Steelers GM Kevin Colbert: ‘Josh Dobbs Checks Off All The Boxes’

The Pittsburgh Steelers decided to draft quarterback Joshua Dobbs in the fourth-round of the 2017 NFL Draft and since then, a lot of people are wondering what the plan is with him and especially whether or not he can potentially become the team’s franchise signal-caller once starter Ben Roethlisberger decides to retire.

During a Tuesday interview on 93.7 The Fan, Steelers general manager Kevin Colbert was asked to explain his thinking when it came to picking Dobbs and if he had to walk the line between deciding to select a different player who could potentially help the team win now as opposed to quarterback who might not develop into anything more than a career backup.

“When you have a Hall of Fame quarterback like we’re fortunate enough to have, you’re probably never going to be bad enough to be picking another franchise quarterback. That’s just the reality of it,” Colbert started. “So, you have to judge. We want to win in 2017, that’s first and foremost, but you also want to secure the most important position in our game.

“So, how do you do that and balance it out? Well, taking a guy one, two and three, again, we’re not going to picking that high, at least we hope we’re not. So, you look down the road and you say, ‘Ok, who could possibly develop beyond what they are at this point?’ And when you look at a kid like Josh Dobbs, or look at any college quarterback coming out of today’s spread offenses, you don’t see a finished product because they’re not doing what they’re going to be asked to do at this level.”

Colbert went on to define what the Steelers saw out of Dobbs during their evaluations and what ultimately led to the decision to draft him.

“So, you make a judgement on do they have the skill set, the size, the arm, the athleticism to do what you’re going to want to do,” Colbert explained. “Do they have the intellect to learn NFL offenses and then have they produced within their offenses in big games? And really, in all three of those categories, Josh Dobbs checks off all the boxes. So, we know there’s upside there, we know that it is a work in progress.”

Last year the Dallas Cowboys seemingly struck gold when they drafted quarterback Dak Prescott in the fourth-round and Colbert addressed that topic in relation to Dobbs and his potential.

“I think what Dak Prescott did was unusual to step in from a spread offense and be as successful as he was last year,” Colbert said. “And we’re not saying Josh Dobbs can do that, but we are saying that we’re very confident that in time, he can develop and maybe that time coincides with a point in time where we need a guy. And we all hope that’s more years down the road than just one, but we have to be prepared in the event that it isn’t.”

So, does that mean Colbert thinks that Dobbs can become a franchise quarterback for the Steelers down the road?

“I do think he has the opportunity, or he certainly has the talent and the intellect and having done won big games to develop further and where that goes, who knows,” Colbert said.

There was quite a bit major media speculation that the Steelers are unhappy with the development of current backup quarterback Landry Jones after they selected Dobbs in the fourth-round despite the fact they signed him to a two-year contract extension just after the start of the new league year in March. Because of that, Colbert was asked Tuesday to comment on that particular topic.

“No, absolutely no frustration with where Landry is,” Colbert said. “I mean, Landry’s kind of done what we’ve just talked about. He progressed from a spread offense to the point where we’re very comfortable with him as our No. 2 guy. He just recently signed an extension and it’s not an infinite extension, so where he is at that end of his contract, we don’t know. And again, maybe that will coincide with when Ben [Roethlisberger] decides to retire. Then, if we don’t have another guy in the mix, boy, we’re done.

Colbert went on to once again talk about the importance of the Steelers having a possible succession plan in place should Roethlisberger ultimately decide to retire before his current contract expires.

“If you don’t have a succession plan at that position, boy, your franchise can suffer,” Colbert said. “As I stated before, the continual succession plan that you saw when San Francisco, when they went from [Joe] Montana to Steve Young and in Green Bay when they went from Favre to Aaron Rodgers, that’s how great franchises remain great, when you can remain competent at that position.”

  • Jacob

    I can appreciate his reasoning, and in my mind Dobbs does have the smarts, the physical tools, and the “it” factor in big games to be a “potential” franchise QB.

    If he can improve his accuracy and start making NFL caliber throws on certain route trees, the Black and Gold may have struck Gold. So, time will tell. But until then, let’s just enjoy the franchise QB already on the roster.

  • PaeperCup

    I’m done grumbling, he’s a Steeler now, so nothing but support.

    The Dak comparisons are probably a good reason why they drafted him. They liked Dak last year, but passed on him, or missed him…but his performance shows they were on to something. So why not go after the guy that reminds you most of him.

    I just hope he doesn’t dethrone our starter like Dak did in Dallas. Not yet at least.

  • StillersInThe6

    The more I’ve researched this pick, and thought about the situation, and now even hearing Colbert’s reasoning, the more I love it. Granted I’ve never seen the kid play other than highlights. But I think Colbert and co. are bang on – now is the time to take some gambles on finding your next QB. We’re not yet at a position where we need to grab someone in the 1st, we have far more pressing needs. But throwing out a 4th round lotto ticket on a guy with a ton of upside (the guy seems to check a lot of boxes on paper) that can grow under Ben with no pressure, I think it’s a great move. Diversifying our exposure to the QB position – but not sacrificing more pressing (higher round) needs, yet.

  • StrengthOfVictory

    This is why I was behind the pick. Personally, I don’t want the Steelers scrambling to trade into the top five picks in a few years, scratching and clawing with the likes of the Browns, spending way too much on a guy they HOPE can be the future.

    Dobbs is a project (as we know) with some exciting potential. Is he the next guy? Who knows. But what’s wrong with the Steelers doing everything they can to develop him now…especially while Ben is around? If it costs them a fourth rounder to try and be wrong, who cares? Do you remember how much it cost the Redskins to try and be wrong in 2012? THAT is what fans don’t want.

  • steelburg

    I have been doing mad homework on Dobbs the last few days and he has a chance to be more than a back up IMO. He is better then I original thought he was. He had some bad receivers drop a ton of balls on him in some of those games I watched. He doesn’t get rattled in the pocket like Landry Jones does, which is his biggest weakness if you ask me. But Dobbs isn’t as polished as Dak was when he came out last year. Right now I would consider him a poor man’s Dak. He needs to add weight, but I think by the end of the preseason he will impress some people. The biggest thing I look for outside of the obvious physical tools needed to play the position is poise and Dobbs definitely has that trait IMO based of some of the games I watched. So I’m 100 percent on board with the pick. I would advise others who haven’t really studied Dobbs to do what I did and do your own personal homework on him I think you will find that he is a lot better than you thought just like me.

  • Kevin Artis

    I’m with you. And like he said, I hope we are not ever in the position of drafting in the top 5 looking for a potential QB.

  • tcirish53@gmail.com

    I hope Dobbs does well. I truly do.

    I have to laugh, though, at all the people bemoaning our SIXTH rd pick of a LS when we picked Dobbs in the FOURTH rd!

    So a guy whose effort could torpedo every XP, FG, and punt we take is not valuable enough to be drafted, but a guy who will not see the field for three years is?

    And I disagree with Colberts logic that this is the ONLY way to get your next starting QB.

