Schefter: Steelers And Brown Reach Long-Term Deal

Big but not surprising news out of Pittsburgh. The Pittsburgh Steelers and Antonio Brown have reportedly reached a long-term agreement, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter.

As Schefter writes, the deal makes him the highest paid receiver in the league, surpassing A.J. Green, which has been expected all along.

Details have not been announced but should trickle out in the very near future. The deal is expected to average about $15 million per year.

We’ll update this post as any details come in.

Ian Rapoport confirms the deal surpasses $15 million per season.

Antonio Brown announces the deal on Twitter.

Steelers’ local media is reporting it as a five year contract.

Numbers on AB’s contract are in, per Schefter. He’ll make an average of $17 million on the new deal, announced as a four year extension.

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  • BOOOOMIN

  • Jon Crissinger

    Yessssssssss

  • Jeff McNeill

    Well deserved!

  • Nick Sabatella

    First off, glad we have AB.

    But damn…. that’s a lot of money. Without someone as good as Big Ben at QB, that money is going to be wayyyy to high. Hope the salary cap continues to rise significantly.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Congrats AB! That smile don’t change!

  • PaeperCup

    Busy day. As they say, Business is Boomin!

  • Guest12

    Not a bad deal really. This should shave a couple mil off his cap hit for the coming season which means it should actually help us in terms of money this offseason for other needs. Drew is the man when it comes to contracts.

  • Guest12

    Cap is now reported to be a little higher than expected, this signing also should be shaving off a couple mil from his 2017 cap hit, won’t be a drastic difference, but any difference helps with all the holes we need to fill this offseason

  • PaeperCup

    I like that the comment “Steelers for life #Boomin” accompanies that smile.

  • Cols714

    Great news!

  • Cols714

    What? Would you rather a receiver who wasn’t good enough to be the best in the NFL?

  • Sam Clonch

    I’ve seen mock contracts that raise his cap hit for ’17, but only a few million. I don’t think this contract will prevent us from addressing Bell and hopefully Tuitt.

  • T3xassteelers

    Today gets better and this week has been AMAZING with the comp pick news!!

  • Jeff Papiernik

    Yikes, 18.5 average cap hit for the first 3 years…..I’d say Steelers got taken to the cleaners on this deal.

  • Sam Clonch

    Probably pushes his cap hit up to around
    $15 mill this season (from $13.5ish). Count $12 mill as it is for
    Bell’s franchise tag. Still leaves about $23 mill in cap space. Hope
    they can work something out for Tuitt and Villanueva this off season too.

    Edit: Maybe higher than $15 mill for this year. Still should be enough to make a few more moves. Love it.

  • steelersfan

    Great day to be a Steelers fan!!!!

  • Chris92021

    Now let’s get Bell’s contract done and Tuitt’s contract done. Oh and take care of Big Al too. He is too good to be brought back on just a 1 year deal. Same goes for Deebo.

  • Mike Johnson

    More locker room videos can’t wait to see them!

  • Jeff Papiernik

    Yeah I hate to say it, but I think they overpaid for him.

  • Gerald Brown

    BOOOOOMIN!!!!! PAID!!!

  • Jeff Papiernik

    Hate to say it, but I think they overpaid for him. That’s just my opinion, I know others will disagree.

  • Jaybird

    Ben better play another three years! The thought of A Landry Jones type throwing to AB at 18 million a year is a little scary.

  • RickM

    It was necessary, but so much for the Steelers not paying big money when a guy hits 31, 32 and 33. To me, he took the team a little to the cleaners. And that does not mean I didn’t want him re-signed. Just seems high for years when a guy is not in his prime. But, he probably could have gotten it on the open market.

  • SouthernSteel

    Highest paid WR.. But how long? One week? Glad the FO knock this contract out quick salaries will only go up..

  • Jeff Papiernik

    That’s my point exactly. With a guy like Jones throwing to him, he wouldn’t be worth that kind of money.

  • Jaybird

    I’m just afraid a few years down the road. God forbid something happens to Ben – I can’t see AB getting the production with another QB to justify that kind of money.
    But screw it we’re in it to win it now! We can worry about that stuff after we win the next two superbowls!

  • NYCSteelCurtain

    They are in win mode. Ben has another 5ish years, 3 good ones left to win it all again.

    You are paying your line, RB, and best WR. Nothing wrong with that.

  • Jaybird

    Highest paid till OBJ gets his new contract

  • Jeff Papiernik

    Prediction: Brown will be a cap casualty in 2021 when Ben is retired and AB is set to count $12.5 mil against the cap and isn’t what he once was.

  • Brendon Glad

    AWESOME!!! LUV YA A.B.!!! Go chase the G.O.A.T.! You can do it!!! And how about a few Lombardis for the Nation while you are at it. 🙂

  • alevin16

    No No No! How can the Steelers do this when Limas Sweed is out there for the taking, damn we will never be able to afford him now ;D

  • RickM

    I think any disagreement is just based on the challenge of keeping all the key guys given the cap. That’s a lot of money for a non-QB.

