Steelers 2017 Draft Class Recap

The Pittsburgh Steelers 2017 draft class has now been assembled and if you missed anything concerning the team’s eight selections over the weekend you can get caught up quickly on each player by following the links below.

Over the course of the next several weeks we will have more in-depth breakdowns and articles of each of the eight players along with several of the undrafted free agents who were signed.

SelectionBioBreakdownCombineStatsTwitter
Round 1, Pick 30 (No. 30 overall) T.J. Watt, OLB, WisconsinBioBreakdownCombineStats@_TJWatt
Round 2, Pick 30 (No. 62) JuJu Smith-Schuster, WR, USCBioBreakdownCombineStats@TEAM_JUJU9
Round 3, Pick 30 (No. 94) Cameron Sutton, CB, TennesseeBioBreakdownCombineStats@CamSutton23
Round 3, Pick 41 (No. 105) James Conner, RB, PittsburghBioBreakdownCombineStats@JamesConner_
Round 4, Pick 29 (No. 135) Joshua Dobbs, QB, TennesseeBioBreakdownCombineStats@josh_dobbs1
Round 5, Pick 30 (No. 173) Brian Allen, CB, UtahBioBreakdownCombineStats@B_ALLO_14
Round 6, Pick 30 (No. 213) Colin Holba, LS, LouisvilleBioBreakdownCombineStats@ColinHolba
Round 7, Pick 30 (No. 248) Keion Adams, OLB, Western MichiganBioBreakdownCombineStats@civilSAVAGE1

  • Constantinople

    Outside of the 1st pick, this draft doesnt really impress much, at all. A long-snapper in the sixth?? Are you kidding me, Colbert? Geez…guess we’ll try again next offseason

  • MattHat121

    Sort of depressing to see it all in one place. Not much of a haul considering the talent available.

    All those CB’s, one of the best draft classes ever, and we get Cam Sutton and Brian Allen?

    All those Edges, one of the best draft classes in recent memory, and we get TJ Watt (good) and…Keion Adams.

    All those Tight Ends, one of the best classes in recent memory, and we get…none of them.

    One of the worst QB classes, and we take one.

    A fair-to-middling WR class, and yay we don’t need a WR all that much, and we take one in the second round.

    Decent LB class, with good potential cover guys, and we take none.

    Missed opportunity draft class of 2017.

  • Reg Sayhitodabadguy Hunt

    I agree 100000% too bad the Steelers didn’t nail it like you just did

  • Luke Shabro

    Dave the sky is falling!! Now the Steelers are sure to not even make the playoffs.

    Honestly though this wasn’t my favorite draft but I try to trust Colbert and the process. I always laugh at when big media proclaims drafts and free agency periods a “win” for teams. Outside of the Pats, tell me how often that works out.

    Dave Te liked a lot of these guys, including Allen. People don’t like the WR pick and I get it. But the team clearly wants to insulate themselves from relying upon a bunch of JAGs. And outside of Limas Sweed should we really assume Colbert doesn’t know what he’s doing when it comes to wideouts?

    I don’t love the pick of a LS in the 6th but if you flip the 6th and the 7th does it really matter when those picks are usually fliers anyways? Everyone just needs to take a breath and stop freaking out

  • pittsburghjoe

    This was just a horrible draft. Things did not break well for them and they did no do much to help themselves.

  • CP72

    Think David Todd said it best during the podcast. You could call this draft class pretty much in January.

    We knew we were gonna pick an edge rusher early and probably gonna double dip….check

    We were gonna pick a corner early and probably double dip….check

    We needed to find a back that can take some carries off Lev Bell….check

    We might to find a young developmental quarterback…check

    I don’t even think the wide receiver is that much of a surprise with Bryant and Coates being huge question marks. It was earlier than I thought it would be, but not surprising they wanted to fortify the position.

    I hate hate hate the long snapper pick, but the rest of this went like I thought it would. My biggest surprise is that people are so shocked by it.

  • pittsburghjoe

    The 6th is important. We would not have AB without.

  • Ed Smith

    Kind of reminds me of the country song “What was I think’in?”

  • barry foster

    Thank you seems like deja vu from last year now Artie burns and Sean Davis jerseys are flying off the rack

  • barry foster

    2 explosive edge rushers 2 zone and press corners a solid running back the 4th ranked receiver in the draft what much more do you want

  • Justin Warrenfeltz

    This would’ve been my draft based on how it all played out this weekend:
    1(30): EDGE TJ Watt
    2(62): CB Fabian Moreau
    3(94): S Eddie Jackson
    3(105): EDGE Carl Lawson
    4(135): RB James Conner (if available)
    5(173): TE Bucky Hodges
    6(213): CB Jalen Myrick
    7(248): WR KD Cannon

  • Justin Warrenfeltz

    How about not drafting a career-backup QB in the fourth, a long snapper in the 6th, and completely ignoring TE and S, and waiting until the third to draft a CB?

  • Shannon Stephenson

    Now I could live with that.

  • Justin Warrenfeltz

    There were also several spots they could’ve taken a QB, though I personally don’t see the need to grab one. Kelly in the 7th or Kaaya in the 6th wouldn’t have ruffled my feathers. Jerod Evans went undrafted, why not grab him?

  • steelersfan

    Watt, Sutton, Conner, Dobbs, Allen. That’s 5 of the 8 picks that were identified as being likely Steelers choices prior to the draft. I’m not a fan of drafting a QB but had resigned myself to this pick weeks ago. As for the other four, I loved them as possible Steelers when they were identified and am very happy they are now official Steelers. Add to this we get one of the better wide receivers in the draft. Yes he wasn’t identified as a possibility beforehand so people weren’t able to mentally/emotionally prepare themselves to this guy as opposed to someone like Chris Godwin. Once you read up about him and watch him play it’s possible we hit it out of the park with this pick (comparisons to Boldin and Ward). Drafting a long snapper is horrendous but it shouldn’t define this draft class.

  • Shannon Stephenson

    Kelly would have been fine in the 7th as he was the only one IMO that has a shot at being a good QB thus late.

  • CP72

    I will give you the LS pick….I was flabbergasted.

  • Justin Warrenfeltz

    Agreed. But if they were drafting their backup for the future and not sold on Landry Jones, I’m fine with someone like Kaaya in the 6th or Evans as an UDFA.

  • barry foster

    Cam sutton is no slouch and what did we need a safety for we have 2 starters safety can wait till next draft we got a physical freak in the 5th round that could press we can’t have it all

  • CP72

    How do you know what Dobbs will be….wait I will save you some time….you don’t.

  • Justin Warrenfeltz

    COLBERT HIMSELF said Dobbs was drafted to be the backup. Open your ears dude.

  • Mike Lloyd

    This draft, AW (After Watt) is just a head shaker. Not for the positions chosen, for those that weren’t.
    They must know something about Ladarius that we don’t all know, and are they happy with the safety position with Davis and Mitchell? I guess.. Davis yes, but they seemed more interested in the safety position predraft.

  • The Big Cheese

    Having overcome the LS shock and slept on it, I’m at least warming to the pick today. Here’s why: We likely got a guy to lock down a critical special teams position for a decade in the 6th round. Consider the impact one muffed snap on a punt, extra point or field goal can have on a game, especially across the NFL in the winter. Hitting the sweet spot with a snap every time has to be a dream scenario for kicker and holder.

  • Justin Warrenfeltz

    I don’t mind the Sutton pick. He lacks speed, but I’m ok with him on the team. I just think we would’ve gotten more value if we had drafted earlier.

  • CP72

    I did hear that. I’m simply saying that to assess a player before he plays a down is impossible. He can’t be Russell Wilson’, Dak Prescott, or Kurt Cousins?

  • CP72

    I think after Obi and Jones went mere picks before the 2nd pick they decided to focus on other positions.

  • Justin Warrenfeltz

    You very well could be right. But the success rate of QBs drafted outside of the top two rounds is woefully bad.

  • steelersfan

    Yeah the less you are aware of the LS the better and we were hardly ever aware of Warren- just goes to show how great of a job he did….and the fact we’ve spent over a decade not seeing it as an issue probably unfairly makes this pick look worse….still hate it though hahaha

  • CP72

    It is….I’m just not much for saying this player will be this or that before we see them play. Was actually surprised Colbert made that comment cause the truth is he doesn’t really know.

  • Justin Warrenfeltz

    I’ll agree with you on that. I was against drafting a QB at all, so my position is that anyone we drafted was a waste of a pick we could’ve used elsewhere.

  • barry foster

    Yes bottom of the barrel but I think we still made out addressing our needs only holes I see is the inside linebacker depth

  • CP72

    Dobbs was actually my favorite of all of them. Smart, work ethic, a lot of physical ability. He likely won’t be a starter, but he’s got some traits of that might give him a chance.

  • D.j. Hoy

    Ya’ll are salty.
    Watt can contribute immediately.
    Juju can contribute immediately.
    Cam Sutton can contribute immediately.
    Conner can contribute immediately.
    Dobbs is a smart player and has some nice touch. Do you really feel comfortable with Landry being the backup?
    Brian Allen has great potential, maybe a PS guy for a year, or maybe he pushes for a spot on the 53 this year.
    Holba (AKA He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named) Is going to be about 1/4 of Warren’s salary and obviously has more ability than the UDFAs they have brought in the past few years. Not a sexy pick, but how about give Colbert some credit for knowing more about the situation than us couch GMs?
    Adams seems to be another flyer on a good athlete who could end up being a PS guy or maybe eventually develop into a ST guy.
    Point is – let the guys play before you all start the “Colbert doesn’t know what he’s doing, this was a bad draft” talk.

  • The Big Cheese

    I’m still only warm. But if an accurate, consistent, in rhythm snap adds maybe 5% to a field goal kicker’s percentage, or a yard to the distance, or a yard to a punter’s average every kick, that stuff adds up. It is a game of inches, after all, and details matter.

  • Mike Lloyd

    I’d have done cartwheels down the church aisle if this was our draft.