    The two examples of successful transitions from one QB to another ALWAYS mentioned are Montana to Young, and Favre to Rogers. Rogers was a first round pick and Young was a first round pick in the supplemental draft (when the old USFL folded).

    THATS the price that almost always must be paid to get your next franchise QB, Dak being the outlier (along with that guy in NE!!).

    So I would have preferred that we bite the bullet, talk to Ben to see where he’s at, and draft the guy two years before Ben retires. His contract expires in three years, so NEXT year we should have done this – and next year just so happens to be a bumper crop for QBs, per the experts.

    Prove me wrong, Dobbs and Colbert!!

  • Matt Manzo

    I agree! His throws from the pocket looked better than I was expecting.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Steve Young was selected as the 1st overall pick of the ’84 supplemental draft. Aaron Rodgers was a 1st round draft pick, who most people had going much higher than he ultimately did. C’mon now… don’t pee down my back and tell me it is raining.

    Sick and tired of hearing that the only way to have a “proper succession plan in place” is to draft a guy a year or two or 7, before they take over. It’s as if many people don’t even understand or comprehend, that guys can be signed during Free Agency, or guys can be TRADED for. It isn’t.. “draft or bust.”

    Sure, I get the cost-benefit ratio of doing it through the draft. And when it works, it’s a beautiful thing. But stop with the ridiculous narrative of: “It’s the ONLY way.” I’ve heard it from so many people now, that I want to tear my hair out. And point of fact…. STEVE YOUNG WAS TRADED TO SAN FRANCISCO. So know that. It CAN be done. And IT can work out beautifully.

    We should be having our SINGULAR focus, not on what is going to be happening 1 or 2 or even 5 years from now. But what in the world can we do to win a freakin’ Super Bowl with Big Ben Roethlisberger, a franchise – Hall of Fame QB – who is ALREADY HERE – and deserves to have the best possible team around him, in order to get the job done?! I get it, playing GM is hard. You have a lot of balls to juggle, and you DO have to keep an eye towards the future. I get it. But using a 4th round pick, on a developmental, project, 3rd string QB, who I’d bet dollars to donuts, WILL NOT be either succeeding Ben, or playing much with both Ben and Landry in front of him, doesn’t strike me as wise, prudent, or even necessary.

    So God help me, I hope we have enough to get it done this year. I don’t want us to let Dan Rooney down. And nor do I want to look back on this wonderfully Defensive-laden draft from ’17, wondering what might have been, had we not used our even numbered picks, on guys who are superfluous, 3rd stringers, or in danger of getting beat out by 35 year old stalwarts.

  • Steel City Slim

    Maybe people would be more optimistic about him if he were related to JJ Watt πŸ˜‚

  • Darth Blount 47

    You beat me to the Young/Rodgers comment. Lol. We were typing at the same time apparently. Feeling similar sort of thoughts/emotions. And I wholeheartedly agree with your comment. If we are gonna find the heir through the draft, let it be real skin in the game, and let it be when we need to make it. And next year looks like a beaut, if it has to come then. Otherwise, we CAN always look to other avenues, which is how SF got Young.

  • Matt Correll

    I think your point of them doing this “especially while Ben is around” is the key point here. Why not wait until Ben is gone? Because we have a Hall of Fame QB who can help coach up this guy. Dobbs seems to be one of the most humble and teachable guys you are going to come across too, and so he will be a sponge while Ben is still the guy. Even if you get one of the top guys in the draft (next year, or 3 years from now) getting thrown into the starting role day one is not what is best for the team or the QBs development. I think Webb, Dobbs and Mahommes all have the chance to be good starters in the league because they were drafted by teams that will allow them to develop and be mentored by older QBs– in the case of Webb and Dobbs, they get to have Super Bowl winning mentors.

    I think taking a chance of a high upside guy now, while Ben is here, makes a ton of sense. I’m rooting for Dobbs!

  • Joey

    I have a feeling Dobbs is our stop gap QB.. Maddox-esque.

  • Terrible Towlie

    if you need to improve your accuracy by the time you’re a pro….you’re in trouble…its one of the biggest requirements for the position

  • barry foster

    His receivers had hands like Sammie Coates it was his team that was trash

  • ATL96STEELER

    If there’s one CFB program I see more than any other it would be the Vols and maybe GA.

    Most people know by now this is not your typical QB…kid has engineer brain type talent…grew up in GA and went to a private school here in the metro area. Same school my boss’ kids have gone to…they didn’t know what kind of athlete they had so he transferred to another school…and was ultimately offered a scholarship at TN.

    He is your typical dual threat QB that played in a spread OFC…imo he’s got all the tools as the guys that went in the 1st round. As much as I like the kid I didn’t want him at 135, but that’s water under the bridge now. Much like Trubisky and the other QBs that went ahead of him, the hope now is that you can develop him into a pro QB.

    SEA was able to do it with Russell Wilson. Obviously DAL got a gem in Dak last year. Neither were looked at highly as pro prospects coming out so I’m willing to let this play out and see what happens but it wouldn’t shock me at all if he’s the QB2 this time next year or even this season.

  • Jacob

    Granted, though his accuracy seems to be related to his mechanics and footwork, which are not necessarily beyond repair.

  • Paddy

    Well that’s a different tack Colbert is taking vs his comments on draft day. He sounded then like well we just like the guy but we don’t expect much from him now if ever.

  • Mark

    Injuries at the QB position worked for Ben and Dak. Both of the QBs ahead of them got injured and never played another down at QB for the team. We all know that Ben will get inured and it will be interesting to see if Dobbs or Jones steps in. Landry has had many chances and performed mediocre at best.

  • Paddy

    I don’t see Trubisky as being worth the 3rd pick of the draft. We would gladly take a repeat of Wilson in Dobbs.

  • ATL96STEELER

    I don’t either. CHI got taken big time, but it was their own doing.

  • Mark

    I don’t want to go through the Bradshaw to Ben QB stage (14 or 15 years). Our defense was great during that time but our QBs just couldn’t get us over the hump. Neil O’Donnell came close but his Superbowl made Larry Brown a rich man.

  • Mark

    Ummm have you heard of Tom Brady, he was drafted in the 6th round to learn from Drew Bledsoe and is now the greatest QB of all time. I threw up in mouth writing that, but it is what it is. Drafting, trading or signing as free agent is tricky at best. That singular focus you talk about had us waiting around 25 years after Bradshaw retired to get to another Superbowl because we kept wheeling him out there. The 6p’s. Proper preparation prevents piss poor performance!

  • Danielsteelstrong81

    We got best back, best WR, top oline in nfl this should help out dobbs as it helped Dak in the future

  • Darth Blount 47

    What does getting extremely lucky with Tom Brady have to do with anything? By that rationale, should we ONLY spend our 6th rounders on QB’s? The “P” that comes to my mind is “Propensity.” The Possibility, the Potentiality, and the Propensity, of drafting another Tom Brady at 199th overall, is akin to that guy in ‘The Great Outdoors,’ who got struck by lightning, 67 times in the head.

    Good luck with that.

