Vincent Says Taunting Not Considered In Smith-Schuster Suspension, Says Punishments Consistently Fair

On Tuesday, James Thrash, the NFL’s Appeals Officer for on-Field Player Discipline, denied the one-game suspension appeal of Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver JuJu Smith-Schuster. Because of that, in addition to the outcome of a few other hits that took place in Week 13, it has led to several speculating that Smith-Schuster’s appeal was denied mainly because the Steelers wide receiver stood over Cincinnati Bengals linebacker Vontaze Burfict after he made contact with him with his helmet in the head and neck area. On Wednesday, however Troy Vincent, the NFL’s Executive Vice President of Football Operations, said during a conference call with the media that taunting was not a factor in the decision to suspend Smith-Schuster.

“Taunting was never considered, at least from our office,” Vincent said. “It was the act of hitting Vontaze Burfict in the head area. The taunting was not considered. Are we sending a mixed message? We’ve been very consistent, fair, firm.”

This is interesting because in his letter to Smith-Schuster notifying him of the suspension, NFL VP of Football Operations Jon Runyan, who actually issued the suspension, noted that Smith-Schuster violated Rule 12, Section 2, Article 7 which prohibits unnecessary contact against a player who is in a defenseless posture and Rule 12, Section 3, Article 1 which prohibits unsportsmanlike conduct.

Runyan wrote:

“You are suspended for the dangerous and unsportsmanlike acts you committed during the fourth quarter of last night’s game. Specifically, with 7:10 remaining, on a passing play to a running back, you lined up a defender and delivered a violent and unnecessary blindside shot to his head and neck area. You then “celebrated” the play by standing over him and taunting him. The contact you made with your opponent placed the opposing player at risk of serious injury and could have been avoided. Your conduct following the hit fell far below the high standards of sportsmanship expected of an NFL player.”

As you can see in Runyan’s letter to Smith-Schuster, it appears as though the Steelers wide receiver was suspended because he violated two rules. Vincent, however, now claims that Smith-Schuster standing over Burfict following the block and thus taunting him was not a factor in that decision. That’s curious and if indeed the case, why did Runyan even mention the taunting in his letter to Smith-Schuster.

Now, on top of everything else, Smith-Schuster is a rookie and thus doesn’t have a history when it comes to illegal hits. While it’s hard to judge intent, and while Smith-Schuster’s hit on Burfict was indeed illegal, according to NFL rules, I personally do not believe that the Steelers wide receiver intended to hurt him. I think he just hit him about six inches higher than he should have. Additionally, Smith-Schuster then standing over Burfict and taunting him was uncalled for and that illegal action, which should be deemed as a totally separate one from the illegal hit, deserved to be penalized and ultimately fined for.

Before we move forward, below is the block that former Steelers linebacker Terence Garvin issued to Bengals punter Kevin Huber back in 2013 and while that block did not draw a penalty flag, Garvin was later fined for hit. Additionally, Huber suffered a broken jaw as a result of that hit. Garvin, wasn’t, however, suspended for his hit, that in all honesty, was much more brutal than the one Smith-Schuster issued Monday night to Burfict.

Moving forward. By now, you’ve probably already seen the block by Atlanta Falcons wide receiver Julio Jones on Minnesota Vikings safety Andrew Sendejo during the first quarter of the Sunday game between the two teams. Jones was not flagged for his block and it also doesn’t appear as though he’s been fined for it since the game ended as well. In defense of Jones, it appears as though his block included him leading mainly with his shoulder, as opposed to Smith-Schuster leading with more of his helmet. Even so, Jones’ lowered shoulder does appear to still strike Sendejo in his neck area. Jones, didn’t, however, taunt Sendejo after making the block, but, his block did come right at about the same time the Falcons running back was being taken to the ground.

Vincent claims that punishments have been fair and firm. If thats the case, why did Bengals safety George Iloka have his one-game suspension for making helmet-to-helmet contact with Steelers wide receiver Antonio Brown in the end zone Monday night overturned by independent arbitrator Derrick Brooks on Wednesday?