  • Justin Warrenfeltz

    It very easily could’ve been.

  • MattHat121

    No trade ups to secure better talent or fill position of need at a higher level, or trade downs to maximize opportunity. Passive in free agency and passive in the draft. Bad combo.

  • Dr. Bacon

    Remember: Just because they didn’t draft who you wanted them to, doesn’t make this an unsuccessful draft.

  • Justin Warrenfeltz

    This is how I feel x1000%

  • B&G

    I agree with others that I don’t think the board broke well for the Steelers, but that’s no excuse: when that happens, you trade up (for second round db) or trade back. I do think that the Steelers are too passive in waiting for whatever comes to them. I get that they probably have similar grades on several players at each spot, but I’d love to see them move up to get a specific player at certain spots. I mean, the fact that they didn’t do that in round two has to mean they actually didn’t like the available dbs that much, right?

    The one thing I’d like to know, and the one thing I’ll never know, is whether Colbert and Tomlin truly think they nailed this draft or whether they looked at each other after the draft and said “that just didn’t quite go our way.”

  • Justin Warrenfeltz

    It’s not about drafting the people I wanted them to, it’s about either drafting the Best Player Available (which they didn’t), or drafting positions of need (which they half-did). See my draft a few comments down.

  • MattHat121

    Totally agree and we will never know and they won’t admit it publicly obviously.

  • WreckIess

    I didn’t realize that the general reaction to this draft was so negative. The board didn’t break well for them at all after the 1st, but I still like/understand the talent they grabbed. It wasn’t flashy, but I still think it was a good draft.

    I think we’ll see the top 3 picks get a decent amount of PT this year(Shuster will probably get the most, followed by Watt, and I think Sutton takes over for Gay sometime after mid-season), Connor gets some carries every now and then while the rest of the picks sit back and develop. When you listened to Tomlin’s answer to “What led to you losing to New England?” His answers were seemingly what led to the picks. So this draft really shouldn’t be much of a surprise. The team really doesn’t have too many needs so they filled the few that they did have in the first 3 rounds.

    A less talked about point is that this draft was an endorsement for Vince Williams and Ladarius Green which is a great thing. If they believe Williams can be an impactful starter and the Green can maintain his health then the team is already better than we had thought.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Did I read that Brain Allen combine statement correct? Said he allowed 42.5 percent passing his way. That is really really good!

  • JohnB

    we needed to replace Gay, we did
    we needed to get a OLB for the right side, we did
    we don’t know about Green. they do
    we drafted a guy to be a backup cause we needed better depth there
    don’t need a WR? when teams doubled Brown, Ben had nowhere to throw. Did you watch in 2016?

  • Trevor

    Every round is important. But can you name other 6th round picks off the top of your head that have contributed to the roster? A long snapper isn’t sexy, but if he’s the long snapper for the next decade, he’s a good pick and he’s doing more than 90% of 6th rounders. And his chances of doing so are pretty high. I don’t like the pick but logically it makes sense.

  • MattHat121

    Better CBs than Sutton.

    Better TE’s available in draft to fill void when Green inevitably misses more time.

    Backup QB could’ve been taken later. 4th round had good players.

    WR taken later than second round given more dire needs at CB/cover LB.

  • JohnB

    yeah but we don’t get an AB every sixth pick unfortunately…that’s high hopes that will be broken most of the time. 6th round is where you draft your special teamers anyway and the long snapper is one of the most critical positions on almost every 4th down.

  • B&G

    That is probably the case, but if they liked either of those guys, who dropped further than many thought they would, then they should have traded up (even at the cost of their fourth round pick) to go get one of them. I guess they didn’t like those guys as much as others did — if they were sitting there saying “shucks, look how unlucky we got that two DBs we really wanted went off the board just ahead of our pick,” then they are terrible at drafting.

  • Wayne’O

    Wow how I agree with you a 1000% DJ. It’s funny how the NFL channel keeps replaying the Mel Kiper blowup with the GM from the Colts in 1995, were the GM asked who the HELL is Mel Kiper JR? Because Kiper was adamant that the Colts made a bad decision by passing on the next, best, greatest QB of all-time “Trent Dilfer.” And decided to stick with Jim Harbaugh who ironically led the Colts to the AFC Championship game vs. The Steelers the same year. Lol Hallarious!!

  • JohnB

    we don’t know that yet
    we still have Jesse James.
    Not one they liked. Kayaa has no arm.
    Again if you want quality number 2 WR you draft higher.

  • Steel Realist PAul

    Agree about moving at times to get the player you want. Who knows if they wanted WR more than DB tho? I was hoping for Awuzie big time in the 2nd.

  • B&G

    I just would feel so much better about this draft with a DB in round two rather than a WR. Well, I’d still hate the LS pick, but everything else would be okay. I think I’ll end up liking JuJu as a player, but I wanted an OLB-DB first two rounds, in either order.

  • barry foster

    2 thumbs up !!!

  • SteelersGeek4Lyfe

    Nothing against the kid personally, but I really don’t understand taking JuJu in the 2nd. Antonio has wr1 locked down, Eli Rogers will be the slot receiver, and I’d be shocked if JuJu could beat out Martavis for wr2. The best case scenario for the steelers would be that Martavis stays clean and JuJu competes with Coates for wr4, with the worst case scenario being that he competes with Coates for wr2… I’m just not convinced of the value there.

  • StolenUpVotes

    This pick should tell you that Rogers doesn’t have the slot “locked” down at this point.

  • Luneth Gardens

    Watt, nothing more needs to be said. I think it’s a good pick. Sure they could’ve gone CB there, but they still got a good player with major upside. He won’t be expected to start day 1 and can learn behind Harrison.
    JuJu, well, I’m not sold on the pick, but it does send a message to Bryant and Coates. We know Bryant’s situation, maybe Coates injuries are worse than feared. JuJu definitely upgrades the X behind AB if you want to think of him that way, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him as the number 1 slot guy by the end of the season. A la Cotchery-a big, physical, combat catch guy who can move the chains.
    Sutton, I can’t say much about him, not familiar. It addressed a need, but past drafts suggest the Steelers evaluation of mid round talent at CB is not stellar. See Grant, Brown, etc.
    Conner, I’m on board. He brings a big back who can complement Bell. He could be used in the 4th quarter to burn the clock and preserve leads while giving Bell a much deserved rest and keep some carriers off his wheels. Those carriers tend to be between the tackles and are physical, grind them out yards. Goal line situations are a possibility too. He also has the ability to catch out of the backfield. He’s no Bell, but can still get it done. On top of that, I have to believe the Steelers know more about this guy than anyone else. One of the knocks on him was that he didn’t have the speed and burst, but by the end of last year he was better than the start. He got stronger and maybe the Steelers know his burst and speed will only get better with further recovery from the illness.
    Dobbs, what can you say. I truly believe he’s a “dry run”. In no way do I see the Steelers passing on a QB next year if there’s one they like. It gives them a chance to see how their evaluation process worked this year. He’s the anti-other burger from what I’ve heard. Zack has a million dollar arm and a 10 cent head. Colbert said in his pre-draft presser that you don’t want to be caught in a situation where you don’t have a plan in place should your No. 1 guy retire unexpectedly. He’s insurance. If he wins the job, great, so be it and they only spent a 4th on him. If not, he’s at least a decent backup option.
    Allen, I really like this pick. Very raw, sure. He’s had very little time as a CB after converting. He’s big, physical and has upside. He’s probably one of my favorite picks. I could see him pushing Gay or Sensabaugh out the door as I don’t think this guy gets by waivers and to the PS.
    Holba? Head scratcher. Maybe Warren is dealing with something or the Steelers know he’s thinking of retiring. He signed a 1 yr team/cap friendly deal. Maybe he did it with retirement in mind and told the Steelers that he’d give them another year unless they find another option.
    Adams, just another guy who tries to make the team on special teams. A practice squad guy, maybe he pushes Chickillo.

  • Jaybird

    Bingo !

  • newguy68

    1st round (B+) – I like Watt a lot. Great motor, played against some great competition in the Big 10. Position of need. Best football is a head of him

    2nd Round (C) – A “C” as in i don’t “see” a need for WR this high. In the later rounds, sure .. not in the 2nd. Great, great group of TE’s this year and we get none. But we got another WR in round #2. Brown, Bryant, Coates, Rogers, Hunter, Ayers and now Ju-Ju. Guess we’ll just try and outscore the Pats and forget playing Defense.

    Round 3A (B) – I like Sutton and hope he beats out Sensabaugh to make the roster. Played like 40 + games in the SEC against some of the best competition there is in college football. Nice pick

    Round 3B (A-) – Love the Conner pick. Love it. Could we have gotten him in the 4th? Maybe, but this is a great pick. Bell & Conner have the potential to wear down teams in the 4th quarter

    Round 4 (B) – I like Dobbs, great kid and super intelligent. Played in the SEC for 2 + years. Already the 3rd best QB on the team. They wanted a younger QB and they got one. Sill no Tight End in a great crop of TE’s.

    Round 5 (A) – Love the pick of Brian Allen. Great value. Tall, athletic and good to great measurements at Corner. Played against some good QBs in the PAC 10 (or PAC 12??). Going on a limb to say the corners this year for the Steelers will be: Burns, Cockrell, Sutton, Allen and I hope Golson. Great pick.

    Round 6 (D) – He better beat out Warren and be perfect on all snaps. Makes no sense

    Round 7 (B) – We could always use another athletic OLB (maybe he moves inside). Productive and athletic. Good pick.

  • Lee Foo Young

    Kinda hard to evaluate a draft the day after. Now, 2 or 3 years later? I bet the Browns were doing cartwheels after getting Justin Gilbert and Barkevious Mingo.

    I remember reading how much of a steal it was getting Limas Sweed and Fred Gibson.

    Look how many articles are written doing re-drafts of the first round. Look at how many “finds” there are on the 2nd and 3rd days.