    Either you spend a high pick (1st or 2nd) on a QB. Or you sign one in Free Agency. Or you trade for one. If you think you are going to find a franchise QB, without doing one of those 3 things… well… again… good luck. And happy hunting.

  • Matt Manzo

    I was also really surprised at his ability to break tackles and truck guys! He took some guys out on a few TD runs!

  • Steeler-Drew

    Great post. It just hit me last night and I finally figured why I believe the Steelers have lacked the sense of urgency needed in Ben’s precious last few years. They have not lived through a 20 year drought between franchise QB’s as die hard fans. I’m half kidding and of course I could be way off but I’m fresh out of coming up with anything better regarding their reasoning.

    The issue I have with Dobbs is they better know by the end of this year if they think he can become Ben’s successor. I’m not sure they are going to get enough of an evaluation to do that. If they don’t then we are back to square one spending another 3rd or 4th round pick on a QB when it could be better used for another position like I don’t know S,CB, ILB, or TE. If they feel he can be and they are wrong after the rubber meets the road after his first 8 games as starter it will set them back into mediocrity for perhaps years.

  • PaeperCup

    Drew Brees? Brett Favre?

  • StillersInThe6

    Couldn’t disagree more. You have this mindset NOW, because we’re in it, and that close. But when you miss that window because of a guy named Tom in our league, at his pinnacle at the same time we are, and Ben retires at the same time He (capitalized purposely) does, and we go 4 straight years without making the playoffs and you would literally give your left nut to just go back to the days of competitive AFC ship losing football, you’ll bang your head and wish your GM thought about the future of the franchise instead of going “all-in” every year and pouring his eggs all in 1 basket.

    It’s a balance of keeping your team as competitive as it can be, with the constraint of growing toward the future.

  • Steel City Slim

    I’ll be happy if Dobbs turns out to be a very solid, reliable backup like Charlie Batch. I’m not expecting him to be Ben’s successor.

  • StillersInThe6

    One 4th round pick in how many years allocated toward a QB gamble…do you realize how many 1st round picks, nevermind 4ths, don’t even ever start for a full season, let alone last past their rookie deal? Point being, the cost wasn’t as absorbent as some are making it out to be imo. They saw big value and upside and figured it was as good a time as any to roll the dice.

  • StillersInThe6

    I think you’re underestimating the difference in cashing in on HIGH 1st round QB picks vs. late round 1sts/2nds etc. Seems to be there’s a very high % of 1sts/2nds that never sniff franchise QB status or even pan out as well. Your theory has just as many flaws as them all (ie. it’s very hard/lucky/not-scientific in order to land said franchise QB)

  • PaeperCup

    You are not arguing that your chance of a franchise QB in the 4th, 5th, or 6th, is as good as finding one in the 1st are you?

    Over the last 15 years only 8 QBs out of the dozens and dozens to have played have won a superbowl. 5 of them were 1st round picks. 1 was a second round pick. Seahawks and Patriots struck gold with their picks, but I doubt ever imagined them being the quality starter they turned out to be.

  • Darth Blount 47

    If Tom at 40 years old (he will be before the season starts) is at his “pinnacle,” then shoot me in the head now and get it over with.

    And secondly, with the team we have constructed, why would we all of a sudden go 4 straight years without making the playoffs? Is it IMPOSSIBLE to find decent QB’s or something? Can they NOT be signed in Free Agency? Can they NOT be traded for??????? Can they NOT be drafted highly? I’m perplexed. You make it sound like there are 4 good QB’s in the league and everyone else are bums.

    And 3rd… all it takes is 1 really down year and voila! You get to draft in a spot in the 1st and 2nd round, that makes it much easier to find a franchise QB through the draft.

    And lastly… And I want to be VERY clear on this last point…. IF we can “go-all-in” and win a Super Bowl this year or next, with Big Ben, or optimistically, let’s say we win it THIS year AND next… I’ll gladly go 10… not 4…. 10, straight years of mediocrity or less, in order to have that be the result. For I’d rather win another Super Bowl NOW, than merely stay “competitive” for the next 10 years. Always winning between 8 and 13 games, but NEVER actually winning it all.

    Sure, from a FO perspective, being just close enough to win, but never actually doing it, is actually a REALLY good thing. It keeps the fans clinging onto hope. Watching ever move with eager anticipation. Keeping butts in the seats. And always chasing the proverbial dragon. It’s a win/win for them. But not for the fans. I don’t know about you… but I ADORE Big Ben. And I want him and James Harrison to have at LEAST one more ring before it is all said and done. And to HELL with what happens after that.

  • RickM

    I think the lack of urgency on Ben was probably related to their belief he would play at least 16 years and maybe longer. They likely looked around and saw Brady, Eli and Brees, etc. not even hinting at retirement. But of course Ben’s playing style is uniquely different and he has been hit far more than those 3 ever will. Should they have recognized a 6’5″ 240-250 pound guy who’s been punished a lot will wear out physically sooner. Sure. But if they can get the right guy in 2017 or 2018 it may not matter much as I think Ben will fulfill his contract and tutor the replacement.

    My concern is how many guys will they go through before they find the right guy. This is #1 in my books and based on what I’ve seen of him in action, I don’t think he’s the answer. But the overwhelming question in my mind is similar to yours – do they have a timetable to determine if Dobbs could be the guy, or do they just plan to give him 3 years and then make a decision? I stand virtually alone in the following comment (seems like a familiar place lately). But Dobbs immediately becomes my #2 QB in practices if I’m in charge. Landry is already well-prepared to come in if he has to. Giving him the #1 snaps when Ben is off on Wednesdays is a waste of time in terms of Jones’ further development. Dobbs should get the snaps because the sooner we find out if he is the right or wrong guy, the faster we can make our next succession plan move, if necessary. But that is probably not how they’ll do it which leaves me wondering do they have a timetable for Dobbs and when we’ll see the next possible successor brought in if he doesn’t work out?

  • Conserv_58

    The coaching staff will have far more influence on his development than the other players will. They’ll just make his learning easier.

  • Conserv_58

    Trubisky is absolutely not worthy of that pick. IMO, he’ll be lucky to make it to the end of his rookie contract. The Bears’ GM will eventually be fired because of this major blunder.

  • barry foster

    Get your popcorn ready for training camp !!!

  • Darth Blount 47

    Exactly.

  • StillersInThe6

    Uhh what more do you literally have to see to say with confidence that Tom Brady is the best QB in the NFL????? Who cares what age he’s doing it at. No need to address that further, really.

    Just look at the QB FA market every year, it’s mostly crap. No one gives up a good QB – no one, and I act like that for good reason; good franchise QBs are incredibly hard to come by, just look around the NFL…

    Ifs and buts…you’re like 90% of North America where present gratification trumps all. Let me have that McDonalds meal b/c now is more important than later. If we could win a SB…yeah obviously everyone would be on the same page as you, but realities like competition, injuries, sheer randomness of sports in those 60 minutes, etc etc etc. derail such a strategy quickly.

  • Conserv_58

    BAH! It’s all hyperbole until the kid takes the field and proves he was worthy of the team’s investment in him.

