Steelers Vs Bengals Winners/Losers

Great win. Great day. Great fans.

WINNERS

Le’Veon Bell/Rosie Nix: Two Columbus boys doing damage on the team who plays in Ohio. Bell was brilliant again, continuing to find his groove. 134 yards on the ground on another 30+ carry day, 35 this week, and had an incredible 42 yard reception. That stiff arm on Dre Kirkpatrick was dirty.

Nix helped clear the way, cracking skulls as only he’s able to do. There were times he should’ve been more. And in 2017, when you have a fanbase screaming a fullback’s name, you know it’s a good one.

David DeCastro: Another key cog in the run game. Steelers even used him on some frontside pulls that generated lots of yards. He, along with Maurkice Pouncey and Ramon Foster, controlled Bengals’ DT Geno Atkins, who was held to a measly two tackles.

Ben Roethlisberger: Again, don’t want to say it was Roethilsberger’s best day but it was a good one. Quick, efficient with the football. The deep ball looked good and he was as effective in scramble drills as he’s been in any game this season. Helped draw the Bengals’ offsides twice, too, something he’s done with surprising regularity this season. Several high degree of difficulty throws, my favorite being the corner route to AB vs Cover 2. That was a dart.

Joe Haden: Strong performance by the secondary as a whole but special mention to Haden, who tabbed his first INT as a Steeler, a pretty deflection he stole off AJ Green’s back. Green, by the way, was nearly shut down, held to only three catches.

Sean Davis: That was the breakout game we’ve been waiting Davis to have since he became a Steeler. A forced fumble and breakup that led to another INT on the day. In this defense, the strong safety has to make splash plays and Davis produced that today. Physical, violent, smart. All on tape Sunday.

TJ Watt/Bud Dupree: Credit to both, who both notched a sack on Andy Dalton and generated several more pressures. Stunts were effective. Also liked Watt’s chase from the backside when the ball went away from him. Good effort by both.

Chris Boswell: Kickers are people, too. Especially The Boz, who went a cool 5/5. Came in clutch when the offense stalled.

Robert Golden: For that sweet deep ball to DHB on the fake punt. Heady play, great execution. And some big….guts to heave that ball.

LOSERS

Alejandro Villanueva: He seemed to do well as a run blocked but allowed penetration on one of the many failed third and ones today. Carl Lawson, a rookie, had success against him as a pass rusher, too. Villanueva hasn’t been all bad but too uneven.

Chris Hubbard: Hubbard, meanwhile, seemed to consistently struggled. The length and size of Carlos Dunlap gave him predictable fits and he struggled to keep the pocket in the pass game and get a push in the run. He’s a valuable asset as the backup swing guy but can obviously get exposed if plugged into a more long-term starting role.

Todd Haley/3rd and short: The Steelers’ offense had their best day of the season but it should’ve been so much more. Pittsburgh could’ve put this one out of hand by the third quarter. Instead, it was close throughout. A large reason was an ineffective red zone offense and dreadful job on 3rd and 1.

The Steelers ran four plays on 3rd and 1. They didn’t convert on a single one. Haley tried multiple ways to convert. But none worked. Both areas need to get better. And it starts with the OC.

Goal Line Defense: Which was just as bad. On the year, the Steelers’ goal line defense has been on the field for five snaps. They’ve given up five touchdowns. Tyler Matakevich or LJ Fort was responsible for this one, very similar to what happened Week Three in Chicago.

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  • #7

    Frankly I don’t see any “losers” on a day like today. Sure, some things could have been better obviously, but this was a pretty dominant win and all 3 units of the team had a hand in it.

  • JT

    Losers: Bengals fans. Not only were they complaining about his Knix kick being passed around the internet, because it was an unfair smear campagin to model citizen Burfict. But I saw many also complaining in response that Lawrence Timmons kneed Dalton and it wasn’t getting the same treatment. Timmons. Not only did they think Law Dawg still played here, but somehow looked at the monster currently wearing #94 and just thought Timmons spent a lot of time at Hoss’s in the off-season.

    I loathe the Ravens, but can tolerate and even respect some of their fans. But Bengals fans are just dumb, whiny, and pathetic. Take the L and go home.

  • Arthur Branch

    I give Hubbard a bit of a pass. There is no way we should think he would be able to block Dunlap one on one all day. That’s more coaching to me.

  • Pretty dominant win today. Cincy has a pretty good defense and they were embarrassed today. I don’t think I would put the tackles on the losers list when Ben wasn’t sacked at all today but whatever.

    Still some things to work on, redzone offense, I’m looking at you.

    This Defense is for real, another 4 sacks, and 2 ints in big moments of the game. Special teams even made a few plays today.

    All 3 phases getting it done today.

    Key underrated stat = 1 penalty for 5 yards.

  • JT

    People will still want Tomlin and Haley fired, because we can’t have nice things.

  • ilamarca

    “That’s Sammie’s replacement not mines”

    JuJu took both guys spots. Couldn’t be more impressed by the 20 year old. And that TD celebration was definitely a winner as well.

  • Hagen Rinde

    and exactly why is AB returning punts? PR game is a loser since week one.

  • #7

    And Ben replaced

  • A credit to Cincy’s defense. They stiffened when they needed to, unfortunately for them it wasn’t enough.

  • Chris92021

    More winners and losers:
    Winner: Keith Butler. I still don’t fully trust Butler but man, his unit played lights out in the 2nd half. That same Bengals offense that converted all those 3rd downs and looked sharp in the first half looked like they had no answers because our D played like they had something to prove. Dalton got so frustrated he threw the ball away on a 4th down and he took a knee after getting the ball back with 38 seconds left. That was beautiful.

    Loser: the officials. They missed a pass interference call (Jackson held and turned AB in the end zone) and I am betting they also screwed up the timeout issue at the end of the 1st half. Glad it did not cost us the game but man, that is bad even for the NFL.

    Todd Haley is mentioned already but my goodness, he is untrustworthy. The Steelers played a solid game but I would not go so far as to call it a “complete game”. No, because Haley is still an issue.

    Martavis Bryant is also a loser. He only touched the ball twice and got like 4 total yards. He could not locate the ball on the one deep shot we threw to him. JuJu Smith-Schuster might not have Bryant’s freakish athletic ability but JuJu is already a better football player. Now I bet Rapaport is going to report that Bryant wants a trade again after Rapaport talks with Bryant’s baby mama.

    Great win. 3-0 in the division. Now let’s finish 6-2 before the bye week!

  • capehouse

    Bell and the O line are the winners. Everyone else was so-so.

    Losers? Goal line defense. Terrible. I just don’t understand putting Matakevich and Fort on the field. It’s ridiculously insane to keep expecting it to work. Just stop. Another package to get rid of is Watson and the short yardage offense. Taking Bell off the field for a scrub is just dumb.

  • Patrick Donovan

    Why we continued to take Nix out on short yardage was very confusing

  • #7

    Yep. They have a pretty good D and they get paid too!

  • Chris92021

    Because Haley is a genius.

  • I’m sure the complaining about Haley’s/Ben’s redzone play calling will show up at some point. The bottom line is we won and won big (2 scores).

  • JT

    Mostly agree. But getting sick and tired of AV being beat inside. Other than the disappearance of Marty B, by far the biggest disappointment for me on the season. Has to be better down the stretch.

  • Phil Brenneman II

    I want to add William Gay to the winners list this week.

    1. He got an INT
    2. He has the longest active streak amongst defensive players for games started in a row
    3. This is a guy who overcame being someone we thought of of like we do Antwon Blake to someone we now talk about like maybe an Ike Taylor. And he continues to produce and be a great Steeler.

