Steelers Vs Chiefs Winners/Losers

The Pittsburgh Steelers with a big win. Feels good to say that again. Drinks on me.

WINNERS

Mike Hilton: Hilton isn’t the sexiest name on this list but man, what a game from 31. His run defense has been excellent and he chipped in two TFLs, including a one-handed takedown of Travis Kelce. His tackling has been consistently excellent and his blitz off the edge, aided by his ability to time it, bailed out an Artie Burns’ meltdown.

Antonio Brown: What a player. What a play. Sure, there was luck on his tip-drill touchdown. But it also took incredible concretion. Years on the JUGS machine pays off on a play like that. Eight catches, 155 yards, and that score.

Le’Veon Bell: Bell was consistently excellent. He took advantage of what was blocked but more importantly, created his own room when there wasn’t any, the hallmark of a great running back. Averaged 5.8 yards per carry on 32 touches.

Ben Roethlisberger: I know the box score doesn’t paint this as his best game ever. And it wasn’t. But it was his best game of the year. No mistakes, the INT was Brown’s fault, and he got the deep ball working. Still can be better, and will likely be required later in the season, but a great turnaround after last week.

David DeCastro: Gotta show the offensive line some love. Shoutout to Chris Hubbard for having maybe his best game filling in for Marcus Gilbert, who left during the game, but DeCastro seemed particularly excellent. Maurkice Pouncey too. Bell easily got into the second level, especially in the first half.

Vince Williams: Two sacks on the game, making him the team-leader. He ran over Kareem Hunt on both snaps, though Hunt saved face with a stiff-arm in the second half. It’s a shame he left the game with an injury but when he was out there, played like his physical self. Needed in a game like today.

Sean Davis: Not the loudest performance today but he was really good coming off a pretty awful game vs Jacksonville. Big open field tackles and his 4th down breakup on TE Demetrius Harris was one you shouldn’t forget about. Rose to the moment. Gotta love it.

Stephon Tuitt: Wrote this morning Tuitt needed to have a strong game against Cam Erving. He certainly didn’t disappoint. Got pressure early and often. His impact goes far beyond the box score, where he finished with just two tackles.

Roosevelt Nix: Finally, some love to Rosie. Cracking skulls in the run game. Like Vince Williams, he helped bring the physicality on the offense.

James Harrison: Gotta give the man credit. Mike Tomlin asked if he still had it. Answer? Hell yes. 

LOSERS

Danny Smith/Jordan Berry: Tied to the hip. Breakdown on punt coverage late in the game and the kick return after the safety was a hot mess. Berry’s punts were of the JV variety, though he did have a big boom on his last one. As has been his issue for parts of his career, consistency has been the biggest problem.

Artie Burns: Burns did make some really strong plays on third down. But his gaffes were inexcusable. Lost his man on the Chiefs’ touchdown and should’ve gave up another. Like I wrote earlier, got bailed out by Hilton pressure that forced an errant throw.

Mike Mitchell: I’m sure he did some good things to help tamp down the Chiefs’ passing attack early on but the missed sack/facemask/late hit is the worst combo in history. Unless he really did get tripped on that low hit on Smith, that’s something that really could be a suspensionable offense.

You know I generally defend the guy but today? Not smart football.

Bud Dupree: Another quiet game from him. Just one tackle. Worked against the same Eric Fisher as Deebo did. (Edit Note: Screwed this one up, Dupree worked on RT Mitchell Schwartz. So he’ll get a pass this week.)


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  • Reader783

    There are things that coulda been done better, but overall amazing win on the road. My 1 winner: James Harrison. Go Steelers.

  • I didn’t see Dupree line up over Fisher at all. He was on the other side going up against Schwartz. Watt mostly went against Fisher.

    Game game by the defense. They played very well today.

  • SteelersGeek4Lyfe

    Phew, still a shot at the #1 seed. Gotta keep feeding Leveon, avoid turnovers, and let this defense do it’s thing.

  • C2K

    Loser: Tomlin
    Tried to give the game away with a 4th and 2 punt on the 35.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    Just once can we put a team away after we come out dominating? Yes, I’m complaning. That game should have never come down to the last drive. Defense saves the day once again.

  • Steve Johnson

    I wouldn’t add #7 to the winners list; however, I wouldn’t add him to the losers list either. I would add the O/C to the losers list; add the Defense (as a Corps Unit) to the winners list. They pretty much shut down the top ranked Offense in the NFL for three Qtrs. That TD throw to A.B? That was a lot of luck, glad they got the win though. I still don’t think they are using Bryant like they should.

  • NinjaMountie

    Winners: Everyone. This season could have gone bad had they not won today. Solid team effort.

    Losers since I have to pick: Mitchell and red zone play calling. I know people are tired of hearing me gripe about the red zone play calling. My problem is mostly within the 5. Running parallel to LOS and passing all the time…just not good thinking.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    Does Haley know what play action is???

  • Chris92021

    Another loser? Todd Haley, especially when the Steelers got inside the red zone. Face it, our QB is not very sharp right now. Until (or if) he gets sharp, we will win games by running the ball and controlling the clock. Some of those route combos inside the red zone were atrociously bad.

    Danny Smith needs to be fired ASAP. His guys are seldom prepared.

    Good win because we needed to gain a game on the division. However, this one was far from perfect.

  • Steve Johnson

    Tomlin? Negative! The O/C play calling nearly Blew It!

  • CP72

    Chris Hubbard is a winner. Justin Houston is a man.

  • Taylor Williams

    I hate when Butler rushes 3. Why? We have a good pass rush now and can get to the QB with just 4. It’s stupid.

    Someone needs to calm Burns down. He’s acting like Mitchell and is out of position all the time.

    I like that we drafted “Mike Hilton” in the second round of the 2015 draft. The slot is solidified for a while.

    I want to secretly edit Todd Haley’s play book. On 3rd and short, why is everyone going deep?

  • NinjaMountie

    Did you mean to put Watt on the losers list?

  • Really? Haley on the losers list? SMH…

  • Jim McCarley

    I agree..why punt on the 35?stupid, imo.

  • Taylor Williams

    Everyone needs to run short curl routes in the redzone. How about a pass to Jesse James in the redzone? We should’ve won by 14 easily.

    Nonetheless, a win is a win.

  • Kevin Artis

    I said the same about Ben when I read he was on the winners list.

  • CP72

    If Cam Heyward plays like this an doesn’t make the pro bowl….it would be a shame.

  • Darth Blount 47

    My winners? : The O-Line. Ben was totally clean and the holes opened for Bell were WIDE.

    Speaking of Bell, no offense at all to Brown, who I adore, but BELL was the best player on that field today. IMO.
    Ben was good. Brown was great.

    The Defense played very well. They just may, indeed, be for real. Maybe.
    Deebo. What else can you say?!?!?!?!?!?!?

    Losers?: The refs. But they often are. Glad we took it out of their hands.
    Mike Mitchell. I mean….. WTF?
    Bud Dupree. I mean….. the guy HAS to get better, fast. Or else Watt takes his job and we start Deebo.
    Haley…. I mean…. everyone has to hate Todd Haley right now, right? It’s contractually obligated. (For the record, 37 rushing attempts/25 passes, means he is NOT on the list this week)

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    Loser: Dupree

    Same move every single play. Run upfield past the tackle and get taken out of the play. Maddening.

  • Luke Shabro

    I’ve been a big Mike Mitchell supporter. Between this week and last week it’s inexcusable. Shut your yap until you get one crucial stop or one splash play. He got his lunch taken today

  • Jason Vancil

    Vance McDonald is a quality blocker. I wish he had better hands. He absolutely trucked several Chiefs on Bells’ runs.

  • Chad Sanborn

    Yep until the red zone cleans itself up, Haley will be on the list

  • StolenUpVotes

    My guy Hilton!!!

  • GenericSteelers Fan

    Losers: Haley. FIRE TODD. Screens everywhere again. So predictable. He’s lucky the defense bailed him out. This offense should have been able to score 30 before the end of the first quarter. Unacceptable.

    Tomlin is a loser too. Once again the team looked completely unprepared. They won this game in spite of him, not because of him. Never would have happened under Cowher. Fire him.

  • CP72

    This!! Vance is a much better blocker than James. He and Rosie are underrated pieces.

  • Chad Sanborn

    why wouldn’t he be on the losers list? That red zone offense is ready for smell-o-vision.

  • Darth Blount 47

    What would be the fun in that? Who needs their hair or mirrors?

  • Luke Shabro

    Trying to recall the exact play but it was a 2nd or 3rd down where Tuitt tipped the ball, Cam was getting held so blatantly I couldn’t believe it wasn’t called

  • Aj Gentile

    What?

  • StolenUpVotes

    Lol. How many people will respond seriously without reading the account name?

  • bulldog

    Love Nix in there. It reminds me of the days of physical Steeler football!

  • Luke Shabro

    Sarcasm lol

  • I though they could have ran it to get the first down with they way they ran all game They tried to pin them inside the 5 but the touchback resulted in a 15 net result. It would have been a 52 yard field goal and if it is missed then KC gets the ball their own 42 with 8 minutes left.

    I’m guessing the decision to punt was based off of how well the defense played all day.

  • The Chin

    Come on man. The only gaffe for Tomlin might have been another retarded challenge. Bad intel with that much time to make a decision. But no way on the loser list. Jeez

  • HopeHarveys

    The Chief > The Chiefs

  • Agustin-ARG

    it’s definitely time to give an honorable mention to Vance as a blocker.

  • Brian Miller

    Yes, and just because he runs it 37 times doesn’t mean he is automatically on the winner list. I mean, predictability is one of the main arguments against him.

  • Luke Shabro

    Hilton is so impressive. Sure tackler for his size. Great vision. Disciplined. What a steal

  • Darth Blount 47

    We need a TE we can count on down there.

  • Brian Miller

    Nope…

  • Okay yeah the redzone offense is having problems but the offense was good today. 439 total yards good.

  • CP72

    He’s fun to watch. He’s explosive.

  • Jason Vancil

    He might be suspended for a game when the League looks at that dive at Smiths legs. Didn’t look good.

  • Luke Shabro

    Clearly the Steelers have KC’s numbed. If we can get over the hump with NE we’re in like Flint

  • Lambert58

    With the way the defense was playing, it was a solid call.

  • NinjaMountie

    James has always been solid when given the chance down there. It’s more than that. It’s honestly play calling, be it from Ben or Haley.

  • Luke Shabro

    Kills defenders out there. Rosie is a bad man

  • Darth Blount 47

    He missed the tackle on the TD. Other than that, he played well and with fire.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    17 points, not very good.

  • Chad Sanborn

    still on the list because his playbook is from 1913 and must not have any red zone plays.

  • JohnB

    Winner.. Big Cam…dude was throwing guys into other guys all game. I cant wait to watch the replays…would love to see a film room on it *hint hint* haha

    Loser.: Mike M. I usually never have a bad thing to say about him but I did not like his play today. very ugly. very dirty.
    Good game guys!