  • PaeperCup

    hypothetically, who if there’s anyone in the league right now failing with one team, might have success somewhere else? or a backup that has starter potential.

  • Darth Blount 47

    If we are truly being real… finding a good QB is NOT that hard. All it takes is the WILL to do what is necessary. Yes, drafting a guy in the 6th round and having him be one of the greatest ever, really is choice. And if you have the means, I highly recommend that. But outside of picking at the top 1/3 of the draft, what is really required, is being behind the eight ball enough, that you strike appropriately when you have the chance. A really good QB is going to come available to be signed. And if there somehow isn’t, you put on your big boy pants and you call teams that you have built relationships with (novel concept) and you offer them a boatload of picks. Like back up a freaking Brinks truck. “Oh, you need our 1st and 2nd and another 1st? Okay.”

    Now, people will tell that if you do that and then the guy you get is a bust, well then you just screwed up. But whose fault is that? Obviously the person doing the evaluating. So DON’T do a shoddy evaluation job. Or don’t have bad enough Karma or tick the Gods off enough, that they blow out the knees of your newly acquired-high-priced QB.

    Point is, life is a gamble. But like life, there is more than one way to skin a cat. And New Orleans signed Drew Brees off the street. SF traded for Steve Young. Brett Favre WASN’T drafted by Green Bay, but was instead traded by Atlanta. Kurt Warner was bagging groceries. Peyton Manning was signed off the street for Denver. Fran Tarkenton was traded to Minnesota. And John Elway was traded by Baltimore to Denver.

    So you’re right, it just takes the “have to.” And it CAN be done.

  • RickM

    I just don’t think you have a GM that will go the FA or trade QB route, as a replacement to Ben that is. I also think it’s tougher now to find a FA, or make a trade, to get a guy who can lead you to a title. Not impossible, but very difficult. But I agree with your overall theory, i.e. be open to every possible personnel avenue.

  • StillersInThe6

    You forgot Drew Brees?

    You can take your exact same data, and ask, how many Superbowls in those 15 years were won by QBs not drafted in the 1st round? You’d get a very sizable total.

    Every year multiple QBs are taken in the 1st round, and yet only Eli Manning, Peyton (2 1st overall picks btw..), Flacco, Big Ben among those 40/50+ QBs have won ships?? That could actually be strengthening my point of NOT trying to swing at 1st round QBs unless you absolutely need to.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Denver did pretty well signing Peyton Manning.

  • Darth Blount 47

    I think the best current bet, is Matthew Stafford. He’s on the last year of his contract. And if Ben retires after this year, and he can’t get an extension worked out with Detroit.. he’d be at the top of my list. Without digging too deep. And he’s only 29.

  • Roger G

    You make a good point. Landry is a “known commodity” at this stage. Dobbs on the other hand is the great unknown. He should be the 2nd stringer day one and as such gets more reps than Landry should in camp/practice to move forward with his evaluation. Colbert dug him up now it’s time to polish this gem to see if in fact it is one or just a turd.

  • PaeperCup

    I got Brees in there. He was the second rounder. Well a 32nd pick, so basically first rounder.

    Here’s the point, either you can predict the talent, or it’s out of left field. Not one of them were those tweeners, “maybe he’ll be good”, “he could develop into something special.” “With work he could be a starter”. Wilson perhaps comes the closest to that description.

    To your point, How many of those first round QBs become franchise QBs, but don’t win titles? How many in the later rounds become franchise QBs? Are there more QBs taken in the first round as opposed to other rounds?

    We can say in the end it’s a crap shoot, but I don’t think it is really. The likely hood of a first rounder being a franchise QB, and a title winning one at that is significantly higher than a qb selected in any other round.

  • Michael James

    I get what you’re saying, but trading for a QB in the 90s or even early 00s was something completely different than it is now. New England reportedly wants multiple first-round picks for Jimmy fecking Garoppolo, who has played 3 games in the NFL and has been a career-backup so far. The Redskins would gladly trade Cousins, but only for a king’s ransom.
    The reality nowadays is, if you want to aquire a good or even promising QB via trade, you have to sell the whole farm.

  • PaeperCup

    Bottom line, a super bowl winning franchise QB is hard to find no matter where you look. Good thing we got one now, so lets try to win now.

  • Darth Blount 47

    For the right guy, you sell it. And Cousins is going to be a free agent next year. So you just wait till then, and then back up the Brinks truck, if that is the guy you want. Point is, there ARE WAYS to go about it. Or you package multiple picks to move up in the draft. If you aren’t bad enough to have gained a top selection based on record.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Good plan!

  • tcirish53@gmail.com

    Thanks. Seems you and I are REGULARLY of like mind!!

  • Roger G

    I guess Colbert’s reasoning is “Hey, we didn’t have to trade up to get Ben. We stayed the course and was true to our board. When it was our turn to pick he was our highest rated player, just so happen he filled a big need. So if we have a QB (or long snapper) as our BPA at the time we pick we’ll draft that player no matter the round.”

  • PaeperCup

    You can add Bledsoe, Brady…but I’m gonna go out on a limb and suggest the Patriots never intended Brady to replace Bledsoe as a starter.

    Even though Pats fans swear that Belicheck is a master genius who predicted Brady’s fortunes long before he was throwing a football.

  • PaeperCup

    Good one!

    I was thinking Maybe Kirk Cousins.

  • Darth Blount 47

    So don’t try then? Just throw up your hands and lay down? Let me guess… “Hold on to hope and change?” Is that it. Slogans and BS, without actual effort or work? Of course life is a gamble and nothing is for certain. But yes, I don’t know if you know this or not, but life is SHORT. Like… REALLY short. So you can eat salads every day and reduce your chance at a heart attack, and then get hit by a bus. And if you don’t think that happens, it just did. Like literally, just now.

    Life is for the living, my friend. You can’t take anything with you. So within moderation, you should do what you want, when you want, how you want, because tomorrow isn’t promised for you or I.

    You make it seem black and white. If you have gratification now, then that somehow means you can’t or won’t have it later. Well tell that to New England, who didn’t have a pick in the first few rounds this year. And who has made it to 6 straight AF Championships. Think THEY are only worried about 5 years from now?!

    And teams DO give up good QB’s to Free Agency. Ever heard of Peyton Manning? Drew Brees? Rich Gannon? Kurt Warner? Randall Cunningham?
    Maybe soon Kirk Cousins or Matt Stafford might join that list. And you can always trade for one. Carson Palmer was traded twice. Brett Favre = traded. Steve Young = traded. Alex Smith, Fran Tarkenton, John Elway, Joe Montana, all TRADED.

  • RickM

    Agree. There’s not the time to find out as there was with Landry. You shouldn’t put Dobbs in uncomfortable positions, but the #1 practice back-up hardly seem like that.

  • Darth Blount 47

    We can all thank Dan Rooney for that… apparently. Not so sure Ben was their BPA.

  • RickM

    For sure, and I’m not sure how many guys we’ll go through to find a guy who can definitely keep us competitive. Colbert has a daunting task.