  • ScullNCrossbones

    Hopefully he ages like Steve Smith (which I think he will) because he’s gonna be getting paid a lot of money for his age 33 season in the final year of this deal

  • RickM

    Didn’t mean to plagiarize your phrase. Didn’t read it until now.

  • Jaybird

    Jeff we gotta see how much is guarenteed . If the first two years are guarenteed then maybe it’s not such scary looking contract. I can’t wait to see the details.

  • Jeff Papiernik

    Good point

  • Brendon Glad

    He’s the most consistent and excellent player on the team. Week in week out. Maybe not the most important…because we’ve seen how he can be minimized with a bad QB. But well worth the money. Figure it out and cut costs on the dudes who are TRULY overpaid. We all know who they are.

  • Jeff Papiernik

    I always thought Limas Sweed sounded like a cartoon villain from the old west who ties a damsel in distress to the railroad tracks.

  • LucasY59

    happened a lot faster than I thought it would, and is a bit more expensive, but I wont complain

  • SteelersDepot

    Pretty standard and expected cash flow. Not sure why people would think other wise. Also that’s not cap hit. that’s average of new money. We won’t know the cap hits until the structure is announced.

  • LucasY59

    I am hoping he has a Jerry Rice like career (not just with production, but longevity) will need a Steve Young type replacement for Ben (Montana) for him to keep putting up big #s through this contract, but if they do find a good QB and AB keeps producing he could get another contract with the Steelers after this one

  • Brendon Glad

    Gotta keep players like him. Even Belichick does that when he knows he has an ethereal talent. Just makes the draft more important. Because there will need to be some guys out on the field starting for the B&G on “bargain deals”. That’s just the math of the Salary-Cap-Game. I like the signing. I love AB. I can count on him week-in-week-out more than any player on the team. And that’s important.

  • PaeperCup

    It’s really expensive, but seems appropriately paid for his contributions. Whether someone feels Steelers should have paid it or not becomes a personal opinion of course and up for debate. I think he’s one of few players in the league worth forking over the cash for.

  • AndyR34

    I think If Ben goes and we have no one to throw to AB, we can just cut him like we have done to other over-priced players.

  • Steve Johnson

    Defense Wins Championships.

  • CP72

    Good point. Got AB on the cheap from the last contract. It’s gonna end up 4 years of outstanding production for middle of the road wide receiver money.

    They’re saying Kenny Stills might get 12 million on the open market….he had 42 catches last year.

  • PaeperCup

    what’s that symbol in your post?

  • Steeler Fanatic

    He has caught more balls in four years than anyone in NFL history. He won the Ravens game and essentially knocked out the Fins in two big plays. One of the hardest workers in football. Julo Jones $14m, Demaryus Thomas $14m… $15m per is about right.

  • LucasY59

    I like a Jerry Rice comparison better, but Old man Smith was still really good when healthy

  • Steeler Fanatic

    That’s why Ben’s replacement will make a rookie salary three years from now.

  • Rotten Sircus

    Well Deserved but how much cap space does that leave us with ? ??

  • Steeler Fanatic

    Ask Alabama that.

  • TsarPepe

    I don’t know why some people always expect the Steelers to get off cheap on new contracts. Sometimes you have to pay people what they’re worth. And Brown is worth it. Let’s not forget also the years when he was laughably underpaid. After that, I think the Steelers can afford to pay market price.

  • TsarPepe

    Did you mean “eternal” talent?

  • Ray

    But but but they are gonna trade AB.

    But but but the Steelers are afraid of his antics

    But but but yet should move on he’s bad in the lockeroom

    All such garbage. Well deserved for one of the hardest working guys in all of sports

  • steelersfan

    Man not a lot of teams in the history of any sport can say they inked the two best players at their respective positions on the same day. Proud of my team!

  • RickM

    Yes, agree. Some will argue he’s necessary to help the inferior QB with as many weapons as possible. But maybe a compromise can be reached.

  • Richard Edlin

    So, it’s actually under at $15m a year deal really? This year was $4.71m salary plus $68 new in the next 4 years, so under $73m over 5 years …

    Dead money from previous roster bonuses is about $9M this year, plus the unknown pro-rated signing bonus and first year salary. Hard to see the total cap hit going down much.

  • Denny

    Interested to see your analysis of this deal. Is it really $68M in new money but spread over 5 years as he was already under contract for just a few $M this year.

  • Jones

    Fair deal all around. Steelers had him cheap when they took a chance on him, now they pay a premium for his proven production. AB’s career compensation will average out to be very team friendly overall, & AB will retire a wealthy man with lots of records held. Like all good business deals, it’s a win win!

  • Darth Blount 47

    I saw on twitter that Ravens fans were talking all kinds of smack. Thinking he wouldn’t be back. It was too expensive. That maybe if he left, they may some day have a shot at him.
    I told them…

    You don’t let talent like that walk out your front door and down the street to Baltimore. He’s top of the charts, he’s first in our hearts.. And he’ll be a Steeler for ever more. EVER MORE!

