. :)

  • Virdin Barzey

    These guys are real tricky. This is like a young Plaxico situation for us. We take him high in the draft and he does well after his rookie contract he will be demanding big bucks. Out the door he goes.

    I like the kid despite the drops. He’s a baller and with the right coach, he could end up being really really good as long as we can live with a three year rental that requires some work.

    Nope, CB is the way to go for us. We’ve done well at picking WRs late. This kid would be around for too long in the draft.

  • Steeler North

    Most mocks that I have seen have Mathews going way before our round 2 pick. But I would love him in the second.

  • shawn

    I like him warts and all … let me ask u, would u be happy at 1.15 or only want him if we traded back … I could live with the pic kay 15, but wouldnt be thrilled … would be really nice if we can trade back and still get him … cuz its like getting 2 quality players for the price of 1 … who wouldnt want that … especially in our situation !

  • SFIC

    Jace has almost twice as many rec’s than Benjamin.
    Also, most of Benjamin’s TD’s were against very weak competition.

  • shawn

    and his lack of separation !!

  • steeltown

    Trade back

  • dkoy85

    Moncreif is a slower version of Wallace IMO, albeit taller but I don’t see a lot of upside in him. He’s one of the “top” WR’s I’d be disappointed taking.

  • shawn

    would love Matthews in the second … not sure he lasts that long !

  • shawn

    agreed !

  • shawn

    he’s hardly a complete package … but he’s well worth it … and would provide about 10 tds and 800-900 yds … good enough for me !

  • SFIC

    If you listen closer you might also hear the Doah’s! from the Steeler’s fans after the Benjamin dropped passes and his inability to get open….just saying, these TD clips are nice, but watch the rest his game tape and you’ll see why a #15 spot is not warranted here.

  • steeltown

    Not arguing an eye toward CB in the 1st, I don’t believe Benjamin is worth the 15th overall pick regardless, I don’t care about the notion of losing him in 4yrs, ANY WR drafted that is successful will want BIG money when the time comes for the 2nd contract. Ben only has 3, 4 maybe 5yrs left anyway so that doesn’t bother me, we need the production now

  • srdan

    I disagree w the first sentence. This is what teh NFL has become. The offenses are based on having mismatches and isolating those players. A redzone mismatch is a huge advantage. If your argument is that he should be a redzone player, and a complete player, ok, but don’t discount players that are mismatches. To get a player that is a redzone threat and a complete player, you are looking at a top 7 pick (calvin, AJ, Julio…). There are others on their level, but there are plenty that fizzled as well.

    I will even say that teh “complete player” has given way to the mismatch guys. For example Heath wouldn’t be thourght of as a first round pick anymore, where the guys that are athletes (mismatches) are being looked at in the first roudn as TEs. Amaro and Ebron.

    This is mostly true to the offense, but it’s starting to show up on defense as well with Seattle taking people like the kid from WVU a couple years ago that was a mamoth DE that ran like a receiver…his name is slipping me.

  • Rob

    With cotchery gone we are probably going to be drafting 2 WR. Thankfully neither of them will be named kelvin Benjamin. What good is a red zone threat who can’t catch? I’d rather cooks or lee

  • SFIC

    Me too

  • Rob

    Pass completely. He’s very similar to mike Williams coming out of usc

  • Rob

    Thank you. Someone is FINALLY making sense on this post. It’s the equivalent of drafting nix in the first. He’s a good nose, but we aren’t in base enough to justify it with so many other needs. And also, the thing about a red zone threat is we actually have to get to the red zone to use him. We need a complete wr, not a novelty act

  • moderatelysane

    Yes, he’s an impressive kid in some ways. BUT… We have AB. We have Wheaton, who was drafted in the 3rd and expected to go higher. This would complete a very significant investment in a 2nd/3rd string WR at the expense of another position getting the first round love. Possibly at the expense of a top CB. We don’t have much at CB right now. Cortez Allen has not shown that he’s still on the upswing, so by comparison AB>>Cortez. 2nd string: Wheaton > Ike (I think CB is deep, but there’s definitely a tier 1 and tier not-1. I’d take either of the top CB 10 out of 10 times over Benjamin.