After that news was announced, Iloka’s agent Ron Slavin said in a statement: “We are grateful to appeals officer Derrick Brooks for reducing George’s penalty a one-game suspension to a fine equivalent to what players who were recently involved in similar plays received. George did nothing wrong on the play and the helmet-to-helmet contact was a result of Antonio Brown’s lowering his head as he braced for contact, we felt and argued that a suspension was particularly egregious. We thank Derrick for acknowledging our concerns and making the proper decision.”

What? Brown lowered his head as he braced for contact? Do you see that in the gif below? Yeah,me neither.

Iloka was also suspended by Runyan on Tuesday and in his letter to the Bengals safety he wrote that the player violated Rule 12, Section 2, Article 7 which “prohibits forcibly hitting a defenseless player’s head or neck area with the helmet, facemask, forearm or shoulder.”

Runyan also wrote to Iloka that “you violently struck a defenseless receiver in the head and neck area. The Competition Committee has clearly expressed its goal of ‘eliminating flagrant hits that have no place in our game’ and has encouraged the League office to suspend offenders for egregious violations such as the one you committed last night.”

Unlike Smith-Schuster, Iloka is not a first-time offender when it comes to illegal hits as he’s been previously fined for in-game actions against former Steelers tight end Heath Miller and former Green Bay Packers tight end Jermichael Finley. Its a wonder that Brown didn’t suffer a concussion from Iloka’s hit. But, hey, at least Iloka didn’t taunt Brown after the hit.

The NFL got it wrong this week across the board. For starters, if the league is going to suspend Smith-Schuster for his hit on Burfict, then Iloka should be sitting out Week 14 as well. Additionally, the hit by Jones on Sendejo, while likely deemed as a legal one, needs to be closely examined. On top of everything else, New England Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski probably deserves a two-game suspension for what he did to Buffalo Bills cornerback Tre’davious White during the Sunday game between the two teams.

Consistent? Fair? Firm? Sorry, Mr. Vincent, the league was anything but those three things this past week.

  • capehouse

    I’m not concerned with hits that happened before this year, but the blocks and hits to the head and neck area that took place this year, and didn’t involve suspensions, just make the league look like a bunch of stupid hypocrites.

  • Timothy Rea

    Idiocy.. if taunting was not a factor just the hit then plenty of other hits were worse. Does Gruden have some other suitors for the hand of Burfict in the league office? Perpetuating and allowing the kicking (but no penalty) scumbag a little more leeway and also pity for him when he finally gets his comeuppance? What’s going on?

  • Surrealist

    Iloka took 2 steps before launching high at brown, after he caught the ball. Just a fine, interesting.

  • The Tony

    Something smells fishy here

  • NinjaMountie

    Thank you, Dave. This is what I’ve been saying all day. Now hearing that the taunting wasn’t considered it makes the ruling even more ludicrous.

  • AndyR34

    It’s karma, man! For voting against the CBA…and specifically objecting to GODell’s power grab

  • Jones

    All optics. If AB had been carted off, Iloka would be out next week. If Burfict had gotten up like AB, JuJu would likely be playing. NFL is doing the wrong things for the wrong reason on a whim, and they’re not even smart enough to say, “yeah, the taunting played a part”.

  • Uncle Rico.

    D’fuh?

  • ND_Steel

    Vincent = Delusional. Or idiot…take your pick…

  • Stairway7

    “We’ve been very consistent, fair, firm.” Which means they use the same dart board when determining punishments. First place, it didn’t look “blindside” to me-Berfect was facing the same direction unlike the hit Hines laid on Rivers which precipitated the rule.

  • Orlysteel

    Yeah, James Trash.

  • Spencer Krick

    The way the NFL handles discipline is a joke, it needs a massive overhaul.

  • PittShawnC

    Your 2017 player suspensions and fines for on-field behavior

    Juju Smith-Schuster – Blindside block + taunting ($27,353)

    Rob Gronkowski – Unsportsmanlike conduct ($281,250)

    Crabtree and Talib – brawl ($398,897.06 and $647,058.81)

    Mike Evans – Unsportsmanlike conduct (brawl, taunting) ($40,588.24)

    Andrew Sendejo – Violating player safety rules (hit to the head) ($173,529.41)

    Marshawn Lynch – entering field of play and physically striking an official ($110,661)

    Danny Trevathan – hit to a defenseless receiver ($117,647.06)

    Vontaze Burfict – illegal hit against Anthony Sherman ($1,400,469.00)

  • AndreH

    I say both… The block never targeted Burfict’s head it was just below his neck and chest area. I don’t know what hell Troy Vincent and league office was looking at.