  • StolenUpVotes

    Will be an interesting camp battle

  • Jaybird

    Holba’s salary , if he bets out Warren , would be about half of warren’s , not a quarter. It would save about 500k

  • Jaybird

    Gregg Lloyd was a 6 th round pick, wasn’t he.

  • SteelersGeek4Lyfe

    I guess he did have some issues with not showing up to practice and stuff. Heyward-bey is old, Coates may not be the guy, anything from Ayers is a bonus, and Martavis is a risk. I just think the wr upside was already there, where the upside isn’t as clear at other positions. What do I know though! I wasn’t a big fan of the Artie pick last year either and now I wouldn’t trade him for anyone.

  • Danielsteelstrong81

    He has the same fundamentals Prescott had when Prescott got drafted.

  • I think we did okay, but a QB AND a LS? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

  • JesusChristTheGodMan .

    But that’s all subjective based on their board in opposition to yours, clearly their board did not look like yours did. In fact I’m going to go out on a massive limb and say you have no idea what the Steelers board value was, and your basing this off of your own view of players you liked which is what Bacon was getting at.

  • Justin Warrenfeltz

    This isn’t my board. And I guess we’ll only know once these players are a few years into their careers. But I have a hard time seeing how this puts us over the hump to a Super Bowl victory.

  • Great breakdowns of our newest players! Thanks, Dave.

  • George Hareras

    None of us were too thrilled with the Burns or Davis pick last year and I think they turned out pretty good lol. Let’s just trust that the FO knows more about football than we do

  • westcoasteeler

    Man, only time will tell. We needed plug in talent on the defense as our zone got picked apart. I like the guys we picked cause I’m a homer, but it seams we drafted passionate developmental players. I’m really hoping they like the new color of their blood and start studying.

  • George Hareras

    I’m not sure why everyone is freaking out over the TE position. They must trust Green. James is a solid number 2 and good to start occasionally. I recall seeing some huge plays out of him last year. Also they must think Grimble is a good enough move TE that it didn’t warrant spending a pick on one this year. I’m fine not going TE, though I’m a little worried about ILB

  • Andrew

    JuJu in the slot could give us three headed monster at WR. Brown being Brown, Bryant stretching the field, and JuJu working the slot will be fun to watch. If an injury occurs, JuJu can shift outside and Eli can work the slot again.

  • Anthony Leon-Guerrero

    Steelers fans always complain about EVERYTHING dear lord you guys we havent had a losing season in 10+ years trust the process

  • Dave

    In the Steeler organization we trust! While I’m not here to throw shade on any other armchair or media GM’s, I’ve been paying attention to the draft since the early 90’s and respect the opinions of Gil Brandt and Dave Te.
    Gil had 5 players we drafted in his top 91: Schuster-36, Watt-60, Dobbs-83, Sutton-85, and Connor-91, so we drafted very solid by his rankings.

    But Dave Te’ has been my favorite talent evaluator over the years with a track record no media analyst can match. It was a real treat that he took the time to be on your podcast and say his respects for Steeler Nation. Appears that the Steelers front office agrees with his assessments too.
    Dave loves Watt and said he could be better than JJ. He also said the dropoff after his top 5 made the rest just flyers (hit or miss prospects). Others he noted:
    Dobbs- Taller version of Russell Wilson type QB
    Connor- Good fit for the Burgh
    Allen- Dave raved about this kid so much you need to listen to that podcast again

    While I really wanted Bucky Hodges late and was shocked at the LS pick, it’s time for some younger and cheaper competition for the roster spot.

    I loved this draft and concur with Dave Te again as he stated that Timmons replacement was on the roster already with Matakevich.

  • Andrew

    I would have gone secondary with the first pick. So many pass rushers fell

  • Justin Warrenfeltz

    Can’t argue with that logic. I like Watt though, so I didn’t mind the pick.

  • Steve Johnson

    I think Obi was overrated; yes, I was GaGa over him as well, but he was pretty much a Combine Darling everybody fell in love with. The CB in the 5th (Allen), I’m curious to see if he can make the team. The only problem I have is will he even make the 53?

  • SteelerMike

    There seems to be a line of thinking that the Steelers have legitimate confidence in Ladarius Green, that they know something positive that we fans don’t know. Unfortunately, there’s nothing the team knows privately that somehow voids Green’s known concussion history. Green’s career is likely to end prematurely due to repeated brain injuries which are keeping him off the field for extended periods of time. I think there is a reasonable chance this is his last season with the team. And I think the team realizes the same, they are just hoping to get lucky for a season or two since they just inked his deal last offseason.

  • JesusChristTheGodMan .

    It’s to be expected after the draft, go and look at last year’s reactions, pretty much a yearly recurring theme

  • JesusChristTheGodMan .

    Exactly! Said the very same thing down further in the discussion

  • Tom McConnell

    Lot of unhappy people below. The facts are as I’ve said every year. They addressed needs.

    Watt is not who “I” wanted, but a good pick. I wanted a corner in 2nd, but the ones I thought would be there were gone. Juju, is going to work hard for us. Sutton, is a 3rd round corner and we needed one. Conner, we needed a RB. The Dobbs & Allen both I like & had them in my mock. Actually, had Allen for Safety, he plays both. The DE that I wanted in the 3rd is a Raven, damn, but they picked one late. Yes, the LS was a surprize.

    If they address needs, they’re ok.

  • Steve Johnson

    According to the experts, this draft was filled with CB’s, OLB’s, the two pressing needs the Steelers need. This is a team that made it to the AFC Championship Game. This is the same team that won nine games in a row to close out the 2016 regular season. Why not draft players to fix the two weakest areas on the Defense? Defense Wins Championships! Offense Scores Points. The organization is so fixated on doing things a certain way, sometimes it appears they can’t even think outside-the-box even if it would help the team in the long run. I have no issue with T,J. Watt, but like I said numerous times before the draft, if the Steelers really wanted a CB, why not take one in Rd 1, then draft a LB in the second Rd. If T.J. last name was Watt, do you really think he would have been considered a 1st Rd pick? How many years have we as true fans watched the secondary get carved up (Like a Turkey on Thanksgiving) even when they have had a decent pass rush? Their were plenty of CB’s/S on the board at #30. JuJu Smith? Again, I understand the pick; can we really trust a guy like Bryant who clearly loves the weed more than Football or taking care of his family? Sammie Coates? The famous One-Trick-Pony? I just think they could have waited a Rd or two. However, (CB) Chidi and (S) Jones were drafted Back-To-Back right before #62. Cameron Sutton in the 3rd and Allen in the 5th? Ok, again CB’s drafted in the 3rd and 5th Rds just to be cut or placed on the Practice Squad? Hey, if they make the team and can produce, fine. If not, yet another Goof by Colbert and Tomlin. QB Joshua Dobbs? If he wasn’t drafted to be Big Bens successor, then why waist a pick on a QB especially when (CB) Desmond King was still on the board? Or, was Dobbs drafted to replace Landry Jones? (RB) Conner? I can’t argue with the pick, Tomlin ran the wheels right off of LeVeon Bells legs last year, something he is known to do. The last two picks? A long snapper in the 6th? Are you kidding me? I think he would have been a phone call away after the draft. But, this is what it is, I guess we will all have to wait and see how this pays out.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Why would they want to get lucky with Green, but draft a wr in the 2nd?

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Juju will take Rogers spot.

  • Reg Sayhitodabadguy Hunt

    Well when I was watching one of their last picks they showed the Steelers war room and to be honest they kinda looked disappointed

  • Marcel Chris Chauvet

    At that point in the draft, nobody else had a grade worthy of that draft slot… Maybe an offensive guard, but I’ll take a backup receiver over a backup guard any day and twice on Sundays (pun intended). He was actually a great value in that spot. He was a top of the second round projection by most. I think the receiver needy teams taking guys in the top ten changed that. I don’t know that it was so much a choice as it was a lack of options. I also think that he’ll beat out Eli Rogers for that slot role by midseason.

  • Constantinople

    this draft was absolute dogshit, i’m extremely disappointed with the way the front office approached this weekend. i guess we’ll know for sure just how pathetic this draft was a few years from now, and believe me, i’d love to eat all the crow in the world and be proven wrong, but i just don’t see it.

    thanks a lot of, kevin, you must’ve forgotten that you’re no longer the GM of the detroit lions. dumbass.

  • Xclewsive

    Brother thank you I thought I was the only one!

  • Constantinople

    jesse james is a “nice” player to have, but his ceiling isn’t really all that high, what we saw out of him last year is likely as good as it gets, and for me, it doesn’t quite cut it for today’s tight end position.

  • Constantinople

    “let’s just trust that the FO knows more about football than we do” lol this is such a ridiculous copout response, can’t stand when people pull that crappy line out. so, what, should we just not even discuss anything to do with professional football, since we don’t work for the team? what about teams whose front offices continually blow it in F/A and the draft? Should those fans just “trust” teams because some suits in an office think they’re some sort of subject matter expert on the sport of football? Not accepting that line of thinking, sorry.

  • Reg Sayhitodabadguy Hunt

    I agree but I will give this group of guys a chance and support them moving fwd although it’s really hard for me to think that they drafted the right players to put this team over the top to win the Superbowl the other teams especially in our division got better

  • Matt Manzo

    Here’s how I’m looking at it now!
    If this was the Patriots draft haul, we would’ve all been jealous and saying how much these guys are gonna be a good fit on their team!

  • kdubs412

    This draft is all kinds of underwhelming. Reaching for Conner in the third, taking a QB they don’t even project as a starter in the 4th and taking a frickin long snapper in the 6th are totally indefensible moves. They struggled at TE all season, are absolutely gifted George Kittle in the fourth and pass?! How? His tape is incredible and his measurables are off the charts!

  • kdubs412

    The only round I think things didn’t break well was round 2. They screwed up on their own in rounds 3, 4 and 6.