    So props to Big Play Willie Gay who went from ashy to classy according to us Steelers fans.

  • CP72

    Yes. Why go a 3 grouping? Line Rosie up in the eye and he’ll take care of the rest.

  • Taylor Williams

    Haley’s playcalling is unacceptable period. Can’t keep teams in the game that long.

  • John Pennington

    Put Burns in loser for not helping tackling today once again.Still stands around watching oh he gave a shoulder bump if you call that helping out tackling.He just dont want to tackle at all and it shows.Loser.

  • StolenUpVotes

    Might as well stay regular vs heavy sets in goal to go situations. Trying to match personnel obviously is not working lol

  • I don’t know what game you watched, but from what I saw this defense put Cincy away in the second half…

  • #7

    Losers: Anyone who watches the super bowl halftime show. Timberlake? Yeah good call NFL :/

  • WB Tarleton

    Re: Third/Fourth and short

    We have a huge QB, an all world center and guard, and seemingly no QB sneak in the playbook. Convert on even a couple of those and the short yardage run game will open up for the backs as well.

  • JT

    Ruining Tyler’s shot at the HoF.

  • #7

    The play action to the TE works against us every single time. For some reason we never seem to try it.

  • WB Tarleton

    Loser: The celebration

    Hate it. Be exuberant. Be spontaneous. Stop with the pre-meditated BS.

  • Roberto Vaquero Bazán

    Incredible, right?

  • StolenUpVotes

    Same damn play has killed us for 20 years. Literally the same play every time. A guy to the flats. TE to the corner

  • SMH, Burns put in a solid effort in a pass defense that allowed 140 net passing yards…

  • #7

    Lol yup. Never stop it. A team running anything else is doing us a favor

  • StolenUpVotes

    Even got us in the last SB we won lol

  • StolenUpVotes

    Just don’t ask him to tackle running backs. He ain’t interested in it

  • WB Tarleton

    Everything that goes well is because of “.”

    Everything that goes wrong is always Tomlin/Colbert/Haley, or “Tombertley.”

  • LHW

    Marv Lewis on the loser the list. Poor guy.

  • Michael Pennant

    When is the Steelers DEFENSE going to get some love for the performance in the last 15/16 games? Sure they have given up some big plays but overall they have been beastly.

  • Conserv_58

    Loser(s): Bengals
    Winners: Steelers

  • Taylor Williams

    I say let them do it. As long as it’s not too long.

    I hate taking the emotion out of the team. See when we shut down the Bengals? We took the emotion out of them, they stopped caring.

  • I don’t know about you, but I don’t want a 34 year old Ben taking any unnecessary shots, that includes 3rd/4th and short sneaks.

  • Michael James

    Fully agree. Yes, I don’t like the Ravens, but I do have a lot of respect for that franchise, their way of playing and even some of their fans. None of that applies to Cincy. They are just loud and whiny.

  • #7

    What a weird complaint after a game like today

  • Chad Weiss

    Alu alu, and gay both winners, Tomlin,Bryant,and refs losers

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Not trying start waves after a sweet game, but I’m putting Martavis Bryant on the losers list. He has to show us a friggin sign! Let me feel your friggin pulse! You still want this, right!? I’m not giving up on buddy, but he was supposed to be the missing piece!

  • John

    Good point. You tend to have a good red zone offense when you have a high quality TE in the middle or a big WR that knows how to use his body. We are 0-2 on those unfortunately. The shifty RB out of the backfield helps. Bell is a quality pass catcher but he isn’t quite that. Or the OL can run block great and we can run it in. Still hoping for improvement but maybe missing a piece or two.

  • Neither was Dion Sanders, that didn’t stop him from making it to the HoF. And he played in the run first era.

    Not comparing Burns to Sanders, just saying.

  • Sdale

    Romo had an interesting observation about the 3rd/4th and short plays…they were all run out of the same/similar formation. That’s one reason I would call out Haley for not closing these guys out. We’re just not taking advantage of having a multiple threat offense if we’re in that formation.

  • Lambert58

    Fort missed that TD.

  • #7

    Yeah I agree. He’s been disappointing so far. Hopefully he gets it going in December and January.

  • Taylor Williams

    Looks like the old Steel curtain I fell in love with. First round picks doing their job.

    I’ve been blaming the offense this entire year. The D is top 5. No excuses this year.

  • francesco

    Sean Davis has surpassed Artie Burns in my mind.
    Steelers still having problems in the red zone and stopping the other teams once in the redzone.

  • Michael Pennant

    Ben did not get sacked. running game 150+ yards, what’s the problem? Stop the damn nitpicking and give the opponent some credit especially against backups.

  • Big Joe

    Yeah, it was Fort that blew the coverage on the 2nd TD. But once the D stayedin their lanes and protected their gaps, man what a 2nd half job. Proud of them

  • Taylor Williams

    Haley isn’t using him correctly. He’s a YAC guy.
    Throw him slants and curls.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Yeah, like alot of ppl said already we need to let him run some slants to work the middle of the field! He has to much talent!

  • Sdale

    Second game in a row that Matakevich blew that play. Both he and Fort bit on the run, but it was exactly the same play that Dirty Red was burned on last week.

  • On a day when the Steelers are 15 point victors, someone says Tomlin should still be on the losers list, mind blowing…

  • #7

    I’m far from a Tomlin mark but a loser? Today? No.

  • ND_Steel

    Loser…TD Celebration…Hide and Go Seek…with the goal post…SMH….

  • Mike C.

    Winner: Steelers medical report. Almost halfway through the season and the lineup is mostly intact (knock on wood). With all of the recent playoff runs that have been derailed due to injuries to key players, I’m really stoked regarding their health.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    True, but obviously he’s not showing it in practice either, because JuJu taking snaps!

  • Generic Steelers Fan

    Deep pass on a third and one? Todd Haley needs to be run out of town. I’m so sick of this. FIRE HIM!!

  • StolenUpVotes

    When Burns’ is scoring TDs and on a HOF trajectory due to him absolutely locking guys down I’ll put a little more stock in that comment. DBs are pass first players, but they play an important role in run fits. Guy has to start playing football at some point.

  • WB Tarleton

    40 year old Tom Brady does them almost every week.

  • Michael Pennant

    Let’s look to next years draft to strengthen some weaknesses. QB if available, if not TE, LB, RB and speed.

  • Shannon Stephenson

    Loser: Vontaze Burfict who with his antics could see his season cut short. Hehehehehehe.

  • #7

    The team should be disbanded

  • And when he gets hurt, the NE fans will be wondering why they still let him do it.

    But aside from that, his injury history is much, much less substantial then Ben’s.

  • Generic Steelers Fan

    No, Ben needs to be calling his own plays

  • JT

    Ben not taking the check dahns. Put Golden in on 3rd and short.

  • Shannon Stephenson

    Not sure about the HB but agree with the rest.

  • Taylor Williams

    I’ll take a new OC. And safety before RB.

  • Reg Sayhitodabadguy Hunt

    agreed except for toml8n

  • Pack

    I want to really applaud Butler with his half time adjustment defense was playing light out I the second half. I would definely put him on my winners list.

  • Shannon Stephenson

    so he can pass it every down…no thank you

  • Whatever man, some guys will nitpick everything, even in dominant wins. Let me ask you a question, how much of this season have you enjoyed so far? Because you are here every Sunday night complaining about something…

  • Generic Steelers Fan

    Another loser is Tomlin and Shazier. Shazier was out of position a lot, and that’s tomlins fault.

