Martavis Bryant Returns As Starter, Not Worried About Tomlin’s Comments

A week after getting banished to the scout team, Martavis Bryant was back in his usual spot for the Pittsburgh Steelers’ Monday practice. Per the PPG’s Ray Fittipaldo, Bryant said he resumed playing with the first team.

“I’ve been running with the 1s today, so I assume I am,” Bryant said when asked if he will play this Sunday against the Indianapolis Colts.

Bryant was inactive for the Steelers game before the bye, benched by Mike Tomlin for repeated social media distractions. Following the win over the Lions, Tomlin said he was “not” confident Bryant will be able to help the team the rest of the season.

Bryant was asked his reaction to those comments today.

“It’s not my business to worry about what someone else says,” he told Fittipaldo. “You have to prove yourself to him. I wasn’t down on myself about what he said.”

Obviously, there isn’t much that needs to be repeated about Bryant’s saga. It’s been a frustrating year dating all the way back to training camp when the league dragged their feet about finally reinstating Bryant. It took until halfway through camp, compounding the issue of time missed and with very little time to get back on the train. With his struggles this season and JuJu Smith-Schuster’s impressive play, Bryant has had his snaps scaled back and his role in the offense diminished.

The Steelers will have to hope they bye calmed things down and reset Bryant for the remaining half of the season. He’s still a key part of the offense, capable of scoring on any given snap, and while there’s still been problems, he and Ben Roethlisberger have been closing on hooking up for a few big plays this year. Not all the issues on the field have been his fault.

In 2017, Bryant has just a lone reception of 40+ yards. In each of his other two years, he’s had five each. That big-play potential is still there. If Bryant can handle things right off the field, he’ll be much better for it come gameday.

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  • SeventhHeavan

    Now IF Ben can hit him on the long ball, we’ll be in business…

  • heath miller

    yep IF ben can hit him and IF bryant can turn around soon enough to track he ball … IF hose two IFs can true on every play thy would score a TD every time .. but thats a BIG IF seventh .. keeping fingers crossed … HEATHHHHHHHHHh

  • EdJHJr

    First you must throw the ball to him.

  • Ichabod

    Then he must catch it

  • pittfan

    Let’s get this show on the road! Lace em up Martay, the rock os coming your way!!

  • DirtDawg1964

    I want to see him have a big second half of the year. If we can get him untracked it creates a ton of room for AB and makes it very difficult for opposing defences. At least one of AB, MB and JuJu would get single coverage – can’t double them all up.

    MB having a monster second half would be a nice problem to have.

  • pittsburghjoe

    Give me an M, Give me an E, give me a S, give me a S. What’s that spell…. mess. Almost like eating chicken wings in a white dress shirt.

  • Doug Andrews

    Time to rip it up during the second half MB

  • PA2AK_

    The journey back for him isn’t over. Hopefully (for Steelers and him) he got the memo with the week off. JJSS having a big game can only help MB with motivation

  • Jaybird

    I’d be surprised if Bryant finishes out his rookie contract. The guy is a freak of nature but I just don’t think it’s going to work out with him ,Ben, and the team. I’m not hoping for it, but I’m not going to be surprised if he’s cut this year or cut/traded before next. I know I’m going to take a lot of flack for saying that , but it won’t surprise. Hope I’m wrong and he goes off the second half of the year, but…..

  • Joeybaggadonuts

    And the run game is throwin a hotdog down the hallway

  • thomas hmmmm

    I hope he used his free time to clean up some of the people in his life. He is the one doing all the work that is going into his career he doesn’t need someone putting his business out there and causing havoc for him.

  • PaeperCup

    Sooo much potential. Cmon offense, lets pull it together.

  • Steeldog22

    Just put Brown Bryant JuJu and Bell out there together, mix in some Rosie very now and then, shake and serve. Don’t get cute. Don’t overthink it. Let the talent do what it can do.

  • PaeperCup

    What if we knew this was Ben’s last season, is Martavis worth keeping around for a new QB?

  • dany

    And that kids, that’s how passing and receiving works in football

    Now on to carrying. First you give him the ball

  • JNick

    Can we stop acting like his drop in production is just on Ben. This guy smoked himself out of half of his football career. Hes not been the same player this year as previously and he’s not been effective. Partly because Ben hasn’t been hitting him as well as he has previously and mosyly because Bryant isn’t making plays.