  • pittsburghjoe

    If I hear he is a smart guy one more time…… I am glad Thomas Edison was not coming out this year or they would have taken him in the 1st round instead of Watt. Because you cant have Watt before Edison… get it? You need electricity first.

  • RickM

    In Year 1 yes. But not really in the SB year. He was Trent Dilfer-like with a role not to make mistakes. If you seriously think Colbert will ever go after a Manning, a Cousins, etc., don’t hold your breath. He won’t. He’s too old school. He wouldn’t even step on a little bit of a ledge to upgrade the back-up in FA.

  • Darth Blount 47

    *Sighs in agreement*

  • steelburg

    I will be looking to his preseason performance next to see how he compares to both Russell Wilson and Dak Prescott during there rookie years. If he comes any where close to these numbers we may have something.

    Russell Wilson
    40 of 63 for 536 yards
    63.5% completion percentage 5 tds, and 1 int.
    10 attempts rushing for 150 rushing yards 1 td.

    Dak Prescott
    39 of 50 for 454 yards
    78.0% completion percentage
    5 tds, and 0 int.
    7 attempts rushing for 53 rushing yards and 2 tds.

  • RickM

    It’s too bad, because I actually agree with your approach of every avenue is in play.

  • Darth Blount 47

    We’d have drafted Edison in the 1st and New England would have drafted Tesla in the 6th…

  • StillersInThe6

    We have far different mentalities on life DB. I play the percentages. Who’s likely to die first, the obese McDonalds eater, or the healthy/fit guy getting randomly hit by a bus?? The averages are not close.

    No point going back and forth since we obviously have a large fundamental disagreement in principals. Imo, I’m not the one here making it seem black or white, I’m the one arguing they can allocate X amount of resources and energy into winning for 2017-18 and Y amount of resources for the future. It’s a balance. Living only in the now seems pertinent for those who expect to perish in the near future. The Steelers, their fanbases, will be just as engaged when Ben’s gone as now. By all means you have a window here (Ben, AB, O-line, etc.) and you attack it, but spending a 4th round pick on a gamble QB for the future doesn’t really severely impact your chances of winning this coming year in the slightest to me, or the Steelers evidently.

  • pittsburghjoe

    That will be difficult to recreate. You cant duplicate CB’s game experience. But, on the other hand Dobbs has his strengths as well. By the way…did you hear he was smart?

  • James Cooley

    If he were to dethrone Ben in his rookie year would be awesome, although he has little or no chance to replace #7 at this time in a few years maybe.

  • Darth Blount 47

    I feel ya. And I enjoy the different perspectives. Just as I respect and enjoy reading yours. I learn from each interaction that I have. And so I thank you for that. But you’re right, we may just have different mindsets, and that’s okay. Because I put way too much time and effort into scouting and studying and preparing for the draft each year, a 4th round pick in my world can be the difference between ultimately winning or losing. And I acknowledge that. And I acknowledge that it may be slightly crazy.

    But it drives me insane when I see us treating the here and now as though it is important, but not crucial. And you’re right, after I had recent deaths in my family, including my own father, it becomes much more difficult to think about years from now, and much easier to see what every single solitary second can and should bring. My least favorite saying in the world has now become… “I’m just wasting time.” That is anathema to my very soul now. And though some people can’t see the potential critical aspect of even a 4th rounder for us, I imagine how that player could be the difference between stopping a Tom Brady slant for a TD, or not.

    And I swear, if I have to see one more hoisting of that trophy by that guy, after stepping on our necks, I’m likely to blow a gasket. Or walk out in front of that bus. πŸ˜‰

  • StillersInThe6

    Russell Wilson. Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Kurt Warner…how many Superbowls do those account for in the last 20 years?? Almost half?? Tom Brady tips the scale, sure, but even if you throw him away, there’s still a sizable amount of non high picks to have won championships – enough for me to conclude it’s really not a science and more of a crap shoot.

  • DirtDawg1964

    Well, mechanics aren’t easy to fix. Joe Flacco has poor footwork and tends to point his hips away from the pass at times which lead to problems for him. And that’s something they’ve been fixing since he got in the league. And Tebow’s poor mechanics caused him to be bounced from the league. Once you have ingrained those muscles to think one way, it’s hard to get them to think another.

    Having said that, Dobbs completed 63% of his passes in his final year. Not great but not awful either. There is hope here. Seems to me the plan really is to first find a stable #2. They can say they have that with Landry but I’m not buying it. If Dobbs can be it, so be it. It’s a good pick. If he can actually ascend to the number one role it’s an all-time great pick.

  • dany

    Game, set, match

  • Darth Blount 47

    Have you seen James Harrison? Lol…

    That jersey better be BRIGHT red.

  • barry foster

    Possible he will have plenty of time to play and some nice receivers to throw to

  • Darth Blount 47

    I stand in the minority by saying that I like Landry Jones. I don’t think either he or Dobbs is the heir apparent. But I like my chances right now with Landry more than Josh. And since Ben tends to miss games, we need a sharpened-to-a-point Landry Jones, with confidence and the belief that we’ll let him do his thing. I’m sorry… I HATE to be the Debbie Downer, but Josh Dobbs will likely NEVER see the field for the Steelers in the regular season. And I mean…. never. And if he did, Lord help us. Unless it’s as a WR or special weapon.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Hey, if you know of any guys stocking shelves at Giant Eagle right now with a wicked arm, can you please pass it on to Colbert, courtesy of all of us? πŸ™‚

  • RickM

    I get you’re joking lol. But the biggest danger of the Dobbs pick to me – by far – is that it likely eliminates them from taking a QB in ’18 and ’19. I wanted our first swing of the bat to be higher in the draft in the better 2018 crop. Taking a QB late in the 4th round from a weak QB class and possibly riding with him for several years – if he turns out not to the answer – would set the franchise back immeasurably given the current strong supporting cast.

  • Darth Blount 47

    That’s why I have faith in two things, Rick my boy…

    One, Big Ben honors his contract.

    And two, in a few years of taking a pounding or getting sick of carrying a clipboard, our boy Josh here, gets an insatiable itch to either design a new airplane, or join his Cosmonaut friends, 248 miles above the earth.

  • RickM

    OMG are you ever wrong on this one. Landry is as sharp as he will ever be and he would lead the team to 5 or 6 wins at most. Suggesting we continue to prioritize Landry’s continued learning and not get a definite answer on Dobbs would be a disaster.

  • Darth Blount 47

    When in the world are we gonna rely on Landry to have to win 5 or 6 games?! I’m talking as a spot backup, just like he has always been. NOT as the heir apparent!

  • Douglas Andrews

    Think we better wait to see what Josh does during TC and the Preseason. If he gets a Landry Jones like amount of snaps in the preseason then something tells me that Colbert and Tomlin have something bigger in mind for Dobbs than just the backup QB spot. After watching a few of Dobbs games I think he’s got everything you need in a successor to Ben. Now the question becomes can he do it and well just have to wait and see.