    I say we move Shazier to safety or to tight end that’ll free him up to roam the field like Troy (rip) did.

    Do that and we’ll go undefeated on the way to #7!!!!

  • #7

    Maybe the Steelers weren’t lying when they said they know how to beat the Pats. The way you beat them is with better players.

  • Pack

    😂😂😂😂😂 thank you

  • Generic Steelers Fan

    You’re right. Last thing I wanna see is Ben with the ball in his hands in crucial situations.

    And that’s on Haley.

  • Ross McCorkle

    Idk if we were watching the same game? Shazier had a bunch of great plays. Tomlin did nothing wrong. Will steelers nation ever be satisfied?

  • DirtDawg1964

    Wait. Is this a satirical post? Can’t be real. Because it’s too dumb to be real.

  • Taylor Williams

    Not enough. You gotta be smarter. Ask the Falcons and Seahawks.

  • Mutatedgenome

    Spot on with 3rd and short. Complete buffoon.

  • Pack

    This is literally the most trolling post I’ve ever seen relax this how some people get off.

  • My sides are busting! The satire is killing me!

  • John Pennington

    The man tackles no one put I guess thats ok.Remember the Bears game.He didnt help out again tackling today.

  • #7

    No you beat them with a legit pass rush. They appear to have that now.

  • Generic Steelers Fan

    😎😎

  • The profile was made to make fun of the over analytical, high expectations, roller coaster riding, fire the entire staff croud.

  • Ross McCorkle

    edit: just saw his username. I get it now :-p

  • DirtDawg1964

    Awesome. Love it.

  • Jaybird

    Loser : the entire team and coaching staff for not getting two plays off with 12 seconds and goal to go. How did no one call a Time Out?
    But that’s about it, great game otherwise.

  • Darth Blount 47

    You pretty well nailed it this week. Good list.

    Winners: Bell. Over 190 total yards. We go as he goes. Oh, by the way, he’s worth 15 mill a season. He was right and many were wrong. Time to face that fact.

    Ben. The field General. Reports of his demise were greatly exaggerated. Told ya’ll.

    O-Line. Ben wasn’t touched and Bell had the holes. These guys are good. And that is without Gilbert. Can’t wait till they are a fully healthy and rockin’ unit again.

    Defense. Why single one guy out? They ALL seemed to flow as one. Great performance.

    Boswell. Can we pay this man as well already???? Geesh.

    Losers: Todd Haley’s brain. 3rd and 1 and Red Zone continue to be befuddling. Man, we sure are choosing to run Bell into the ground early, aren’t we, Todd?

    Burfict. Just saw a replay of two of his antics during the game. Yep, a suspension is likely coming. See ya, sucka.

    The AFC North. Man, this is a bad division. Glad we are like rising cream among these marshmallows.

    The doubters/haters/naysayers/fair-weather fans. 5 – 2 going into a winnable next couple of games and our Bye. If my optimism hasn’t been enough to keep some of you on board through it all, keep coming back and drinking from the well. Hope springs eternal!

    #StairwayTo7
    #Hero’sQuest

  • JT

    The only thing funnier than these posts, is the people that don’t get it.

  • ND_Steel

    Loser…rest of AFC Central…put another game on the whole lot. If ever there is a year we should be able to get a playoff bye it is this year.

  • Whom ever it is is now my favorite poster!

  • Generic Steelers Fan

    Bingo 😎

  • Sdale

    I am assuming the same thing there. I was going to ask Alex on one of the Thursday Mailbags if he would break down in the games whether he was open or not on the plays. I.e. is he really not getting open on those types of patterns? Are they never running him on those types of routes? Has he just not developed as a route runner, so he’s not selling routes? I just can’t understand how this guy can’t be open on back shoulder fades, slants, and especially posts. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him run a post, but it might just be me not looking.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Sarcastic level over 9000!

  • Taylor Williams

    Seahawks and Falcons had a legit pass rush. Heck we had a good pass rush at the end of last year and still lost.

  • Sam Clonch

    Maybe we get another “wardrobe malfunction”???

  • WB Tarleton

    I’d love to know how many QBs you can name that were substantially injured on a QB sneak. I guarantee you that play for play, QBs are many times more likely to get injured on a pass play from a sack than from falling forward.

  • Shannon Stephenson

    and when Ben is hurt because all we do is pass then you will be saying why is Ben calling his own plays.

  • Generic Steelers Fan

    D@MN RIGHT!

  • #7

    Not really. We’re getting heat with 4 man rushes this year. Last year? Not often, if ever.

  • You are probably right, but I’m still not subjecting Ben to unnecessary hits. Especially win Bell in the back field. We’ll agree to disagree.

  • GravityWon

    Red zone offense is the only loser. Martavis is 6-4. Why haven’t we thrown more passes to him or the outlaw

  • Shannon Stephenson

    We have been built to beat the Pats and other spread offenses. If you notice we have problems with smash mouth teams that wear down our fast, quick defense.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Also add Bell stiff arms to the winner’s list. He laid some guys out today.
    Rock-a-Bye Baby!

  • JT

    Pay. The. Man. We don’t need to be the Browns sitting here watching Watson and Wentz make us look silly. You don’t let talent like #26 slip away.

    I generally agree the OL stuff is overblown, but I’ll continue to worry about AV until he stops getting beat like a drum inside. But is there anything more beautiful than seeing Pouncey running stride for stride with Bell down the field? Brings tears to my eyes.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Honestly, I was going to put him on mine, but just in case he (or his girlfriend) reads this late at night, I didn’t want to hurt or shake his confidence anymore than it is clearly already shaken. I’m so saddened by the fact that we haven’t gotten him involved at a level I think he’s capable of being at. But, we are 5-2, so no complaints I guess.

  • WB Tarleton

    The nonsense had nothing to do with the Bengals losing their emotion. Besides, a pre-meditated move is the exact opposite of “emotion.” Emotion is spontaneous and comes in the moment. It is not thought about three days before the game and planned out with your teammates.

  • DirtDawg1964

    Yep.

  • Generic Steelers Fan

    At least you won’t be seeing anymore of those Todd Haley screens that NEVER WORK

  • DirtDawg1964

    Doesn’t shake hands after coming out as a captain and then kicks Nix in the head. He’s a special kind of moronic.

  • #7

    Yeah seems as though that’s what they’ve transitioned to. So far, it’s promising. Most teams either don’t have the patience or the ability to stick to a smash mouth game plan

  • Darth Blount 47

    A Timberlake wardrobe malfunction? That should help bring some of the female fanbase back. Lol.

  • steelburg

    I can’t for the life of me figure out why they play dirty red and Fort on goal line. They take out guys that have been playing all game in Vince and Shazier to go with to guys who are cold. But all in all it was a good win. But I really wish they would stop doing that it’s been happening all they way back when they had Garvin who also was on the goal line unit.

  • Generic Steelers Fan

    You and me are on the same page! We think exactly alike!

  • May a suspension is forth coming for the Nix kick? If you ask Marvin Lewis, I’m sure he’s concocting some kind of crazy excuse to why he shouldn’t be fined/suspended. It’s no wonder why they he the world’s only #escaLOSER in their home stadium.

  • Shannon Stephenson

    we didn’t have the corners to cover, I feel we do now with Burns, Haden, Hilton and Gay with guys like Davis and Shazier who can cover

  • Sdale

    It sure looks as though as long as they play assignment/gap sound against the run, this is and will continue to be a very good D.