  • Craig M

    I totally agree about him being underpaid for so long but that was on his agent. IMO

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    I think that is the thing that’s usually forgotten: He is the hardest worker in the biz plus he put up numbers! #Boomin’

  • Bonnie Powell

    Agreed. Coaches say no one works harder at constantly improving than AB. Now lock up Bell and figure out how to beat NE and business will really be BOOMIN!!!

  • Bonnie Powell

    he has been underpaid last 4 years, and to his credit, he never held out and did everything he could to help the team win. Glad they paid him accordingly.

  • NinjaMountie

    A little more than I thought it would be…I think. I tend to think in terms of salary cap. I thought his cap hit would stay about the same this season. I’ll have to see how it shakes out when someone explains it to me, lol.

  • Robert E Lil

    He earned it. He deserves it.
    Just not sure if it was best for the team

  • Craig M

    I don’t understand why the owners/ players assoc. doesn’t set up a pay scale by seniority/ seasonal playing time for each position, w/ a general league wide bonus fund paid for performance at each position- that wouldn’t count against a mandated salary cap (for the sake of team continuity). Then really good players like AB wouldn’t get short changed early on then sign a big contract that’s not guaranteed then get cut/ dropped, for money sake, later on in the contract.

  • WreckIess

    Congrats on the new money AB!! Deserved every cent. No hold outs. No complaints to the media. Played the game and got paid!

  • Craig M

    I think a lot is based on TV projected revenue increases- the NFL doesn’t shop around pricing deals they simply tell anyone concerned how much they will have to pay for viewing rights. And they already know what that increase ceiling will be before the players/ agents.

  • TB

    Agreed, this was too much. We have a narrow window with Big Ben and we need to focus more on CBs that disrupt timing if we want to get back to the Superbowl. I hate to admit it, but the road to the Superbowl goes through the Pats until Brady retires, which doesn’t look like anytime soon. This signing will help us get to the playoffs, but not beat Brady. I’m happy to keep AB, but this precludes any chance of bringing in quality defensive free agents and we don’t have the time to let rookies develop.

  • NinjaMountie

    Yeah, they have it made with tv deals. I was referring to Brown’s cap hit, though. He was scheduled to hit the cap for 13.6mill this year. I’m wondering what the difference it would be. I thought, months ago, that a new deal might lower that cap hit a tad…don’t know now. Need someone to break it down for me.

  • alevin16

    Thanks for that image, now I see him in a large top hat twirling his handlebar mustache

  • SteelersDepot

    the total of the 5 years (2017-2021) is $72.71M. The signing bonus will be spread out over 5 years and I think you’ll see at least one roster bonus in 2018 and maybe another in 2019

  • TroymanianDevil

    Let me start by saying that he deserves every penny and I’m very happy for him..

    But this isn’t the MLB or NBA with no cap and a soft cap respectively. Every dollar matters. They would’ve very likely been able to sign him to a 4yr/60mil extension last year. But they had to keep some “precedence” and wait. They should’ve made an exception last year and done it then. And they gained nothing by waiting. We already knew what kind of player he was, I understand using that logic with Bell, making Bell “prove it”. I think that “precedence” cost the front office about 2mil/yr and 8mil total so I hope its worth it for the front office.

    All that being said, I’m glad this is done and over with. Let’s get Bell locked up too

  • SilverSteel

    Agreed, that is about 3 M/yr more than I thought he would get. I would never have guessed we would invest that much in a WR. I am glad he is still here, but that is a bit much for a 30 year old receiver. Then again, I think Decastro got a big time player friendly deal for a guard, so what do I know? I hope this doesn’t prevent us from signing all of the others we need.

  • SilverSteel

    I don’t disagree in the least. That is too much for one player that is not a QB.

  • SilverSteel

    No way was that “expected” or standard. More like 15 m/yr and even that is a lot for 1 player not a QB. Cmon man…

  • NinjaMountie

    With the cap going up, salaries will follow. If he’s the best WR in the league, as is a reasonable argument, he will set the standard for WR pay scale. I have to agree, I hoped for less, but I’m not surprised at all with what it is.

  • RickM

    The Rice comparison is the best-case scenario for sure, and a good QB of course. We also have to have can other receivers that can take pressure off of him. That’s critical and it could be problematic. No way probably that we can keep Bryant down the road if comes back and plays well the next two years. But we’ll cross that bridge if we come to it. But if Brown is going to pay for his contract in production, we can’t have a repeat of last year. He can be taken out of the game too easily without a No. 2 guy behind him.

  • Donte Williams

    you crazy if you think that man come on the Steelers are in good shape bell and AB will be back

  • ATL96STEELER

    They did overpay, but even with a young DEF, this is a win now team for the next 2-3 yrs. imo the key in all these contracts is the guaranteed money and how it impacts the overall team. If his ’17 caphit doesn’t go to the moon and I don’t expect it to, they should be okay. They know Bell, Tuitt, and Shazier are on the horizon as well.

  • John Pennington

    One down and a few to go.Now get Bell Tuitt and Shazier and Deebo done. Time to keep our core players.

  • Daniel

    So is it a 4 or 5yr deal?

  • TroymanianDevil

    You think Ben will play for 5 more years?