  • Greg Payne

    Right on Dave. Right on.

  • ND_Steel

    Interesting, thanks for the info, but the fine amounts are misleading as these are percentages of their pay, so they are more or less “equal” punishments.

  • TroymanianDevil

    This makes no sense. The only thing consistent here is that the punishments are consistently inconsistent

    Having read some of those statements, I’m beginning to think that the aftermath of each hit was the determining factor. Had Burfict gotten up quicker, no problem Juju. If AB dropped the ball or had to be attended to, Iloka gets a suspension.

  • ND_Steel

    Bingo…good observation

  • Matt Manzo

    Lowered his head? Now I’m pissed! What a bunch of ASSES!

  • PittShawnC

    ah cool, gotcha

  • ND_Steel

    Off topic…Pittsburgh Dad was hilarious as usual. If you haven’t been following on YouTube, highly recommend. Cry Bengal Fan…classic.

  • NinjaMountie

    I assume those include game checks lost? Strange way for Spotrac to list it.

  • ND_Steel

    I’m sure the players wouldn’t agree they were all equal…$1.4M for Burfict…ouch! NFL likes collecting money back from its players, that’s for sure.

  • DirtDawg1964

    Okay, now I’m really mad. Seriously. This infuriates me. This isn’t about the suspension of one of our guys. It’s about the maddeningly inconsistency applies to suspensions and outright bafflegab used to defend them.

    I could have accepted the taunting as part of the suspension. But this is nonsense. There is no way JuJu deserves to be suspended under Vincent’s reasoning. Complete BS.

  • Mike Skinner

    The NFL is now a double fantasy league . One is picking players for your fantasy football team and the other is the fantasy world of Goodall were he is Santa Claus one day and Scrooge the next. The king of the NFL which he will run into the ground. I smell pay per view next contract.

  • Dr. DG

    I want every one of those NFL representatives trying to explain the rules and rulings from these situations, to be Drug-Tested IMMEDIATELY!
    I really, seriously wanna know what they been smokin’…

  • Truth Dispensary

    Further proof the NFL’s officiating is driven more by politics & gambling than by the rule book.

  • Truth Dispensary

    Liberals need to keep their hands off the rule book.

  • JNick

    At this point, Juju should reach out to the NFLPA and consider filing a grievance. If they would have left it be, whatever, but now that they are saying taunting had nothing to do with the suspension, they have no backing to suspend him. On top of the fact that Iloka had his suspension dropped.

    At this point I’m no longer taking the side of the NFL in regards to any discipline they mete out. It’s just completely piece meal and they don’t follow their own established guidelines.

  • mape_ape

    The NFL deserves to go bankrupt.

  • rystorm06

    derrick brooks is full of crap, what a joke! maybe he’s suffering from CTE because brown doesn’t even have a chance to see what was about to hit him

  • Lambert58

    If the taunting is not a consideration here, there is absolutely no way that hit warrants a suspension. Absolute garbage ruling.

  • LucasY59

    anyone else surprised that Badells trained fools cant keep their stories straight? everything that comes out of that office is inconsistent and mostly idiotic

  • Joeybaggadonuts

    Well, that’s one area of consistency they can hang their hat on.

  • Joeybaggadonuts

    I vote Yes

  • Steve Johnson

    Troy Vincent is full of it. JuJu Smith should have been fined. The Safety from Cinncy should have been fined, Gronk should have been suspended two games. The NFL Rules Committee is a mess.

  • nutty32

    Troy Vincent looks consistently over matched for his position. Haven’t seen him look smart or right in any of these over the years. Gotta assume he’s gotten to where he has by being an excellent butt kisser. He was overrated as a player, too. Gutless sellout.