  • SkoolHouseRoxx

    Let’s get back to business, shall we?

  • James Churchwell

    I haven’t given up on my man MB, and I NEVER will, I said from the beginning of the season he’s going to have a monster come back season and he will do just that…and my NFL Rookie Of The Year( JuJu) will continue to be awesome as well…..Remember me when it happens 🙂

  • Jaybird

    The guy is a beast and I wish him well , but I don’t know. I guess it depends on what Colbert and Tomlin think of him. I do know this – if Ocho Cinco, Randy Moss and T Owens could all be suspended, cut, or traded with their resumes , then so can Bryant.
    Again I’m not hoping the Steelers get rid of MB, I just have a feeling he does not finish his Rookie contract with us.
    What’s your take on MBs future

  • walter

    Ben told him the ball was coming his way and he didnt bother to look up. I think MB has a concentration issue.

  • melblount

    “…I said from the beginning…he’s going to have a monster come back season and he will do just that…”

    Hmmm…did you say “season” or “half season?”

  • walter

    I can see him being cut as well. And i hope im wrong. I really hope MB can get it back together mentally.

  • melblount

    MB is on a very short leash. Trusting MT has the choke chain at the ready if/when needed.

  • walter

    Who was the poster that predicted that he didnt think MB would have a good season?. He insisted that we didnt know if he could be the same player after all that happened. Who was that poster?? Nobody believed him including myself. He was right all along. Anybody remember? I owe him an apology lol.

  • francesco

    There’s a new generation of quarterbacks out there ?(Watson Prescott Wentz Goff etc.) Ben looks like a fossil in comparison. A new quarterback will want to have a guy like MB to throw it to.

  • Zombie Nixon

    He should not be starting..

  • SteelersGeek4Lyfe

    The weird thing is Ben has been overthrowing people on deep routes. Hard to understand.

  • mezzetin1

    None of those non-fossils have any skins on the wall. Slow your roll.

  • gdeuce

    playing with the first team is not starting

  • Brenton deed

    They won’t cut him … if he doesn’t light it up in the second half of the season then someone will sign him to a speculative deal or offer a trade that the Steelers like and they’ll get compensation or a compensatory pick.
    If they can carry Hunter they can carry a sulking Bryant… maybe with more opportunity Hunter blossoms?

  • Zenyatta

    If my boss told me he wasn’t confident in my ability to perform at a high level, let alone perform on any level, I would be worried

  • Roberto Vaquero Bazán

    I would do that!

  • Matt Manzo

    And your tie keeps falling into the plate!

  • jsteeler

    SevenHeavan, I could not have said it more eloquently.

  • PaeperCup

    Completely agree. Sometimes the headache just isn’t worth it. Plus wih tthe Steelers track record of drafting capable WRs, I think they are confident they will not miss him.

    In regards to a new QB, it’s nice to have a young kid come in with a set of veteran WRs, but at the same time he’ll experience growing pains with veterans just as he would with other young wrs. Still got AB and JuJu too.

  • jsteeler

    Those smoking comments are not welcomed or are they funny or stunning anymore. Dammit. That was over 2 years ago. Steelers Depot, can somebody ban this dude.
    If you can’t empathy as a human to understand mistakes happen and second chances are warranted then you should keep your Dumb ass comments to your Mom.

  • jsteeler

    Ben isn’t the same from 2-3 years ago. WR’s on this team make a lot of great Adjustments catches off of Ben’s poor throws.

  • PaeperCup

    YeahI know your take. I tell you what though, Elway looked like a Fossil in 97-98, but was still a heck of a competitor.

    Whatever New QB comes in, comes in with AB and JuJu and a stout Oline that’s good to go for another half decade at least. Bryant would be a nice compliment, but I don’t think it’s essential…..But I just thought the scenario is one to consider when we talk about Bryants future. I personally don’t see him with the team either way.

  • jsteeler

    Ben also over threw Hey Bey wide open in the end zone without a defender 10 yards within sight. The eye test is more accurate than what Ben says.
    The Steelers need new young blood under center with all these weapons and with the speed of opponents defenses today.