  • TroymanianDevil

    15/yr would’ve been right. He’s at 17/yr.. hence the over paying

  • Andrew

    It’s a lot of money, but imagine the deal he would get had he hit the market

  • Donte Williams

    17 million a year that doesnt mean thats his cap hit

  • TroymanianDevil

    I believe his skill set will translates into his 30’s just fine.. he has the work ethic and desire to do that.
    The problem imo is the QB throwing it to him in when he’s 33.

  • TroymanianDevil

    They have 4 titles in the last 8 years so I’m not sure what your point is

  • TroymanianDevil

    4 year extension. He had 1 year left on previous deal… so he’s signed for 5 more years

  • Daniel

    Ok

  • Sam Clonch

    4 year extension plus the 1 year he still had on his contract . So under contract for next 5 years.

  • Jacob

    If he is even worth $17m a year right now, will he really be worth that kind of money when he’s in his 30’s?

    I suppose receivers will make more money then, but still..

  • Brantley Stockton

    e·the·re·al
    əˈTHirēəl/
    adjective
    1. of or relating to the regions beyond the earth

    Eternal talent would also apply to AB, as you said.

  • Steeler Fanatic

    They got gouged in the championship game. That was my point. Defense didn’t win the Super Bowl.

  • Sam Clonch

    Shazier won’t be till next year. Gets a 5th year option as a 1st rounder. Which I agree makes Tuitt an important sign this year.

  • TroymanianDevil

    I’m glad a few people understand the implications cap-wise. I love the guy but that’s a lot. I think a 4yr/60mil extension could’ve been had last year, as he still would’ve been the highest paid receiver then. Would’ve saved 8 mil for the team.. Again love AB and he deserves every dollar, it just hurts when there is a cap. If this is the MLB ( no cap) then go for it.

  • RickM

    Not much more I think. This already has made his the highest receiver in the league. I doubt any team would have given him much more for a 4 year deal. Maybe a million more, but that’s about it for a 29 year old receiver come September. I’m not sure any team would have bested this. If he was 26, yes. Not at 29.

  • Steeler Fanatic

    Still about right for the best receiver in the game. You want to look at overpaid, look at Ben.

  • AndyR34

    It was an inadvertent cloud

  • Spencer Krick

    Hooray!

  • Sam Clonch

    There’s a vet minimum that is based on years in the league, plus a compensation system where guys on their 1st contract that play a lot get extra money from the league (Big Al has been collecting checks the last few years this way). That doesn’t count against the cap btw.

    So there is a bottom end. Players are never going to let the NFLPA to limit the top end though.

  • RickM

    Respectfully, it has nothing to do with his skill set or work ethic. As you say, they are well-established. It’s the legs and the step you are guaranteed to lose as you hit 30 and more as you hit 32-33. I still think he’ll be fine, but that’s the reason teams shy away from massive contracts when players are 30+.

  • Sam Clonch

    Agree good deal, but the Steelers DID sign him to a pretty nice contract before when they didn’t need to, before he’d really done anything to deserve it.

  • Sam Clonch

    Probably up a few million. Don’t think it’ll be enough to prevent them from signing the other players they need to this off season.

  • RickM

    Would have been smarter for sure. But as you said elsewhere, unfortunately precedent got in the way.

  • Sam Clonch

    Had $37 mill at the start of the day. $12 for Bell getting the tag, say $16 maybe now for AB (which is only about $3.5 over his prior cap hit of $13.5), I’m guessing about $21.5 million left. Should be plenty for Tuitt, maybe AV and a few others like James.

  • Agustin-ARG

    What happened with trade AB? Lol

  • Sam Clonch

    Not our problem!

  • TroymanianDevil

    They did overpay. I think the bigger issue was making him wait til this offseason. Everyone had to know he was gonna ask for the moon. They should’ve made an exception last year and done the deal then. I made the comments on here a year ago so it’s not just hindsight. Waiting cost them money and they gained nothing

  • Michael Mosgrove

    i figured 13-15 mill. so of our 34 mill cap space it was just cut in half. bell got tagged too so theres another 12 mill. tuitt and deebo still to be done.

  • Nick Sabatella

    My response….. You think he does that with Landry Jones???

  • Jones

    Fat new contract and Brandon Marshall still owes him a car! Good day to be AB!

  • Daniel

    It’s going to be donated to charity

  • Sam Clonch

    Brown was already counting $13.5 on the cap, so the new deal will only raise his hit slightly.

  • RickM

    Very much agree. I don’t care how many times people point out Jerry Rice. He was a very rare exception. $17 M is too much for a third contract unless we’re talking QB. I think we can retain Bryant and Coates for two more years, but if they play well, how do we sign either of them after that? I guess we don’t, which of course would hurt AB’s production. I wish it was around $14 M given the age issue; no such luck.