  • Reg Sayhitodabadguy Hunt

    loser NIX for not being part of that 3rd and 1 disaster

    winner NIX for not being part of that 3rd and 1 disaster

  • He was the one who uncovered Janet’s boob so many moons ago. They need to ditch this pop music crap. Go back to classic rock. I hate country music but even that would probably be a better show. But I don’t watch the SB halftime show anyway. Usually reloading beer and food while unloading excess fluids.

  • Ichabod

    Agree, but he doesn’t look fast and he has been falling as soon as he’s touched.
    I thought he was supposed to be much stronger

  • #7

    Brady just threw behind his receiver into double coverage on 3rd down. McDaniels needs to be fired and the Garappolo era needs to begin. – Generic Pats fan

  • Darth Blount 47

    Added!

  • Taylor Williams

    That’s because we have a top 5 D. That doesn’t mean the offense should stink up the place.
    A good smash mouth team still posses a threat

  • Generic Steelers Fan

    I’m right there with you, Chad.

    Time to can the big man.

  • StillersInThe6

    I’m so tired of Todd Haley trying so hard to be clever and unorthodox in obvious situations (3rd and 1 or near the goal-line, etc.) – he seems to fail at these 80+% of the time. It sickens me.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Watch that replay! Bell stiff arms Dre Kirkpatrick so hard he bounces back up like the inflatable clowns with the round bottoms! 😂😂😂

  • Shannon Stephenson

    the problem with this is that under Arians we had the same problem…is this a Ben thing?

  • Darth Blount 47

    He dribbled his head like a basketball!

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    So true! Feel bad for even discussing it! It’s so out there tho! I’m way to excited to be mad for once!

  • Shannon Stephenson

    What kills me is that the team named him a captain…really!? I would be embarressed to be a Bengal fan if that was my team….unbelieveable.

  • Darth Blount 47

    We won that Detroit Super Bowl when it was The Rolling Stones. I still consider that one of the all-time best EVER!

  • StillersInThe6

    I don’t really recall it as much to be honest. I feel this whole unorthodox offense came along with Haley. He gets so much credit yet we have top NFL talents at multiple positions. He seems to do more to hinder this offense than help it. But yeah I suppose we don’t know 100% as to who’s to blame.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    I think his only td was a post. (Could have been a slant) I can’t remember!

  • The offense put up a 400+ total yard outing and rung up the scoreboard for 29 points.

    Yes, the redzone offense continues to need some elbow grease but the offense stinking up the place is hyperbole at it’s best.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    It’s starting to look we are finally getting a grip on run defense too!

  • StolenUpVotes

    Me? Not really. I talk about things that need improvement, but that’s just the coach in me. I don’t nitpick. I understand the peaks and valleys that come with the season. I have never said Artie didn’t play well in the passing game tonight. He did from a live watch perspective. I just pointed to something that needs improvement. Go steeleds. Top seed in the AFC after 7

  • Shannon Stephenson

    It was terrible under Arians thus why he was let go. It did get better under Haley but this year it has been bad, well at least the red zone, and needs to be fixed in order to see a true Superbowl type team IMO.

  • The Tony

    Some people are never satisfied.

  • Applebite

    Hey, Alex…
    Is there any reason why Haley isn’t using Bryant on anything other than bubble screens?

  • The Tony

    Who would you like to see? JT is gonna kill it

  • Chad Sanborn

    agreed. Let him get in space and use his speed. Hit im in stride on slants. Run him out of the slot instead of out wide all the time. Its not rocket science.

  • The Tony

    Why Tomlin? I think you mean Haley

  • Applebite

    This was the fear that I highlighted after he was drafted. That he could replace pretty much all of them. But, I have to be honest, it’s as if Haley isn’t even trying to use Bryant in any meaningful way this year.

  • John A Stewart

    Haley’s best play calling is only good against KC

  • StillersInThe6

    I’m pretty sure the redzone was bad last year too if I’m not mistaken. It seems to always be a problem with Haley. He tries to get cute in the redzone when the logical obvious plays would probably have been successful and have worked all game.

  • I thin the redzone offense needs more improvement then Burns’s run support. lol

  • Chad Sanborn

    Its weird because he always get 1-1 matchups and AB is always double teamed. Yet AB is the one who get open. I think It’s mostly play calling though. He is almost always out wide on the right and pretty much just runs down the field. Just go routes. I can’t fault him too much. He isn’t put in a position to succeed.

  • Chad Sanborn

    I wonder if he can teach Haley how to make adjustments and how the playbook works.

  • If you watch other games you see other teams have similar problems in the redzone. The field is more compact allowing for tighter coverage and smaller throwing windows. Also that allows defenses to stack the box against the run without sacrificing space behind them.

  • I don’t know about that, if it was always so bad under Haley, they wouldn’t have gone for 2 with such a high success rate a few years ago. I think that’s why we aren’t seeing the 2 point try at all right now.

  • Hawkeye

    To me another clear loser were some of the coaching decisions. I couldn’t believe on the 4th and goal touchdown, both backup linebackers Fort and Mataketivich in the game. Where was Shazier? I believe that play could’ve been different had he been in there.

  • T R

    did u see how bad Bryant has been getting open and that pass he could not even locate ball. i think its Bryant not Haley or Ben..

  • Chad Sanborn

    hahaha he literally bounces him off the turf.

  • T R

    lol @ AFC Central. aint heard that in long time. showed your age. lol

  • Chad Sanborn

    AFC North perhaps?

  • StolenUpVotes

    It does but the context of the conversation was not about the red zone offense. It was about Bruns’ effort in getting guys on the ground

  • Jason Vancil

    Are we going to just ignore faking a punt from your own 45, up 12 with 6 minutes to go? It worked, but I saw no good logic in that play.

  • Ray

    Honestly, it’s a skill that guys like Brady and even Brees are very good at. Ben is not and has never been very good at it

  • #7

    The Bengals were not going to score on this defense again today no matter where they started from.

  • sixnine

    can somebody give the second ranked defense some credit please.Cincinnati is no slouch on defense, they make plays also.We tried different ways to pick up those short yardadge situations and was stopped by a very stingy defense.If we had passed 4 times or run 4 times we would still be complaining that Haley called a bad game, you guys would have to see the Steelers go 19-0, ranked num 1 in defense and offense before you stop calling for our coaches to be fired! Geez!

  • Michael Mosgrove

    Mike Mitchell loser.

  • #7

    Lol the Falcons are absolutely awful at situational football

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    The joy of fake punts!

  • Jaybird

    I still call em the AFC Central sometimes also! And I still call the Titans the Oilers every now and then also.

  • Chad Sanborn

    Going for 2 was a numbers game that Tomlin was sold on. Since you only have to be successful half the time to equal the same amount kicking Extra Points each time. And since they moved the EP back some yards I guess he figured why not try. But since our RZ playbook has like 2 plays in it, we were doomed.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    I’m really afraid to say he may be shutting down…

  • Zarbor

    Best I’ve seen Ben all year. Made one of the best throws to AB that only a handful of QBs can make all year. I also was with Ben when he seem upset on that STUPID play call by Haley to run the ball without giving him a shot to pass it in for a TD before the half. Just asinine. If anyone wants to know what the problem is with the offense……Haley. My loser of the game.

    BTW, just because Golden made a good pass to HeyBey for a big play doesn’t make it a good call. The play call was STUPID. Just because it worked out doesn’t make it a good call. If that play did not work, it would have put the team into possibly another nail biter putting them way into our territory.

  • #7

    I’m not ready to go there yet. I’m willing to wait and see how he does down the stretch and into the playoffs when we’re REALLY gonna need him to show.