  • jsteeler

    That is the DUMBEST thing I’ve heard today. Juju motivating Martavis? I’m sure him being a Father and his love and respect for his faith & Family is his motivation. If Ben could find MB more often this whole team would be better. MB could be the best WR on this team. His problem is that he has depending on Ben to help him and Ben won’t until Ben wants to. #FACTS

  • GravityWon

    Steelers need to limit throwing long bombs when coverage is tight. It is a very low percentage pass. Focus on 10-20 yard check downs. Once consistent within that range the longer routes will become more open.

    Joe Montana would pick people apart a few yards at a time. And then BAM all of a sudden he’d find Rice open for a 60 yarder. Seldom forced the long pass because he was one of the most intelligent QBs.

  • jsteeler

    I bet if Landry Jones or Rookie Josh Dobbs would get MB the ball. As soon as coverages roll to AB MB has to be open from a speed and height advantage. Just throw him the ball and let MB make a play. 1 50/50 ball to MB is either a catch or pass interference.
    The Best catch MB has ever made was with Landry jones in the back of the end zone vs the Bengals.

  • jsteeler

    Thomas, Good statement. At the end of the day I know Martavis is thankful the Steelers stood by him while he was getting his depression issues and addiction under control. He also said Pouncey and Foster stayed in contact with him keeping him inspired to get clean and come home. MB is here and he is going to stay. Coach Tomlin said: We have invested too much time and effort in Martavis. “He isn’t going anywhere”.

  • Rocksolid20

    Why does all conversation about MB start with IF IF IF ?

  • jsteeler

    Why do you come to a National Syndicated website and Lie like that? TROLL.
    Let’s get Verbatim.
    Coach Tomlin was asked: Coach at this time do you think Martavis can help this team?
    Coach Tomlin said No.
    That was 2 weeks ago.
    Obviously, since his talk and the satisfactory combined actions of MB, Coach is now confident.
    Well see him as the SRSWR (Starting Right Side Wide Receiver) on Sunday @ Lucus Oil Stadium.

  • NinjaMountie

    LOL, that was a little harsh.
    I don’t know about any of his other posts but I can definitely agree with this one. MB BETTER be worried, not only with what Tomlin said, but with JuJu grabbing even more of his snaps.
    I think we’re all hoping he breaks out and is the player we all thought he’d be. I know I still am.

  • NinjaMountie

    I can see a trade but he’s still under contract for next year so a compensatory pick is still three years away.

  • Axel

    I just want to see the Steelers score some damn touchdowns. 6-7 field goals a game is not going to get the Steelers to the Super Bowl. I could care less who is getting the most passes thrown their way………hell if Robert golden has to throw TD’s to DHB, I am all for it

  • NinjaMountie

    If, IF, Ben retired at the end of this year I don’t see them keeping Bell. I think they’d use his money to go out and get Cousins and draft another RB high. That’s what I would do, anyway. Why gamble on an unknown QB low in the draft when you could set your team up to keep competing for SBs by bringing in a proven, top-notch, QB.

  • Carl Mendelius

    Has anyone wonder why the Steelers have been so good against most teams and so bad against a few teams in the last ten years? My point is that is due to scheme not players. Their scheme does not match up well against the current Pats, Eagles, Cowboys, and Packers with Rodgers not injured.
    The main problem for the Steelers right now, and the last ten years, is not MB or even the very poor play of Ben, the problem is that they have not changed their defensive scheme one bit, their current success defensively consists of executing better the same old scheme of “bend but not break” or “pressure with the front seven and play it safe with the secondary”. Detroit gained all kinds of yardage against them recently but could not score enough. But the Pats will have a picnic in December with them, as usual. The Steelers needed to change completely their defensive scheme ten years ago just to compete with the Pats, Rams, Eagles, Cowboys that have high precision QBs which also have kryptonite to kill the Steelers old defensive scheme. But they did nothing schematically, hiring Haden was a very nice move but not nearly enough, unless, of course, they are happy just wishing the Pats get beaten in the playoffs before they face them, like when they won their last couple SBs.

  • Jaybird

    I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for Hunter to blossom.

  • FATCAT716

    That was on Hey Bey & he admitted to not getting the depth on his route. We see the finish produce an over thrown ball or a incompletion but don’t always see things in it’s entirety

  • JNick

    I don’t believe you are a mod here. I wasn’t trying to be funny or make a joke. If you are so sensitive to the truth that you feel the need to fly off the handle and swear, maybe you should take a self imposed break…

  • SilverSteel

    It’s like he forgot how to fight for the ball. Now it seems it has to hit him perfectly or no catch.