  • RickM

    So what is this plan or yours? Two to three years of Jones as #2 with Dobbs behind him…and when Ben leaves we go to succession plan QB #2. No thanks. They found out immediately with Prescott, Wilson, etc. if they were good enough. You don’t park a guy like Dobbs in the #3 QB spot, give him 2 to 3 years and then say ‘oh he wasn’t good enough after all’.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Have you not be reading at all? I’m really confused by what you just wrote. My plan is VERY simple. We start Big Ben. We put the ABSOLUTE BEST POSSIBLE talent around him. Which means no more stupid luxury picks. I could give a rat’s behind who our backups are. Because I don’t live in my fears, I’ll assume that Ben starts a MINIMUM of 14 games or so, each of the next few remaining years.

    Next year, assuming Ben is still around, I STILL don’t to draft a QB. No need. We have to keep rebuilding and plugging holes. Then, maybe, in 2019, I draft a QB. Heck, I may even trade up high into the draft to do so. No matter the cost. I’ll assume Ben only has one or MAYBE 2 more seasons at MOST. Let’s just say the one. If I can’t find a QB to draft in ’19, I don’t panic. Because we still have Ben for one more year. So the next off-season, I trade for one. NO MATTER THE COST. OR I sign one. Whichever one I like best. And yes, again, no matter the cost.

    Why do I care whether I have Dobbs or Jones sitting on my bench as you put it, for the next 2 or 3 years??!?! NEITHER of them is going to be my heir. Let ’em sit. Let ’em not. I don’t care. I’m focused on Ben first and then finding a QB that is either a high pedigree from the draft in a few years from now, or I’m trading for one or signing one. None of those 3 things involve either Landry or Josh. And neither of those 3 things will be AFFECTED by either Landry or Josh.

  • Matt Manzo

    I hope he gets that much playing time!

  • Robert E Lil

    I hate that throwing motion
    But I love adding talent at the qb position.
    good pick

  • Matt Manzo

    Did Wilson and Dak have to play with the 3’s or did they get a bunch of time with the 2nd string?

  • Jacob

    Fair point. It’s not easily corrected, but certainly not impossible.

  • RickM

    You started the whole discussion posting about the “proper succession plan to Ben” and you suggested that the draft is not the only answer, free agency is an avenue. We then started talking about whether Colbert would go that route or not and agreed it was unlikely. I am now asking, giving the scenario that they limit their succession efforts to the draft, how do we handle Dobbs…and future drafts vis a vis drafting QB prospects?

    Forget Ben Roethlisberger. Everyone in the world would play Ben for as long as he stays. Forget he exists. He has nothing to do with the original topic you raised – proper succession planning. His role is strictly as a mentor if he is here.

    Assuming their succession plan does not involve FA, how do they proceed in the evaluation of Dobbs? How many years do you want to give them to make a decision on him? Do they speed up his developmental curve or not? Do they draft another QB in say 2019 if he doesn’t look promising? What’s your “proper succession plan” if their sole focus in replacing Ben is through the draft?

  • Matthew Marczi

    Wouldn’t surprise me. At least they didn’t trade up for Trent Richardson though.

  • RickM

    Thanks. You’re first paragraph threw me. But I now understand that you have written Dobbs off, but do not want to make any additional QB moves for at least two years and may be willing to wait longer than that. Too risky for my liking. But I appreciate that trade or free agency is your route, with no exceptions. The only problem with that is it has little chance of happening under Kevin C. He will rely on the draft, as he is already doing.

  • Matthew Marczi

    Dak was playing right away getting a lot of time with the 1s and 2s. For Wilson, Matt Flynn played the first half of the first two preseason games, but then he started the third game and played most of it, sealing his role as the starter there. Started the final game but didn’t play as much since the starters don’t play as much that week.

  • pittsburghjoe

    Ha thats funny. I think I need a few more days to grumble. Then it will be nothing but support. There is no timeline on the long snapper though.

  • PaeperCup

    Drew Brees was a high pick. 32nd overall. But we won’t count him as a 1st round pick.

    from nfl .com 55.3% of superbowl wins came from QBs who were selected in the 1st round. That means the other 45% are spread out through the remaining rounds, including the 5 won by Brady himself. Only 1, Kurt Warner was undrafted.

    It is absolute fact that your chances of winning the SuperBowl are greater with a 1st round QB. It’s not an absolute, but the likelihood of winning a title is significantly greater with a 1st rounder.

  • PaeperCup

    at the time, we can’t say Dak earned that playing time though. Romo obviously got injured, and I think Weedon was the only other QB on roster? I don’t remember, but I remember it was a mess. I actually was just looking at an SI article from last summer, ranking the NFLs backup QBs. Dallas fell dead last haha.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Haha. It’s a wondrous thing how perspectives work. You call it “a scramble.” I call it.. “not panicking unnecessarily early.”

  • barry foster

    Lol

  • Jeff McNeill

    I hope he beats out Landry then he can get all of the Wednesday first team reps.

  • Matthew Marczi

    Yeah, Prescott played the first half of the first game with Romo not playing at all. Romo had two drives the next game with Dak getting the majority of the rest, then Romo got injured on the first drive of game three and he stayed through the third, but didn’t play in the fourth game as he was already going to be the starter by that point.

  • RickM

    Lol, well maybe in the future don’t say that there is more than one “proper succession plan”. You confuse slow-witted poor readers like me into thinking you have an actual plan. When all you really are saying is that every possible option is on the table 2 to 3 years from now. A normal succession plan isn’t ‘we’ll figure it out in his final year or after he has left’.

  • Jeff McNeill

    More like 20 years.

  • barry foster

    I disagree darth I have faith in the kid ,and hopefully he doesn’t see the field until year 2. I have faith in our coaching staff to groom this kid .

  • steelburg

    Both played with mostly 1s and 2s. But if you think back to last year Ben barely played in the preseason and Landry played a ton of snaps. I assume that both Dobbs and Landry will play similar to how Wilson and Flynn did.

  • Jeff McNeill

    I agree.

  • J Jones

    Think his terrible oline definitely affected his accuracy.

  • Darth Blount 47

    I didn’t realize I was being paid to have a plan… Lol.

    Also, I was paraphrasing Colbert and quoting Dave B, who said:

    “Colbert went on to once again talk about the importance of the Steelers having a possible succession plan in place should Roethlisberger ultimately decide to retire before his current contract expires.” And Colbert’s: β€œIf you don’t have a succession plan at that position, boy, your franchise can suffer…”

    And yes, UNLIKE Colbert, apparently, and MANY readers (some slow-witted, and some not) who ONLY want to talk about the draft, draft, draft, including apparently yourself (though you said you agree with me about keeping all options open but then in the same breath only want to talk about drafting someone) seem to need reminded that there IS more than one way to skin a cat.

    And unlike yourself, apparently, I don’t stress about the earth-shattering possibility that if Ben retires and we don’t have a QB, and somehow can’t find one, draft one, trade for one, or sign one, that the world will implode if we spend a year or two having to pick at the top of the draft because our record is no longer stellar. I know, we ARE and HAVE been a little spoiled around here. But I remember the 80’s quite well. Big hair, denims, Ronald Reagan, bad Steeler teams, and all.