  • StillersInThe6

    you mean when we took out the NFL’s best RB on 3rd and 1?

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Yeah I hate to even say it, because a big game could end this talk!

  • Doug Andrews

    Is this Offense becoming the other teams best defense. Seems they just let teams hang around and hang around instead of putting em away. I’ll take the win but the offense always seem to make the games closer than they seem. Great job by the defense and ST’s

  • Chad Sanborn

    None of us know what its like in the locker room. And perhaps its easier to be traded than to face the team as that means facing the fact you let them down the last few years over drugs. Its easier to play bad ask to be traded to get a fresh start where you hope you can do better. Though really thats just running away from the problem and avoiding the guilt. But thats just my guess.

  • 2winz

    we won against the bengals with the bad redzone and 3rd and short play calling.. but against superior teams, would that be acceptable? most of the time.. no! it was a good win so i cant complain, i only care that we won, but at the same time, i hope this team can continue to improve

  • StillersInThe6

    To be clear, I’m not upset about redzone problems, I’m upset about unorthodox play calling and trying to be cute or a genius when bland and obvious would’ve probably worked

  • SouthernSteel

    Bud “no production” Dupree on winners?? He missed 2 easy sacks b4 he finally got one…play after play he just runs past the play…hope that sack is a sign of things to come…need him to play like he did at the end of last season..

  • #7

    Yeah. And he’s talented enough where it could happen at any time.

  • ND_Steel

    Anyone watching this nationally televised repeated mugging of Julio Jones?

  • Romo probably hit it right when he said that fake was all on Golden…that Golden ran it on his own after seeing DHB uncovered, and that it’s probably a special teams ‘see this, do that’ automatic audible. With DHB that wide open, three bad outcomes might have happened but were unlikely: a defender disrupts Golden while throwing, he misses badly with the pass, DHB drops it. They ran it perfectly, and it iced the game.

  • Chad Sanborn

    LOL yeah.. I would have thrown 2 PI flags by now.

  • Zarbor

    Yup…call it what it was….stupid. It worked but doesn’t make it a good call…at all.

  • Luckily football is a team game and the Steelers defense is for real. Unlike NE’s defense which is nearly dead last in almost every important category?

  • SouthernSteel

    Year off from football is a lot harder than people think…maybe 18 months…give him time…or maybe he needs weed to play like Mookie Wilson

  • I can get on board with that.

  • Jason Vancil

    If you said that to his face he would wait until you turned around and then he would dive at your knees.

  • pittfan

    A guy this early into sobriety, his head is going to be telling him all kinda things. I think his problem is upstairs and needs to settle down and become reacclimated to having a game mindset. He’s been out for a year, then thrust back into the game. He’ll be alright so long as he talks with his coaches and his support group outside of football.

  • SouthernSteel

    Two guys came out so fort and red both needed to pick someone up….

  • Carl Mendelius

    Not buying yet the Steelers as true contenders, Haley is just pathetic in the red zone,
    Martavys is not being targeted, they continue to throw a 30+ pass in 3rd and 1. Haley should be fired.

  • #7

    Oh the humanity

  • SouthernSteel

    OT or TE ….seems biggest needs so far

  • 2winz

    our defense has been great thus far but we havent rlly played a elite qb yet of brady’s caliber for me to say for sure they are for real. the most i can say is that they have for sure improved though. Pats defense may be last, but brady has beaten us with horrible defenses in the past so our offense needs to keep improving

  • sixnine

    watson is our short yardage back…he converted all his attempts this season before that reversal..which was bogus by the way..he was not down by contact or was the touch the reason he fell through the hole

  • Pack

    Can we start giving Connor MORE clean up reps? Please save Bell, he doesn’t need to be taking the any reps in the 4th when the game was ours.

  • Romel Roze

    Ben on the winners list is a joke. He may not be on the losers list but he shouldn’t be on the winners list either.

    He is the QB of an offense that struggles in the red zone. He is just as culpable as Haley for the offense redzone struggles.

    He had AB for a long TD but over threw him badly. That should have been a sure TD. Got a pass interference call on the play but kicked a FG. AB never had a chance to catch that pass….the interference was a bailout.

    Had AB again on 3rd and 1 for a TD but under throws him this time and that let’s the CB knock down the ball. Should have been pass interference but it wasn’t called. If he throws the ball early, AB runs under it for a TD. Can’t rely on non calls by the refs. It was too many plays were he was off that prevent this team from scoring TDs instead of FGs.

    The play calling in the Red zone and on short yardage is atrocious. Hopefully, the defense will continue to get better and the offense will finally hit its stride and peak going into the playoffs.

  • NCSteel

    Those who want to say it’s wrong to point out cruddy red zone efficiency will be forced to talk about it later against better teams. Yes, it was a good solid team win, good game flow and good defensive adjustments at halftime. Ben looked sharper and really dialed in at times heck even the fans had a great game but if that lousy red zone efficiency does not get fixed it will hurt this team later. I don’t want to just have a big win against Cincy. I want another championship.
    Kudos but lets not get all giddy, theres work left to do but they are improving. The defense has made great strides. Lets go red zone efficiency.

  • NCSteel

    Hey, I like where you’re going there. You are spot on.

  • Romel Roze

    Haley shouldnt be calling the plays in the Red zone. Pathetic is an understatement.

    As bad as the offense was in short yardage and the Red zone the defense had a dominant game, especially in the 2nd half.

  • NCSteel

    A team with the best running back and the best wide receiver in the league along with a top 5- 7 QB should not be having problems like that in the red zone.
    Cincy D or no Cincy D.
    It takes a little polish off of a greatwin.

  • #7

    Motörhead in a car commercial? The Pixies in a bank commercial? What is this world coming to?

  • Romel Roze

    Thank you. When the defense constsntly gives the offense the ball and all they do is kick 5 FGs in the second half that is a problem.

  • NinjaMountie

    Good list. I’d probably leave Hubbard and AV off of the list. Struggling doesn’t mean loser. The OL didn’t give up a sack and had a dominant rushing attack. Still, that’s just splitting hairs on my part.
    Haley, on the other hand, has officially landed in my doghouse and he’ll be on my loser list every game until we win a SB and then I still wouldn’t let his shadow touch me for fear of catching his stupidity.
    He didn’t need to try different things on 3rd and 1!!! The strength of the Offense is running the ball. You put your best RB and his FB out there every time! If the stop it once, you do it again. If the stop it again, then by God you do it again. If they stop it again……you get the idea.

  • Sdale

    I thought it was a slant.

  • NinjaMountie

    I’m still saying it’s 90% on Haley.

  • Joeybaggadonuts

    Watt’s sack seemed to spark Bud, who had 2 sacks (I believe) after Watt’s. This could be the beginning of a friendly competition.

  • Romel Roze

    The biggest problem so far this year is the idiots that want to give Bell over 30 carries a game. Is James Conner trash? If not give him the damn ball more. Why draft him with a 3rd round pick if he cannot help spell Bell.

    By the time the playoffs start they would have run the wheels off of Bell. Tomlin is an idiot.

  • NinjaMountie

    Are you going to ignore the many great throws he had? How about the awesome throw to McDonald in the EZ that was dropped. You’re being harsh and unfair with his performance.

  • #7

    It’s not wrong to point it out, although it’s obvious. 29 points should be good enough to beat anybody the way this D is playing though, efficient in the RZ or not.

  • WB Tarleton

    How do we know that? When was his last sneak?

  • #7

    Ben stinks. Bring back Dennis Dixon

  • NinjaMountie

    I miss ole Dennis. He’s second only to Kordell Stewart for best QB in Steelers history!!!