  • SilverSteel

    Hey bro, this is an open forum. Banning him would mean most of us deserve the same. He has a point. Bryant looks lethargic during combat catches. No fight at all. That deserves criticism and he did screw himself and then act like a brat. Let the fans vent a little.

  • SilverSteel

    You said nothing out of line. Truth bombs hurt sometimes.

  • SilverSteel

    Certainly needs to get his head right…

  • lone pistol

    Ben had no problem finding chemistry with JUJU after a few games. Face it Bryant has not played well so far. The suspensions hurt his development that’s all on him. Ben needs to clean up his play but Bryant needs to get his game together.

  • SilverSteel

    Agree. Makes sense. We have a great talent pool. Need a game manager QB to keep winning if we don’t hit the jackpot in the draft. Cousins or comparable would really thrive on this team.

  • SilverSteel

    Yes but MB isn’t making the 50/50 catches. He’s not fighting for the ball. That would make all the difference.

  • Brenton deed

    Yes I meant they carry him next season and then let him walk if they don’t trade him in the next offseason. Of course this all pre-supposes that he doesn’t do much from now on. In any case they may decide he’s too high maintenance and trade him regardless.

  • Jim Foles

    That time is now here.

  • Intense Camel

    To be fair he hasn’t really been thrown any jump balls

  • Intense Camel

    Lol no, ben missed him plain and simple

  • Steel Realist PAul

    This will last for literally one game, unless Bryant gets everything he wants and clearly needs against Indy.

  • Steel Realist PAul

    Chill man.. not everyone who is critical of MB is on a drug raid. But there is a point there. Bryant is acting like he deserves certain things when he is the person who caused this situation, right?

    Ben hasn’t been Ben. But Bryant HAS had chances and he’s made few plays as well. See the Chicago game, and not just the opening bomb Bryant dropped, but the 2 -3 balls thrown to him in the end zone that he got hands on but didn’t catch.

  • Steel Realist PAul

    He was on a tear last year before his injury. He did have some decent stat games afterward, but it feels like he stepped off the accelerator in some way, either with prep or conditioning or.. maybe he’s just getting older.

  • Steel Realist PAul

    What if we knew this was Bell’s last season with the Steelers?

  • Aj Gentile

    He’ll be on the roster to finish the season. If they were to cut him it would’ve happened. Next year though is a different story.

  • Michael Mosgrove

    Seasons can’t be monster if you’re barely there.

  • Brian Miller

    Well played good sir…

  • NickSteelerFan

    Why can’t they try Martavis as a KR? He’s a big, fast body and I’m sure he would love the extra touches. It can’t be much more pedestrian than it has been so far this year. He’s great in open space, so I think it could work

  • Brian Miller

    Why do I get the feeling this really is BB’s last year in the league? I think he looks frustrated with the coaching staff, play calling, clock management, drama from teammates, and maybe his own play at times. If that is the case, I think the argument can be made that Bell will be even more valuable to this offense with a new QB next year. Maybe Cousins? Not sure, more confident that they draft one in the next draft in the 1st round. I hope he plays better down the stretch, he has been a great QB for us and the organization, and I want him to retire playing well with his head held high, not shaking it like he sometimes does now. Let’s go boys!!!

  • PaeperCup

    RB one area I think may take a hit, and we may struggle to replace. So new, rookie or Veteran QB, will have to carry the load because the run won’t be as big a feature.

    Do you think Connor has potential to be a replacement? Or at very least a placeholder? I do think he’s better than Dwyer/Redman.

  • PaeperCup

    Tough call. I don’t think Ben can win without Bell. Ben is a competitor and a leader, but I think the run has to carry the load of this offense. So what does that mean for Martavis? I don’t know…

    We have 4 stars, Ben, AB, Bell,Bryant. Pick two. haha.

  • ThatGuy

    This might be an upcoming Friday Night Question but I think MB has 5 rec 117 yds 1 TD Sunday.

  • Russell Stauver

    Can someone suspend jsteeler for a personal foul on someone with a different viewpoint.

  • Russell Stauver

    That’s a second personnal foul on jsteeler. He should now be ejected from this duscussion.