  • Rob

    I agree. If they are determined to draft a big reciever at 15, then draft one who is actually good

  • shawn

    Couldn’t agree with you more … like the perspective of looking back .. a lot of people always say that guy is reach or he’s not worth a 2nd or 3rd round pick (including me) but then going back a few years later we see the evaluation and scouting were off.

    i completely agree about Benjamin’s production and if he makes plays on the field i couldn’t care less if he is the complete package … EXCELLENT points … if we want complete package i would go with Matthews or Adams over him … but i think what we are both looking at is the value he presents with his Mismatches especially in the RZ

    Some people only look at stats which are fine, but what i REALLY want is the chess piece available that can make the play when the game is on the line against a top team … even if it is just a 10 yd TD … those are the things that makes teams Winners !

  • shawn

    I think you have the RIGHT mindset about him !

  • shawn

    You completely MISSED his point … he’s not talking about receptions or ydg … thats not what Benj is about … he’s about TDs and being able to score & WIN the game when it counts !

    But i do like Amaro … would be a good pick if we traded down or if he lasted to the 2nd

  • shawn

    I think most people agree that Ebron is well worth a pick at 15 !

  • shawn

    Great Points … i think the same way … only thing is if we were pretty sure we could get him with a trade down or someone else we were really high on … i think its worth it to trade down because you get 2 quality players for the price of one … and that is something we could really use !

  • shawn

    That is my preference to a TE Ebron at 15 or a trade down and get Amaro … would u take Amaro if they didnt trade down ?

  • shawn

    no problem with that .. nice !

  • Jeff Anoble

    NFL network Path to the Draft show had a interesting stat about 240lb + receivers. There has been 2 in the history of the league and both are guys I never heard of. So Benjamin would be the only 240lb + receiver in league history to be successful. If he were to be successful.

    That scares me off.

  • shawn

    Way Higher on Matthews .. not high on Moncrief at all

  • 1stepforward

    This would be a nightmare scenario. A first rounder for a receiver that has questions about his hands. With all of the other needs on the roster, it’s time to fall out of love.

  • SFIC

    Yes, I would take Amaro at 15, for the same reason we took Bell in the 2nd rd last year. Last year I had us taking Wheaton in 2 and Bell in 3. I had a tough time defending the Bell pick at 2. Many said we could have waited until 3 or traded down. But if a team is really high on a player you should never take a chance that another team might snag him. For me it’s the same with Amaro. If the Steelers really like him, like I do, you don’t take a chance. There are a few teams at the bottom of the board that probably wouldn’t hestitate to move up a few spots to take him.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    There are TONS of guys who can give you receptions. If you want just receptions or yards just draft a 3rd rounder like we’ve been doing for the last few years.

    Wallace, Brown, Sanders, Wheaton, will all give you receptions. But the reason we lose games is because we don’t score enough points. touchdowns, my friend. Benjamin scores touchdowns even when he’s perfectly covered.

    I’ll try to dig up the Steelers red zone stats (over the last few years). You’ll see that we’re horrible.

  • SFIC

    Good point. A week or so ago the network also posted the 10 fasted (combine 40) WR’s over the past few years. The only one who has been productive is Wallace…pretty sad, huh?
    That’s why most insiders state, the most important info on a player comes from watching game film. Then to a far lesser extent, the interview and physical. Further down the list is the Combine measureables. Then lastly, Pro Days, because they are completely scripted.

  • RMSteeler

    Benjamin looks and moves like a TE on tape. If you want someone tall AND big, take Ebron over Benjamin and split Ebron out.

  • SFIC

    You find me a WR or TE who can produce 106 rec’s in only 13 games. 7 TD’s in that period is still good and like I said, some of Benjamin’s TD’s were against Idaho, Bethune Wake Forest, etc….

  • SFIC

    I still feel that the big WR will have a tough time in the NFL with the popularity now of the big CB. Case in point, look how well Denver’s big receivers D.Thomas, J.Thomas and Decker did against Seattle’s big secondary….maybe the WR trend of the future will be the small, quick WR like Antonio Brown….that’s why I like Lee and Cooks over Evans and Benjamin.

  • steelster

    Thank you Rob. Did you know that 5 of the 10 teams to finish in the top 10 in red zone td’s in 2013 didn’t make the playoffs. The raiders finished 6th. The seahawks finished 14th and the steelers 16th.