  • LucasY59

    I agree its not a crack back block and its not Jujus fault Vontaze isnt looking, the only illegal part of it was that he didnt hit him lower

    players have to keep their head on a swivel when they run routes near Confict, the Thug finally got some payback for what he has coming to him (and that isnt trying justify the hit as clean because it was on a dirty player, it wouldve been clean on anybody as long as there isnt helmet to helmet)

  • LucasY59

    dont forget the media influence when Gruden begged the league to eject/suspend Juju

    *cant wait for him to get another coaching job so I dont have to hear him anymore (even if the Steelers only play one monday night game a season, its one too many to listen to his terrible commentary)

  • The Chin

    If taunting wasn’t considered regarding the punishment then why the need to mention it in the letter to the player? Absolute crock of $h!t

  • WreckIess

    This is what happens when the league is given the ability to make up punishments as they go. If you want to take the helmet hits out of the game, that’s fine, but be consistent with the punishments for it.

    They suspended Juju because they felt like they needed to punish someone for all the hits last game to show that they “don’t approve of it”, but I can guarantee you that we’ll have at least one primetime game against them next season because the NFL knows a money maker when they see one.

  • blcartwright

    In the letter to JuJu the NFL guy calls it a “blindside” hit when the block was squarely in Burfict’s chest.

  • Sri N

    It’s clear he was just covering – it was 100% the taunting. That was the only thing different than Jones and Illoka.

    Also how do they not have the same person evaluating each appeal!!! That’s nonsensical.

  • Nolrog

    Bull ****. That was very inconsistent punishment.

  • Bryan Ischo

    Where did that vocal diarrhea come from?

  • PaeperCup

    I agree with you and disagree with Dave a bit on the Julio Hit. They are pretty much the same, JuJu does lead with his should for the most part.

  • PaeperCup

    Runyan sounds like a complete pansy.

  • PaeperCup

    I look forward to his videos as much as I do the actual Steelers game. Especially after a loss, I usually need the pick me up.

  • falconsaftey43

    Wow, just wow. Just removed all doubt that it was a completely BS and unfair suspension.

  • Ichabod

    Will the Steelers speak up on this?

  • falconsaftey43

    I’ll disagree. From angles I have seen, doesn’t look like Julio hit him in the head. JuJu def hit him in the head. Regardless, no way JuJu’s warrants a suspension.

  • michael young

    I think they have been incredibly consistent……..at being inconsistent. Consistently inconsistent.

  • falconsaftey43

    It is an illegal block per the rule. It is “blindsided” because the guy wasn’t looking. Here is the wording in the rule book.

    “(10) A player who receives a “blindside” block when the path of the blocker is toward or parallel to his own end line.”

    JuJu was parallel with the LOS and Burfict had his eyes on Bell so couldn’t see JuJu, thus illegal.

  • falconsaftey43

    He really should. NFL removed all logical case they had to suspend him. They can’t just suspend some guys and not others because they feel like it.

  • falconsaftey43

    It is blindside per NFL definition. Burfict had his eyes on Bell and could not see JuJu coming. That alone is not enough, but because JuJu is moving parallel to the LOS, it is illegal. He’d have to be moving ng away from the LOSS for it to be legal (i.e. coming from in front of Burfict, not beside).

    Here is wording from rule book.
    “(10) A player who receives a “blindside” block when the path of the blocker is toward or parallel to his own end line.”

    That said, no way this warrants a suspension.

  • Stairway7

    It was close. A fine and penalty would have been appropriate. But for the NFL to claim their discipline policy i fair and consistent is pure bullshit. Gronk on the back of a player who was lying on the ground after the whistle was blown and gets the same punishment as Juju??????

  • Darth Blount 47

    I hope Art Rooney II makes a telephone call and asks to speak with the Principal, because one of his sons was just done really wrong and dirty. And this Vincent BS was the last straw. Now they are just openly playing games. Good cop, Bad cop.. so you can’t really hit the ever-moving target. Problem is, the Good cop is coming off worse than the Bad one did. It’s a comedy routine at this point. I hope JJSS comes back against New England, FIRED THE FU**UP!

  • Darth Blount 47

    I thought this one was full of good references!

  • Ichabod

    Well then…am I supposed to believe the NFL has integrity in dealing with situations like this?
    Their punishments are as inconsistent as the refereeing.
    And they spew b.s. from their lips.
    Wonder why the league’s popularity is waning.