  • StolenUpVotes

    Absolutely buried Peters on one run

  • I thought that was worth a challenge, it was so close. I though his toe nail was on the white the whole way.

  • NinjaMountie

    Hmmmmm….what to complain about??

    Oh, I know!
    Geesh, where is the 30 pts a game?

  • Luke Shabro

    As of this moment, unless 7 retires, FS and TE have to be the biggest draft needs

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    It’s still fire Haley. Opinion hasn’t changed.

  • John Pennington

    Tomlin needs to call Burns into the office on Monday and rip him a new one on his missed coverage and poor tackling that almost cost the team the game. Being out of position the way he was in this game and half ass effort in tackling enough is enough, If he cant do the job or not taking the game serious maybe its time to bench him but something has to be done to rein him in.

  • Taylor Williams

    I’ll settle for 24-27 points a game

  • Points scored is irrelevant because we scored more…

  • capehouse

    You hate on Artie too much. Had a couple huge breakups. Ben on the winners list is laughable. For what?

  • Taylor Williams

    Yep.

  • NinjaMountie

    I’ll settle for any score that’s more than what our opponents have. 🙂

  • Darth Blount 47

    It could be. I am not even sure if it is fair to say “Red Zone,” as much as it is from the 8 yard line in. We’re pretty good from the 20 down to there! Lol.

  • Lambert58

    Hilton made some good plays, he also had 2 missed tackles that I saw. My nickname for Hilton: Mighty Mouse. 😉

  • Taylor Williams

    ILB. Williams is good, but could use an upgrade nonetheless.

  • John Noh

    Was Hilton going for the strip in that one and only TD for the Chiefs?

  • NinjaMountie

    Bouncing back. That has to factor in. He had a really bad game and followed it up with a good one.

  • Chad Sanborn

    Thats great and all, but the game is won with points on the board not yards between the 20s.

  • Lambert58

    Finney played well too. My new nickname for Finney: The Butcher.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    Any OC that can’t even get 20 points out of this offense is no good. Sorry.

  • StolenUpVotes

    68%. 250+ yards. Commanded the LOS……against the last undefeated team in football. ….in their building.

  • NinjaMountie

    I think QB is a priority regardless. Only thing stopping that is if Ben retires and we sign Cousins or something.

  • capehouse

    It was average in my opinion. Would definitely not call him a loser, but couple times he had a chance to make a play and couldn’t get it done.

  • NYBurgh79

    I agree too . I did not like the PLAY on mike M . I hope he got tripped which cause the flag on chief’s QB.If not ,that was a dirty play .

  • Correct me if i’m wrong though, we did score more right?

  • capehouse

    Bell commanded the line of scrimmage.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Or the players fail to execute them properly???

  • Luke Shabro

    Eric Fisher is checking under his bed for Deebo tonight. Good God that guy cannot stop James Harrison

  • NinjaMountie

    He also made some good plays. Can’t make them all. I’d give him a B for this game….which is a good game.

  • JohnB

    also I’ve noticed our TE defense has gotten better this year.

  • Taylor Williams

    Cam is mean and talented. Tuitt is more athletic, but Heyward brings a nasty dynamic to the defense.
    McCullers would be starting if he was nasty. Shame he’s a gentle giant

  • StolenUpVotes

    Bell is not the player making checks at the LOS my man

  • capehouse

    B- tops and that’s generous

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    I will concede on Burns being on the loser list. I wouldn’t, but that td play was bad and if he plays smarter the game isn’t close.

  • Williams was great today until he got hurt. Hope it’s not serious or long term.

  • Taylor Williams

    If he had better hands, we wouldn’t have him right now

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    Burns almost single handedly gave away the game today. He deserves some hate.

  • Brian Miller

    Not sure about Ben, he just looks terrible. Not sure what is wrong with him, but good god he looks bad. And when we need him to make 1 first down, he can’t complete it. I don’t get it…i can’t believe they dominate a team for 3 1/2 quarters on O and D, and only have 12 points to show for it. Really only 10. This offense is a joke, and I really don’t know what the solution is.

  • The Glenn

    Totally agree. They netted 20 yards on that call.

    I hate punts in that area. They serve zero purpose.

  • NinjaMountie

    I will not quibble over symbols. LOL…we mostly agree.

  • JohnB

    he played a good 3 quarters of football…()edit: this could mean either guy)

  • Taylor Williams

    Need to split snaps with deebo. Not too many snaps since Harrison gets gassed easily, but he’s a better player.

  • melblount

    Burns MUST stop his “I am god” act after any play he is involved in.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    As long as the other team doesn’t get over 25 we should be fine.

  • JohnB

    Don’t be negative..HA!

  • Steeler Fanatic

    Losers. The refs. How on God’s green Earth on Smith’s scramble, 40 yd dump off to hunt that the official doesn’t call a blindside hit in the secondary.. OR why is Smith not called for taunting for standing over Mike Mitchell and yelling at him?

  • melblount

    Agreed. The inability of THIS offense to consistently (hell, anytime) score TDs is inexcusable.

  • NinjaMountie

    SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH
    If you think he looked bad today I just don’t know what to tell you. Until Jesus comes down to play QB for the Steelers you will never think a QB will play well.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    Fire Haley

  • JohnB

    once he has the discipline to not look in the backfield, he’s going to be special

  • NYBurgh79

    I agree too. But I hope he got tripped into smiths legs . If not that was a dirty play . the steelers FO will to upgrade his position next year .

  • Michael James

    Well some observations:
    1) Berry is bad and they should seriously consider bringing in a different Punter
    2) Generally liked the playcalling today, but Haley’s redzone playcalling was still questionable
    3) Ben was good today, looked much more focused
    4) Not playing Harrison those last few games has to be considered a serious crime
    5) Great win!

  • Brian Miller

    This, and Bell not sticking out the ball for a 1st down…it just makes a fan shake their head. These players, what is more important, a win, or showing off after you make a good play. Drives me crazy…

  • CP72

    People want Tomlin to be like Cowher. Bill would’ve punted their. Heck Bill might have punted on 3rd down.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    To his credit he was trying to communicate something, but you gotta stay focused on your keys and don’t get distracted.

  • JohnB

    no, yes, yes, debatable, HECK YEAH!!

  • Steeler Fanatic

    I mostly agree. Run the ball inside the five.I like Debo coming on in relief.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    I would add JuJu to the winner’s list barely. I thought he had a great game and is kinda moving past Martavis a lil bit…

  • Phil Brenneman II

    Had to stop in to make sure of 2 things Alex and you nailed them.

    1. You gave VW love and he deserves it. Dude may be our best pass rusher lol.

    2. You called out Mitchell for that crap he pulled. I get it, I have never liked Mitchell anyway but unless he was tripped or something that was just a dirty play and I don’t even tend to think of Mitchell as a dirty player. Definitely a fine in his future.

    There is one thing I want to add to the losers list:

    Game awareness – Don’t get me wrong, the guys I am going to mention belong on the winners list big picture, but there are these little things that hurt us a good bit that we need to clean up. One was Bell having an easy chance at a first down and instead of tucking and trucking in the open field he tried to make a move and ended up tucking the ball late instead of being able to reach for the first. The other was AB. He caught a first down ball and ran himself out of the first down to try and make a move on the defender. After what should have been a 1st down it was 3rd and 2 and we missed converting. Ultimately we won so these things didn’t end up mattering but in a game that close you prefer both of those to be first downs.

  • Taylor Williams

    Oh god anyone but cousins. He’s too inconsistent.

  • Darth Blount 47

    I thought Berry was fine. 5 punts, 2 inside the 20. And a real boomer when we needed it to flip the field, of 62 yards in the air!

    Yes, for 5 punts, the 207 yardage should be better. But all in all, acceptable I thought.

  • NinjaMountie

    I really like him. I just wish he’d get his blocking penalties under control. His one wart.

  • pittsburghjoe

    They went into arrowhead and beat an undefeated team. Winner – Steelers and coaches.

  • More or less inconsistent than Ben?

  • JohnB

    I saw that and he almost had him but in that environment and situation you cant get caught slipping. But again that’s the discipline I spoke of.

  • John Noh

    Holding is a killer for him. So unnecessary on the last one.

  • CP72

    Martavis should run slant and go routes. Play to his strengths….

  • Darth Blount 47

    I thought he handled himself. I do like his poise for a rookie. Especially now that he has gotten himself under control! Holy geez, for awhile there I thought he was going to get himself concussed every single game.

  • Chad Sanborn

    yes but that wasn’t the topic of the conversation. It was the red zone offense.. which is horrendous.

  • GoSteelerz

    Love Hilton, and I think he belongs on the winners list. However, the missed tackle on the touchdown, and on the big pass play to Kareem Hunt was disappointing. He went for the strip on the touchdown and missed the strip and the tackle, and somehow just couldn’t get a good hand on Hunt on the other big play. Knowing how hard he has been working, I’m sure he will continue to strive to get better. He made some big plays though in this game and seems to position himself well to disrupt runs even if he doesn’t end up making the tackle. His blitzes continue to be disruptive, and his coverage is consistently good, with QB’s often looking elsewhere to find an open guy. Our defense just seems better with him out there. Nice to see our D have a solid game, certainly something to build off of. Now if we can just score points… Still a great win, putting us in the driver’s seat in our division.

  • Shannon Stephenson

    good call though…but that is Haleys fault for not calling good plays

  • Taylor Williams

    He’s clutch. His hands and awareness will eventually put him passed Bryant.

    Speaking of Bryant, he’s regressed a bit. That added muscle slowed him down.

  • NinjaMountie

    Interesting note:
    They ran AB’s Gatorade play again and it worked!!

  • Big Joe

    Wow, what a gut wrenching game! Just when I thought we had them behind the 8-ball, we give up a long drive in just over a minute on the clock. There are certainly some things they still need to clean up on ST, slot defense, CB coverage responsibilities, etc. but a nice team win.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Definitely something to learn from! He made some plays but gave up a big one!

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Man, Ben has always been Ben. I feel like he had that one season where he had a bunch of 5 touchdown games and people thought he was Drew Brees. He’s our QB. He’s good enough to win a SB. He’s not in the tier with Aaron Rodgers.

  • melblount

    Mike Mitchell had his chance to REALLY come up BIG at a critical juncture and….WOW.

    Man, do I miss Ryan Clark. He still looks like he could play BTW. Just sayin’.

  • Darth Blount 47

    And fans! I saw quite a few Terrible Towels in that building!

    And that’s not the easiest place to score a ticket.

  • CP72

    Noticed that….he was wide open again.

  • Brian Miller

    Not true, I am realistic, but honestly, we can’t win consistently giving the balk to Bell 40 times and not throwing a couple of decent throws in the 4th quarter…that would probably seal the game. Sorry I don’t think he deserves a pat on the back for looking like complete ass all season considering his importance to the team and his salary. He may have a good quarter or two here and there, but great QBs do it when it matters most. When was the last time he actually played really well at the end of the game? I guarantee you it wasn’t this season.