  • shawn

    not even close …

  • Rob

    Just out of curiosity, what do you think the difference is?

  • Shannon Stephenson

    Half of his TD’s he was wide open but i will admit he had a few that his size was a huge factor in.

  • Shannon Stephenson

    I really think he may go earlier because of what the combine had shown us. I do not believe he is worthy of that but we shall see.

  • shawn

    Dave pointed out exactly what he is … and regardless if he becomes a great or even very good WR in the NFL he does well at what we need … RZ and Mismatches … Mike Williams was a higher draft pick with much more expectations as he was a more complete big WR that just so happened to be a BUST !

  • shawn

    he didnt exactly have a great combine ?? u mean pro day ?

  • Rob

    They are both slow, lumbering, and plodding… For the sake of argument, let’s say that he will be a good red zone threat. wouldn’t you rather take a complete player who is a defender, or even a more complete receiver? We need a lot of help. We can’t be wasting picks on specialty players… As for Dave on Benjamin, he’s confused. He says watch the tape, I did… It leaves a lot to be desired. Ebron is the same height, faster, and can actually catch the ball.

  • shawn

    I guess i see what Dave sees in the tape … he is a play maker and a lot more explosive than u are giving him credit for …

    As for the all around WR .. answer is NO .. with our current makeup of talent i would rather have his Specialty and give up the other attributes …

    think of it this way … do u really want 3 all around WRs … with the same exact attributes .. prob not ( of course if they were all josh Gordon or Calvin johnson another story)… I would rather have a great all around WR, a speedster … a clutch possession WR and a big Target to create mismatches … now if we were starting from scratch i would agree with u … but yes i would rather have Ebron … he provides much of the same benefit while being a much better overall player … so can’t argue that …

    as far as the defensive side … i could go either way and agree … i would like an all around package at CB .. but dont see one this year .. Gilbert is a fine playmaker but doesnt have an all around game … but YES i would be fine with that pick … about the only DB in the first i would be happy with … Dennard lacks playmaking ability and still isn’t a top tier solid all around CB …. decent yes but not at 15 !

  • Rob

    Alright, you have a good point with variety in the receiving corp. We do need height and sped to complement Antonio brown. I’m just saying all things being equal, I prefer cook’s speed or Marques Lee’s smoothness and hands to Benjamin’s height. Ask yourself this: if Benjamin wasn’t 6’5″, would you even
    Be interested in him? There are other better tall receivers out there to get. He’s not worth a first. I personally like Bryant from Clemson.

    I like Dennard, but I have to admit that I have some questions about him too. Still, Colbert has a pretty good track record in the first round. If the do take him at 15 I’ve got to believe he’s something special.

  • Reg Sayhitodabadguy Hunt

    Same can be said about a good cb like gilbert/dennard with the game on the line can they stop the offense from scoring or better yet make that forced fumble or pick six to win the game against the mannings/bradys/flaccos/breezes and wilsons in the nfl I feel like our offense was good enough to keep up with these guys in a scoring battle but our defense fail us time after time think about this our offense is better than seattles (SB champs) but their def is waaaayyyy better than ours which is why defenses win championships offense just sells tickets ask peyton

  • Shannon Stephenson

    something like that. :)

  • Lewis

    Doesn’t that go both ways though? How many players do we go back and say, man that 15th pick was a waste! Roy Williams, Mike Williams, even the Steelers’ Limas Sweed were all regrettable picks.

  • Iron Cadet

    The pipe dream and crazy scenario is trading back and picking up an extra 3rd and selecting Benjamin. and then packaging our 2nd and newly aquired 3rd to move back up into the first round and get Kyle fuller. and then we still have our comp pick in round 3. I know the trade value doesn’t match up and it’d be hard to find trade partners. But I can’t think of a better scenario

  • RW

    Would be a really amazing draft with those two picks, regardless of who’s chosen in the later rounds. Don’t know how much of a reality it is, but one can dream :)

  • shawn

    Benjamin is easily the best Big WR on the board .. nobody is even close to the impact he can make … sorry and Evans isn’t in his league as well … Matthews is a much better WR but wouldnt help in the RZ nearly as much … better overall production YES … but i guess its what u are looking for … i want a chess mismatch every time ! Sorry but Bryant is not even worth mentioning !