  • #7

    Kordell had a couple good seasons at QB. Accounted for 32 total TD’s in 97. (21 passing 11 rushing) Unfortunately he’ll always be remembered by most for throwing away 2 AFC title games. Painful memories both of them.

  • NinjaMountie

    I still wouldn’t pay him 15 mill a season. No way…no how.

  • PaeperCup

    Offense provides the opportunity for 5 FGs. 5 FGs > 5 punts. Offense in general
    deserves some credit.

    Redzone offense is a mess.

  • PaeperCup

    this….facts always lost in conversation. Cincy D isn’t half bad.

  • ND_Steel

    Overstating a bit, especially at the end, but I agree, makes no sense Conner is not getting more touches. It is like they are afraid to hurt Bell’s feelings with his contract situation and all.

  • NinjaMountie

    Honestly, I liked Kordell. I would have liked him more if he had stayed in his Slash role. He still isn’t the worst QB we’ve ever had, though.

  • Romel Roze

    That was a good throw by Ben, because he tried to throw McDonald open. It wasn’t an easy catch to spin back the opposite way you are running to make that catch, but a pass that could have been caught by a better player. If you want harsh I can start talking about the other passes he missed that should have been easy completions but he let the DB make a play because of his inaccuracy.

    The point I was making is he is not sharp and the Red zone offense is not good. Hopefully, the defense can dominate the rest of the year until the offense clicks.

  • Darth Blount 47

    You are about to be in the minority my friend.

  • #7

    I liked him too. He was a unique talent in his time. Thought he gave our offense something no one else had at that time. He’d be much more highly regarded if not for those AFCCG failures.

  • NinjaMountie

    I admit Ben hasn’t been at his greatest this season. However, he was pretty solid this game…pretty darn solid. Saying it’s a joke him being on the winners list is harsh.

  • Romel Roze

    This coach seem to be stuck on stupid. How in the hell do you not understand that giving Bell that many touches is just not good for later in the season.

    If Bell is sooo damn important to the team success and he has to carry the team on his back, then how do you justify not paying him. Just idiotic.

    Too many carries is just not good. The next man up crap is just stupid when you are causing the next man to have to step up.

  • Romel Roze

    Ben is just as culpable as Haley for the teams redzone offense. If the redzone offense doesnt count/matter then put Ben on the winners list.

  • Bill

    Ben needs to look more at those not named Brown.

  • AndyR34

    Needs elbow grease? I don’t know…red zone might as well be the Bermuda Triangle as far as Steelers O is concerned. The red zone is the place the Steelers offense goes to die.

  • AndyR34

    2009?

  • Carlos Martínez

    Dupree couldn’t finish the 1st, but he wanted his own sack and got it.

  • DSG

    I’d put artie burns on the list for his intense aversion to tacking

  • Charles Mullins

    He got hurt a couple years ago sneaking the ball and that was the end of it.

  • DSG

    Also, i’ve been super critical of ben but i thought he played pretty well but red zone problems persist. It would be nice if it didnt take until game 7 for our qb to have a good game

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    You right!

  • WB Tarleton

    Pretty close. I found one from 2010. He scored a TD on third and one against the Panthers.

  • Lil Smitty

    I’ve noticed that the refs are not throwing as many flags for illegal contact or holding, so there is a lot more holding and pulling down in the red zone. This would lead to less scoring in the rezone.

  • Max

    I thought this was Ben’s best game of the year. Threw the ball accurately and with touch. He’s not done!

  • WB Tarleton

    There was nothing wrong with the run play there.

    The crime was letting five seconds run off so there was no time to run one more play before a FG attempt.

  • NinjaMountie

    I don’t agree with you there. I think it’s mostly play calling.

  • SteelersDepot Commenter

    Even Tony Romo said himself during that game that the #1 thing that determines our score isn’t the opponent’s defense, it’s OUR offense that’s holding us back from scoring 30+ ppg (which hasn’t happened in our last 8 games). The LA Rams have the #1 scoring offense in the league to our 22nd status. We have the best offense (in terms of talent) in the league, and we are 13th in the league in Offensive YPG.

    Todd Haley is very good at moving the ball, but he is, given the talent we have, the worst scorer in the NFL. Football games are won by whoever has the most POINTS, not the most TALENT. Kieth Butler has the 6th lowest scoring defense in the NFL, which he does with significantly less talent.

    Great win and the team is looking very formidable, but Todd Haley benefited from a stellar defensive performance and getting saved by Chris Boswell.

  • Obi Ryn Denobi

    I’m not sure I’d put Bell’s ‘stiff arm’ (More like bitch slap!), quite in the ‘dirty’ (More funny as hell!) category. Any back who’s had his knees deliberately targeted and his season ended in consecutive games, in consecutive seasons by the same old mistaking dirty for tough Bungles, NEEDS to do whatever it takes to defend them from serial punks! I rather tend to put this one against THESE guys in that ‘self-defense’ category! (That and joining my AB ‘stiff foot’ on Browns punter as my favorite new screensaver!!!)

    I saw, although both refs and announcers ignored as usual, two horse-collar tackles (Both back-of-the-head slam downs!) in the second half on back-to-back plays, I believe one on LeVeon and the other on JuJu that should have been fifteen each! Concussion protocol on both this week should not be a surprise.

    David has become a BEAST! One guy at least must have gotten back up wearing tread marks!

    Good to see Bud get on the board. He needed it. And more soon. ‘Starting’ pass rushers whose backup leads him 3-0 in sacks tend to be in the ‘not for long’ category. He needs to heat up!

  • Mister Wirez

    Is Ben afraid to sneak 1 stinking foot? My God he’s 6′-5″ 250. He could have fell forward for a yard. I see Brady doing it at least once a game. Come on guys..

  • Obi Ryn Denobi

    Last time he did that, we got the TD and I believe Ben was out four games with a concussion and the season got trashed. I doubt Tomlin lets him!

  • Mister Wirez

    It’s the little things that make good teams great. Redzone and 3rd downs have been pretty bad, in fact I’d argue if they were better, they could be 6-1 or maybe even 7-0. In close games, it definitely matters.

    YES the D is playing very good, but really, the Steelers should have put up many more points in this one, and it’s part of the reason why they lose games to lesser teams.

    The reason people get worked up, is because its frustrating to watch, and they should be getting better at RZ and 3rd down and they aren’t really. It’s gonna cost them home field, playoff seeding, or something big if they don’t fix it quick.

  • Mister Wirez

    We’ll see in the December NE game. That’s the ultimate test!

  • Shane Mitchell

    Sean Davis breakout game? Really? More like he had a performance that you would expect out of an average starting NFL safety. He broke into the average category for a game, hip hip hooray.

  • Mister Wirez

    When he trips over a blade of grass though, the YACs aren’t coming.

  • Reader783

    haha…he was better in pass defense for sure. Still needs to work on his run fills and gap responsibility, but he’s looking better and getting better. Excited.

  • Shane Mitchell

    Yeah I reckon he might be the third best SS on our roster by the end of the season if he keeps it up.

  • Zarbor

    The crime was the dumb run playcall when your QB is finally playing well. You have better chance of taking two shots at the endzone passing the ball and still getting a FG. Running the ball when they have 8 in the box makes no sense

  • nutty32

    Wut? 28 had a very good game. u trippin’

  • nutty32

    Stiff arm being dirty has got to be a joke. Can’t image AK saying something so crazy, as he clearly actually watches games.