  • melblount

    Unfortunately, overly talkative Tony totally missed that.

  • NinjaMountie

    I do miss a Ryan Clark in his prime. Mitchell is closing in on being done in the ‘burgh.

  • Shannon Stephenson

    The Steeler offense has played against 3 top 10 defenses and good Chiefs and Bears defenses that maybe are not ranked high but do play good defense…only the Browns can we say is very questionable. I think we will see better things to come here shortly.

  • pittsburghjoe

    Winner- Late week podcast – Always good with Alex. No offense to Todd. He is good too. Got to roll with Alex though since we started a new streak. Todd and Deebo can go catch a movie together. Lol

  • Taylor Williams

    Same with brown. Bryant isn’t a deep threat anymore. They should be a YAC team now. Go routes to Rogers as well.
    These deep throws arent cutting it.

  • Dofdmp

    The offense only scored 17…The saftey was 2 pts

  • NinjaMountie

    It will always be the Gatorade play to me now.

  • GenericSteelers Fan

    I AGREE! I expected to see a perfect steelers win against a perfect chiefs team. Fire Haley, fire Tomlin, Fire butler, fire Smith. Clean house before mid season. Hire the next bill belichick (without the cheating) and we’ll be superbowl bound baby!

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    He’s not quick on his feet like he used to be. Added muscle mass could be the culprit.

  • melblount

    Should you not include Andy (“I wanna be like Mike”) Reid on the Winner’s list, perhaps as an Honorary? Helluva contribution.

  • GoSteelerz

    Yep, and he missed the strip and the tackle. Love the effort, just gotta finish. Still had a good game overall, just needs to clean that up a bit. He’s usually a much more sure tackler than that.

  • Taylor Williams

    I think he just wiffed it. Burns was out of position.

  • Joseph Shaw

    Eeeehhhhh, I wouldn’t say no mistakes from Ben. I’m fine giving him a pass on the INT, but if you do that, you have to note that AB’s TD should have been a pick. Bad throw.

  • Shannon Stephenson

    He looked fast on his first catch across the middle.

  • NinjaMountie

    For the record, I still think that Harris debacle in the end zone was a TD for the Chiefs.

  • Horrendous is and over exaggeration. They made to the redzone on 2 possessions and got 10 points, that’s a TD 50%. The best scoring offense in the league (Chiefs) were held 3 points including a 4th and short failed conversion, thats a TD 0%

  • DSG

    Yeah. Ben is a game manager. To think otherwise is naive. When we win its usually bc bell plays great or defense plays great but never bc ben plays great. He just isn’t the qb that can carry a team.

  • Darth Blount 47

    “Are you saying Jesus Christ can’t hit a curveball?!”

  • Taylor Williams

    Hmmm you got me there.
    Maybe he isn’t so bad

  • Kevin Schwartz

    Not really relevant, but I do like him as a commentator.

  • Dofdmp

    All those failed passes on 3rd & short….Sad Haley just wouldn’t call an easy run play.

  • JohnB

    oh yeah I was like “Hurry! snap the ball!!!”

  • Brian Miller

    And you don’t know me from Adam, so please don’t act like I am have been constantly dogging on Ben or I have unbelievably unreal expectations. You don’t know what I think about QBs except what I just said now. But if I need hyperbole I will look you up…

  • CP72

    Shh…can’t believe they didn’t challenge that.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    He did but old Marty would have took that to the house…

  • Shannon Stephenson

    well to take it from this angle…remember against the Ravens the play where Brown did not complete the catch and went for a pick….very similar IMO.

  • 太阳三联

    2 points from safety

  • Joseph Shaw

    Not under current rules. Which I say with a great deal of ambivalence.

  • JohnB

    with Haleys play calling nothing is a guarantee.

  • Brian Miller

    Yup, not any more. I realize he has never been Rodgers or Brady, but he has been much better, as recently as last year at times.

  • CP72

    I like other sports, but the Steelers are the only thing that gets my heart pumping like that. Still have an elevated heart rate.

  • JohnB

    there was some but I hear Ben doesn’t like it.

  • DSG

    Winner mcdonald for not dropping the rock. I think his blocking was pretty good too

  • David Henderson

    Nix is my new favorite Steeler!! Maybe one day Mitchell will get noticed for making a good play and not a boneheaded one!!

  • Chad Sanborn

    Have you seen this team play any other games this season or was today the first. RED ZONE has been a consistent problem. Even today.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    To Bell’s credit I think he may have thought he had it already, but stretch your arms at least! Usually they do these types of things so I’ll give Bell and AB a pass.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    This offense simply has to score more TDs. The defense has been the best unit on the team by far and has been carying the team.

  • JohnB

    All of us are also winners for having Romo in the booth. I wish he’d do all our games.

  • JohnB

    Can we make JJSS a TE so we can get our other WRs on the field. I mean dude can block and catch. what is size anyway?!

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    I don’t think so. Process of the catch and all.

  • NinjaMountie

    The Pens get me all worked up as well as the Steelers.

  • NinjaMountie

    I would agree if Harris had fallen down. He stayed standing the whole time. Tie goes to the WR in that case. Just my opinion and I’m glad it doesn’t count, lol.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    He made some clutch catches that moved the chains! We may need to look to him more to help our offense.

  • I admitted that in the comments above. Wow, just wow, SMH.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    He is definitely still a deep threat, just not when Ben is throwing the ball over his head.

  • C2K

    I agree but we were seeing some of the same predictable and questionable play calling under Arians.

  • JohnB

    who are the chefs?

  • Michael

    From goat to hero. 26 yd catch by Vance MacDonald from our six inch goal line. Thumbs up.

  • Chad Sanborn

    so why not shut your mouth

  • Michael

    Bell is back but WHEN or IF Martavis will be?

  • NinjaMountie

    He worried me on that catch! Wasn’t the most graceful catch I’ve seen.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    Does Haley have a contract with cbs or something? Seems like he tries his best to keep the games close.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    I’m glad it didn’t count and it shouldn’t. It should be like if it wasn’t in the endzone: a clear control of the ball throughout. I don’t think it was and being in the endzone kinda skews it a lil.

  • I’m not going to ding the OC for a single facet on the overall great gameplan today. It wasn’t perfect but the Steelers offense dominated the Chiefs defense.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    When Ben can throw an accurate pass over 20 yards.

  • swami

    Hilton deserves to be first on the list. Never lose that effort Mike!

  • NinjaMountie

    I’m glad it didn’t count as well. I was never so happy to see us snap the ball.

  • Phil Brenneman II

    Yeah like I said, big picture winners list for me but it is worth noting for this game alone. Because it was so close and we had so many chances to run away with the game and then so many chances to lose it because of slipups like that.

    On the Bell play specifically I don’t think he could reach because I actually think he almost lost the ball once he was getting hit. That is why I was thinking he should have just trucked the first dude instead of getting fancy and he ended up running into 2 guys.

  • melblount

    Now that’s funny.

    (Thanks Terry.)

  • ryan72384

    Eh I understand giving Ben some love incase he reads this because he needs a confidence boost but he got incredibly lucky on the TD to AB and he couldn’t convert a third down pass on those last couple drives to put the game away. All of his passes look ‘floaty’ to me. Coming out of his hand weird. He doesn’t look confident at all. I feel bad for him just because aging sucks especially when you can’t do the same things you did as a young man. So I’m not going to hate on him. It happens. I just hope he can manage the games and make a play or two here and there like Peyton in 2015 because I don’t think he is going to win too many games with his arm at this point. I agree with everything else. Bud Dupree looks like another first round miss. Not a Jarvis miss but he just doesn’t look special at all.

  • melblount

    Amen.

  • Chris92021

    It worked. We just have to be patient with him. He’s already proven to be a good blocker. Now if he can give us 2-4 catches a game, he would make our offense even better. Actually might get our QB going.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    Cousins looks pretty good.

  • NinjaMountie

    That was funny, but he did throw a few that fit the criterion today.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    Romo is a superstar announcer.

  • Roberto Vaquero Bazán

    Ben is a winner?, oh boy In The game I watched he couldn’t get a first down in consecutive series to seal The deal, he missed again an open Brown in The zone for a TD, not to mention The Brown TD that should have been a pick.
    Yes Ben you don’t have it anymore!

  • NinjaMountie

    Winning today sure does make watching Sunday Night Football and Star Trek: Discovery a lot more fun.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    Screw what Ben likes.

  • Zarbor

    Sorry Ben is not on the winners list. He’s not on the losers list either. He was average and lucky at the same time. He made some good throws but he made some poor throws. Third down conversion is where a QB makes his living. Ben wasn’t great on 3rd down. A night where he was rarely under pressure like he should have been with KC front four. A night where Bell did the heavy lifting. A night coming off 5 INT, I expected better.

    The O-line should be on the Winners list. With two starters out they did well against a dominant front. How they don’t all make it is beyond me Alex. Shameful.

    Dupree should definitely be on the list and its time to really start focusing on this dude. If he went against Fisher one of the better linemen, I would give him a slight pass. He went against the weaker guy and was missing. He looked more like JarJar Jones and can’t seem to get to the QB especially when we need a play.

    Should be embarrassed the Deebo came in and made one of the biggest plays with the sack at the time we needed one.

  • Dorian James

    To your point about Dupree, ide like to see Chick back out there. I’ll get killed for this but do you think they can try him on the inside next to Shazier?? (waits for the profanity and “are you insane”) comments

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Here we go with Star Trek again. 😉

  • Dorian James

    My week-long trial is up no more Star Trek for me LOL

  • NinjaMountie

    You didn’t like Ben’s performance and think he’s scum. Well, there’s a shocker.

  • NinjaMountie

    I get paid to plug it…joke! I do it for free lol.

  • NinjaMountie

    Bummer.

  • Nathanael Dory

    I think he is still fast. Just not as agile and quick as before

  • J Jones

    Defense was playing amazing football. Why not leave it in their hands? I get it…u hate Tomlin blah, blah, blah. At some pt u gotta be logical tho. Grasping at straws bro

  • Touche.

  • Jason Vancil

    I def agree with your 2nd part. Need another young Safety to pair with Davis.

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    Only to 84 seems like lol

  • Edjhjr

    The greatest offense ever does slightly better than usual.

    The great defense is great

  • JohnB

    I dont know, ive seen his “supposed” taste in women.

  • Guillermo Garcia-Gomez

    I actually don’t think Martavis has regressed at all. You know how in basketball there’s guys who can create their own shot? Bryant can’t create many of his own plays, the few screens he’s scored on a aside. He has to just run behind the defense and get the ball put on him and unfortunately Ben doesn’t seem to be able to consistently hit those passes anymore. I also dont think he’s really reading the defense. Seems like he just decided where he’s going before every single play.