  • J Jones

    This yr will tell how much more time we have with #7. No reason why he shouldnt come into camp in great shape. His weapons are numerous, anything less than an mvp caliber, super bowl run from him would prolly cause me to begin to question him.

  • PaeperCup

    I probably won’t question him more than I already do. He’s got nothing left to prove after taking the Steelers to 3 superbowls, but you may be right that it would be nice to have him in the MVP conversation.

    I think Ben just needs to a) stay healthy and b) elevate his road games production to what he does at home. If he does that, with the weapons he has, and the system Haley runs, there is little reason why he shouldn’t have that type of year.

  • StillersInThe6

    Two things though – I was never arguing that your chances of getting your franchise QB wasn’t higher in the 1st round. No one would dispute that! My argument was that your chances aren’t “significantly higher” by drafting a 1st round QB vs. all other rounds (ie. a binary analysis – 1st round or later). 53% to 47% isn’t significant by any means. What that assessment fails to factor in is opportunity cost. The cost is much higher missing a 1st rounder QB pick than say a 4th round (or essentially any pick outside of your 1st). To me, it’s just not as cut or dry (nor should all the evidence we’ve discussed) tell you that you need to find your franchise QB in the 1st round. Do you have a better shot? Of course. But I said only if you NEED to do it (ie. you’re the Browns, etc.) you take that shot – not an AFC contender with a hall of fame QB, the opportunity cost is too high.

  • Matt Manzo

    Yeah, now that Landry is for sure the #2, Dobbs should get a lot of snaps. I’m actually looking forward to that 4th pre season game!

  • Ryan Alderman

    Agreed.

  • Matt Manzo

    I imagine Dobbs won’t get much time with the 1s and 2s.

  • StillersInThe6

    Lol I hear ya DB. We have the same wishes (and hatreds…Tom/Billicheat) lol. Just a different means of going about those goals/wishes. And trust me, I’m as frustrated as you and as emotional when watching as fan I’ve seen. I purposely watch 95% of the games solo because I’m too emotional and need to be right into the game without distractions (I also live in Toronto, so don’t know many other diehards here). But I’m as excited about some of the young guys on this squad as anything, and would hate to see this young talent go to waste when Ben goes. It’s a ton of fun being a Steelers fan, we’re so spoiled with this offense/team, and I don’t want that to run out in the generation post-Ben. Keep stocking the cupboards and thinking about tmrw as you go about trying to get next year’s ship.

    But I hear your stance and definitely a part of me inside that wants the same. Sorry to hear about your recent losses. We’re all shaped by our different experiences, for sure.

  • J Jones

    Completely agree. AB, and Lev have carried us in the past, while putting themselves in the MVP convo in the process. If Ben can do the same one of these seasons we win it all, considering hes getting paid like an MVP candidate. Hell, id even take a team MVP award at this point!!

  • Jaybird

    What would piss you off more- that fact that we took a long snapper in the 6th, or if he can’t beat out warren and gets cut.

  • StarSpangledSteeler

    And he checks off the most important box of all…

    Colbert prefers overdrafting mediocre QB’s in the 4th round and pretending that they’re better than they actually are.

    Landry Jones checked off that box. And now so does Josh Dobbs. Perfect fit.

  • will

    KEVIN……..you are putting lipstick on a pig no matter how you try to spin it.

  • will

    Agree!!!!

  • John Pennington

    Still cant believe people are upset about drafting a qb if the steelerss didnt draft a qb everyone would crying knowing Jones would be leading the team and zack would have been the backup.We have to give the young man a chance to learn they did that for Jones and see what we got from that maybe they will draft another qb next year as long as the steelers take the position serious we all should support what the team is doing not getting caught with their pants down but moving forward to keep this team on top of their game.Greenbay went thru the same thing when they drafted Rodgers and Favre said it was not his job to help anyone at least Ben stepped up like a man said he would help any way he could thats a HOF in my book.Go Ben.

  • Matthew Marczi

    Actually I think he’ll get a lot of time with the 2s. Roethlisberger barely played last preseason and I doubt he’ll play much more this year. I think he had like two or three series in the third game. So Dobbs should actually get plenty of quality snaps both in practice and in the preseason.

  • Matthew Marczi

    Bonus: the Steelers drafted a long snapper in 2005 I think in the 6th round. Pre-Warren. Didn’t make the team, and they signed Warren the next year.

  • I guess I’m repeating myself–I said the same ‘bottom line’ on another post–but having stepped back to look at the ‘what do the Steelers REALLY see and hope for re Josh Dobbs’ upside?’ I’m more than ever convinced they drafted him to potentially be Ben’s eventual successor. Why do I think so?

    1. Colbert and Tomlin have staunchly backed Landry Jones through thick and thin, recently giving him a two-year $4.4M contract with a $600K signing bonus. Therefore, since the team was willing to commit to Landry as lately as early March to being Ben’s back-up, why would they burn a valuable fourth round pick on a back-up QB six weeks later…especially since the pick’s value was probably as good as a third round pick in a normal draft because this draft was supposedly so deep in positions of the team’s needs?
    2. Ben’s career could easily be over as soon as his next brutal hit. At this point in his career, would anyone expect him to go through the lengthy and painful rehab required to return from serious structural injuries–to say nothing of getting back into game shape after being inert for months? And all for what? To play another year? So while he’s signed through 2019, would it be so surprising if he only plays one or two more years? If such transpires, the team was facing having L Jones as Ben’s replacement–even if just for a year–or throwing a rookie to the dogs…or it had to get the best fit per their evaluations this year and prepare to the future.
    3. This isn’t to say they’re committed to replacing Ben eventually with Dobbs. Like I’ve said, I think they like what they see in Dobbs–possibly a lot–and they’re crossing their collective fingers while seeing what they’ve drafted. If he pans out, great! If not, they’ve ttime [hopefully] to reload.

    The more I think of it, the more sense this pick seems to make.

  • John Pennington

    Steelers backup qbs have been bad for years and soon as the team draft a qb everyone thinks he has to be a All Pro let the young man learn and stop being so hard on a player who hasnt even started learning not even a week with the team.No one knows how this will play out to bash someone like this is just wrong,Listen to the same thing when PACKERS drafted Rodgers and when Favre left people said the same thing whats being said now but when he started oh everyone knew he was going to be good what a lie because I remembered what they where saying but they didnt the pot calling the kettke black.

  • Roberto Vaquero BazΓ‘n

    As did helped Ben his rockie year, only difference is Ben had a defense that held oponents under 9 points or so!

  • Steeler-Drew

    The cost became higher with Ben’s limited time left and short window to another Super Bowl. If Ben had no timetable and say another 5-6 years left I would agree with you. Many didn’t like the Jones pick but probably thought he could develop into a good back up which was okay at the time.