  • Crashcrash777

    Then he must hold on to the ball and start running

  • Rob

    We got to see AB make a mistake on his slant that caused Ben’s pick against the Chiefs, and so I wonder how many mistakes are made by the WRs that we just don’t get to see because they result in an incomplete or “bad throw”. You’d have to imagine they make more mistakes than AB does.

    That said, Ben no doubt needs to be better, but MB needs to realize that every receiver on the team was dealing with the same less than ideal Ben. Make it work.

  • Rocky Stonecipher

    He said ‘ass’. Im sorry but if that offends you, you really need to get off the internet.

    and I have to agree with him, I am more tired of hearing pot smoking cracks on Martavis and Leveon Bell than I can tell you. Id rather hear the ignorant chants of fire Tomlin or Haley.

  • Joe Clovis

    Lately it seems like Ben has become content to just put the ball in a general area and counting on his receivers to make the play instead of using the precision he’s capable of. In infantry terms, it looks like he’s lobbing grenades instead of being a sharpshooter.

  • HiVul

    Half of his career is over? Lmao. Did you buy your stuff from MB’s dealer?

  • heath miller

    i could have have said it far more eloquently ….. but thought the way i said it was more drawn out.. lol ..

  • Applebite

    Notice how the media desires to drive a wedge between the player and the team? This is very much the issue I have with the media out of New England. To see it from a Pittsburgh reporter though…

    I mean, perhaps Bryant used the wrong words, that makes it implied that he doesn’t care about what his coach says. But that’s how it comes off when you read it. And it basically tells the reader that “this guy is cancer.”, when you take it word to word.

    But if you put on your thinking cap, it obvious that, this isn’t what Bryant was saying at all. This response was a 2 part answer to that question. 1. MB knows he can’t get caught up with what others say about him. And 2. He knows that Coach T wants to see positive results to maintain his good favor.

  • Charles Haines

    here’s a slice of encouragement: 5 of the Steelers first 8 games were against top 10 pass defenses. The rest of their schedule should be easier for Ben and MB to do some damage.

  • MintDragon

    Fire Arians!

  • JNick

    He has been suspended for half of his career so far…thats a pretty self explanatory statement.

  • JNick

    Sweating is swearing. I’m not offended. I just question the restraint of someone who takes such offense to a simple statemtment and devolves to that so quickly.
    You don’t need to insert your interpretations of how it makes me feel to try and make a point…

  • Jack Hambert

    Wow really? So the media invented this drama out of whole cloth? How about he shut up and get back to work, at least until he has another “positive result”.


    I think your assessment has some truth in it…the reality is you can’t miss a complete season, come back just before camp and expect to pick up where you left off…Ben and AB are in sync with each other because they have worked many years together…so in the heat of the battle…who do you expect him to go when he needs it the most?

    More than anything Haley needs to run Bryant on more than a deep route and a slant…deep ball are needed but they are lower percentage passes of course.

    Hopefully Bryant and his GF can play the remainder of the without social media being in the middle of it.

  • Bradys_Dad

    I’m with most who have, up until now, been unimpressed with Ben’s performances thus far this year. That’s not implying that he’s not an elite QB or has lost his arm or sight or any of the other wildly tossed about comments. I still believe in Ben and at this evolving juncture of his career I’d rather see him managing the game more than trying to be the superstar.That’s what the other 3 Bs are paid to do. Much like Brady, if Ben manages the game by doing the best he can at check downs, dispensing the ball to the best option (even if it means routine 10-20 yard shots) then the entire offense will be better off for it. He has a well above grade line to protect him, arguably the best RB in the league to hand off to, at least 1 if not 2 (maybe 3?) phenomenal WR’s to look downfield for and even a couple of TEs who at worst are average. I am happy as pig in mud if Ben simply manages the game (i.e. minimizing turn-overs) to the best of his ability and allow the star-studded players around him do their thing. Quite honestly, Brady has done this for years (in the Pat’s system) and has been incredibly successful with a lot less talented supporting cast.

  • JNick

    I agree. All we heard was about his development as a WR and his improved route tree, but come Sundays it’s get sweeps, WR screens and deep balls. Id love to see him more involved in the offense, the caveat to that being I don’t trust him at this point as more than a 3rd WR.