  • Bruce

    What really pisses me off is the Steelers FO won’t even give the nfl FO a dirty look over this!

  • WB Tarleton

    Probably, but not publicly.

  • #7

    “Also, up is down, black is white, the earth is flat and Santa Claus is real” – Troy Vincent

  • Steel Realist PAul

    So the current collective-bargaining agreement runs out at the end of 2020, which.. brings up an interesting situation.

    The owners typically lock the players out and make demands, while expressing how they’re losing money, all the while denying to open their books and show proof, while generally acting like kings. And the fans come back anyway.

    Lately, things have been changing. Ratings are down.. Goodell is generally hated (see: every single draft since he’s been commissioner).. The league has been targeted much more frequently since concussion data and the NFL’s complicit actions all along the way fully surfaced.. Now CTE.. Not to mention their desire to grow the league internationally.

    I wonder if the owners will still believe fans will come back.

  • Steel Realist PAul

    Also, nice work, Dave. People are noticing..

  • J C

    I wish the same thing for gruden, but unfortunately that’s not going to happen because gruden SUCKS as a head coach and being head coach for Tampa Bay proved that…and before anyone reminds me he won a super bowl with them, let’s all remember who’s team that was that won that super bowl Tony Dungy’s team….Had Tampa Bay’s front office hadn’t been so fast to pull the trigger on Tony he would have won that Super Bowl as he rightfully so should have, after all it was the team that he built…..So we can hope and pray that brainless blow hard that the NFL Network hired as a commentator will get a job as a high school coach or assistant some kind of coach somewhere so we don’t ever have to listen to him commentate a Steelers game EVER again!!……Amen…..Aaaaaamen

  • RASTA

    Agreed on all points Dave!

    Steelers going to the Super Bowl!

  • Alan Tman

    That will be impossible this time by giving Goodell 5 year 200 million dollar contract.

  • AndyR34

    GODell’s toady

  • Alan Tman

    Because they are not in business with the players. They are in business with the other owners and Roger Goodell. The players are a commodity.

  • AndyR34

    +1 I wonder if they believe their own hogwash?

  • AndyR34

    I’d like to know also…I could use a few of those fantasies.

  • John Volpe

    Total crap when did the NFL start playing flag football. If juju gets suspended the julio and ioka should be to
    nfl bunch of crap

  • NinjaMountie

    What!!!!!! Are you saying Santa Claus isn’t real? My whole childhood and life has been a lie! I need to have a talk with my parents.

  • AndyR34

    Actually, falconsaftey43, I think the CBA says that. And that was part of the reason Steeler players voted against it…it gave GODelll absolute power to make any discipline decision he wants…no rationality required.

  • AndyR34

    I would like to think so…Dan would have, but AR2 is also GODell’s buddy, so I don’t think it will happen.

  • LucasY59

    that seems like BS, I understand the crack back rule, but Blindside? its not a block in the back (it cant be because he is parallel) and its not like it was away from the play…if Juju doesnt make that block, Confict is making the tackle, its not the blockers fault the player isnt looking, if you look away from a blocker you become unblockable? NFL rules are seriously becoming a joke, some are either impossible or unenforceable

  • Ken Krampert

    I’m concerned about previous illegal hits. These players should be progressively disciplined. 1st offense – fine. 2nd offense- 1 game suspension. 3rd offense- 2 games etc. No way a previous non offender should be suspended for any games if the taunting is not taken into account. In this case Iloka should have gotten a 2 game suspension based on 2 previous offenses. JuJu should have been fined. There is way to much subjectivity and gray area from incident to incident. Give me a week and I could fix this sh#t….

  • Steeldog22

    It’s about the money. 1 game suspension costs Ju Ju $28K. It would have cost Iloka $250K. They weren’t going to do that. It IS costing Gronk $286K and makes it difficult to reach incentives which could cost him another $2M. Don’t look at the games, look at the money.

  • Steeldog22

    Yep. I just posted similar (but way less – nice job, above). Got to look at the actual money, not the games. It also makes it tough for Gronk to hit another $2M in incentives.

  • Steeldog22

    I’m think everyone in the locker room has kicked in $500 each, told Ju Ju “good job” and moved on.