  • SteelerMike

    I’m not sure what you mean… that by drafting WR means they are not concerned about TE? I think they drafted JuJu out of recognition they did not have very good, reliable receivers behind AB last year, whether they were WRs or TEs. They needed to get another guy that Ben can target in the pass game.

  • Chris92021

    My takes:

    1. I guess Ladarius Green is OK and good to go. Maybe that’s why we didn’t grab a TE. God knows we had chances to get a kid like Hodges (who I swore was going to be drafted because we all know how much Coach Tomlin loves those kids from coastal VA like him)

    2. This was the deepest draft for secondary guys that I can remember. I live in the South and saw a lot of SEC football on local TV, and I love Cam Sutton. The kid is a good football player although he is of slight build. I think if he didn’t break his leg, he would have gone in the 2nd round. I see Sutton as a guy who hopefully by the middle of the season can help us in the dime and perhaps even the nickel (which is our base package now).

    3. Speaking of which, there are no real 3-4 teams anymore. Now it is more like a 3-3-5. Perhaps that is why we didn’t go grab a ILB to pair with Shazier. I think the team likes Vince Williams and Tyler Matakevich enough to give them every chance to get on the field on defense. I would much rather have another safety out there whenever there are those short crossing routes instead of a ILB on 3rd downs.

    4. I am most excited about Brian Allen because that is a lot of raw clay to mold. Who knows if he will be a CB, safety, or possibly even ILB if he can carry 10-15 more lbs. Sure, he will probably be a game day inactive (I predict he won’t clear waivers if he plays well in preseason like I anticipate) but he is a guy who can help us out in 2018 and beyond.

    5. As for Juju Smith-Schuster…let’s not forget in 2016, our 2nd best receiving option for most of the season was Le’Veon Bell. That is not a good thing. The defense needed to be addressed but so did the offense, the same offense that sputtered in KC (no TDs) and looked helpless in New England (just 17 points) once Bell went out with the groin injury. Smith-Schuster might not take the top off any defense but he will be a guy who can help us out on 3rd and 6+ and create more room for others on his side of the field. He is also insurance for the moment when Bryant screws up again (I am not holding my breath that he will be reliable because he’s screwed too many times before). Also I am thinking maybe during training camp, we will move Coates for a mid-round pick in next year’s draft if most of the things work out.

    Honestly, I am excited about this draft save for the long snapper. Then again, if Holba plays for the next 10 plus years and never screws up a snap, then I will gladly eat my words. September can’t come fast enough.

  • Big White

    Strange that the Steelers didn’t give Clemson ILB Ben Boulware a look anywhere in the draft. Signed today by the Panthers. With the loss of Timmons and Shazier’s tendency to get nicked up, the Jack Lambert Award Winner would have looked nice in black & gold. Perhaps they view Dirty Red as more than just a special teamer.

  • Peter Griffin

    FIRE KOLBERT – Guy is totally lost… wasted another draft.

  • Michael Conrad

    I see one starter in the 8 picks. The long snapper if he does not win the job the GM looks bad. I see some playing time for Watt and Conner and I see JJSS starting at slot by game four.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Wouldn’t they want to be “lucky” with the wr situation like the tight end situation? I just don’t get the maybe will get lucky with the Green situation.

  • Robert E Lil

    I do not understand the dismay. They got an “edge rusher”
    That’s what everyone wanted

  • TsarPepe

    Don’t forget: Conner was essentially a 4th-rd pick. And I see nothing strange in the Steelers having a 4th-rd grade on him and thinking that he won’t be there by the end of the round.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    JohnB-

    All of the things you are saying are true. The question is which round do you address each need?

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    They wanted at least 4 edge rushers and 4 dbs! Lol!

  • Steeler-Drew

    The more I think about it the Steelers draft was so rehearsed with the position they wanted to fill and the few options available each round it’s not even funny. Come hell or high water they were getting their edge rusher in the first. If Watt was gone in the first they probably would have reached for Rivers. In the 2nd round if Ju Ju was gone it would have been Godwin. In the 3rd if Sutton was gone it would have been Kazee or Elder. Conner seemed pre determined with their second third round pick. If Dobb’s was gone in the 4th I think it would have been Kaaya. Based their pre draft interest in later round CBS you just knew they were going back to the well with a 5th round flier at CB. LS in the 6th if he was there once again predetermined. And an edge flier in the 7th, no surprise there. This draft was telegraphed by the Steelers from the beginning all way down to Rooney comments about needing to improve the pass rush and the need to start thinking about the QB position.

  • Steeler-Drew

    Another cop out is for those who know they should have gone secondary in the 2nd defending the WR pick saying the board didn’t break their way or they were unlucky. Give me a break. There was something like 40 trades and they were not involved in one of them even though they had extra 3rd round pick to work with.

  • Taylor Williams

    Landry Jones is no where near as bad you think. We’re not gonna keep a starter backup. If Ben gets hurt, we’re screwed no matter who we have.

  • JNick

    At this point we need to be aware that Tomlin and Colbert don’t trade up unless it’s mid to late rounds. In the first two they will let the board go in front of them. It’s like expecting the Pirates to pursue a coveted FA. You may hear alot of buzz about it but they just don’t do it. They are not an aggressive drafting tandem.

  • JNick

    I didnt like that they weren’t aggressive and let the Browns trade up and grab a highly athletic, great value TE, right in front of them. I didn’t like that they drafted a LS . Im not happy that they grabbed a possesion WR in the second.
    I felt like they reached for Connor and drafted out of fear, which is something Tomlin preaches against.
    This draft may turn out good, but right now it’s leaving a sour taste in my mouth.

  • mark mcfadden

    mark mcfadden

    After reading all of your comments, so much wrong speculativestatements,
    so I am going to set you all straight. And remember the Coaches will
    NEVER tell the media any of their plans for players because they never
    want them in their business and that is exactly what the media always
    try to do, so remember all NFL teams have a very strong secret hate for
    the media. The reason for each pic. In our evaluation Eli had good hands
    at times, the negatives, he lacked separation speed, almost no YAC,
    small frame and was easily rerouted or shut down in his route causing
    Ben to have to hold the ball, so hence the upgrade of Ju Ju. The
    cornerback position that suffered so much this year and allowed a lot of
    3rd down conversions was the slot (Gay never for some reason defended
    the sticks) hence the quick 5″11 CB who has very good stick to the guy
    coverage skills and and a 4 year starter in college, and his coach said
    he never made the wrong decision on film, a true football player and
    that is exactly what we need in the slot position. Those of you making
    bad statements about Cockrell are fools, He was the number one rated
    corner on the Steelers last year, and had better stats than Artie
    including more passes defensed. So on the depth chart he is the number
    one corner and Artie is number 2. You guys Know why we got the RB, he
    weighs the same and has the same 40 time as Bell when we drafted him,
    and he doesn’t go down when you hit him you have to wrap your weight
    around his waste before he goes down. Williams promised Mike he will be
    the best cover linebacker on the team and will work on it non-stop, a
    glaring weakness of Timmons and why the Steelers would not offer more
    than 4.5-5 million a year. Everyone kept telling him he was worth 6
    million a year and he wouldn’t take any less, and when miami asked him
    what he was looking for he told them 6 for 2 years, and that made them
    quite happy, and he eventually leveraged them for 10 million to be
    guaranteed. Matakevich has improved significantly in practice so we are
    not worried about his backup prowess. Jesse James continues to improve
    and has developed some tricky routes where he continues to get
    separation and sometime wide open, so as long as Green plays this year
    and doesn’t fake concussion symptoms, we know that now, we have plenty
    of good pass catcher TE’s that’s (3) on the team. So quit fretting about
    the ILB’s and TE’s. It was time to draft a QB to push the other ‘s
    because if Mecklenburg doesn’t show he coming up Landry’s back then
    Dobb’s can unseat him this year or next. That is what depth means. I
    didn’t know about the LS until it happened, but I found out he was big
    6″ 3 and the best LS available this year, and the Steelers really
    require consistency from their LS’s. So get to know your players like
    Eli, Gay, Cockrell, Timmons, and know their weaknesses. Two of them can
    keep their jobs this year, but they have to prove they can produce more
    than our new recruits when by the way: on film the new guys are
    significantly better, CB and WR. And to repeat Cockrell is our number
    one corner right now. They didn’t offer a higher offer (for all you
    media speculating idiots) because there were a significant number of
    corners available in free agency this year that flooded the market and
    made signing another teams cornerback a very uncommon occurrence, and
    Kevin was right, that’s called experience. We didn’t need a Late round
    slow ILB that wouldn’t be able to cover the pass and that is all that
    was left in the 5th round, after what we saw from our ILB’s here late in
    the year. And there were no TE’s left who could run a 4.6 or faster in
    the late rounds with decent hands and enough starter experience. So we
    didn’t need a whole lot , like Kevin said, like TJ Watt, being there for
    us, the draft of the specific players we needed to do certain exact
    tasks fell to us like the Browns thinking we were going to draft their
    intended CB (which we weren’t) they convince Green Bay they had inside
    information that we were taking a CB hence the trading back by Green
    bay, and Green Bay ended up not getting their guy this year. Read their
    websites, TJ Watt was the known 1st round pick for the coaches and the
    fans. So all of the picks are good for varying reasons, and the QB has a
    rocket arm and is smart enough to eventually learn how to be a pocket
    passer and learn how to read defenses, he is that smart. And, if he is
    smart enough he might learn how to be good enough to start in 2 or 3
    years. We’ll see.

  • Steelsmoke

    They better bring in Jerod Evans as udfa. He has a boulder on his shoulder.

  • StrengthOfVictory

    If I’m not mistaken, I believe there were 11 or 12 DBs taken in the second round before the Steelers’ pick. Including Jones JUST before theirs. Nothing you can do but take an impact player at another position. Which they did.

  • JNick

    We need a TE for the future. Green is not that guy unfortunately. We need depth at safety. We literally have nothing behind our starting safeties.

  • Lee Foo Young

    Who?