  • Shane Mitchell

    It only looked very good because you people are used to watching his mediocrity at the position for a year and a half, lets get real here for a second, his performance was nothing special whatsoever, kind of like the goal line stop he made last season against that skinny ass backup QB of the Colts that stumbled at the 5 yard line and people acted like it was the greatest God damn safety play of the year.

  • nutty32

    Hubbard seems to be the fan base punching bag. Seems unfair. First impressions die hard. Lot of good runs going right today & he did give up a Ben arm deflection but pretty much held his own against a pretty good pass rusher with pretty much zero help. He gave ground but still gave Ben enough room to step into throws. Not being Jackie Slater doesn’t make him a loser.

  • nutty32

    They left 88 uncovered, they had zero jammers standing with him!

  • Reader783

    Agreed. The most blatant and perhaps only loser today was the red zone offense and 3rd and short offense. If you’re gonna blame anyone, blame the entire offensive line for that. Hubbard got beat badly maybe 1 time, AV the same. I agree that 1 bad play doesn’t make you a loser.

    That would make AB a loser last week for his muffed punt, botched safety punt and botched route that caused an INT.

  • nutty32

    Nah, he was doing well with his run fills, denying cutbacks, cleaning up holes & making plays. He was very active today with his nose in the mix all over the field.

  • Reader783

    I will agree that he was exciting today in pass coverage and his presence on the field, but he definitely missed on some run fills. That one huge 25 yard Joe Mixon run was a bad fill.

  • nutty32

    Agree that he could have played that better but he was running up from a 10 yd off 2 deep look on a draw out of the pistol formation. He was coming up inside-out and Hilton was the guy coming outside-in. Hilton allowed the cut back/blocked in too far, but Davis could have indeed made an alll-pro play to save the day.

  • Matt Manzo

    I had one foot off the Dupree band wagon before the end there! He was quiet all game long until the end. I hope he can build off this!

  • Reader783

    He definitely does tend to show up for the 4th quarter! Drives fans crazy all game and turns it on late. I guess he really likes Styx…

  • Biggest loser: Martavis Bryant

    There were plenty of times we could have used his height in the passing game. I don’t understand why we didn’t. On a day where pretty much everything was clicking, we could have used him and scored maybe two more TDs and two less field goals.

  • Reader783

    So does that make him the loser or Todd Haley for putting Eli in at the goal line instead?

  • Shane Mitchell

    Nah, pretty sure if I break down the film it wont be anything special, a player doesnt change in one damn game, you people just want to believe some BS.

  • William Weaver

    Ummm.. he doesn’t start. Not actively streaking

  • I like Eli, but Martavis gives us that height advantage we are lacking from any other WR on the team. I’m hoping this whole situation with Martavis is a diabolical plan stirred-up by Mike Tomlin, and in the second half of the season we set lose our secret weapon, the duo of A.B. & M. B. lol

  • Michel Smiffi

    I think Big Al has been playing poorly for weeks now.
    Yes, he didn’t give up a sack yesterday, but all the run stuffs from the Bengals came on his side.
    That torero play on 3rd and Inches where he didn’t even bother touching his DL was probably the worst individual play by any Steeler this season.

  • capehouse

    He was in there. Its a 4-6-1 formation. They just bring in Matakevich and Fort, who are great at allowing the other team to score.

  • FATCAT716

    I don’t know ask the Chiefs

  • Jose F Bilbao

    I know I might be taking a lot of flak for saying this … but for me one of the winners was Tony Romo as a football commentator. He nailed the game for the second time in two weeks. Early on he said that the Bengals needed to run the ball in first downs to give Dalton a chance, as their O-line is not good enough to provide protection on long downs. The Bengals had a run game for most of the first half and they were competitive. As soon as the Steelers D stopped the run, the Bengals disappeared. And once they got well behind and running the ball was not an option, they completely fell apart as Dalton was under pressure time after time.

    He also nailed it on the Steelers side, when he said that “ringing the bell” was the key for the Steelers offence to get going.

    I find him to be the best commentator in football right now. He provides insights that others do not- just listen to his comments on the fake punt. He is fresh and willing to criticise- see his comments on Dalton throwing the ball out of bounds on the last 4 and long. He has the eyes of a quarterback for the game- he suggests what the next play will be by taking a pre-snap look and reading the defence. Yes, he might have been a Cowboy, but now he’s retired, he is just very very good at what he does,

  • Michael James

    He’s easily worth it.

  • melblount

    Hmmm…What other game(s) has DuPree “turn(ed) it on late?”

    If you mean in other game(s) he realized that he should at least fall on the ground once or twice and get his uni dirty late in the game(s), I get it.

  • Michael James

    Have you watched him this season? You would think he’s a YAC guy, but he clearly isn’t (anymore). He goes down at first contact every time, even when it’s only a bad ankle-tackle with minimal contact. It’s downright frustrating to be honest.

  • melblount

    It’s becoming more and more apparent that Burns graduated from the Deion Sanders school of tackling.

  • melblount

    James Conner looks very good EVERY time he touches the ball.

    Agreed. Tomlin is an idiot.

  • melblount

    So does the inexcusable loss to the Bears.

  • SilverSteel

    All those 3rd and ones. Nix was a no brainer in the I. What were we thinking? Just smash them in the mouth with the FB.

  • SilverSteel

    I just saw Brees make a sneak yesterday. Same drafting class I think. He still has it.

  • Conserv_58

    The final score should have been at least double of what it was for the Steelers. Yeah, it was a nice win, but there is no getting around the fact that going one for six in the red zone is a huge problem for a team with SB aspirations. That puts the Steelers red zone efficiency near the bottom of the league, again. There is no excuse for them to continue to be this bad in the red zone with the talent they have. Of course it comes down to play calling and execution and that’s where it gets aggrivating. It’s pretty bad when the Steelers get to the red zone and the fan base collectively tips their heads back, rolls their eyes in frustration and says to themselves, “Aw geez, the red zone.”

  • Conserv_58

    As I stated above, going one for six in the red zone against the bengals only magnified how infuriatingly pathetic this offense is when they get inside the opponent’s twenty yard line. There is no excuse for this offense to continue to be so dang inept inside the twenty yard line.

  • Conserv_58

    The red zone offense’s continued failure to score TD’s in the red zone can not be dismissed as being a minor issue. It’s been a huge problem for far too long! This game should have been decided half way through the third quarter, but as has been the case for several years now, the Steelers resemble the Keystone Cops when they get inside the opponent’s twenty. Going one for six in the red zone is absolutely pathetic.

  • SilverSteel

    I have noticed that. We are really fast and play well against fast, finesse teams like KC. Bruisers give us problems. Totally agree with that analysis.

  • will

    Artie……again worked to avoid contributing to a tackle when he thought other teammates had the tackle under control. Never have seen anything like it. Maybe Deon? Deonitis. ……that is it!

  • SilverSteel

    How many head cases can be on one team? The drama after wins is ridiculous.

  • SilverSteel

    Running from problems is an addicts “go to” emotion. That’s why they run to the quick relief instead of thinking things through. He’s still quite young emotionally. Give him time. Drugs stunt emotional growth. It shows! Agree with your post.

  • Conserv_58

    They went one for six in the red zone yesterday. If the Steelers converted those trips in the red zone into TD’s the five field goals they ended up with would have added another thirty-five points to the final score, thus giving the Steelers 64 points. I know that I don’t need to point out that scoring that many points has a demoralizing and deflating affect on the opponent. Instead, the dysfunctional Keystone Cops’, (the Steelers red zone offense) failure to score TD’s allowed the bengals to think that they could still mount a challenge.