  • NinjaMountie

    JuJu, Vance, MB. Well, JuJu’s was only 15 but the other two were over 20.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    I’ve probably watched the Last Jedi trailer over 100 times!

  • NinjaMountie

    I’ve watched it and all of the youtube theory videos on it as well.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Lol! Me too!!! We have alot in common, you and I!

  • PaeperCup

    Called it.

  • srdan

    especially after martzi tried to roast him. Go back and read just the title of his article. sheesh

  • NinjaMountie

    It does appear to be that way. Football and Sci-Fi….the hobbies of the cool kids.

  • Edjhjr

    Wait…… I don’t know but how many rush versus pass

  • Josh Knepshield

    Mitchell Schwarts might be the best RT in the game. Youre insane if you think he is the weaker guy. Lol

  • NinjaMountie

    Does anyone else think that it looks like Watt is getting dropped A LOT? Like A LOT A LOT?

  • Edjhjr

    37 to 25. Rush pass.

    And they beat the best team in the afc.

    Someone on the team must consider this a loss

  • T R

    Yea worth the challenge. I think his toe was on line imo

  • The Sun is Pro-Black

    In coverage you mean?

  • Clutterbox

    Harrison should play more. We know Watt is the future, but there is no reason why Chick was ahead of him in the depth charts.

  • Douglas Andrews

    That Mike Mitchell play…ehhhh it was a “dude what were you thinking?” moment. I won’t be offended if he does gets suspended that looked dirty

  • NinjaMountie

    Yes.
    Wait…no, I mean dropped for pushups. 😉

  • Douglas Andrews

    Agreed he needs to leapfrog Chickillo after this game

  • NinjaMountie

    I sure didn’t. I told Sabbie we were gonna get beat today.

  • DirtDawg1964

    Deal with whatever crappy thing you’ve got going on in your life. Because all you do is come on this board and argue your point ad naseum. Even when you’ve been called out.

    You just can’t deal with someone even countering your perspective. You’re messed up dude. Living a big man’s life in a little man’s mind.

  • Zarbor

    You’re right, I forgot that Mitchell was their RT but lets not get ridiculous calling him the best in the game.

  • Arnold Ziffel

    Mitchell is a cheap shot artist because he is always a step slow. Under the great leadership of Art II, Colbert and Tomlin, druggies and low lifes are welcome on the Steelers. I’m glad I’m no longer a fan after Chicago and disrespecting the National Anthem.

  • JohnB

    Bye!

  • Andrew

    He’s getting there. Wouldn’t be surprised if he surpasses James in the next few weeks (as long as he can stop dropping passes)

  • Zarbor

    Then stop coming on here since you are no longer a fan. Go away. This site is for the fans.

  • Trollers gonna troll…

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Alvin got ran up the arc a TON today. He has to start showing.

  • Mark DeSevo

    Yet here you are commenting after watching the game… what a joke.

  • NinjaMountie

    bye bye

  • Roberto Vaquero Bazán

    Lol, I am reading my own post again and again and again, but I can’t find where did I say Ben is a scum, he can’t play anymore at a decent level and once more he showed it

  • Arnold Ziffel

    Tomlin should send Andy Reid a fruit basket. Reid is one of a handful of coaches in all of football that can actually be out coached by Tomlin.

  • NinjaMountie

    Speed is great but a player like JH shows you that what you really need to win are technique and leverage.
    Von Miller, players like him have both and it isn’t fair.

  • DarthYinzer

    Feel free to stay away.

  • Zarbor

    These guys are such losers. Bunch of internet chumps. Talk big but watching the game and coming on here to make.

  • afrazier9

    The coaching staff has to be on loosers list for playing not to loose

  • T3xassteelers

    I watch the Pens in the playoffs, but I just can’t get into hockey too much sadly. Especially being here in Texas it’s basically a forgotten sport lol

  • cencalsteeler

    Vance McDonald’s blocking more than makes up for the few drops he’s had. He’s a huge contributor to the run success and is on my winners list.

  • Zarbor

    If you said Haley, I might buy that for a dollar. The entire coaching staff? Child please.

  • tcirish53@gmail.com

    A NOTE TO STEELERS NATION:
    Guys, this is why we DON’T PANIC when we lay an egg like last week.
    Let’s try to keep it cool when the game does doesn’t go for us (er, like LAST week)!
    To review:
    1. First place alone with a game in hand in Baltimore,
    2. Beat the last undefeated team AWAY from home,
    3. Playing much better on the road than in awhile,
    4. Even with the Pats for home field (should be ahead but the refs ROYALLY screwed the Jets earlier today!),
    5. A game behind for home field for the POs to the Chefs but with a game in hand vs them.

    Life is good – even when the team is not!!

    Relax…. And repeat.

  • Roberto Vaquero Bazán

    ………..?

  • Zarbor

    Sad because I’ve seen Dupree do both technique and speed but he is extremely inconsistent.
    He has it but something ain’t right with him. Relies on his speed way too much. Looks like Jarvis Jones getting run up the arc. Pathetic.

  • TrappenWeisseGuy ;

    True, he didn’t even challenge that 4th down catch/no catch in the end zone. Would any of us be surprised if they’d have overturned that and called it a td?

  • Zarbor

    I’ll buy that for a dollar. You convinced me.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Von Miller is from another planet. Maybe the best pass rusher of our generation and yes I put him ahead of JJ Watt. He just sees the game different.

  • Jaybird

    Dupree is really starting to remind me of a more athletic JARVIS JONES.

  • Q Fourtyfive Unowho

    The most sensible comment I’ve seen thus far!

  • Lambert58

    Deservedly so, Hubbard was awful last week.

  • Jaybird

    He appears to drop a lot more than Dupree. Maybe it’s becuase I focus on watt a lot, but your correct, it seems he drops a lot. I’d love to see what percentage he drops into coverage.

  • Stairway7

    Mitchell sucks bad angles and personal fouls is all he contributes. When can we get Dangerfield back.

  • FanInExile

    Fresh coat of paint on the bandwagon, gentlemen. All possibilities for the season are still available. This proves we can beat anyone, anywhere.

  • Jaybird

    #%!*¥#€*%~!
    Lol jk

  • Reader783

    I agree, the playcalling is just bad. Personally, I think the two key plays on the 2 yard line are power runs and play action passes. What does Haley call? How about a shotgun pass. So Nix truck sticks edge rushers the entire way down the field, but we get to the 2 yard line and it’s time for a shotgun pass now?

    How about we put Nix and Watson in the game and run a PLAY ACTION pass with James to the flat…..after watching our film this season, every team in the NFL would sell out for the run.

  • RyanW

    Good hell judging by the comments you’d think we lost. Some people just ain’t ever happy.

  • FanInExile

    Oh, and Mercury Morris & co. can pop some champagne this year before Halloween. You’re welcome, guys.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Big enough! Lol. It’s not the size of the dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog! The Giants drafted a “TE” in Engram who is basically a WR for them now.

  • Zarbor

    Note to you about Steelers Nation panicking after blow out loss to JAGS at home.

    1. Most don’t lose it when the team loses. Most people are upset when the team doesn’t play well and loses. Especially when our QB has been looking bad even when we win. He wasn’t great today either

    2. Beating an undefeated team means nothing. Just like NE has our number, we have the Chiefs number. Ben is 7-1 against them. Not to mention, we got lucky in this game. Could have gone the other way easily. Win or loss the team played better…not its best on offense.

    3. Home field means little against the Patsies. We have to be better defensively regardless against them. Its starts with calling better plays by the DC now we have the talent. We also need a healthy Bell. Baltimore beats the Patsies at home and on the road in the past. We need to be able to do the same.

    4. Too early to be talking home field. Team has not played up to its full talent potential as of yet.

  • Reader783

    Well they ran out of the traditional WRs…

  • C2K

    I don’t see the logic of punting on the 35. Especially when they were gashing KC with the run and the never used PA could also work.

    You either kick a FG or go for it.

    The Steelers under Tomlin fail to close out games and this is a prime example why.

  • WreckIess

    You would honestly think that the team lost or barely squeaked out a win against a weak team with how this comment section. We get it. It wasn’t perfect, but Jesus.. We just beat the best team in the league at home. No need for a “fire everyone” bloodbath after that. Relax.

  • WeWantDaTruth

    Amazing what Deebo brings to this team. I believe the players raise their game to another level when #92 is on the field…don’t want to tick him off.

  • Edjhjr

    So how do they lose to the bears. This team is maddening

  • Av232

    You think that man eats fruit?

  • SilverSteel

    Lol

  • Darth Blount 47

    Literally. Lol.

  • SilverSteel

    That’s low after a win, but I still chuckled 😂

  • Av232

    Bill would’ve kept Ben on the field with a hard count on 4th, then had him snap it and punt it himself.

  • Reader783

    I mean he’s so much more than a player; obviously our oldest veteran, been on 2 Superbowl winning teams (only he and Ben remain of course). To tell me he can’t dress because he can’t play special teams? Kick the ball through the end zone, punt it out of bounds and forget about special teams then because this dude is the hardest worker on the team, sets the edge and pile drives tackles into the QB week in, week out.

  • Josh

    He’s got Shazier speed once he locks in

  • francesco

    This game had no business going to the last minute of the 4th quarter.
    Loser for me is Tomlin for living in his fears. Should have attempted the 53 yard field goal.

  • Steeler Nation!

    The O line commanded the LOS

  • Reader783

    I would have gone for it over the field goal, but I don’t think punting was a terrible decision given their offensive performance to that point. No need to give them any momentum at all.

  • pcantidote

    This is the craziest the NFL has ever been IMO. Jags look like the 85 Bears every other week and then like the old Jags in between. Miami comes back from 17 down on the road at Atlanta? We can’t win in Chicago but win at undefeated KC? Winless NYG winning at Denver? Sorry folks, as good as we think we have the potential to be, we are right there in the middle of this craziness. Just need to find a way to win every week. 4-2 is looking pretty good. Our D is solid, if our O can just be good (not even the great that it could be) then we have as good of a shot as anyone.

  • J Jones

    Kick a 53 yd fg? How did he fail to close out the game…we won. Have u taken a look at his career record? Maybe you should bro. U realize hes one of the winningest coaches in history right? Not sure what game u watch or where ur expectations are, but u are clearly not being realistic. His defense clowned the best team in football today on the road. Take a chill pill damn.

  • pcantidote

    It has to be why he’s out there over JJ.

  • Mark

    Now I see why Bell wants $15 mln. Ben should give him part of his salary. I didn’t view Ben as a winner, AB made up for the earlier INT. Ben was on his way to number 2. How do you not see the football field after 14 years in the NFL. He should be picking apart defenses at this stage.

    Winners: Bell, AB, Oline, Defense

    Losers; Punter, why would you let Tyreek touch the ball in the 4th qtr. Coaching, not going for 4 and 2s with our offense doesn’t make sense, especially in KC territory.