  • Consistent

    Yeah I don’t wanna just look at their names in disappointment already,let’s see what guys can do here…teams that draft high always look like they’ve won the draft season but when football returns we’ll REALLY see who’s draft was more valuable.

    Bad teams/organizations ruin those great prospects more times than not anyway.

    If I were trying to justify all of our selections I probably could so I’m excited lol I can’t wait til they report to football in shorts so you know I’m excited!

    -Ben with another weapon,along with the return of Bryant and adding Justin Hunter

    -The possibility of seeing of seeing a Le’veon Bell/James Connor backfield

    -Drafted 2 more CBs after signing a CB and expecting the return of Golson

    -Greg Warren is a 13 year vet and none of Us are going to appreciate what he does until our Special Teams start making appearances on ‘Not Top Plays’,so if they say they need a LS I guess I’ll have to believe em lol

    -Landry DOES need competition since he’s no longer on his rookie contract,he’s a true backup at this point but he’s probably more of a Journeyman without the journey

    -Say whatever you want about TJ Watt being mainly just JJ Watt’s brother,if he can produce on winning Steeler teams,he’ll carve his own legend

  • Aaron Dickerson

    While I am very excited for the Watt pick, the rest of the draft left me pretty flat…I’m extremely disappointed that that we didn’t pick up Trey Hendrickson, I think he is going to be the Noah Spence of this draft.

  • WreckIess

    I expected some of that, but this draft was no where near as bad as it’s being made out to be.

  • barry foster

    I feel you but we couldn’t grab everything in one draft we needed outside pass rusher and corners was the main priority

  • Aj Gentile

    This was a pretty good draft. Got edge help and depth. Improved the WR. Got who I think will be a good slot Cb. For some reason they wanted a QB and they could have done a lot worst than Dobbs. Allen has great potential. And yeah a long snapper

  • barry foster

    Juju is more than a possession guy just not as fast others

  • Bryant Eng

    Bill Belichick drafted a LS in round 5 last year. I think it makes sense if you can marginally improve punt coverage, and have mistake free LS to holder/P snaps for the next 12-15 years.

  • Bryant Eng

    JuJu makes a lot of sense to me in round two. First, he is the youngest player in the draft I believe, and the Steelers love upside. Second, he has sure hands, long arms and battles for catches. In summary, I think the Steelers are trying to upgrade their red zone efficiency, and a sure handed big receiver like JuJu may bolster the team’s performance in this area.

  • Bryant Eng

    I guess the biggest question about the Steeler’s off season so far is: “Did the Steelers adequately address the secondary?” The added 1. Coty Sensabaugh, 2. Cameron Sutton, and 3. Brian Allen. They also return Senquez Golson, and anything he may add is a bonus. Assuming Artie Burns improves, there are a cumulative five potential players that can improve our secondary: New additions + Golson + Burns’ improvement. Will this be enough? We will see.

  • Michael

    If JuJu & Watt meet or surpass our expectations then this is an excellent draft. JuJu is branded as tenacious as Aquan Bolden comparable but a step faster.

    I’m hoping Watt gains 10 lbs of muscle and be branded Brady Killer in key 3rd downs.

  • mem359

    I don’t like the pick but logically it makes sense.

    I wish I would see more comments like that, instead of the over-exaggerated “they must be the biggest morons in the world to make the stupidest mistake ever” sort of reaction.

  • Michael

    Ppl, keep in mind, LS guy being picked 30th spot in sixth round is essentially a seven rounder – per Colbert’s thinking.

  • Robert E Lil

    I’m sure Brady is shaking
    As are all of the no name qbs who consistently have career days against Pittsburgh

  • “WC”

    To all you so called die hard Steelers fans, let me drop a little knowledge on you……

    Hate Colbert and Tomlin, check.

    Think the entire coaching staff and front office are idiots, check.

    Always gripe about players with questionable issues, complain about Bell and Bryant’s mistakes and then turn right around and talk about why the Steelers didn’t draft players with questionable issues, check.

    Want the Steelers to draft the best players available high in the draft, but do not seem to understand that getting those high draft choices means you have to lose a bunch of games. So what do you want? The team to be successful then complain, or the team to be competitive and still complain, check.

    Will swear up and down you know so much more than the professionals that get paid to do it, check.

    For whatever reason, just continue to ignore who they have on the roster now, check.

    There will be cuts most assuredly, and they may be some of the players you like and those players may take some time, but you will get pissed of just the same, check.

    Keep complaining about NE this and NE that. For your information they do have a bunch of other teams to play and they as well as NE must win those in games to meet in the AFC title game, check.

    Want to know the future before dealing with the here and now, check.

    Constant complaints about if we just had Bryant, things would have been different. Now Bryant is reinstated and now you worry about if he can stay clean and contribute, check.

    Complain and worry, worry and complain, check.

    Continue to call players and newly drafted players no good, check.

    Can you be a better owner, coaching staff, players etc., I highly doubt it, check.

    Going to rib me for these comments, check.

    Solutions…..There will be wins that you will celebrate. There will be losses that tear at your heart strings. Jubilation and heartaches. That’s the fate of all of us as fans.

    Destiny can be an interesting thing that you just can’t predict. Many have tried, however they are left asking the same questions hoping for a different answer. However there is no answer.

    Pray, live, experiences and hope for the best.

    Such is life and such is the fate of the players who do so much to play a game they love.

    So just be thankful, if you can somehow find it within yourselves to do so. That’s the epitome of a true Steelers fan!

    And lastly, check!!!!!

  • Rusted Out

    Exactly. The outcry about taking a WR in the 2nd is ridiculous. Another receiving threat behind AB was the single biggest problem on this offense last year. They clearly stated that they were not going to rely on Bryant (his availability, not ability), and quite simply, there are just a bunch of guys and question marks behind him. There was just no value in a CB at that pick, not to mention that they grabbed one in the 3rd and 5th. There may very well be good concern for some of these picks, and how the Steelers managed the draft, but it is absurd to pass judgement before any of these guys make out of camp. You can’t please everybody all of the time, but the sheer volume of negativity here is surprising.

  • Rusted Out

    Yes, they were going to go pass rusher in the first no matter what. We all knew that. Why is that a point of contention? Yes, they addressed their needs and went after specific players that we knew they were interested in. Why the chicken little routine? Do you think any of the guys they got are a huge waste? At first glance I don’t see any Dri Archer type picks in the first 5 rounds. I’d really like to know what your logic is here. You’re normally very level headed.

  • Rusted Out

    Excuse me, but what position on the Steelers roster is so weak that a rookie can come in and start day one? Slot Corner? Let them make it out of camp before you blast them atleast.

  • stan

    He could lead our team in special teams tackles and make every snap perfectly, and it would still be a stupid pick.

  • SteelerMike

    Ok, I see what you mean, both positions had some risk. I guess they felt JuJu offers some insurance in the pass game and had other positional needs deemed more important.

  • JesusChristTheGodMan .

    Doesn’t matter it still happens after nearly every draft

  • dany

    Agreed. The reality is, at least half of those 8 guys will fall shy of our current expectations, a few busts here and there, and even with all that it doesn’t mean anything today. Let the process play out

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    I hate stepping on ppl’s toes like that. Just want you to kinda see that.

  • Rusted Out

    Well at least you’re being fair now. Cmon, there was nobody behind AB last year at the end of the season, they stated they can’t rely on Bryant (availability, no ability), and not having another receiving threat was the single biggest problem on the offense last year. So why is WR in the 2nd such a conundrum for many fans here? They went pass rusher in the first, so it makes perfect sense to me. Ben needs weapons.

  • Rusted Out

    Chickilo, McCullers, Vince Williams, Antonio Brown, and Ryan Mundyare all notable 6th round selections in the last 10 years. Yes, the 6th is important. There is a potentially great player at any selection.

  • Darth Blount 47

    “None of us”… I’ll admit I was surprised by the Burns pick. But I mocked us a CB in Round 1. So I was all on board with the position. As far as Davis, I liked him quite a bit. And thought it was a good pick. But perhaps I was in the minority.

  • Rusted Out

    Wow! There is an extreme amount of negativity on this board, even for me. Personally, I’m pretty thrilled with most of the picks, and especially T.J. Watt. Not sure what else you can ask for picking 30th in the draft. The biggest complaint seems to be taking a WR in the 2nd as opposed to a corner. There were 11 DB’s taken in the second round ahead of the Steelers pick. I’m sure there wasn’t much value to be had in the 2nd at DB for them (not according to their board anyway).

    A viable number 2 receiving threat was by far the biggest problem on the offence by the end of last year. Nobody stepped up behind AB, and I would even go as far as to say that nobody even took pressure off of him. I can’t wait until Juju goes up and snatches a 50/50 ball away from a corner. Uknow… that thing that Sammie Coates can’t do. Not to mention that Martavis is only a puff away from being a distant memory. After going pass rusher in the first (which we all knew they would), why is drafting the biggest need on offence in the 2nd that big of a shock?

    I get the outrage on a long snapper, but cmon… They have been trying to replace Warren for years with no success and ended up having to pay him another contract. Like it or not LS in the 6th makes sense.

    For those of you that lack my gift of foresight, I will leave you with this. T.J. Watt is going to be a force to be reckoned with for many years to come.

  • stan

    Its just so surprising to see them waste that pick given all the success we’ve had with late round fliers. Sure they don’t always turn into Antonio Brown or even Vince Williams, but its disappointing that they wasted their shot.

    I was excited to see what Colbert would do with the first draft I can remember without any urgent needs. Not so much anymore.

  • Paul RK

    only 1 and a half of the names you mentioned are worth anything. Williams gets to prove himself as a viable starter this year.

  • Paul RK

    best way to ensure that the best LS in the draft is in your training camp is to draft him. You cannot count on signing his as a UDFA. Greg Warren can’t play forever (he’s 35)

  • Rusted Out

    You’re full of it. Mundy was a starter at times and netted us some compensation when he went on to start for the Giants as well. Every one of those guys played at least quality backup snaps so to say they’re not worth anything is a crock.