  • JNick

    And please point out my “pot smoking crack”. It wasn’t a joke. He has smoked himself out of half of his career so far. That is truth. I’m sorry that you are tired of hearing it.


    I really don’t care about WR1, 2, etc…we know Ben is going to AB most of the time and he should…he’s gaining more in confidence with Juju…some of that is Juju making plays for him…the other is where Juju is on the field.

    Haley and Ben need to get MB imo 5 to 6 shots a game…as we’re saying more diverse routes….with his speed the deep out and the comeback routes have to be there, but for a play that often requires the QB to let it rip before the WR is out of the break, they probably don’t have the timing down for that.

  • JNick

    The issue I have with him getting 5 to 6 shots per game is that’s 2-3 incompletions based on his catch rate. If rather see him improve his numbers and earn more targets than them just being sent his way.


    I here ya, but kind of a catch 22 there JN.

    His catch rate is not going to be like an AB or even JSS with the type of targets he’s getting.

    No, imo any starting caliber or slot receiver needs more than 2 or 3 targets a game. I wouldn’t just throw him 5 or 6 deep balls just to appease him…he does have to work on his routes, but when a player knows they are the 1st read on the play…they are going to bust it to be open.

  • JNick

    Fair enough point. I want him to be more productive. I am just leery about his ability to be consistent. That’s one thing I don’t worry about with AB and Bell.

  • francesco

    Ok I can entertain this thought but not Cousins.

  • francesco

    If only Ben can turn it around?!

  • NinjaMountie


  • NinjaMountie

    No, not Conner but a high round draft pick will net a highly functional RB.

  • francesco

    Not good at protecting the ball. Gets intercepted quite often and fumbles the ball too.

  • walter

    You mean the one that bounced off his fingers?

  • Ehrren Lee Phyzeque

    Well, maybe Roethlisberger would be a better quarterback at this point in his career and be better able to hit players like Bryant on the Deep ball AND others and not be considered such a mediocre quarterback at this point in his career; maybe he’d be more accurate and have a better deep ball period, if only Roethlisberger hadn’t raped those two young ladies. Maybe if Roethlisberger wasn’t such a rapist he’d be an NFL MVP by now and a better quarterback. See how that works, that is if you like to play the low blow game.

  • Applebite

    Yeah, they did. Gotta get those numbers up. Any little ant hills out there? Better turn them into mountains. As far as MB shutting up, I think he answered that one for you.

    “It’s not my business to worry about what someone else says,”

  • NinjaMountie

    I looked at the top QBs in the game: Brady, Brees, Ryan, Rodgers and how many fumbles they have had since 2015 (first full year for Cousins). He’s right in the average. Guess who has the most? Brady
    As far as his Ints. I’m not going to argue that he could improve, though he is no where near bad. I think he will as he’s only in his 3rd year starting.
    He was 29 to 11 in 2015, nearly 3 to 1. He was 25/12 in 2016 (2 to 1). He is 13/4 this year and at least one of his ints was batted at the line. I see no problem with ints. I also watch him play frequently and he doesn’t have a problem. Granted he isn’t Rodgers or Brady but, then again, no one is.

  • Richard Gray

    Only Tomlin can make a difference here. We are fortunate to have a premiere running back to use against teams that are weak against the run. We also have a top group of receivers for the opposite situation. Tomlin needs to make some of these athletes understand that it’s about more than the money. If everyone plays his part–team first–there will be enough Super Bowl rings to go around to everyone.

  • JNick

    Ok. I’ll bite. Lets dissect your glorious post.
    What you’re talking about happened in 2010, going on 7 years at this point. He was ultimately suspended 6 games, reduced to 4. So he lost 4 games of his career due to mistakes he made. 4 games, 7 years ago. If you think that’s affecting him in any way today or even think it’s logical to compare a 4 game suspension 7 years ago, to 20 games of suspension over the past 3 years, then I have no more answers for you.
    It’s illogical, it’s poorly thought out, it’s not even a good trolling post.
    Poor execution on your part. Very poor.

  • walter

    The one that bounced off his hands? Yea a little overthrown maybe.