  • TroymanianDevil

    Let me clarify / explain in further detail. I’m saying his skill set will translate into production, at that age.. similar to Jerry Rice. Who had back to back 1000 yard season at age 39,40 in Oak. 39 and 40. Think about that. So at 33(ish) AB can definitely do it.
    AB isn’t Julio. He’s not 6’4″ and jumping over buildings like Julio (AB is obviously incredibly athletic so I’m not dissing him) But what sets him apart in his route-running, football IQ, ability to improvise when Ben scrambles, etc. Things that will still be there at 33ish. That’s when Julio’s athleticism will decline as you’ve pointed out. Will he put up 1800 yards, probably not, but he should still put up 1200 yards and 10TDs

  • Michael Mosgrove

    it did when the broncos won didnt it. manning was awful that year.

  • TroymanianDevil

    I didn’t say it was,
    Steeler Fanatic had 15mil a year on his comment. I was pointing out that it’s 17 not 15. He has since edited the comment

  • Matt Manzo

    Can we smack all the guys that said we’d trade him?

  • TroymanianDevil

    Sure, but I don’t see why 15.25mil wouldn’t have worked. He would still be the highest paid WR.
    Julio is at 14.25mil. Is AB really 3mil/yr better than Julio. Edelman only makes 4mil/yr. Julio + Edelman = AB? ( approximate math )

  • Michael Mosgrove

    still have to get cockrell signed as well.

  • VaDave

    Boy, the agents sure are happy. Just look at those smiles! Don’t have to score too many of those to have pleasant financial life….

  • TroymanianDevil

    Then it’s a stupid precedent. The point of the precedent is to make things easier for the front office and the betterment of the team. In general, I like the precedent, you can’t have guys complaining every year. But if there was EVER a time to make an exception, it was AB.

  • TroymanianDevil

    Give me 1 Super Bowl and I’ll shut up about overpaying AB, that’s all we really want.. I’m just afraid how this deal ever so slightly hurts our chances for #7. But as you say, let’s worry about that later and go get #7 ( and #8? )

  • Sam Clonch

    Would be nice, but not critical. Put a high round tender on him and he won’t be going anywhere.

  • Steeler Fanatic

    Good point. I just think you can have an opportunistic defense and top 10 offense and win.

  • RickM

    I think Rice is way too easy to cite. There are thousands of guys who lose a step or two and it affected their production. Mentioning one guy that it didn’t affect is cherry-picking. I agree that AB is a great route runner, but even great route runners need the speed to separate. I just don’t think any receiver is worth $17 M a year when 4 of his 5 years will be in his 30’s.

  • TroymanianDevil

    Ok sure. But that’s very selective. The phrase is defense wins championships, not defense always wins championships and never loses. They got gouged last year and won. And were very close this year ( although thank God for Watson b/c I hate Bama). It’s generally true. My point is the defense is why they have 4 titles is 8 years.

    Also I could definitely argue that the fumble is what turned the game around in the Super Bowl, in addition to a few timely sacks pushing ATL out of FG range.

  • Steeler Fanatic

    I get it. I wonder if the team is paying him to reconcile him overperforming his previous contract. idk

  • TroymanianDevil

    Ya must have been. Hence why I’m pulling my hair out over them not signing him last year, even more now that we see how much it cost them.
    And, forgot to reply on the Ben part, Ben is overpaid but it’s at least reasonable in my eyes. I mean Flacco makes more than him haha. QB contracts are just stupid, and I guess WR are getting like that now. I just felt like so much money could’ve been saved with AB.. money to get a CB or resign Timmons and/or Harrison? Imagine an extra 2-3mil/yr to resign those guys .. man. Hopefully it all works out.. all I really want is #7

  • SilverSteel

    14 M/yr would have been more than fair for a 5 yr contract. We have an assload of money tied up in Ben, AB and now Bell and we still struggle in the red zone. We need room to sign the supporting cast too.. I do not begrudge anyone to make as much as they can, but you have to think of the other signings too plus the draft guys and a possible FA for the secondary. No way AB would have turned down 5 yr at 14 Mil… Now if it was a 3 yr contract – that might be different.

  • RickM

    I imagine the Steelers tried for the contract you mention, but AB and his agents rejected it. I don’t think the Steelers’ starting point was anywhere near $17 M a year running through 33. But of course they can re-negotiate if the production doesn’t meet the production in Year 4 and 5. The most important thing was to retain him and mission accomplished. If they overpaid at 32 and 33, it can be remedied I assume.

  • TroymanianDevil

    Oh I agree with you, I think they overpaid, I’m having to defend myself to several people on this very post. But like you said, they couldn’t let him get away.

    And I understand that it’s easy. But for once, I think it applies. Look at his work ethic, they way he takes care of body and his desire to be great. Oddly, most players don’t actually have that. They say they do just for PR. Guys like #12 in NE ( unfortunately ) Emmitt Smith, LeBron have the desire. AB appears to me at least to be in the THAT conversation. And while some people have the desire, they have the wrong skillset.. basically all RBs, I’d include Bettis in that, freak WRs, gunslinger QBs. But AB is different, he doesn’t rely on that freak athleticism, is all I’m saying. He’ll lose a step no doubt. But instead of crazy 1600-1800 yard seasons and backflips into the endzone, I think he’ll have a solid 1200-1300 yard seasons in his 30’s

  • Rocksolid20

    I’ll say 3 more

  • Steeler Fanatic

    Well, look at it this way. Our secondary even with Mitchell is cheap. The left side of the oline isnt expensive… and the receivers outside of AB are inexpensive.