  • Ken Krampert

    Games are money. It’s called game checks. Progressive discipline is the only fair way to punish. Suspend and fine on a progressive scale as well as take away game checks. 2nd and 3rd offenses will reduce. Threaten a year suspension for 4th offense and guys like Burfuct will become dinosaurs.

  • GravityWon

    This rule doesn’t mean that a block is automatically a blindside just because the path of the blocker is toward or parallel to his own endline.

  • Chris

    JuJu deserved to be suspended for the hit-taunt combo. Too bad the NFL doesn’t have to guts to admit that’s the reason why. I was mad at his action, after the hit, and slightly embarrassed in the moment. If I was a Bengal fan I’d say I was embarrassed too, but instead I’d just be sad. Cincinnati chose stupidity, and thug behavior in multitude moments during the game. The Steelers are in thier head. They want to win and humiliate at the same time. Instead they just keep making fools of themselves.

  • GravityWon

    I just went back and re-read the article thoroughly This could be my favorite football article in some time. Very well stated.

  • Lil Smitty

    Runyan was one of the dirtiest players during his days in the NFL.

  • ND_Steel

    Loved it…glitch in the matrix, Scott Backus making a quantum leap, blessing everything with her tears…she was a really good sport.

  • Dshoff

    I can’t believe they actually came out and said that AB dropped his head and that’s why the Bengal didn’t get suspended. What a bunch of CRAP. “Don’t believe your eyes, believe what we say!”Juju went over the line when he taunted him though.

  • ND_Steel

    Goodell can’t stand the heat on this one so he sends out his lacky in Vincent. I’ve never seen such incompetence from a company of this size with its ridiculous amount of resources. And the media just kisses their boots.

  • Zarbor

    He’s an idiot that can’t think beyond politics…..To the pit of misery for that fool. Dilly, Dilly!

  • ROGER BARNES

    It does matter if it cost a player 1 dollar or 10 million dollars. Fair is fair. 1st time offence shouldn’t have gotten a suspension…btw, ju ju hit in the chest area and subsequently Burfict’s helmet slams into ju ju’s.

  • ND_Steel

    Yep, a regular Grover Dill.

  • PaeperCup

    Yes, I meant to point out the similarity in that both led with their shoulder. Different end results, with JuJu’s hit resulting in helmet to helmet contact, but unlike Dave’s opinion, I do not think JuJu led with his helmet

  • Steve

    Very inconsistent.

  • Conserv_58

    Thanks Dave. Given what Vincent and Runyan said, you proved that there is indeed confirmed evidence that inconsistencies exist int the NFL’s handling of disciplinary actions.

    For me Troy Vincent’s statement to the media, “Taunting was never considered, ‘at least’ from our office.” vs Jon Runyan’s statement admitting that taunting played a role was his way of deflecting criticism and passing the buck.

  • Conserv_58

    Jerry Jones is not taking the negative fallout of Goodell’s affect on the league’s bottom line lightly and has said so. I’ve never been a fan of Jerry Jones, but I support his stance on why he thinks Goodell should not receive an extension. Goodell is not only a monumental hypocrite, but he’s corrupt. See Spygate, Deflate Gate and the Ray Rice incidences as verifiable evidence of his corruption. This situation is one that I can not and will not support the Steelers position on.

  • Conserv_58

    That’s only true to a point. There is also the fact that uber hypocrite and corrupt, Goodell has violated the NFL’s hyper sensative issue of protecting their image when he lied about Spy Gate and the Ray Rice investigations. That’s why it’s unbelievable that so many owners, including the Rooneys, are positioning themself as hypocrites by turning a blind eye toward his corrupt behavior and are green lighting Goodell’s receving an extension.

  • Conserv_58

    It seemed to me that Troy Vincent’s explanation was a case of him defelcting criticism by kicking the can down the road. He essentially was taking the 500 lb. gorilla off of his back and putting it on Runyan’s. In either case, the NFL has egg on their faces, again.

  • treeher

    Amen. Unfortunately, none of this will affect the decisions in any way and I have no reason to believe the league will learn anything from it. But at least I wish they’d be honest about their inept bias and inconsistency.

  • Conserv_58

    You’d have better luck winning the Powerball lottery than seeing the NFL admit to being wrong or having any faults or failures.