  • It was one of those plays that was so close they go with what is called on the field. Its doesn’t get over turned either way, even if it was ruled a TD first.

  • SilverSteel

    I thought he learned all kinds of moves from a guru this offseason. One trick pony and the trick is just meh.

  • francesco

    Playing scared gives the other team momentum. Scoring deflates any confidence the opponent may have.

  • Edjhjr

    I personally don’t want to fire anyone. I just want them to play every week like they knew they had a game

  • SilverSteel

    True true

  • SilverSteel

    Love that guy. So much energy!!

  • Reader783

    Ya, not sure it was a playing scared moment. I think it was a smart decision.

  • pcantidote

    Since all the whiners are missing the point allow me to clarify it — Ben is on the winners list because it is clear that the rumors of his demise have been greatly exaggerated. He looked completely unfazed by last week’s game. Sure it wasn’t 500 yards and 5TDs, but he had a nice game and we carry on.

  • pcantidote

    And going for it and failing gives certain fans something to whine about.

  • LOL, classic!

  • J Jones

    Like Ben forcing it to a triple covered Lev while AB was wide open in the endzone

  • The Orville is better!

  • #beatthepats

    Great win!!! Alot of winners!! I actually thought haley called a good game, oline great , defense was savage!
    Only loser- mike mitchell

  • C2K

    A chill pill for what. Tomlin has a track record of poor coaching decisions and losing close games to inferior teams.
    While KC isn’t inferior his decision here is questionable and almost cost them the game.

  • SeventhHeavan

    Absolutely. Or go for it on 4th and 2 from the 35. Instead Berry kicks it in the end zone and should have gone to the 20. A 15 yard net only to be bailed out by a penalty bringing it to the 10. He has one of the best kickers in the league. Doesn’t make any sense.

  • KC went out and got Schwartz because he is statistically the best RT against Von Miller. I don’t know if he’s the best RT in the game but he’s definitely up there. Not unlike our Gilbert fella who is really good but is rarely recognized league wide.

  • tcirish53@gmail.com

    Right but DESPITE what I agree has been a subpar team performance YTD, we are in excellent position. There are no style points in the NFL, just Ws and Ls.
    This time last week, all the panic artists wanted to fire Tomlin, fire Haley, burn down Heinz Field, etc etc.
    Ridiculous

  • Maple Curtain

    The decision to punt was based on Tomlin being stupid and nothing more. What the hell is the point of punting from the 35 if you believe in your defence?

    Either a defence can get a stop within 60 yards or it can’t get a stop. Once an offence has gained 60 yards on a drive late in the game, the other 20 aren’t so hard – the defence gets tired.

    Tomlin seems to be impulsive – inconsistent as hell. He needs to show some guts.

    And guts doesn’t mean throwing challenge flags for giggles when he doesn’t expect to win.

  • Maple Curtain

    No, Belichick is the standard, not Cowher.

    Belichick isn’t gutless – he doesn’t punt from the 35.

    Punting is the dumbest play in football and should only be done when necessary – not as a rule, and never from the other team’s 35.

  • Paddy

    NIXXXX, please tell Haley that he should be in there a lot, I mean most of the time. Like when they had first and 10 at the two and Ben was in a shotgun for two straight plays ridiculous

  • Maple Curtain

    “The Steelers under Tomlin fail to close out games and this is a prime example why.”

    You’re right, but Cowher was the same.

    Almost like he learned from Cowher the adrenalin junkie.

  • Maple Curtain

    Thanks, Bill Cowher. 🙂

  • Maple Curtain

    Not the offence.

  • Reader783

    Or first and goal at the 3….pass, shotgun pitch run, pass

  • J Jones

    Lmao he has a track record of winning. We are 4-2 while playing 4 out of first 6 on the road. Not sure who u are comparing him to but its certainly not anyone thats ever coached football.

  • SilverSteel

    Everyone does get testy when position flexibility is mentioned. Not sure why. Treated like a conspiracy theorist.

  • J Jones

    So the dude with multiple cheating scandals is the standard? Weird

  • SilverSteel

    This just in. The Bears ain’t too shabby.

  • GravityWon

    McDonald didn’t have huge numbers but got his first catch and appeared to block well. Add him & Haden to winners.

  • Alan Tman

    I just want to say one thing. There’s no way in hell that we should have been able to run the ball on any team after the Jacksonville game. People will be making Ben beat them until he proves he can consistently beat man to man.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    hilton all day everyday. senquez who?

  • GravityWon

    Bell did a great job running, but linebackers had blanket coverage on him for most pass plays. Not exactly a number 2 receiver.

  • Maple Curtain

    Cheating?

    You mean like the Head Coach running on to the field to tackle the kick returner? Something like that?

    Glass houses and stones, man.

    Oh, and it’s a good bet that I’ve been a Steelers’ fan longer than you’ve been alive.

  • “Most don’t lose it when the team loses. Most people are upset when the team doesn’t play well and loses. Especially when our QB has been looking bad even when we win. He wasn’t great today either”

    We are 4-2 and today we beat the only team in the AFC who has a better record than us. If you pay close attention to these comment sections you would think we are 0-6 and have already had a complete meltdown…

    You mentioned the Patriots twice in your points. You are either focusing on them too much or not enough. They are quietly statistically the worst defense giving up 440 yards per game as well as the worst rated passing defense. Outside of their week 2 win over the Saints, their other 3 wins were all one score games. They also gave up 33 or more points in 3 games. They are 30th in the league in scoring defense, giving up 26.5 points per game. The Pats are also lacking a dominant pass rusher, as they are 15th in the league with 15 sacks on the year.

    Moral of the story? They can be had. They are not infallible. Tom Brady has to play perfect for them to win games.

    Meanwhile, our defense is very quietly the number 3 overall defense, number 2 in sacks, number 1 against the pass. And if today is any indication, things are looking up against the run.

    It will be a great match up when they come to town, but it’s time to focus in on a Cincinnati team who had an extra week to prepare for us.

  • That last line, LOL this is the internet. Anyone can say anything. Most people take comments like this with a grain of salt…

  • Lambert58

    Not a bad call. Dupree could be good (maybe better) inside.

  • DangZone

    Did Joe Haden play today?

  • J Jones

    U mean youve been a Pats fan obviously. Slight typo by u. That one instance doesnt even slightly compare to yrs of patriots cheating bro. Closet Pats fans lmao

  • GravityWon

    I’m okay with pacing him. He looked gassed by Pat’s game last year.

  • Dshoff

    Alex, Dupree should learn a new move. It’s called “The Wave” and he can do it every time he goes flying by the QB on his “pass rush”. I’m so tired of seeing him beat the Offensive tackle and then not lean in so he doesn’t get pushed past.

  • GravityWon

    Never heard his name. That is a good thing for CB

  • Zarbor

    We ignore those idiots, you should too….Those folks are few though they make the most noise.

  • Maple Curtain

    Back when Chuck Noll was in charge, the Steelers were the standard. Now, envious little ankle-biters like you whine because some other club has set the standard for the past 15 years.

    Why not be a man and hold Art Jr. and Tomlin to higher standards instead of ankle-biting at the most successful club in this era?

    What cheating? Pissing off Goodell the Nancy-Boy is not cheating.

  • sixnine

    alex, Tony Romo was gushing about how great our pass defense is.I take his opinion heavily, yet some ppl act as if we have scrubs back there.No defense or player is perfect but the other team pay players alot of money to beat defenses also.

  • Chad Sanborn

    Feel better keyboard warrior?

  • J Jones

    Someone escort this brady lover back to the Pats board. Hes old and lost.

  • Maple Curtain

    I guess that’s you punting from the other team’s 35 then…metaphorically speaking, of course. 🙂

  • J Jones

    Steelers won gramps. Change ur depends and go to sleep.

  • 695hoops

    STFU

  • Dan

    Considering Ben had three unlucky INTs out of five last week, he can have a lucky TD this week, for all I care.

  • walter

    no more passes for dupree. Its time for him to show why he was a first round pick.

  • Easy to talk smack when behind a computer screen isn’t it?

    Now if you relax a bit, maybe you can enjoy the great victory we had today. We are 4-2 while playing four of the first six games on the road. We also just beat the only team in the AFC who has a better record than us.

    How we got the the 4-2 record is irrelevant, we are there. And improving while stacking wins.

    Season outlook for the Steelers is bright everywhere else but the Depot comment sections.

  • thomas hmmmm

    So far it is number one against the pass as far as yards go. Sure some of that has been because of the terrible run D but considering years past this secondary is the best since Troy Clark and Ike, all except for Mitchell who is the weak link of the group.. I have never hated on him but I am tired of Mitchell now.

  • thomas hmmmm

    We all saw how they lost to the Bears… The Bears ran all over the place and have a pretty nice combo in their backfield.

  • thomas hmmmm

    Ben didn’t look good that in 2005 when he won his first SB either, nor his rookie year, but he always managed to make plays and won a SB.

  • thomas hmmmm

    Not a fan but still here? Your actions speak louder than your words!

  • thomas hmmmm

    At this point I think I would rather see Dupree dropping into coverage since he likes running around so much and let Watt rush and use his technique.

  • thomas hmmmm

    Watt has been getting work inside in what looks like a 4-2 nickle. Saw him lined up several times next to Shaz and I am pretty sure that was before VW went out injured.

  • thomas hmmmm

    I think so too! His straight line speed up the middle would do a lot better than outside on the arc.

  • thomas hmmmm

    Ben was pressured what seemed like most of the game so I don’t know where you get that he was rarely under pressure.

  • thomas hmmmm

    I was thinking the same thing when watching the replay and tried to figure out if at any point he had possession of the ball… Doesn’t matter because league office made the call and not the on field refs. So apparently they thought he never had possession and it wasn’t an int because the ball hit the ground when the cb was rolling over.

  • thomas hmmmm

    Last year with the team most definitely and I expect the Steelers to draft a replacement in the first 3 rounds.

  • Shane Mitchell

    Mike Hilton missed a tackle to give them a TD, not sure I would put him at the top of the list and James Harrison at the bottom like an afterthought, but I understand because Harrison showed that he is the best pass rusher on this team not TJ Watt which is obvious to anyone that knows football.

  • NinjaMountie

    It’s the constant degradation of Ben that is a huge portion of your posts. You just hate Ben. You’ve made it clear.

  • Clutterbox

    I don’t he looked gassed vs the Pat’s, they just played him better. Also Brady still has a quick release and one of the best pocket presence in the game. Beside Harrison was the least of the Steeler’s problems during that game.

  • Carl Mendelius

    Ben still is and still will be inaccurate. He was incredible lucky in the last TD by AB. Mike Mitchell is a total dirty player who likes to tackle using his helmet as a weapon, he should be suspended. Shazier should stop tackling using the helmet as well. Artie Burns and Sean Davis are not improving from last year. Haley has no good plays in the red zone, he is pathetic. The Steelers were extremely lucky, Ben is no longer an elite QB and he was bailed out by AB and Bell.