  • WreckIess

    Probably not, but you guys have to understand that there are tiers in between Ben and Landry right? Of course he probably isn’t getting it done like he did with someone as bad as Jones, but with an average QB he’d still dominate.

  • gdeuce

    technically defense did win the Superbowl, if the Falcons even scored a field goal in the 4th quarter then they would have won it

  • TroymanianDevil

    That was somewhat sarcastic b/c he almost certainly won’t play 5 more seasons. I’d love it if he did. I thought 3 as well until all this retirement talk started. Now I’d love 3 and I’m thinking 2. Hopefully he finds his passion again and it’s 5 tho !

  • TroymanianDevil

    Haha thanks. I’m looking at it through a GM eyes that still has to sign Bell to a long term deal. Tuitt has a deal coming this year. Shazier has a deal coming next year. All 3 of those guys are over 10mil/yr. Then Villanueva. They will be able to sign those 4 but deals like this hurt the ability of signing .. Timmons, Harrison, etc. Those role players. And I was hoping for a low level CB signing but that almost certainly won’t happen now. In the end I’ll hope they make the right decisions. Again.. we all want the same end result .. #7

  • will

    Who is the second?

  • The Truth

    Because it’s all about the money. Brown doesn’t really care where he plays just as long as he gets his money.

  • The Truth

    Well he did agree to the previous contract. He shouldn’t have signed it if he didn’t like it. How long before he wants another new contract? 2019? Does it sound crazy? Not is in day and age

  • LucasY59

    yes that is best case scenario, but that is what you hope for even if it isnt realistic

    agree a #2 WR is also important, but I could see the Steelers using a early pick next yr if there are issues still with Bryant (which kinda means there arent issues, because its either he is doing well or he is gone) I think Bryant has lost a lot of leverage on a 2nd deal, but he could just say that he doesnt have to worry about the Steelers and goes and gets big $ elsewhere (eg Wallace/Burress and lesser extent Sanders) but could also see him getting a deal if he is willing to be paid as a #2 (again best case scenario) and they would get a decent comp (unless its worse case scenario which is he gets in trouble and never plays again) but since the team does well drafting WRs I think they will be able to find a good #2 when they need to

    I even think there is a chance they bring in Brandon Marshall to be the #2, but that is kinda a whole nother scenario and is a short term thing as well

  • Rusted Out

    Julio + Eldelman = AB… I like your logic there.

  • Don

    I’m not certain, but I think I see it the way you do. I think this year he gets the 4.7M left over from the last contract plus the 19M new bonus. Then there’s 49M spread across the following 4 years. The 17M/yr over 4 years is the simplistic way it’s described by writers, but it’s really a description of the incremental piece.

    Can anyone verify or correct me on this?

  • Ross McCorkle

    All the holes? A team that went to AFCC game and didn’t lose any significant pieces doesn’t have “a lot of holes” to fill

  • JohnnyFootball

    Cap numbers per PFT

    2017 13.6m
    2018 17.7m
    2019 18.9m
    2020 15.1m
    2021 16.3m

    I’m guessing that is more than a lot of entire WR units on some teams.

  • TroymanianDevil

    Haha that wasn’t exactly what I was trying to say but I’ll take it.

  • Shawn Winbush

    This is hilarious! They’ve underpaid him for the last 3 seasons, AB is just getting what’s definitely due to him.

  • Richard Edlin

    For me, the headline figures on new money are made to be headlines. Yes, we’re overpaying next year by extending — but next year’s salary is artificially low because of all the restructures to date. When he was never going to play for that salary, reporting the new money average is disingenuous.

    If you’re talking e.g. Villanueva it’d be a different story. We know what his next years’ salary would be and that he’s got to play under the ERFA tag, and then under a higher round RFA tag. If he’s given a new contract then anything extra paid has to really be looked at in terms of extra $$$/extra years.

  • Maureen A Gomes

    Zing!

  • Don

    That’s right. They used the bonus and moved around the base so that the 2017 cap hit stayed the same. He’s getting paid the $19M bonus, but his base is only $910K next year.

  • Don

    That’s what happens with long-term contracts. He wasn’t a proven commodity when they originally extended him. They actually took a chance on him at around 8M/yr or so before he was even a #1, let alone “AB”. But he got the security at the time of a long-term deal.

  • Don

    The cap hit will be 15 and 16 the final two years, but remember that the cap will likely be higher, too. That final year will be in 2021. For some context, the cap last year was $155M, up nearly 30% from 2011 when it was $120M.