  • walter

    So far all the guys that said that he would have a monster season are wrong lol

  • Ehrren Lee Phyzeque

    Hmmm, so you like logic. Well I’ll be sure to execute a little better & give you a little more logic. Let’s start with day one of the Roethlisberger era & allow you to continue your dissection with some history you seem to have forgotten. Lemme remind you Roethlisberger has been a problem since he arrived. Arrived overweight and out of shape, eg known for being “Big” Ben & not known for his conditioning. (rookie Roethlisberger literally walks thru the front doors with a missed opportunity by being out of shape). First two seasons Roethlisberger was known for leaving the locker room too early after meetings and practices so much so Joey Porter pulls him aside and puts him on notice. Another MISSED early opportunity by Roethlisberger to improve his craft & get better. Young Roethlisberger now has reputation and never known for Manning-like film study, not a student of the game. Roethlisberger dumb hard-headed off-the-field indiscretion nearly kills himself in a motorcycle accident, obviously hurts himself and the team. MISSED opportunity. Still flawed & flaws show early as he ad-libs too much, holds ball too long, & absorbs too many hits. Can’t sit in the pocket in a traditional style because he never put in the work at that point in career to improve. Bruce Arians actually hinders his development and Arians ultimately fired. Btw, mind you, Roethlisberger obviously involved in not one but TWO off-the-field indiscretions for the very same exact offense two summers in a row = TWO more MISSED opportunities. So insert the Rooneys, the Rooneys at this point have to intervene (Tomlin useless). Ownership has to literally hire a tutor to teach a 9 year NFL quarterback how to play his position. In comes Todd Haley to do just that. AMAZINGLY, immediately, instantly Roethlisberger loses 20 lbs and declares he’s in the best shape of his career. Basically, Roethlisberger coasted for 9 years from a conditioning standpoint, ie MISSED 9 years worth of opportunity. Haley’s on the scene, Roethlisberger childish, pouts & rebels against Haley. Eventually Roethlisberger has his best two years of his career in 2014 and 15 because he FINALLY put in some necessary work and disciplined himself. Just not enough and still isn’t and it shows. The Pittsburgh Steelers have gone through two head coaches three offensive coordinators & countless offense of players and yet the same problem persists since Roethlisberger got here. Which is they can’t score in the red zone & 3rd down efficiency is horrible. Roethlisbergers long ball accuracy has never been great he’s never put in enough work nor apparently overcame established early bad habits. So, in summary long story short. While you like to overlook a few details yet you call yourself dissecting, I look at the total picture not just 2010 and those seven years you alluded to. THAT my friend is a dissection. His whole career full of missed opportunity, undisciplined behavior, coasting, & not enough hard work. I see lots of Martavis Bryant workouts on YouTube. Find me one Ben Roethlisberger YouTube workout, Lol

  • JNick

    What does that have to do with Martavis Bryant being suspended? First you talk about raping girls, now you’re talking about work ethic. I love logic. Logistical gymnastics, not so much.

  • Ehrren Lee Phyzeque

    You performed an acrobatic maneuver avoiding the question. Logic? You’re arguing against yourself because you blame Bryant for insufficiencies on this often so apparently but yet you don’t hold Roethlisberger accountable for all that he hasn’t done and for much longer. And since Roethlisberger is supposed to be the vet leader it’s more of his responsibilities especially as a quarterback. But point is more of the burden is on Roethlisberger than Bryant. Bryant is the one putting in the work and does have the work ethic. But you try to blame him because of a silly little suspension he never should have had in the first place. Marijuana is legal in half the country. Roethlisberger missing time by being accused of raping women is legal NOWHERE.

  • JNick

    I didn’t avoid the question. You brought in Roethlisberger, not me. You tried to force illogical points into the discussion, not me. I don’t have to defend my assertion that Bryant’s ineffectiveness has as much, if not more to do with his own decisions and issues than it does Roethlisberger at this point. If you want to talk about what Ben did 7 years ago, relative to Bryant and think it’s logical, fine go ahead. But it’s simply not and I’m not going to follow your maneuvering down that rabbit hole. Bryants suspension wasn’t silly. It was 20 games, not to mention him being inactive half of his first season. Whether you like it or not, whether it is a legal state by state or not, its is still illegal to do federally and still a suspendable offense in the NFL. One that he repeatedly broke to the tune of 5+ times.
    I’m not defending Ben, I’m not bashing Bryant. I’m simply saying that Bryant’s ineffectiveness is largely in part to his inability to be allowed to practice and be with his team for half of his career so far. Would you like to discuss that, or Bens rape history again?