    I’m guessing if Dobbs was gone and their choice was Kaaya they would be making him out to be the best thing since sliced bread as well. You lost credibility when you referred to a 4th round pick as being a lotto pick. While many don’t make it many do and make immediate impacts to help their team. I’m guessing you did not go through the 20 year drought as a diehard fan. It was frustrating at times to say the least when they had teams good enough to make the Super Bowl but couldn’t get over the hump without a franchise QB. This was not the year to experiment with Ben’s replacement. They have 3 more cracks at it at the most before possibly another dry spell. I would be willing to bet big Ben is not going to play beyond his current contract. In fact, it would not surprise me one bit if he doesn’t complete his current contract.

    They had too many holes to fill in this draft not try to and get quality players who can help this team win now. It has been well documented there was some quality TE’s still on the board that can help this team win today if Green suffers a career ending hit.

    In today’s NFL a three year apprenticeship is not needed. The expectations for players are an accelerated growth or teams move on. You like the pick, I didn’t. Time will tell if they made the right decision.

  • Steeler-Drew

    I could get on board with Dobbs as a #2 in practice. Especially if it means they can have a clear decision in their mind if they have to dip into the QB market once again next year. I have never been a Jones fan and give a backup QB less value. If Ben misses significant time it will likely end their season anyway. I wasn’t fan of Connor picked so early for similar reasons. If Bell misses significant time their season could also end with his loss as well. Not to mention Bell will get 95% of the snaps when healthy and Connor will hardly see the field anyway. If they drafted a good TE however and Green got hurt again that player could see significant playing time.

    But I’m on the same page regarding Dobbs and as you suggested they will probably not accelerate his growth by the end of the year leaving his long term potential as more of a guess than an educated guess. I’m going to be real curious to see the QB crop next year and if it would have made way more sense to wait another year with more talent to pick from at the QB position.

  • Ryan Alderman

    I was puzzled about the pick as well. I’m just going to enjoy Ben as Jacob suggested and hope that Dobbs develops, like his intangibles overall, but I won’t be a bit surprised if next season they’re going QB again, only higher. They themselves said he was “not drafted to be Ben’s replacement”. Would have preferred a tight end there myself, esp. in light of that proclamation.

  • Ryan Alderman

    He means because of injury much the way Ben dethroned Maddox. Woukd probably also “dethrone” our SB aspirations.

  • Ryan Alderman

    I think Ben is going to kick butt this season, very confident in him and this offense when all back together.

  • Disqussant

    He’s just punishing Ben for speculating on retirement: if you speculate, we’ll draft someone who can’t help the team this year and lower the chances of SB

  • gentry_gee

    You’re right Towlie. Usually your accuracy drops off over time.

  • SilverSteel

    Disagree. Landry can be a 10 win QB if he had the snaps. I’ve seen flashes out of him that tells me he just needs more time with the 1st team to flourish. You guys make him out to be a dunce or something. He is an average QB with a good team around him. I saw Dilfer win it all in the same circumstances.

  • SilverSteel

    Agreed. Good point.

  • Conserv_58

    Yeah, that’s it. NOT!

  • Conserv_58

    Every one of his flawes are coachable.

  • Conserv_58

    There is no alterior motive or reason why Colbert selected Dobbs other than what he said. The question becomes how long before he is ready for the team to have the least bit of confidence in inserting him into a game? Dobbs is in no way ready to be inserted into a game. Hence the reason why they drafted him now with the idea of having him sit behind Ben and learn for a couple of years. Dobbs has a high ceiling and it’s up to him to maximize all that the coaching staff and Ben have to offer to be the best that he could be in two years.

  • Conserv_58

    This egregiously illogical sacrifice for this pick will set that team back for years. Talk about being QB challenged, I actually found myself feeling sorry for the bears fans because they deserve better from their inept front office.

  • Conserv_58

    True. Then again they could have had, Johnny Manziel.

  • The Big Cheese

    Debbie Downer? Pee down my back and tell me it’s raining? Your sir, are quotable. Can I use your stuff?????

  • StillersInThe6

    I like the pick, and you didn’t. Should have left it at that. Losing credibility because I agree that it was a great spot to gamble?? Lol, okay pal. I guess the Steelers organization has equally zero credibility as me…right.

    And the cost actually became lower because Ben’s limited time left, not higher. Your logic is skewed, at best. If Ben had 5-6 years left, then the cost of choosing a QB in round 4 would be enormous, since we obviously don’t need a QB any time soon. But because we don’t know whether Ben even comes back for 2018-19 season, the cost became much lower to try and gamble on a high upside next QB pick.

    The chances of a 4th round pick helping us win a superbowl this year is quite low, despite how advanced you think your credibility is, sorry.

  • Steeler-Drew

    And the chances of Dobbs ever helping this team get to a super bowl are even lower “pal”. I assume you were not a diehard fan during the 20 years of drought or you would have mentioned it. You should have left it as agree to disagree then.

  • Joel Miller

    Everyone remembers that Warren beat out Mike Schneck when he was at the top of his game, right? Schneck went to Atlanta and was in the pro bowl the year that Warren beat him out…

    These things have cycles and looks like Warren’s cycle is up and they want their next snapper.

  • Joel Miller

    Actually drafting a passable maybe in the 4th round as the heir apparent to your backup QB who isn’t all that stellar makes a ton of sense to me. Especially given this was our 5th pick in the draft. The draft went a little off the rails in the second round with the way the board broke. They went with a BPA type pick and usually that gets applauded. I went back and looked at what was around and I probably wouldn’t have pulled the trigger on a CB at that spot either. You could argue moving up, but that invariably costs significant resources.

    I probably would have picked a TE where they grabbed Conner and looked at Conner where they picked Dobbs. Ideally, a 2nd round talent CB would have been there in the 2nd, but that really dried up with Awuzie being picked a spot or 2 ahead of them. Trading for QBs usually means you getting fleeced. I’d much prefer the draft a QB strategy. Remember, we got Ben after a miserable year. If you are lucky you get just one of those.

  • Joel Miller

    Actually, I view Dobbs as the successor to Jones. Remember Landry Jones had to set records taking pre season snaps to reach the lofty heights of below average NFL backup from his 4th round selection.

    Just turn on old tape of Landry…I’ve never seen a QB look worse in the pre-season.

  • StillersInThe6

    The % chances lost from a 4th round pick contributing to a Ben-led SB, is a lower figure than the % chances gained from Dobbs (instead of said 4th round pick) contributing to a post-Ben SB, which is all that matters to me.

  • mhurk

    Im sure it made O’Donnell a rich man as well, I still wonder how much Jerry Jones paid O’donnell to throw that SuperBowl.

  • Douglas Andrews

    Does he show starter traits in your opinion?

  • Darth Blount 47

    Haha! Of course. Just be sure to use proper sourcing.

  • Disqussant

    Wow. Keep smiling!

  • Matt Manzo

    That’s true! I hope he gets some time with quality players!

  • Matthew Marczi

    I have a strong feeling your hope is well-placed.

  • Matt Manzo

    I also hope Brian Allen can cover TEs!

  • Matthew Marczi

    That would be great…maybe in a year or two. He needs to be taught to embrace the physicality of the position before he can do that though. Very raw and at times still an offensive player at heart. I wouldn’t be surprised if JuJu is a better tackler right now.