  • Paul RK

    EVERY team passed on Kelly for 7 rounds except for the Broncos, who passed on him 6 times…..

  • Buccos9

    Art Rooney said the Steelers need to improve their ability to get to the QB. We drafted one pass rusher in round one, then add a low-ranked potential edge rusher in the 7th round. By the end of round three, the Ravens had drafted Tyus Bowser and Tim Williams. Yes, Williams raised some flags, but he also has the potential to be a pass rushing force. Ozzie Newsome knows how important a good pass rush is to a defence. In comparison, Colbert blew this draft by not putting enough enough emphasis on getting pass rushers.

  • JT

    The Steelers don’t trade, try not to take high risk players, and generally let the draft come to them. That’s generally boring. Fans don’t like safe and boring. And especially in a year with record trades, fans get jealous. Then you throw in the NE game, which some will never get over, and fans were just teeming with rage.

  • Superdriller316

    Chalk up another year for Kevin Colbert and Co passing on players from Alabama. Since 2000 and counting.

  • John

    The plan apparently was always to add a WR by the end of the second if they could. The plan was to add secondary in the third unless there was a very special player available in the first. We took Watt instead. So I think the first three picks were quite solid. The issue with the draft IMHO is more Conner in the third, wasting a pick on Dobbs in the fourth, and the long snapper in the sixth. But I think you can see that the FO drafted here with a clear eye toward spots where a rookie can make the team and not just having a sixth round pick that will almost certainly be headed for the practice squad. I will say that playing the name game I tend to like the Bengals draft and the Packers draft among others. But the point about last year is valid as well. The FO did well there. Maybe here also. We will see.

  • MOVIEBRAINROT

    Initial reaction on this draft from me is this. Love Watt. Feel he was the best available and made a lot of sense. Round Two felt like it was going to be a receiver because of the few guys that I had mocked to them that were DBs. I am okay with Juju. I am not sold on Sutton in the 3rd. I may come around on this one, but as of right now, it seemed like a stretch to me. Fine with Conner and Dobbs. I am not as excited as everyone else about Conner, but I can see him being a decent number two back. Long snapper? Uh ok, I guess. Do not know anything about the DB in pick 6. I kind of like the idea of Keion Adams in the 7th. He can be an immediate contributor on special teams, and I would be happy if he is a back up in the future.

    Overall, we got our edge guy with a few backups. Not a terrible draft, but I am not falling over it either.

  • Justin Warrenfeltz

    I’m not saying Kelly will be a great QB. I’m saying spending a 6th or 7th is palatable over spending a 4th.

  • Steeler-Drew

    I didn’t like they predetermined the position to match the round. This drafted was setting up to draft a premium S or CB in the 1st round and there still would be good edge rushers available in the 2nd round. I like the Watt pick but it was imperative they land a good S or CB in the 2nd round to fill a critical need of upgrading the secondary. There was 3 good ones to pick from Moreau, Lewis, and Griffin and they passed on all three. Just like any draft I feel it’s critical they hit on the first two picks to fill their biggest needs. Hitting on a 3rd round pick to fill a need is a bonus. I’m sick the delusional mindset that this secondary is good enough to beat the Patriots or get to the Super Bowl. They got torched by the Patriots once again and the best they could come up with was signing Sensabaugh in FA and drafting a 3rd round slot corner who may or may not unseat Gay. I would feel different if they were not getting Bryant back and look at WR as a much bigger need. But I actually feel his is back for good since he knows this is last chance or his career would be over.

    Take a look at what Dallas and Green Bay who drafted right before us got. Dallas got an edge rusher in Charlton, and two premium CBs in Awuzie and Lewis in round 2 & 3. Green Bay a team know for taking the BPA drafted BPA in a position of need and landed a good CB in King and a quality S in J. Jones.

    Sorry Rusted I know you disagree but I think they blew their draft with the 2nd pick of WR. Wasting a pick on a QB and LS only adds fuel to the fire. Green is one hit away from never playing again they ignore the TE position when it was loaded with good ones. This draft set a record for most secondary players taken in the first 100 picks and the best we can come up with is a slot CB with more questionable skills than any 1st or 2nd round CB. Another record set with something like 40 trades and we are not involved in any of them even though they had an extra 3rd round pick. IMO what they did to address the secondary is going to set them back another year. And around this time next year for what will be going on 7 years we will still be taking about the need to upgrade the secondary and Rooney will probably make another one of his mandates that it needs addressed. I hope I’m wrong and will eat crow if I do but that’s just the way I see it.

  • Don

    I know what you mean, but those late round successes weren’t random throws on a dartboard. They were players the FO liked for one reason or another. Apparently there weren’t any players they liked better than filling a need at LS.

  • Jaybird

    I’m liking the JUJU pick more and more . I think he’s going to be killer in the slot. I think he negated the need for a TE . He’ll be working the middle of the field for a long time hopefully .

  • Steeler-Drew

    I agree that the plan was to draft a WR in the 2nd round I just totally disagree with that line of thinking once they got Bryant back. It became less of a need IMO but obviously they didn’t see it that way.

  • Jaybird

    Good post Rusted. The one pick that bothers me a little was the 4th. I would have loved to see Kittle or Butt wearing the Black and Gold . I really was starting to like Kittle. Good blocker with much more to offer in the passing game than David Johnson. I’m not a fan of carrying TWO guys who are mainly blockers – Johnson and Nix. I’d love to replace Johnson, especially since he doesn’t give much in the way is ST.
    But JUJU is going to be a great pick. I think my next jersey will be a JUJU Jersey!

  • James Rogers

    Sometimes a diamond in the rough is found in round 6. AB comes to mind.

    A LS can be found after the draft, among the UDFA. Literally dozens of LS come out of college every year. Every team has one and how many bad snaps are there league-wide each season? Very few. It’s silly to draft one IMO.

  • Don

    I would think that they could sign the LS as an UDFA. But it’s a late 6th rd pick, not quite a “K in the 2nd rd” situation.

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Yeah, I don’t know, I’m just very “meh” about it. I get the picks individually (my biggest question was picking Conner in the third. I felt like we could have gotten a backup rb somewhere else and used that pick for something harder to find). I like the Watt pick, and I like the Dobbs pick. JuJu made sense, even if there might have been a bigger need. I don’t mind the ls pick, to be honest. The fact is, most 6th rounders don’t make the roster. If you have an area of need, even if it’s a specialty position, and you’re pretty sure he’s going to start for the next 15 years, I don’t really mind spending a 6th rounder on him. Maybe you could argue he’d be around in the 7th, or as an UDFA, but I’m fine with it.

    My biggest issue is I still feel like the secondary is put together with scotch tape, and we’re just hoping it doesn’t break. Hopefully Burns and Davis improve, and I like Cockrell, but it would have been nice to get one more blue-chipper back there.

  • Derick L Young

    Everybody complaining could of drafted better, in their mind. In Mike and Kevin we trust. Some fans are getting spoiled.

  • John

    They don’t trust him at all. They love the talent but are prepared for him to be Josh Gordon. Their prior replacement for him was Coates. That is a question mark now. And I truly don’t think they see many roster spots available. JuJu should be a good red zone guy also. A lot of other teams were also all over the secondary and TE guys way early.

  • John

    Maybe we will sign Barnidge now that Cleveland cut him.

  • WreckIess

    True. I forgot A lot of fans thought we needed this huge overhaul and with a bunch of splashes in free agency and the draft.

    I thought this draft was pretty easy to understand though. There are definitely some picks to disagree with, but it really was pretty good.

  • John

    I think Sutton was a good pick. He is a corner who can actually cover now. Not one of these athletes types that needs three years to develop and even then will only be a zone corner. If Golson is healthy, we have two slot guys that can cover. HIll may wind up being something also. A lot of the other guys mentioned on this site as possibles were overdrafted versus the round they were expectsd here.

  • JT

    And if TJ splashes the way they think he can, no one will remember missing out on George Kittle or Jake Butt.

  • John

    Moreau is hurt and there is no guarantee he can play. Who knows if missing out in Jackson means anything. Lawson is the Billings of this year’s draft. Big hype and he falls way below the hype because none of the NFL teams seems to like him that much. We already have speed WRs so they weren’t looking for a specific type in JuJu. You can’t throw Cannon in as a sub. They obviously wanted a real RB not a scat back or their down guy. Hence they took Conner, a guy they know who came from a real offense, instead of one of these spread offense guys or mere speed guys. Myrick might be ok but they obvioualy liked the guys they took better.

  • John

    Kelly has some talent I think. He cannot stay healthy though which is a problem on its own. Broken wrist now I believe. He also has off the field issues. So he is perhaps a semi-talented injured punk. Do we need him?

  • renoir

    I do believe getting a long snapper to last us a decade or more is worth a 6th round pick which is a crap shoot at that point in the draft and he was a really well regarded player at the position…

  • John

    I think everyone is missing the differences between players. They clearly liked Watt and he played a standing up LB-type role. He is not someone that was a hand on the ground DE that needs to re-invent himself over the next two years. They wanted guys that are more play ready as they think they have a shot this year. So you choose differently and don’t want RIvers or guys like him. You also don’t want developmental WRs that may help in year three.

  • John

    Agreed. I really think the team felt their big needs were filled in Rounds 1-3. They took the safe choice in Conner as a backup RB with size and power. After that, it was let’s fill the other couple spots that may never free on the roster backup QB and LS. Then in case of injuries etc., they double up on corner and OLB with two picks they likely consider developmental guys.

  • Rusted Out

    You make some very good points, but I think you are expecting the Steelers to do things that they just don’t do. They are very conservative in trading up or down and rarely ever trade in the first. They are very mild players in free agency and this off season they were downright lethargic. Of course I want them to make more moves and bring in a star player once in a while, but that is not their M.O. We can scream until we’re blue in the face, but as long as Colbert is running the show those things will not change. Expecting them to do so is just going to raise your blood pressure.