  • Aaron Dickerson

    Guess you weren’t around or were asleep during the 80’s, because Noll’s teams during that period were definitely not the standard for the majority of that decade.

  • NinjaMountie

    I read your most of your most recent past comments. Are you sure you’re a Steelers fan? I really didn’t see one good statement. Gripe, gripe, gripe, moan, moan, moan. Haley sucks and Ben is terrible. Trade for Kap. Cleveland is the only real winner as they discovered their franchise QB in Kizer, that kid is great (great call btw hahahaha). Back to Ben sucks and fire Haley. More Gripes. More moans.
    Those are your contributions. Must be fun to be so gloom and doom all the time.

  • Michael James

    I just go by what I see and I was underwhelmed/not happy with 3 or 4 of his 5 punts. This has been going on for most of the season.
    We decided to punt while we had really good field position several times and in those situations a good punter has to be able to pin the opponent back inside their own 5-yard line. Maybe 10-yard line if we’re generous. Berry has not been able to do that outside of one punt in the Vikings game.

  • capehouse

    O line played well. Bell played much better.

  • Carl Mendelius

    I am such a fan that I refuse to believe in things that are not good and solid solutions. Don’t get me wrong: I believe Ben still can win in the NFL if, and only if, he realizes that he is no longer 25 and exploits instead his vast experience to make good and solid decisions, he has very good weapons in AB and Bell and a very capable OL. Haley, though, is not a good OC and he is part of the problem not part of the solution for the Steelers to be successful in the red zone in particular. A bad OC can really damage excellent players. Kizer is also a victim of bad coaching and bad team in Cleveland because I am sure of what I saw when he played the Steelers. On the contrary, look how successful is Watson playing with a very nice team and OC in Houston, the same situation is happening in Dallas with Prescott. Another bad example is happening in NY with Eli Manning, good players terrible coaching. The Steelers need much better coaching because they have great players and Ben still can win if he becomes disciplined with a system that fits him.

  • Dorian James

    I thought I seen that too,good to see more variety

  • Dorian James

    Yeah,he isn’t a good outside rusher.
    If Vince can get the sacks he has from the inside, imagine Dupree, who’s much faster.

  • will

    UK fan?

  • will

    Ok bro…….Bro, U realize the facts…u are clearly realistic. Ur chillin and to the pt tho bro……

  • NinjaMountie

    See, I can get on board with this post. It isn’t all gripe, gripe, gripe without explanation.
    While I don’t agree with everything you say at least you attempt to explain it. Less troll like this way.
    Kizer stinks. He was bad at ND and he’ll continue to be bad. Best he can hope for is to stick around as a clipboard holder. I truly didn’t understand the Browns picking him.

  • will

    And the Giants are 0-6

  • Frank

    Couldn’t agree more, is there a way to get him to take collinsworth’s spot? I dread Sunday night games with that clown calling the action.

  • Zarbor

    Seriously? You are comparing 2005 Ben with 2017 Ben and think they are the same? Yup, just like how Ben managed to make plays yesterday when we really needed it. You guys are amazing. I will punt on this one.

  • Conserv_58

    There isn’t anything I disagree with Alex’s breakdown.

    Winners: Ben, Bell, A.B, the offensive line and the defense.

    I would like to add Vance McDonald to the list. He did not have a great statistical game, but that reception to get the Steelers past their one yard line was clutch. He also did a good job blocking on the left side to allow Le’Veon to break some good runs.

    Deebo. Nuff said.

    Vince Williams: Two sacks and was a disruptive force, before being injured. He trucked Hunt twice that made Hunt look like a bug getting hit by a truck. Hunt did get some pay back when he put a tex book stiff arm on Vince that made him look silly.

    Mike Hilton is such a great addition to this defense. He’s the slot corner they’ve been trying to find for a long time. He has such a great feel for the game that he stacks instinctive plays one after the other. That missed tackle in the fourth quarter was his only negative. It was obvious that he was focused on stripping the ball first instead of making the tackle. The again, if Artie was where he was supposed to be Mike wouldn’t have been put in that situation.

    B.J. Finney and Chris Hubbard. Finney had a lot of pressure on him to fill in for the Big Ragu and he did a pretty good job. He had a couple of hickups, but he’s showed he can hold his own in the run game.

    When Gilbert went out with that hamstring I was worried, but Hubbard stepped in and the offense didn’t miss a beat. That’s comforting to see.

    The team. The Steelers went into one of the most hostile environments in the NFL, against a 5-0 Chiefs team riding a hot streak and layed the smack down on them. Yeah, there were some pretty ugly moments, but they did to the Chiefs what no team they’ve played so far in their first five games was able to do.

    Losers: Artie Burns: For allowing himself to be out of position that resulted in the Chiefs’ TD. There was also the play where Alex Smith had a wide open receiver at the goal line and overthrew him. Artie Burns was responsible to defend that part of the field and he was no where near that play. In fact Artie was standing in the end zone behind the goal post on that play. Had the Chiefs’ receiver made that catch it could have been a back breaker.

    Mike Mitchell: I don’t know what goes through Mike Mitchell’s head during plays sometimes. That hit on Smith was pure stupidity and completely uncalled for in that situation. His response was over the top. Had he been penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct that could have been a momentum changing play for the Chiefs. If I’m coach Lake I’d be chewing him out for being wreckless to the point of costing the team the game. Being aggressive is one thing. Being out of control aggressive is another. I expect to see him get fined for that play.

    Bud Dupree: For being invisible. He’s not making the splash plays he’s expected to make at the rate he should. He had another unspectacular and pedestrian performance. He has to develop a signature move that he can use to get underneath offensive lineman. He plays too tall sometimes and ends up getting walked up the arc and out of the play.

    Poor tackling technique is still an issue even though it wasn’t as bad as last week.

    Mike Florio: For being the slimey piece of leftist propaganda spewing garbage that he is. During the Giants game last night, Florio was asked to give an update on Aaron Rogers’ broken collar bone. Florio talked about the injury and how long Rogers is expected to be out. He then brought up coach McCarthy’s post game statement that they are going to go with their backup QB. Then it happened! Florio just had to take that opportunity to speculate on the possiblity that the Packers might look for another QB and as expected that opened the door for Florio to bring up Kapernick’s name, AGAIN, along with his suing the league for collusion. I despise Florio with a passion. He’s a slimy and disgusting weasel whom has no compunction to blatantly inserting his and NBC’s political agenda into his reporting.

  • Conserv_58

    You’re being unfair to Haley. He called a good game against a very good team. He got unfairly lambasted last week by delusional and unrealistic fans. I wasn’t his fault that Ben threw five interceptions with two returned for touchdowns. When your star QB is turning the ball over at that rate the initial game plan goes out the window. Haley didn’t run the ball as much as he wanted to because they had to play catch up football to make up for the number of unprecedented turn overs. Those turnovers were just too many to overcome.

  • Conserv_58

    Hilton attacked the ball and not the ball carrier on that play.

  • Conserv_58

    Mitchell always plays right on the edge and that’s why he’s had penalty issues dating back to when he was with the Panthers. He and the team got real lucky that he didn’t get an unsportsmanlike penalty or worse after that hit on Smith. Mike’s play is feast or famine and he’s a penalty waiting to happen. Carnell should sit him down during tape study and point out that he can’t continue to play like that. Those types of bush league plays can cost teams games.

  • Rob

    I was at the Patriots/Jets yesterday so I wasnt around to see the forum go crazy in what was a game we controlled through 3 quarters haha it was honestly refreshing

    This team still hasn’t reached its ceiling, and it just beat the best team in the league. That’s enough to carry me through this week.

    (Sidenote: The Jets are no where close to as bad as people have pegged them, somehow, and had the Pats struggling for most of the game. But Brady is still Brady. They go as far as he does.)

  • Conserv_58

    IMO, He plays too high. He needs to incorporate more dip and bend to his pass rush. He’s so upright that he gets walked up the arc by offensive tackles because they can get their hands on him.

  • Conserv_58

    LOL! Glad you brought that up because I got thinking the same thing. He played alright, but Ilooked at it as he apparently was doing his job because his name was never mentioned.

  • Conserv_58

    I live in CNY and watched the last half of the last quarter of that game. The Jets didn’t mail it in as some said they were going to. They certainly got jobbed by the officials, big time, on that review of the touchdown, which it was a TD. I chalked that up to being just another occasion when the officials decided in the patriots’ favor.

  • SteelCityDefense

    A lot of Big Ben sympathizers on this site. If this was his best game then we are still in dire trouble.

    Everyone is talking about AB’s 51 yard touchdown but what about the throw. Ben threw into the tightest of windows, to his #1 2 Am day 3 target, and the ball should have been picked off by Phillip Gaines. If I remember correctly this was our drive right after they scored. If Gaines simply catches the ball we could be sitting here talking about the 2018 qb draft class.

    Let’s not throw Ben on any “winners” list because he didn’t play as bad as he’s been.

  • Conserv_58

    There were plenty of other bone headed plays made by other players that were far more egregious than that throw by Ben. Apparently you forgot about how Artie Burns was nowhere to be seen on that overthrow by Smith to his receiver at the goal line. Artie was also out of position on the Chiefs’ touch down in the fourth quarter. Mike Hilton ended up attempting to strip the ball instead of tackling the ball carrier and the TD ensued. Mike Mitchell should have been flagged for U.C. on the hit on Smith. That play could have gotten him ejected from the game. There was still several missed tackles that should have been made had proper technique been applied.

  • Rob

    I couldn’t hear what the referee even said because the boos were so loud haha But I have no idea how the Pats got possession there. I can confirm it wasn’t a TD tho. I was on the sideline on the opposite side, and his knee was down before the ball crossed even though his upper body did. I just didn’t think they’d overturn it bc they ruled it a TD initially. The Jets players were still playing hard despite that, so definitely more respect to them given everyone dismissed them in the offseason.

  • Anthony Palmerston

    I say it on here almost every week. I don’t feel like Burns is as good as advertised. I want to like him. I like his attitude on the field a lot. But it makes me so nervous to see the ball thrown his way..

  • Conserv_58

    I watched the replay of that review at least five times and I thought the ball was far enough over the line vs where his knees were that it should have been a TD. Apparently the review officials thought the same thing since their ruling was the ball carrier didn’t have complete control of the ball all the way through the play. This is where I have a big problem with how they ruled on that play. The rule states that the play stands unless there is irrefutable video evidence to overturn the initial call. In this case the video replay clearly showed that the ball carrier regained posession of the ball before he went down. That play had the same controversy that the “no catch” call in the dallas game did.

  • Stairway7

    I agree. It would have been a 52 yard punt. Well withig Bozz’s range, As it stands they got the ball on the 25. So we backed thm up a whole 10 yards and missed a change and getting up 2 scores.