  • Shawn Winbush

    He was the clear #1 in Pittsburgh then. That’s why they extended over Wallace! Idk how you try and justify it, he was the most proven and consistent of the Young Money Crew, already establishing himself as an electric receiver in the league. The Steelers caught a break with his first contract, which he grossly outplayed, so all the talk of him being overpaid now is ridiculous. Just because he’s not a QB? His talent , hard work, and patience needed to be rewarded. I’m glad the real bosses recognized it and rewarded him

  • Mrs Bighead

    He deserves this, congrats AB, keep smashing records

  • Don

    No. The Steelers clearly liked him better than Wallace, that’s why they gave him the contract, but he wasn’t yet the team’s #1 WR. He signed his contract in the offseason before the 2012 season. The previous season he had an impressive 1108 yards, but Wallace had 1193 and was their #1 WR. 2012 was a disappointing year as the numbers for both of them took a dip, but Wallace still held a slim lead over AB in yards. But aside from the numbers, Wallace was the #1, no question about it. It wasn’t until Wallace left in 2013 that AB became the #1 guy. He exploded that year, but there were definitely questions heading into the season about whether he could step up and be a real #1. I remember Ike Taylor being interviewed on a podcast before the season. He was asked if AB could be a true #1 NFL WR. Ike said he was the best WR in the league which at the time I took as a massively biased opinion. But I was hopeful that he would pan out. He obviously went on to shatter all expectations, but there were doubts at the time. And he got the contract a year before that, so I strongly disagree with you on this.

  • Conserv_58

    Let me clear up a misconception you apparently have.

    First and foremost, the Steelers did not extend Antonio over Wallace because they thought he was the clear number one receiver. If they thought Antonio was the clear number one receiver, at that time, then they would have focused on getting him extended before Wallace. Back then, Antonio was still a relative unknown. He was just starting to make a name for himself, but he was not the game breaking, go-to receiver that Wallace was seen as being.

    The fact of the matter is, at that time, Wallace was demanding a contract extention equal to the mega million dollar contract that Larry Fitzgerald had received. As expected, the Steelers were not about to pay, Wallace such a ridiculous amount, especially for being a one-trick-pony. Instead, they counter offered, with a sensible contract extention worth around 45 million dollars for four years, but Wallace, being the greedy and delusional fool he was, turned the Steelers’ offer down. It was a day later that Antonio and his agent quietly and unceremoniously told the Steelers that they would be glad to take that offer and the rest is history. It was that unannounced and surprising re-signing of Brown that ended any further contract talks between the team and Wallace.

  • Conserv_58

    Indeed, but the fact of the matter is, Drew Rosenhause has several big time athletes for clients. It was Drew Rosenhaus that the lead character in the movie, Jerry McGuire was modeled after.

  • Conserv_58

    Blame the propaganda ministers in the MSM for creating the false narrative in the first place.

  • Conserv_58

    Tuitt is their next priority. Not Bell. Bell has been franchised, thus making him wait until next year.

  • Conserv_58

    NEXT! Now that Bell has been given the franchise tag their next priority is to get Tuitt extended.

  • Paddy

    Question I have is the offense is top heavy in salary cap while the defense is way less. Forget about Timmons coming back?

  • Shawn Winbush

    They clearly favored Brown over Wallace. Wallace was the deep threat, but the chemistry between Brown and Ben was more than apparent midway through tha season. Idk what you were watching but ok. The Steelers organization recognized it, and score a major coup with that modest contract . Brown’s arrow was clearly pointing up in regards to being a #1. Out opinions on him being a#1 didn’t matter, the organization recognized it.

  • Shawn Winbush

    You don’t need to clear up in any misconceptions, because unless your part of the Steelers decision making process, there weren’t any. Brown was going to get a contract offer the organization regardless, it was just a matter of could the Steelers work out a situation to keep them both with the funds that they had. And although I will agree with you Wallace definitely overvaluing himself, AB was nowhere near the consolation price . He was becoming Ben’s favorite, and the organization saw clearly who was the best wr in the YMC.

  • Conserv_58

    Your comment that the Steelers had him cheap is factually wrong. They made a forty-five million dollar offer to Wallace, Wallace and his delusional agent thumbed their nose at it and the following day, Antonio and his agent, quietly and unannounced, told the Steelers that they would glady accept that offer. The deal was consummated that day without anyone, especially the press, realizing it. It was the following day that the report came out that Antonio signed the contract offer that Wallace turned down. Once Antonio signed the offer, the contract negotiations between the Steelers and Wallce ended. Shortly thereafter the desperate, dolphins signed Wallce to a 65 million dollar contract.

    After seeing what the dophins signed Wallace to I remember saying that Wallace will never see the end of that deal because the dolphins will realize their mistake and cut him within three years.

  • Sam Clonch

    Brilliant stuff.

  • Conserv_58

    There is no question that they liked both receivers, but the fact that the Steelers made their number one off season priority that year to enter contract negotiations with, Wallace and not Antonio underscores how wrong you are. As I said above, Antonio was just beginning to make a name for himself, but it was Wallace’s break away speed along with his ability to take the top off of the defense that made re-signing him their top priority. Therefore, it was Wallace that the Steelers viewed as their number one receiver with Antonio as the number two.

    It is an irrefutable fact that once Antonio signed the contract extension there was plenty of controversy by fans and the media wondering if Antonio was a legitimate number one receiver, especially given his short stature compared to the taller elite receivers. There is no question that Antonio heard the naysayers and used it as inspiration to prove them wrong and prove them wrong he did in spectacular fashion.