  • Conserv_58

    The issue with the hit is based on JuJu’s angle of attack and not the ferocity of it.

  • Conserv_58

    One would think that Runyon stood in his office blinfolded and threw a dart a list of disciplinary actions.

  • Mark

    As a fanbase, we should start a gofundme page to pay for any fines assessed to JuJu resulting from the magnificent hit he laid on the mentally ill, menace to society Burfict. #karma

  • Conserv_58

    Your are correct about the wording being in the CBA and why the Steelers players, (lead by Ryan Clark) refusal to sign off on it.

  • Conserv_58

    In that case we would have to afford the same courtesy to Hines Ward since he is the reason why the rule was enacted in the first place.

  • Steel Realist PAul

    I mean.. isn’t Jones just being a spoiled child (like most uber rich guys) because he didn’t get his way with the Zeke thing? To me, they’re in the same boat full of dooshy idiots who we have to tolerate because they have so much money. Gross..

    But what do you mean with your last line, C-58? Steelers position on what?

  • Conserv_58

    Vincent is devoid of a spine. He’s an empty suit. Hence the reason why he acquiesces to the owners. He’s the kind of guy that loves his title and little else about the responsibilities that come with it.

  • Conserv_58

    Their position to sit by and be content to green light Goodell’s extension without regard for questioning his monumental failures.

    How can any owner, especially the Rooneys forget how following the Spy Gate ruling, Goodell had all of the incriminating video evidence destroyed? When confronted as to why he did that his excuse was that the case was over and that it served no purpose to keep the evidence. Any lawyer would tell you that Goodell’s excuse was complete hogwash.

    The same goes for when he lied about there not being enough verifiable video evidence to suspend Ray Rice for knocking his girlfriend out. Yet a couple of months later an NFL front office staffer was going through some boxes in the front office with the intent to sort through and organize the contents when she discovered a second video tape of the incident. Low and behold, this tape showed a view from inside the elevator thus proving Goodell lied about there not being enough conclusive evidence to suspend Rice.

  • Conserv_58

    From my understanding, Goodell stands to make around $46 million dollars for the 2016-17 seasons. That’s an obscene amount of money and it doesn’t even include his perks. Now he says he wants his new contract to include his having his own private jet. If I ever had the opportunity to be in his presence I would unload on his behind.

  • Conserv_58

    That makes me wonder if the NFL reports those huge sums in their annual report as being revenue earned.

  • Mark

    Yes, the NFL was dead wrong across the board on all of these hits, I think JuJu would’ve received a 15 yard penalty and nothing else. The standing over got him suspended of course, please stop denying that NFL. It’s the look on national TV that they would like to remove

  • corduroyninja

    I think that is why Burfict pretended to be more hurt than he was, but then got pissed when it resulted in him not being allowed back in the game.

  • Mark

    One for our beloved Hines too

  • Steel Realist PAul

    Think of it like this, if you haven’t already..

    The commissioner is hired by the owners, to represent the interests of the owners, while running their organization and showing a profit.

    His role is very much about the perception of the league to the world at large. When things look bad (spygate, concussion lawsuits, and much of what you mentioned), his role is to make it go away.

    And the collective bargaining agreement gave him tremendous levity to do that in just about any way he wants; save a couple of legal issues to this point.

    If he was rehired, the owners did well under his term so far. Otherwise, we wouldn’t be talking about this.

    Peace brother..

  • Steve

    Vincent is so full of BS. Should run for office. We know when were being shafted.

  • Steel Realist PAul

    Saw this and thought of you.. from the latest on the contract:

    “… We are pleased to report that there is a nearly unanimous consensus among the ownership in favor of signing the contract extension now.”

    So.. who knows! Maybe the Steelers were part of the outliers, like before.

  • Alan Tman

    They use him as a scapegoat. All the hate is pointed towards Goodell, but it’s really the owners making all the decisions. He just takes all the heat.

  • paltel

    LOL. Only snowflakes still buy the false liberal/conservative narrative. Down with the corporate despots.

  • TroymanianDevil

    good point, very possible

  • blcartwright

    Well it wasn’t blindside – JuJu was directly in front of Burfict and hit him square in the chest