  • Conserv_58

    FYI, James Harrison is the first Steelers’ player with at least eighty sacks since the sack became official in 1982. He has 80.5 sacks.

  • Steel Realist PAul

    Same, used to watch him play at the U every week. He’s got some skills but he’s got problems that haven’t changed. The fans and writers have been all up in his wagon acting like he’s amazing. I just don’t feel like we’re all watching the same guy.

    Just terrible in run support, gets blocked off of the field many times and can be seen running next to the pile often. Yesterday he ‘hit’ the RB a couple of times without wrapping up and someone else had to make the tackle.

    The couple of broken pass plays are just what was caught. And it’s every week – watch, this will be labeled a bad game. You watch.. lol

  • Steel Realist PAul

    How about the DC? I mean.. this was the number 1 rushing attack.

    #thebutlerdidit

  • SteelCityDefense

    But… none of them are on any winners list. And that’s my point. He isn’t a winner simply because he didn’t play as bad as previous weeks.

    To your other points… the secondary is still our biggest weakness. Everyone keeps talking about Burns but I don’t see it. I barely have anything decent to say about Mitchell. Davis and Haden have been average. We are fortunate to have not played a team with a good drop back and pass quarterback.

  • Matt

    Hate the way stats are skewing the Run Defense numbers. They have been solid outside of 2 games where the opposition had a few big runs.

    Great to see them absolutely dominate in the trenches.

    Big loser today was Mitchell. Did anyone else hear him screaming on that first down where he felt like he made a big hit? Embarrassing. Probably the next to get upgraded?

  • Serious Andy

    Leads by example.
    Hell he’s got me lifting weights now

  • Steve

    Mitchell is one of the hardest hitters with the Steelers, but the cheap shots got to go.

  • Steve

    Don’t understand why the Steelers didn’t try for 3 pts?

  • Matt Correll

    Isn’t it amazing the difference some dumb luck makes?? I’m of course talking about the AB touchdown in the 4th. If the CB comes up with the INT (which would have been a good catch, but was there for the taking– under thrown by Ben), the Steelers likely lose this game. Ben ends up with two INTs, zero TDs, under 300 yards passing, and another pathetic stalled drive deep in the red zone.

    But, instead, the ball bounces into ABs hands, he’s off to the races– and it was huge that he out ran the S, because it is very possible that we do not get into the end zone there if he gets stopped short. So the difference between Ben ending up on the “Winners” list and the Steelers enjoying a win, and Ben being on the “Losers” list, and likely losing the game, all came down to a dropped INT.

  • NinjaMountie

    Not sympathizer….realist. I, for one, am tired of seeing every bad thing that happens blamed on Ben. Shoot, there were even people blaming Ben for MB wanting a trade.
    Yes, he had a horrible game last game and hasn’t been all that sharp all season. Still, he played a good game and he played it at KC while having the scrutiny of the whole league on him. If he can’t be given credit for coming through under those circumstances then I find it hard to believe he will ever be given credit for anything.
    This was his best game all year. That doesn’t mean it will end up being his best game of the year.

  • NinjaMountie

    Maybe, but doesn’t a lot usually rely on a pass here or there? One pass can change a game. Why shouldn’t it be able to change a winners/losers list?
    Luck is part of it. He had some good luck on that throw. Last week he had some bad luck when a deflected ball veers straight toward a defender for a pick 6. He had some bad luck when his WRs slip and it winds up an int. He had some bad luck yesterday that AB completely mucked up and caused Ben’s one int.

  • Matt Correll

    Yeah, it does seem like bad luck has made Ben look even worse than need be recently, and this one definitely made him look better than he should have. 3rd down and 2, with 3:30 minutes to go, trying to protect a 2 point lead, and you throw 10-15 yards down field into double coverage, and under throw the ball? I’m just saying I think we would all be killing him if it wasn’t for some good luck on that play.

  • NinjaMountie

    Well, there is a rather large contingent on here that doesn’t need a reason to hate him.
    Yeah, it wasn’t the best throw and he probably shouldn’t have even tried to throw it. My only point was that Ben was due for some good luck and I’m happy it happened there.

  • ThatGuy

    Well in this case, AB caused Ben’s INT, fumbled a punt and then had a weird miscommunication on that safety free kick.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    can we bring back dangerfield yet? mitchell man… come on.

  • thomas hmmmm

    You missed the point.. The point is they still won a sb with a strong run game and great d

  • Michael Mosgrove

    just rewatched the game. that chiefs td. burns. man. wow.

  • Charles Haines

    No it isn’t. Filming your opponents walk through before the Super Bowl and deflating footballs for 7 years to reduce fumbles IS cheating.

  • popsiclesticks

    I can understand not wanting to kick the FG, but I’d definitely have gone for it rather than punt.

  • popsiclesticks

    Yes, very.

  • popsiclesticks

    Did you watch that game? Belichick actually went very, very conservative at the end.

  • popsiclesticks

    Do you just pretend that the 49ers of the 1980s didn’t exist?

  • popsiclesticks

    Usually they go for the win in those situations. I wouldn’t have punted, but let’s not act like Tomlin wouldn’t be getting crushed for a failed 4th down conversion. People would use the dreaded M-word!

  • popsiclesticks

    Play-calling was so predictable, I mean who didn’t see a wheel route on 3rd and 2 while running out the clock??!?!

    Holds on big runs have been a big problem all year. In many of these situations, they just didn’t convert. It’s always gotta be Haley Haley Haley though.

  • popsiclesticks

    I still though as a general rule would rather have the ball and try to win it myself than be on defense and have to stop the other team from trying to win. At least with this roster.

  • popsiclesticks

    Why does it always have to be the OC? Can the QB throwing touchdowns off people’s helmets and holds killing big runs and receivers not coming up with catches while open on third downs and (I’m assuming) bad routes not have any responsibility for this?

    I have no problem with arguments against play-calling but I hate the “well they aren’t scoring x amount of points, must be the OC” style of argument.

  • popsiclesticks

    I’m pretty sure Ben called the pass play on the first failed RZ trip, and I think I would have done the same thing. KC was daring them to run.

  • popsiclesticks

    Didn’t they do that on the first failed trip? KC stacked the box and I think Ben switched to a play-action pass. Maybe there was no PA but there was definitely a pass that didn’t work on first down against a stacked front.

  • popsiclesticks

    I don’t mind Collinsworth but Romo is awesome. It’s clear how he was so good with undrafted caliber measurables.

  • DSG

    Not only that, but no one is talking about our secondary being elite and hof worthy. Moreover, through 6 games the secondary has played well according to the stats. The same can’t be said of our qb against mediocre competition with an offense flush with talent in a qb driven league. The stats are there through 6 games. He is at the bottom tier of qbs on loaded offense. It’s embarrassing really.

  • popsiclesticks

    I still think Dupree is doing better than most people think. Watt is athleting like mad but still has doesn’t really have much in the way of pure pass rushing.

  • popsiclesticks

    There have been people open almost all year. Haley doesn’t decide who to throw to on most plays.

    The Bears game was the worst example. They were crossing the Bears to death in the second half but the balls would often go to the wrong guy.

  • popsiclesticks

    I thought they were going to eject him and they probably should have. I’ve long thought he was going to cost them a win with a dumb play and I still think it will happen eventually.

  • popsiclesticks

    It got me earlier before I realized that. Had to sheepishly delete my comment.

  • J Jones

    I personally agree. Gimme 84 and 26 when the game is in doubt. But the defense played a historically good 1st half. I cant fault Mike for playing to that fact

  • colingrant

    Bud should save his money (tutored by former NFL’er Chuck Smith) and simply consult with James Harrison for 15-30 minutes after practice. If Bud continues at this rate, (somewhat under-productive) his name is going to be tied to Jarvis Jones’. Much better athlete and better in coverage, but he’s hired to apply pressure and sack QB’s. Prerequisite for the job. Artie grows feistier with each game. Combative with a surplus of attitude and competitiveness. If he can channel that into tackling, we’re in business.

  • PaeperCup

    We seem to be to the Chiefs what the Patriots are too us. No matter the circumstance we are kinda their kryptobnite. You should tell Sabs to come over here! I miss that guy.

  • Josh Knepshield

    I said “might” and I do stand by my comment.

  • Kevin78

    Alex, on the second play, Trai Essex says that Mike Mitchell made the mistake and Artie was correct.

  • Reader783

    I can’t recall which trip it was now, but we were down there 2 times. The one trip I was discussing had the following play sequence as I recall.

    1) Designed pass: Goal was to throw a fade to the corner, which was covered, Ben threw away.
    2) Ran a toss/pitch left for -3 yards (please just power run Haley)
    3) A lazy PA pass, if you can even call it PA since Ben never even faked the handoff motion, it was a straight dropback and had nobody open.

    I also remember a series where we went shotgun on 3rd and goal and Ben threw incomplete on a slant to LeVeon.

  • Reader783

    Watching live and given the immediate response by Artie, I thought MM made the mistake too. Romo said it was 3 deep zone and Artie bailed on his zone, but MM actually ALSO bailed on his zone if that is the case since he ran down to the flat.

    It looked to me that the play design was to have MM and Artie switch deep 3rds to throw off the QB, which Artie clearly did when he bailed to the center of the field, but MM ran straight down to the right flat.

    I only had the one angle CBS gave, so maybe Depot will break this down in film or someone will ask Tomlin at his presser tomorrow.

  • colingrant

    What was Trai eating at the time. Nachos? ………………… just kidding. Couldn’t resist.

  • Dan

    Error on Dupree matchup or not, it’s still fair to put him in the Losers list.

  • Roberto Vaquero Bazán

    No, The degradation of Ben is because of his age, and injuries for his style of play that gave us so much great moments, sadly everything comes to an end, and he doesn’t have it anymore, and this in his own words!

  • Jeff Burton

    Artie Burns had 2 pass deflections and he and Haden shut down the Chiefs wide receivers. His mistake was in zone coverage not in man. If Harrison had been his assignment he would’ve been on him like glue. As it is Burns and Haden are becoming one of the premier CB tandems in the league.

  • Jeff Burton

    Two words, Anthony Chickillo.

  • Ike Evans

    Because penalties will ALWAYS happen…..you can call holding on every play in this league

  • D.j. Reynolds

    It appeared to me that the early ST gaffe (after the safety) was squarely on AB for deciding against catching the ball – it appeared to me he didn’t know the ball was live (whereas JJSS did and dove for it).

  • Mister Wirez

    I think Deebo is STILL the best ROLB on the Steelers roster against the run and getting to a very nimble QB. At 40, JH still deserves a hat every week, even if it’s just on some running downs. He just plays smart-physical football, and seals the edge better than any of the youngsters. As usual #92 is a WINNER.

  • Mister Wirez

    Should have run the ball on 3rd and 4th down, from that spot of the field. I believe that there’s NO way KC stops Bell twice for under 2 yards.