    As far as the QB… I hate the pick. I don’t like the guy as a player, and I don’t see him being anything more than a future backup at best. I’ve said all along that if they are not gunning for a potential Ben replacement, then use the pick on another position. But again, it is typical to how they operate.

    The long snapper is just odd to me. I realized there was a need, I just wonder how hard it is to bring in an UDFA that would pan out instead of using a pick. Admittedly, I’ve never noticed a LS getting drafted before. I do know that they were unable to bring in a guy in free agency to beat out Warren, hence the pick.

    As far as your evaluations go, they could be spot on, or you could be 180 degrees out. We just won’t know until preseason at minimum and some may take 3 years to develop. I would suggest a wait and see approach before you bash the guys.

  • barry foster

    Pitch fork season !!!

  • Rusted Out

    I get that, and the Steelers have found some great value in the 6th, but if this guy pans out as Warren’s replacement, then it’s a great pick. Maybe he can contribute on special teams? His measurables are quite good. Other than that, I can’t really defend the pick.

  • Steeler-Drew

    The Steelers could have sat on their hands and still drafted a good CB. Moreau had the injury but is a good man CB probably worth the wait. He may miss the first six games. Griffin is another good physical man CB with upside. And Lewis would have been a better slot option than Sutton. Their mind was made up regardless of who was available and I think that’s a ridiculous mindset to have. Tomlin said in offseason they needed to improve their man coverage and they passed on two good ones.

    You have clamored before yourself about improving the secondary and they were not doing enough during Ben’s closing window. IMO they took baby steps with no such of urgency. They should treat every year like this may be Ben’s last. With the approach they made this offseason to improve the defense you would never know Ben has 3 years at most left to play.

    Of course I’m going to give what they did a chance as is all true Steeler fans whether we like the draft or not. But I will sayI have been calling for them to continue to upgrade the secondary for six years now and I have not been wrong yet.

  • barry foster

    And 3 obi’s

  • 2winz

    Colbert had a legit case for drafting the LS

  • barry foster

    Watch the rose bowl game vs penn state on draftbreakdown he balled out

  • barry foster

    Yes making teams pay for triple teaming ab

  • Jimbo

    Defense lost to Brady.. RB and QB and LS.. Just not what I thought they would address.

  • 2winz

    maybe let them have a chance to show what they could do before you write them off?

  • barry foster

    The comparison to anquan boldin is off anquan ran a 4.7 I get the physical part but juju can’t still beat teams deep

  • barry foster

    Check 1,2

  • barry foster

    Just watch josh dobbs tape and he wasn’t that bad he was on a bad team receivers dropping a lot of passes he’s a upgrade over Landry so let’s just hope he develop

  • 2winz

    we needed a wide receiver just as much as we needed a corner. they were not going to take a cb just to take a cb, especially when they clearly had a receiver ranked higher. im honestly glad none of you people complaining are running the organization. we would not have players like shazier, artie burns, sean davis or hargrave if any of you were the ones drafting.

  • barry foster

    Hopefully juju lights it up this preseason he’s getting plenty of time he’s a 2nd rd pick

  • Steeler-Drew

    And I’m certainly glad you are not running it if you think they needed a WR more than a CB. Just because they made the decision doesn’t mean it was right or gospel. We will see now won’t we. Will Smith elevate this offense to help outscore opponents or will the defense and average secondary lead to their demise if they don’t win it all. And by the way I was on board with all 3 picks last year. Especially upgrading the secondary in rounds 1 & 2.

  • 2winz

    offense didnt have a great game vs pats either. just look at it as the defense was addressed, 2 db, 2 olb, and at the same time we addressed a few offensive positions that needed to be addressed during draft. you an’t get everybody you want in the drat unfortunatey so you have to get as many pieces as you can and Steelers did a great job

  • 2winz

    Im not trying to run the steelers organization, i trust in the FO. at least im open minded about it which is all im saying for ppl to be. I did not say they needed a wide receiver MORE than a corner. I said they needed it AS MUCH. I dont know how you can argue against that. we have nobody reliable after AB. yes, bryant is back but what if he gets injured? back to double coverage on AB and nobody else to scare defenses. Not only that but we have 1 solid wr, and a bunch of unknowns after that. where as we have at least 2 solid cb and questions after that. fact is that when it came to pick in the 2nd round, the BPA in their eyes was a wr that ppl are comparing to boldin or hines ward. im sure nobody would mind that at all! im not saying they were right or wrong but my goodness, to bicker and complain before they have a chance to show anything is dumb. I would think after last year, people would have learned not to judge so quickly. this is not the browns organization, this is a team that has done very well since 2000

  • Rusted Out

    Also to address your first point… Best player available is a misnomer. They do not have that luxury, and haven’t for years. The pass rush is by far the biggest glaring hole on this team. Although there may have been a higher ranked Safety or Corner there, the Steelers must find their next dominant pass rusher, and I believe they have. This team can not afford to miss on another OLB so to minimize that risk, they were absolutely going to get one in the first. It was very much like last year in that regard. They were pigeon holed and ordered by the brass to fix the secondary. Even though there were quite a few DB’s taken, it was going to be addressed in the first round. What I am saying is that they are forced to deviate from BPA to address a need, and Corner and Safety were at least partially filled last year. Fingers crossed on the DB’s they picked up this year. I’m hoping one of them can supplant Gay.

  • Rusted Out

    Precisely. We may want them to trade up and bring in a big name free agent, but they almost never do, and expecting them to change is an exercise in futility.

  • Steeler-Drew

    I have nothing against the player who I didn’t give an evaluation on. It’s the position I have a problem with like many others who don’t like the pick. Ju Ju by all accounts will probably turn out to be a very good player for us. But as we found last year the offense is simply not going to outscore their opponents every game. How soon we forget how Brady torched this secondary. For me it’s fresh in mind and for others it’s a distant memory. This draft was loaded with CB’s and S’s and we selected the 24th off of the board in the 3rd round. You are just not going to get the quality you need for instant upgrade with the 23 going off of the board. They had 3 good options to pick from in Moreau, Griffin, and Lewis. One could play the slot as a better option than what they got and two were good man corners which reported by Tomlin they wanted to upgrade to beat the Patriots. I’m sure they could have could have come away with a good WR in the third round. I think too many have the mindset Bryant is going to fail another test, Coates won’t bounce back, and forget we even signed another deep threat in Hunter. Not to mention they already have a good slot option in Rogers. Bryant knows if he fails another test his career is over. I’m betting on that he doesn’t. We will just have to agree to disagree on this one.

  • 2winz

    Trust me I did not forget about the defense that game. My brother is a pats fan, so I did not forget. The offense can keep up with pats if AB has help on the other side to prevent double teams. I do believe Bryant will be that guy again, i dont think he will fail a drug test again based on his videos but after a year off, what if he gets injured? then back to square one. thats why I said, aside from AB everyone is a question mark. you have to help Ben out and I dont have trust in coates because he short arms catches and drops too many passes. yes eli is nice but hes not good enough to scare teams and teams could simply put their best cb on him and double AB. the defense on the other hand doesnt need a complete overhaul, they just need another olb which they addressed, they double dipped at that position and we went out and got 3 dbs from FA and the draft. If Burns and Sean davis progress, we are already better. we will have Burns, Cockrell which is no revis but he is solid, and all we need is a slot corner and depth. we will have golson along with plenty of guys fighting for that spot so there will be good competition. with heyward coming back and hargrave taking a step forward, we should be better than last year. Brady had all day to throw and idc who is cb, the receivers will eventually get open when brady is kept clean.

  • Matt

    It’s a 6th round pick. In that round you’re looking for guys who can contribute on special teams and/or long term projects. This pick fits a need on special teams.

    I get that the Steelers managed to grab Antonio Brown in the 6th and there have been some other hugely successful players in the NFL taken in that round, but generally speaking, these days a 6th round pick is a guy who is lucky to make the roster. And if they make the roster, they generally do so as a special teams player. It’s not that crazy of a pick. This is a player who actually has a really good chance of making the final roster.

  • Matt

    I hated the QB pick in the 4th. They paid Landry to make sure they had their backup. I see ILB as an area where the team needed to improve. Assuming Williams can step in and play as well as Timmons (and I don’t think that’s the case, or the Steelers wouldn’t have tried to get Timmons to come back or chased Hightower), Shazier has yet to play all 16 games. He very well may have to deal with injury again this year. When that happens who do we have? A bunch of guys who we’d all be more comfortable with as special teams players. I think Walker in the 4th would have offered more value than a QB.

    I also would have liked to see a second edge guy or Wormley with the Steelers 2nd round pick. But I can get the reasons for that pick.

  • Jacob

    One thing couch GM’s can’t do is interview the players. This is a major part of player evaluation. So it may be that one’s favorite player simply did not possess the mentality needed to be a Steeler.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Pray, live, experiences, and hope for the best. I like that!

  • Luke Edgerley

    I think the draft was terrible but I do trust in colbert and tomlin they have earned the benefit of the doubt , would have much rather had godwin over juju , douglas over sutton , perine over conner ( just barely) love the conner pick though and no qb at all hodges or jake butt , kittle or leggett would seemed to have made more sense . elijah lee or ejuan price rather than a long snapper would have been nice. I have learned to give them a chance though as more than one guy that didn’t appear to be a good choice has worked out well

  • SouthernSteel

    Agreed…after watching highlights of all these players…it looks like we got a bunch of high character team leader ballers!!

  • Darth Blount 47

    Draft classes for teams that I really liked…
    Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Indy, LA Chargers, New Orleans, Philly, Washington.

    Draft classes that were not hot…. but not cold:
    Arizona, Atlanta, Buffalo, Carolina, Dallas, Denver, Green Bay, LA Rams, Minnesota, NY Jets, Oakland, S.F., Tampa Bay, Tennessee.