  • ND_Steel

    Joe Haden! What a difference he’s made, can’t understate this pickup. Very happy for him.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    Romo had nailed pretty much every game he has called. Fire Haley and hire him.

  • ryan72384

    Problem number 1 with the goal line defense.. LJ Fort and Tyler Matekevich are on the field. Great special teamers and thats it.

  • Romel Roze

    Ok, so when Ben pats himself on the back by praising himself for getting the team in the right plays and making the right calls against the defense and he says it something reporter’s and fans just dont know etc., and all works well the fans give him credit. But when the play sucks it is all on the OC. Ben is not as culpable as the OC?

    Ben is partly to blame for calls and adjustments and for bad execution of the play.

    Ok, If you think he is not, we just have to disagree.

  • budabar

    Artie is making neon deon look like dick butcus

  • Phil Brenneman II

    Should be games played I think. Essentially he has never been injured.

  • ThatGuy

    Haley is bad. Should’ve had at least 50 points yesterday instead he decides to try and run out the clock with 12 min left in the 3rd.

  • Heywood Jablome

    Converting 5 field goals to 5 TDs would have only added 20 points to the Steelers total. Those drives can’t be both field goals AND TDs.

  • budabar

    He plays Corner like a track guy

  • WB Tarleton

    1) Your chances go down when the D knows what you are going to do.

    2) Ben played better overall but still weak in the red zone.

    3) We really don’t know who made the play call. They often send in a run and pass play and let Ben decide at the LOS.

    4) We have been hearing nothing but “We have the best RB in the game! Give it to him near the goal line!” for weeks. People are judging results, not play calls. (Same with the fake punt. A stupid call, successful or not, but people are cheering it because it worked.)

  • SilverSteel

    He fits in like he’s been here for years. Thrilled with the acquisition.

  • Heywood Jablome

    I don’t know. I think the Steelers have a significant amount of talent on D now. I know we all see our own players through Rose colored glasses, but – Heyward, Hargrave & Tuitt (w/ Alualu). Watt, Shazier, VW & Dupree (w/ Debo and Chickillo). Mitchell & Davis (w/ Golden). Burns & Haden (w/ Hilton & Gay – love Hilton). Look at each of those groups. Not only is there no weak spot – every one of them is in the upper echelon. Plus, there is serious quality depth in every group.

  • Stairway7

    I would add red zone to 3rd and short as failures. It’s bad when you need to kick 5 field goals.

  • Stairway7

    I was wondering why they were on the field on that play. Did they take out VW and Shazier?

  • will

    😂 😂 lol 😂

  • Zarbor

    And you trust Robert Golden to make a good enough pass at that place on the field??!!! Stupid is what stupid does!

  • Conserv_58

    Not for nothing, but I went to the official NFL site a minute ago and there is one mention of the Steelers being the #1 seed in the AFC. There is, however, not one mention of or video of their game against the Bengals. Really? The NFL web site is run by losers.

  • Zarbor

    1. Nonsense. The D had 8 in a box and expecting the run.

    2. Nonsense. To put the weak team Redzone on Ben is stupid. Play calling is the biggest reason and penalties is the other.

    3. Utter Nonsense. We know who made the play call. Ben clearly stated after the game Haley changed the play.

    4. Urrrh, What?!.

  • Reader783

    Well I mean that is my opinion that I can only prove by re-watching game film, but his sack against the Ravens did come in the 4th quarter as well. It also intuitively makes sense that late in games when the other teams are passing, Bud has a better chance to have an impact with QB pressures and sacks that might mean less in the 2nd quarter.

  • nutty32

    Throwing a football to an uncovered person is not that hard especially if you’re a professional football player. Would venture to say it’s just about as easy as ranting and raving from one’s living room.

  • nutty32

    I love football break downs. Let me know what you find after watching all the reps!

  • David Shoff

    I agree. I wouldn’t have put Hubbard on the losers list. Dunlap is tough and Hubbard is still a backup, and they didn’t really give him any help either.

  • David Shoff

    Bingo! The penalties weren’t way down!

  • Hagen Rinde

    Colbert is a winner for getting Haden!

  • WB Tarleton

    1) lol It’s near the goal line. There are ALWAYS 8 in the box but you do not discard the run because of it.

    2) Our red zone deficiencies started long before Haley. Ben has been the one constant.

    3) Perhaps.

    4) Fools like you would be talking about a brilliant run by Bell if he scored. You judge results, not calls.

  • WB Tarleton

    Three years older than Ben and much smaller.

  • Zarbor

    What you continue to fail to realize is situational football. You are up two scores and way in your own territory on 4th down with your defense playing very well. Its a stupid call to have your backup safety make that throw no matter how easy it seems to you.

    Risk was definitely not worth it. If Golden under threw him, the defender that came over may have gotten a pick or knock the ball away. Now you moronically put the Bengals in scoring position to make it a one score game even with a field goal. Why you guys can’t understand that simple fact is amazing to a number of us.

  • nutty32

    Around mid-field with the D playing pretty tight. Not that huge a risk. Somewhat “living in your fears” if you refuse to throw the ball in open field to an guy left uncovered. They’re giving it to you.

  • Matt Manzo

    It’s just so hard to watch him get completely run out of the play all game long. He was either pushed out or pushed down on so many plays.

  • Obi Ryn Denobi

    I wouldn’t take any of my ‘comments’ seriously either. I don’t!

  • Obi Ryn Denobi

    Bryant needs to get open to get thrown to. And ‘catch’ what comes his way, if he wants more! AB does! AB gets! And Bryant gets replaced by a 20 year old who GETS it!

  • Obi Ryn Denobi

    That’s a guy deserving waaay more respect than he’s ever gotten! Where would we have been the last 6-7 years back there without Willie Gay?

  • Obi Ryn Denobi

    I thought Bos got his contract. Wasn’t it one of the late deals end of training camp?

  • Darth Blount 47

    Nope. He is only signed for 2017.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    That’d hurt him more than me with the leg braces I have on at the moment. Ha.

  • Obi Ryn Denobi

    You’re right! I just looked it up. The late talk was only rumors.

    He’s restricted next year, but he’ll get it, if it’s not ridiculous.

  • ND_Steel

    Crap…ol’ timers is setting in, lol…turning into my dad who called them the Oakland Raiders the whole time through LA and back…

  • ND_Steel

    Yeah, them too ! 😉

  • ND_Steel

    Ha! Ol’ timers setting in…

  • MC

    Where is Mike Hilton?

  • Chad Weiss

    I mean Tomlin,assuming it was his fault for missed timeout at end of half.

  • Chad Weiss

    I’m not a Tomlin hater,i just think he should have called a timeout quicker at end of half

  • Zarbor

    Stop the nonsense. No one is crying. You would be signing a different tune if it didn’t work out. Can’t teach or explain common sense. Keep quoting Tomlin and his nonsense about “living in your fears.” Next week it will be “unleash hell” for you to quote.

    For the record the ball was on our 40, so making those kind of decision shows that you have little confidence in your offense to make a first down after failing on several 3rd and 1….That’s why he did it. Not because he was wide open. You think he calls that play if we were up by 21 and HeyBey was wiiiide open. LOL……Whatever dude. Its your world….we just live in it. I’m sure the Patsies will be look at that play and shaking in their boots.

  • nutty32

    Ok, man. Just glad we won.

  • Zarbor

    Meeting too. We can agree on that for sure.

  • Obi Ryn Denobi

    I’m sure he’s about as serious as I am about any of this. I couldn’t find the rolling eyes emoji!