  • Mister Wirez

    LOSER: The “offensive” play calling on 3rd & short.

    The worst play calls seem to be the 3rd and short calls. However, I’m not sure if it’s Haley’s calls or Ben checking in/out of what’s being called. Toss-up but its been bad.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Well he made two big plays so you may want to rewatch.

  • francesco

    Artie Burns and Sean Davis both make me nervous.

  • francesco

    Incredible how the refs bow down to Belicheat.

  • Steve Johnson

    I agree, 3rd &1 and 3rd & 2, the throw it? Now, what Tomlin needs to do is get Ben and Haley in the same room and fix it.

  • Intense Camel

    We go for touchdowns on 3rd down. So stupid.

  • Intense Camel

    He’s the best corner we’ve had since Ike, get used to him. I love when the ball is thrown his way. I only get scared when they run it his way.

  • Steve Johnson

    Ben needs to stick with the script; I wonder how many times he has called an audible out of a running play, he passed it, Int. or Inc. They drove the ball from the 1 yard line into the Redzone, instead of running the ball N picking up the 1st down, they throw it. The combination of Haley and Ben in the Redzone = SMH!

    Now, let me say this, I can appreciate the Black N Gold getting the victory yesterday. They went into K.C. and totally dominated the Chiefs for just over 3 QTRS. However, they need to sustain drives more in the Redzone. Is it Haley’s play calling or #7 making too many audibles?

  • Steve Johnson

    The Hell w/#7 if he doesn’t like it. If this is true, take some of that authority away.

  • Intense Camel

    The defense seems worse because the game is often so close because the offense has done nothing that every time the defense gives up a big play it seems like the end of the world.

  • Intense Camel

    The goalline plays are so predictable. Pass(incomplete), run (no gain), Pass(incomplete), field goal. Sigh

  • Steve Johnson

    Mike Hilton was an UDFA. Sequenz Golson (His teammate in College) was drafted in the 2nd Rd in 2015. By the way, he was drafted about 2Rds too soon then. Bad selection by Colbert. However, Kudos for finding UDFA Gems during his tenure as GM.

  • Mister Wirez

    (a guess), but I think he knew that, and didn’t want to actually say his name, due catching the injury bug.

  • Mister Wirez

    Yeah he needs a spin or swim move. What did Tomlin call Wallace, “a one trick pony”?

  • Mister Wirez

    Pens in playoffs, do it too.

  • Mister Wirez

    Yeah man, the old Dan Krieder helmet splitting blocks.

  • Mister Wirez

    You are NOT wrong. I’d throw in play calling on 3rd down and less than 3 yards to go.

    How many INCOMPLETE, 40+ yard passes have we seen on 3rd and 2?

    15 maybe?

  • Mister Wirez

    You mean you don’t miss the Phil Simms-isms?
    “We talked about”
    “Watch heem”
    Lol.

  • Mister Wirez

    That game should have been put away before the 4th quarter yesterday. The only reason it was close is because the Steelers can’t score TD’s. Same with the Chicago game (+ the run D). But it seems like all that talent is not being used properly. The Red Zone & 3rd and short play calling are the achilles tendon of this team.

  • Mister Wirez

    You’re not wrong, but Ben’s been a lot better than this year. I still question some of the OC’s calls… Especially the Red Zone and 3rd & short.

  • JohnB

    I actually don’t mind Simms as much as everyone else it seems…But Romo is so much better.

  • will

    ALEX, your Winners/Losers articles are the best thing about Steelers Depot after a Steelers game. Thank you.

  • TsarPepe

    If you’re trying to say that his performance doesn’t measure up to the money he wants, then I’ll disagree. This game more than any other proved that he’s on a completely different planet from pretty much anyone else in NFL. How do you even begin to measure in money an extraterrestrial talent like that?

  • Michael Mosgrove

    He’s 39.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    Except chick has outplayed dupree.

  • TsarPepe

    Honestly, I don’t know what you guys are talking about. This is the QB with 9th most passing yards and 10th-most touchdowns IN NFL HISTORY! A game manager?!!! Get a clue…

  • MC

    It seems like there is a formula developing for the offense which is more Nix means more yards. His hit on the PR was beastly too, love the guy.

  • MC

    Loser: the coaching staff for taking this long to let Deebo loose.

  • Jeff Burton

    That’s what I’m saying. AC should be starting.

  • GravityWon

    That wasn’t my point. Even great players should look at their game tape and find areas which they can improve.

    Yes I agree that he is clearly the best back in the league NOW. If he wants to be involved in discussions about best RBs in history he needs to improve his pass routes which will result in more 30+ yard plays. From what I’ve seen this year he might end up 2nd in receptions for the Steelers but that doesn’t make him a #2 receiver. Beating LBs downfield should be much easier than a #2 CB.

  • will

    Mohammed sure can’t.

  • will

    Ben threw the ball behind him! I thought it was a nice catch. Don’t you think Vance was thinking about the drops in the split second that the ball was coming his way? Yet he overcame that and made the play.

  • Conserv_58

    If you or any other fan turned your backs on this team then you were never true fans in the first place. Fans like you are what is called, “bandwagon jumpers”. Your only loyalty is to your egoes.

  • Conserv_58

    IMO, Chickillo is better at working his way through the scrum than Bud is. He’s more heavy handed and ir seems as though he bull rushes with more power. As I said previously I think Bud plays too high. Watch him rush as you’ll see how his lack of bend and dip allows the tackle to get his hands on Bud and simply walk up the arc. Bud doesn’t have the kind of bend and dip that elite pass rushers have. Bud has no signature move that separates him from the also rans. What kills me is he has the best example of how to employ the bend and rip technique in Deebo.

  • Conserv_58

    BAH! His age has nothing to do with his not being sharp. Look at Brady. He’s five years older than Ben is. It has everything to do with his mind set. Furthermore, take a look at him. That’s not the body of an athlete. It’s obvious that he doesn’t work out in the off season. He works on his golf game though. I’ve always wondered what he could have accomplished if he took his physical conditioning more serious in the off season and got himself in peak physical shape.

  • Conserv_58

    That’s alright. I live in the north east. I never played the game and I don’t watch it. Then again, I don’t watch any other pro team sport either. I used to love baseball as a kid, but I gave up on baseball decades ago. I do manage to catch part of a game here and there, but pro football is the only sport that I care to watch with any regularity. I do enjoy watching some college football, depending on the game. This weekend has number two ranked Penn State playing nineteenth ranked, Michigan St. That’s going to be a good game.

  • Conserv_58

    He won’t receive a contract extension.

  • Conserv_58

    That is complete nonsense! Martavis is most certainly is a deep threat.

  • Conserv_58

    What are you talking about?! On the contrary, to think that Ben is merely a game manager is complete and utter nonsense. To think otherwise shows you have a limited ability to see and understand what it is you are seeing. Game manager… give me a break!

  • Conserv_58

    Lee Travino said, “Not even God can hit a one iron.”

  • Conserv_58

    I guarantee that if Ben retires and the Steelers look to the free agent market for a QB, Mike Florio will be screaming and foaming at the mouth for them to sign Kapernick.

  • Conserv_58

    Come on. This is Skip Bayles.

  • Conserv_58

    On Dupree. Watt would take his job and they start Chickillo with Deebo in reserve. Chickillo is much better than Bud is at getting through the scrum. Bud can be seen consistently getting ridden up the arc because he plays too high. He has no dip or bend to his pass rush and he has no signature move. Chickillo is more heavy handed than Bud is. Bud’s attempt at hand fighting gets him too caught up in playing pattie cake instead of quickly disengaging from OL tackles. I’m surprised that Joey can’t seem to coach that out of him.

  • Conserv_58

    To be fair TJ is still a rookie learning to transition to the NFL. He’s going up against men and not almost men anymore. I expect him to follow his brother, J.J.’s lead when it comes to his off season conditioning.

  • Conserv_58

    LOL! Hilton was an undrafted free agent. They drafted his college teammate, Golson in the second round of the 2015 draft.

  • Conserv_58

    And? The guy doesn’t get to play much, let alone get quality reps with the starters. Then there is the simple fact that a lot depends on match ups.

  • Conserv_58

    Now, Skip, your cowboys are not tearing the league up either.

  • Conserv_58

    I pretty sure they won Sunday night which makes them 1-5.

  • Brian Miller

    No one said his whole career was like that, but he has been playing like that recently, and the Steelers have been winning in spite of him, not because of him. He definitely played better this past week, but he has not been able to complete passes in the 4th quarter, and the red zone offense is atrocious. If you don’t agree with that, well then I guess you need to get a clue.

  • Conserv_58

    It’s stunning how this team get a case of the yips when the field shrinks.

  • Conserv_58

    You obviously haven’t comprehended how the game has changed since Chuck Noll’s days. Cowher took over the team in 1992, the very same year the league adopted free agency. He was the Steelers’ first head coach to have to learn how to deal with it and all that came with it. Cowher has admitted that the game has changed a lot since his tenure as the Steelers’ H.C., especially seeing how the current CBA has limited the amount of time teams are allowed to conduct practices with their players. Chuck Noll would have hated to coach in this current NFL system.

  • Conserv_58

    I have said time and time again that even before Deebo walks on to the playing field he owns whom ever he’s tasked to go against. It goes without saying that most players in the NFL watch Deebo’s instagram videos. That’s why no other player in the NFL is more feared than Deebo is. There is no doubt in my mind that the Chief’s LT, Eric Fisher gets a case of night sweats the night before the game. Then on game day when Fisher sees the man beast walk onto the field and give him that patented thousand yard, I’m-gonna-take-your-manhood, glare, Fisher’s bowels begin to let go.

    That’s what having Deebo on the team means and Keith Butler knows it.

  • John Smith

    Haley called a good game? 450 yards for 17 points? What?

  • T3xassteelers

    Yeah I feel you! Football is obviously #1 but I always watch baseball (go Astros!), CFP (I go to Texas tech haha) and soccer too. Don’t care for the NBA but CBB is fun. However I am rooting for PSU for the top teams cause im so sick of bama and the OUs of the world

  • Dorian James

    Absolutely!, he has plenty of good examples right there on the team, and he still attempts to go around the edge on a regular basis. I’m starting to think all he is is athleticism and nothing more. It would be interesting to see what he looks like next to Ryan Shazier in the middle

  • Roberto Vaquero Bazán

    I Totally agree with you, but I have to talk about Ben kindly because theres a lot of fans in this forum that can’t stand The Thruth, or are Ben’s relatives.
    Ben started his decline once he started thinking about retirement and declared his non comittment to play football!

  • Taylor Williams

    You missed the joke

  • Taylor Williams

    Joke flew over your head

  • will

    You are correct. Wishful thinking on my part.

  • Darth Blount 47

    Personally, at this point, I’d start James and let him rotate with Chick if that were the case. I saw enough to believe that Deebo has one last great run left in him.