  • Jones

    My comment that Brown came cheap obviously meant relative to his league-best production (show me a more productive receiver that came much cheaper outside of their rookie contract). I didn’t mean we only offered him a shiny nickel for his services. You must be a blast at parties…

  • Conserv_58

    I certainly did clear up your misconception. You wrongly said that at that time the Steelers saw Antonio as being their number one receiver. That is patently untrue. I’ve gone to great length explaining why in this thread.

  • Conserv_58

    Per Kevin Colbert’s comment, the answer to that question is, it all depends on how much Timmons and his agent will be asking for. If he expects to receive 6-8 mill per season then I think he will price himself off of the team. I think the Steelers are looking at paying an annual salary of around 4-5 mill.

  • Conserv_58

    All thanks to Omar Khan, their chief contract negotiator.

  • Larry Iuluis

    Yes, holes, need two outside linebackers, one to replace Jones, and one to eventually replace aging Harrison, also need another top cornerback to groom to replace Gay who is near the end of his career, plus need a top tight end, since Green has turned out to be injury prone. Need another quality receiver since we do not know if Bryant will get suspended again.

  • Conserv_58

    They’re delusional and jealous, as always.

  • Conserv_58

    I am a blast at parties. The only thing obvious about your comment is you specialize in not saying what you mean. Either that or you got embarrassed and resorted to a juvenile retort.

  • Jones

    Okay… Did anyone besides this contrarian dude with a Napoleon complex infer that i meant AB would have still been considered “cheap” for the Steelers if he had Markus Wheaton-level production?

    Not everyone needs everything spelled out for them, chief. You do, and that’s cool, just try not to cop a condescending attitude while you struggle to have normal human interaction.

  • Guest12

    2 maybe even 3 LBs (Harrison’s replacement is needed), backup RB, backup QB, at least 1 but maybe even 2 CBs (Will Gay is getting slower by the play so we need his replacement and not sure what or if we get anything from Senquez this year), O line depth, possibly a TE, at least 1 WR, and for most of these positions we don’t need just “fill in” or “depth” players, we need a CB and an edge rusher who can contribute right away, we need o line depth right away, we need a TE that can as well just incase Green goes down again, we have at least 3-5 positions we need to bring in a guy who can play right away, with a very low spot in the draft in each round were not likely to get many of those type of guys in the draft so we need to be able to find some in FA for the low, that’s a lot of holes to fill.

  • Rusted Out

    Yea I got what you were going for, but that’s an uphill battle on this site. Fans don’t care about penny pinching when they are that emotionally invested in a player like AB.

  • Nathaniel Sullivan

    Okay guys, stupid question, pertaining to our cap for 2018. Do you think the steelers, if heyward doesn’t play well for 2017 or has another injury, that he could be a post-june 1st cut because his cap hit is 11 mil for 2018 and 2019, and 10 mil for 2020; however if they post-june cut him the steelers will on be hit with 2.4 mil dead money for 2018 and 2019 (I could be wrong on those numbers, if I am, please tell me).

  • RickM

    I think there’s little chance of an LT contract. They just paid $17M a year to a receiver who will play 80% of his contract in his 30’s. I just can’t imagine their leading tackler at 31 accepting a deal for say $4M/yr. Not when he knows older ILB’s have signed deals over the last two years for far more. If there is no interest in him in free agency, that would change everything of course.

  • Ralph Wagner

    Paying fines will be a lot easier now. Lets hope he earns all that money. As Roethlisberger goes so goes Brown.

  • Don

    This is 100% correct. If your memory fails you, just fire up the Google machine and find old reports from the lead up to the 2013 season. One headline from a training camp article on pennlive read: “Antonio Brown, Emmanuel Sanders Step Into Bigger Roles”. Within the article itself, it said: “[Brown] looks ready to take the mantle of the team’s top wideout.” In other words, he hadn’t already been so. There are fantasy previews from the time debating whether he could be a #1 WR or was really just a good #2.

    And all the articles from July 2012 about the Brown contract extension related how talks with Brown started AFTER Wallace had rejected the offer to him (which was higher than the one ultimately agreed upon with Brown BTW). The record is clear.

  • Don

    I thought that was Leigh Steinberg?

  • Shawn Winbush

    There is noooo proof whatsoever that the Steelers signing Wallace was there too priority. If you feel the need to be right about that. .. you can keep that “opinion”. Wallace… as you even stated, was a one -trick pony. Could stretch the defense sure, but didn’t show the greatest of hands or route- running capabilities. The Steelers never even entertained deep negotiations with Wallace, how was he their priority?? 😂😂. He made the statement about wanting top receiver $$$. The Steelers knew then he wasn’t worth it.

  • Nick Sabatella

    Well, hear me out. I like AB a lot. I do think he is (pound for pound) the best in the business.

    I know every WR’s production dips when you don’t have an elite talent at QB…. but my only point is, I think AB’s value (production vs. pay) drops more drastically with subpar QB play than a Julio Jones, AJ Green, Brandon Marshall or Megatron type player.