    Draft classes that I just didn’t understand or care for very much:
    Chicago, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, Kansas City, Miami, New England, NY Giants, Pittsburgh, Seattle,

  • FATCAT716

    They have said all along they don’t trust Bryant. How severe is Coates hands? If Bryant relapse we would be screaming why not get a receiver in the draft. I think we are fine at TE with or without Green. JuJu will offset the absents of Green

  • FATCAT716

    Don’t forget Bell

  • Sam Clonch

    Just unfortunate how that second round turned out. Awuzie and Jones coming off the board back to back in front of us? Craaaaap. I’m pretty sure if either had been there we would have snapped them up, and then no one would be sweating about the 3 later picks. Did a good job of letting the draft come to them. I’m happy with it, but I would have been thrilled if they sent a 4th rounder to KC to move ahead of Dallas to get Awuzie.

  • Marcel Chris Chauvet

    Darth I’ve been waiting to hear your thoughts on the draft. And I have two questions for you:

    #1) How did Ozzie Newsome get a hold of your draft notes?

    #2) Is there a leak somewhere in your organization?

  • Sam Clonch

    Mmm, not going to act like a LS expert, but I do know that the rules in college are different. LS have more protection, and therefore tend to be smaller than they need to be in the NFL. The kid we got is prototypical size for the NFL.

    Also have heard if you’re drafting a specialty guy, you normally would do it in the 7th. As we were sitting at #30 in the 7th, there’s 29 other teams that are potentially looking to burn their last pick. (Teams decimating the DB depth before the Steelers in the 2nd round comes to mind.) A #30 in the 6th is almost no difference than a 7th round value. Plus they got a guy in the 7th who had a 5-6 round value. So it’s basically a wash value wise.

    Plus you really don’t need (and can’t expect) an AB type player every 6th round. If you can get a guy you KNOW will be able to contribute, that’s a pretty good return on investment for the 213th overall pick. Most don’t even stick on the team.

  • Sam Clonch

    Was thinking of a Conner jersey.

  • Darth Blount 47

    I blame Russia.

  • Tom McConnell

    I guess you don’t care to read the analysis that those on their board were gone already. They also need to consider the cap that you surely don’t. Trading up was not an option.

  • MattHat121

    Just because they ARE that way doesn’t mean they SHOULD be that way.

  • MattHat121

    I expect them to maximize their opportunities. Being passive in both free agency and the draft minimizes the opportunities to get better talent.

  • Tom McConnell

    You should sign up to replace Colbert.
    You have no idea what they tried and what they didn’t. They addressed every need. Maybe not who you or I wanted, but every need. You can disagree, but everything picked was one my Mock, except the LS. I will agree that was a surprise, but not entirely insane. How many years has Warren been here.

  • MattHat121

    Right on. Good CBs that filled a need were available at end of Round 2.

  • Matt

    Not sure where all the questions are here. Forget the depth of the draft, we needed to improve depth and also avoid ENORMOUS contracts coming in the near future. Shazier, tuitt, heyward, potentially dupree are all going to need extensions. Thats just on defense. All the guys we drafted have clean records, well spoken, classy guys who add grit and potentially even leadership. I think they nailed it in this draft. Ton of solid role players and continue to develop their core guys now.

  • steelersfan

    Watching mike and mike where Adam schefter just said it would be a good move for Steelers to sign Cutler. How does this idiot still have a job?

  • Roberto Vaquero Bazán

    That is good to know, Thanks for The thoughts, here in México I can’t follow Colleg Football, so I don’t know nothing about prospects, just The TJ Watt pick because of his brother JJ Watt that sounds huge to me!

  • Roberto Vaquero Bazán

    Our great offense did much either against The Pats!

  • ATL96STEELER

    Late to the party, but my take here.

    I’m going to fall in line with most that do not like this draft very much.

    I’m okay with Watt, Sutton, as well as where they were picked.

    Juju…I get it. On top of the uncertainty of Bryant staying eligible to play, he’s in his 4th season, maybe they lock up the 5th yr option, maybe they don’t and nobody else has really stepped up to command WR2. But not with 62…imo Colbert needed to dbl down on OLB or get a big CB there….Cbs flew off the board ahead of them in round 3.

    Conner…great story, but too early imo

    Dobbs…I’m a bigger Dobbs guy than most, but I think they could’ve waited another round or two for essentially a QB3 prospect.

    Allen and Adams…the ranks are so thin at those positions that you can be certain they will make the 53, but it’s asking a lot.

    I’m not going to beat a dead horse on Holba, but it’s clear they didn’t really need 8 picks…imo should’ve used one or two to navigate the board for higher quality options on the positions they had needs.

  • ATL96STEELER

    “Backup QB could’ve been taken later. 4th round had good players….WR taken later than second round given more dire needs at CB/cover LB.”

    Best points you made.

    Sutton was not the best CB in this class or even close, but where they took him, imo he was the best CB on the board…if Golson slips one more time, I think Sutton takes the job from Gay.

    IMO the bigger issue was not getting a big CB earlier that could push Cockrell or upgrade the other outside spot. Or, a big S to help improve 3rd pass DEF, Or dbl dip at OLB earlier.

    TE…this should have been their 4th round pick…bottom 4 top of 5 is the same thing at that point in the draft…all the options went top of 5.

    IMO…all this is mute if the guys they chose turn out the be good players, but it was not a sexy draft by any means.

  • MattHat121

    Yeah, I did the redraft exercise and took Obi or Budda first overall to deal with 3rd down pass defense (or, in Obi’s case, play him anywhere). Both Jake Butt and George Kittle could’ve been had in 4th. I was able to take a WR in 3rd and later in round 5.

  • Sam Clonch

    Bryant get a 5th year option? Wha? He was a 4th rounder. You only get 5th round options on 1st round picks.

  • Sam Clonch

    Right? OBVIOUSLY Kapernick would be the better choice!!!

  • Sam Clonch

    Heyward is under contract already for the next 4 years. Tuitt probably gets done during camp sometime, as does Bell. Shazier will be done next year. Dupree the year after that.

    Big question after this year will be if either Coates or Bryant are extended. They generally do extensions for guys they want to keep when they have 1 year left.

    Big contracts are part of the game, CBA mandating you must spend money ensured that. It’s always best to have to give those contract to guys you drafted though, at least you get 3-4 cheap years out of them.

  • ATL96STEELER

    My 1st rd pool was Chris Harris, Takk, TJ, Njoku, Jarrad Davis, Reddick as notables so I would’ve taken TJ in that spot. My general thoughts on him…he may never be a great pass rusher (6-8 per season top end) but he’s athletic enough to move inside and be an effective Buck if they land a stud outside.

    62…Kevin King, Budda, Marcus Maye, Quincy Wilson, Jordan Willis…I would’ve taken any of them over Juju.

    94…as I mentioned I like Sutton, he’s a solid slot guy imo.

    105…this probably where I go WR, Mack Hollins, Josh Reynolds were both on the board.

  • MattHat121

    Given who was available at the time, either of these would be preferable to their actual draft class:

    1. Budda Baker (S)
    2. Derek Rivers (DE/OLB)
    3. Josh Reynolds (WR)
    3. Jamaal Williams (RB)
    4. Jake Butt / George Kittle (TE)
    5. Robert Davis (WR)
    6. Jalen Myrick (CB)
    7. Keion Adams (OLB/DE)

    Or…

    1. Obi Melinfonwu (S)
    2. Fabian Moreau (CB)
    3. Carl Lawson (DE/OLB)
    3. Jamaal Williams (RB)
    4. Blair Brown (LB)
    5. Robert Davis (WR)
    6. Jalen Myrick (CB)
    7. Keion Adams (OLB/DE)

    Or some combination of both. The goods were there to be had.

  • Nolrog

    Bill Belichick was also coming off a Super Bowl victory the year before. His situation is completely different than ours.

  • ATL96STEELER

    A combination for certain…I like Obi, maybe he’s the cover guy for VW on 3rd down, but not as physical as you want for the body he has. Strange but everybody I’ve talked to on the Steeler draft like this Adams kid.

  • Justin Warrenfeltz

    The Bryant contract extension discussion will be an interesting one. Assuming he comes back and plays the whole year this year and does well, he deserves big money on a talent basis. But I’d be terrified of signing a guy to a big-time contract who is one joint away from permanent banishment.

  • 2winz

    not any that were valued above Smith.

  • 2winz

    i didnt forget bell, hes a rb lol sure we can motion him out to the slot but thats not his actual position

  • “WC”

    Thank you sir!

  • Steelsmoke

    Everyone gonna sing a different tune when the first four pics start/role play at the same speed or faster than last year’s first three pics.

  • Applebite

    Could someone see if Steelers fans can get royalty fees for scouting the Bengals draft prospects? ‘Highly ironic’, doesn’t even begin to explain their picks over the last few years…

  • Wayne’O

    GIL BRANDT, Draft Guru and legend had 5 of our drafted players listed as follows. 1st round: TJ WATT #(60) 2ed round: JuJu #(34) 3rd round: SUTTON #(85) 3rd round: JAMES CONNER #(91) 4th round: JOSH DOBBS #(83)

    5 of the Steelers drafted players were listed in Gil Brandts top 100.

  • Rusted Out

    Did you miss the part where I said that I hate how passive they are? I certainly do not advocate for how lethargic they are in free agency and draft moves. It drive me up a wall that they never went out and paid for a top corner or pass rusher 3-4 years ago. There was certainly a need for it. My point is simply that they almost never do those types of things, so expecting them to do so is 100% on you and your expectations.

  • Beaver Falls Hosiery

    Bengals scouting department has a premium Steelers Depot subscription.

  • Rusted Out

    I’ve clamored many times, and for many years for them to fix the secondary, and If they didn’t address the secondary with the first and second pick last year with players that are showing strong development and potential, then I would agree with you here. They went OLB in the first which was by far the biggest need on this team, and they did address the secondary with a 3rd and a 5th round pick this year. I also disagree that there was any value at DB with the 62nd pick. The fact of the matter is that this is how they operate, they are abysmal in free agency, and they build through the draft, and expecting them to wheel and deal like New England is setting yourself up for disappointment.