  • Rob

    What’s with this renewed vigor for Benjamin? He’s not even worth discussing anymore. He looks to be falling to the second round

  • shawn

    very doubtful he would fall to US in the 2nd … he is worth discussing as he would be a great pick if we traded back … but as it is now prob wouldnt pick him at 15 though …

    Renewed vigor ??? dont think u have been paying attention quite as much … steelers, fans and talking heads have not lessened their interest in him one bit over the last several weeks … did u not here the good reviews from Ike, the photo of the dinner and his workout at the pro day .. not sure where ur thoughts are coming from !

  • Wil Masisak

    Sorry, this comment is in utter disregard of what’s right in front of you. Dave has done a nice job of putting all those GIFs together… but you don’t seem to be seeing what they show. Not only are there some nice catches there… look at the routes! Stutterstep stop and go, Post/dig, out and up, out and slant, crossing routes, back shoulder fade. Extreme wins at the catch point, including in the biggest moment of the college season and the young man’s career. If that isn’t demonstration of elite WR ability for a college player, I don’t know what is. Slow and lumbering is absurd, sorry… he runs away from several guys who will be NFL players, especially those cats from Florida. Choose to ignore the tape at your own peril. He’ll go before 1.18, so how is 1.15 too soon?

  • Rob

    Sigh… Benjamin is going late 1/early 2nd because he isn’t a complete receiver. Watch his games, not ehat Dave has posted on the site. He’s a little Too Benjamin-happy for my liking. The lumbering comment was made in reference to his combine workout. He was uncoordinated and slow compared to Evans. My point is ask yourself if you’d want him if he wasn’t 6’5″. I certainly wouldn’t, but I don’t want him now.., Eric Ebron provides much more and is actually worth 1.15

  • Wil Masisak

    If Benjamin were perfect, he’d be a top 10 pick.

  • shawn

    agreed … I would be happy with the pick … but much more if they traded back and grabbed him !

  • Wil Masisak

    I think there’s a big gap from Evans/Benjamin big WRs down to the later big WRs. And, I could make the exact argument you’re using vis a vis CBs. Can’t justify taking a CB at 1.15 when the abundance of excellent CBs extends all the way through round 7. There are probably 30 in this draft who aren’t much of a drop off from Gilbert/Dennard, and some of them are better fits or have more upside. Also, I can totally justify taking Benjamin at 15, knowing that Baltimore would take him at 1.17 if I don’t.

  • Wil Masisak

    He had his biggest two games, one in terms of yards/TDs and the other in terms of catching the championship… both against SEC teams and both vs future NFL CBs. His next best game probably vs Duke, the second best team in the ACC, vs yet another future NFL CB. So much mythology about these players. Let us watch the tape.

  • Wil Masisak

    annnd which of Seatlle’s CBs were drafted in the 1st? They won the Super Bowl last year with a 4th rounder, two 5ths, a 6th, and a UDFA. This draft crazy deep in CBs, Steelers haven’t drafted one in 1st since 1997.

  • Wil Masisak

    Want to provide some examples of Benjamin not being able to get open? Or, would you rather show Ebron’s route running– maybe Evans’ last couple of college games? Maybe you’d like to show all the tackles and hits Gilbert made? Nobody is without flaws but let’s not invent criticisms because we don’t like the player, me included.

  • Wil Masisak

    It’s funny you guys are on Lee, who demonstrated worse hands in 2013 than Benjamin… and you can say with a straight face that KB can’t catch after watching the display of GIFs above. Cooks or ODB or Herron would be fabulous receivers but don’t add as much to this offense as a whole.

  • Wil Masisak

    There’s absolutely no comparison on tape between Ebron and Benjamin. Ebron is lumbering and body position vs LBs/S, Benjamin is running with/by CBs… I could care less about combine… look at the clips above. KB gets downfield swiftly and cuts without slowing. On tape, Ebron is much slower player than KB or Evans.

  • Wil Masisak

    It’s a fair point. Lee is DND to me (hands, routes, health) but I would rather have Cooks/ODB/Herron than Robinson/Matthews/Moncrief.

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